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post May 10 2007, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 10 2007, 08:02 AM)
Hmm, that's weird, mind to tell us your PC setup? hmm.gif
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my rig setup AMD X2 3600+ , BIOSTAR 6100 AM2 , 2x1G DDR2 , 1x160G sata HDD , 1xDVD driver ...thats all!!! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ironhorse @ May 10 2007, 12:55 PM)
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 10 2007, 09:30 AM)
Yerp, dunno why.
I think our DFI boards is using a temperature sensor chip that is kinda "gila" laugh.gif

Because when i touch the reservoir, the water is not hot at all. rclxub.gif
It's really cold.

I've lapped my waterblock base and been reseating the waterblock three times, no improvement at all. doh.gif
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bro Shawty,u r not the one,me too,my dfi also showing me hot temp....even i touch and use core temp to see it's only low....
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sifus...

i'm experiencing my mobo running @ 60deg cel.. is this OK? i'm using asus m2a board.. but the CPU temp seems 2 b OK...

can any1 plz advice.. tQ a lot smile.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ May 10 2007, 05:41 PM)
bro Shawty,u r not the one,me too,my dfi also showing me hot temp....even i touch and use core temp to see it's only low....
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yeah...me too!!!
but,rite now my board's temp decrease already...full load around 59c (before this 75c)

i dont know wat happened (just change some flows)...but,its sure makes me happy... rclxms.gif

neway,thx guys biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ May 10 2007, 12:26 PM)
my rig setup AMD X2 3600+ , BIOSTAR 6100 AM2 , 2x1G DDR2 , 1x160G sata HDD , 1xDVD driver ...thats all!!!  sweat.gif
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somebody plz help.... sweat.gif
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May i know, P4 3.0 max limit hot is until what? I mean the processor.
My processor idle will around 47+-C load will 50 +- C.
And how to check the GC temperature for ATI 9800 pro.
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hie i am looking for a new cooling system fpr my desktop AMD Athlon 2200 Socket 462 ..


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QUOTE(jasdeep @ May 12 2007, 06:05 PM)
hie i am looking for a new cooling system fpr my desktop AMD Athlon 2200  Socket 462 ..
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I need a guide to change the CPU heatsink fan, can any1 help me?


Added on May 12, 2007, 6:58 pmI need a guide to change the CPU heatsink fan, can any1 help me?

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Okay i'm using NH-U12F, and the performance is so-so, slightly lower than my stock AM2 hsf by 1-3 degrees. I checked the contact of the heatsink base and the heatspreader on my proccessor, i found it to have an amazing contact. Half the size of an un-cook grain of rice spreaded evenly. But how come the performance is not as expected? I touched the heatsink fin and it is not even hot, the air that blew tru the fins were cool. The air from the hsf for my GC is hot.

The temperature of the proccessor at idle is 53 degrees while my 8800GTS idles at 52 degrees which should not be right since G80 GPU tends to be running hotter. Btw the rig is in an air-conditioned room.
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QUOTE([KY] @ May 12 2007, 07:45 PM)
Okay i'm using NH-U12F, and the performance is so-so, slightly lower than my stock AM2 hsf by 1-3 degrees. I checked the contact of the heatsink base and the heatspreader on my proccessor, i found it to have an amazing contact. Half the size of an un-cook grain of rice spreaded evenly. But how come the performance is not as expected? I touched the heatsink fin and it is not even hot, the air that blew tru the fins were cool. The air from the hsf for my GC is hot.

The temperature of the proccessor at idle is 53 degrees while my 8800GTS idles at 52 degrees which should not be right since G80 GPU tends to be running hotter. Btw the rig is in an air-conditioned room.
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Your CPU temp is definitely not correct. My CPU + HSF is almost the same as yours. My idle is around 30-33'c while at load, it is about 51'c. Now orthosing at 2.65Ghz at 1.34v, it is at 55'c (in aircon room)

Are you sure you have installed the heatsink correctly?
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This is a continuation of the thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/453614 ..

CPU at 50C while Sys at 36C, How to solve?


So today I got the Artic Silver 5 and began reapplying the thermal paste which was a not-so-smooth affair,

1. Unscrewed the noctua heatsink, somehow the paste that came with noctua has solidified over the 1 month or so that the amd chip (socket 939) stuck to the heatsink instead of being attached to the mobo, even theough the mobo clamp was not lifted up to 90 degrees.

Will there be any permanent damage there?

2. Wiped away the thick previous paste that has almost overflowed to the sides of the cpu. Noticed that there's a visible scratch (the color of the underside is copper-ish, the scratched area looks like a grey letter 'V') on the part of the noctua heatsink that directly comes into contact with the cpu.

No idea how that came to be there, what impact would it have?

3. Attached cpu back, clamped it, applied a rice grain and a half of artic silver 5, and attempted to screw back the noctua unit.

Screwing it back wasn't as easy this time as the mobo was not removed from the casing, it's very hard to see and align the 'light-spring-screws' with the screw holes and I had to lift the heatsink back up after touching the cpu once or twice b4 screwing it correctly.

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Try reinstall the HSF yourself, and reapply a very thin layer of TIM as sHawTY said... the installation of NH-U12F is very easy actually... screw 1 side first a little bit until it won't loose out when screw another side, then screw the other side...then tighten both side untill it cannot be tighten anymore...


Followed Kataro's advice and slowly screwed both sides until it's reached the tight point.

Don't know wherter I blundered the process or that the AS5 needs to take a few days to do it's thing but here's the current speedfan status,

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50C at idle is very bad.
might be bios goes nuts.
try clear the cmos, boot up with default fail safe settings and compare the readings
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Are you using "Core temp"? What is the reading on Core temp? It will give you the core temperature of both core0 and core1.

From what you have described, when you remove your HSF, you should twist your heatsink gently first to loosen the hold of the thermal paste. AMD has a guide on how to remove heatsinks from the CPU.

Also, for optimum TIM action, when you remove the old thermal paste, it would be better to use a branded thermal paste remover e.g. Arctic thermal paste remover.

Yes, I have a Noctua and it would be difficult to install the heat sink with the mobo in the casing. That's why my rig runs with the mobo outside the casing!!! whistling.gif

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QUOTE(e-jump @ May 12 2007, 10:09 PM)
50C at idle is very bad.
might be bios goes nuts.
try clear the cmos, boot up with default fail safe settings and compare the readings
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How to clear cmos?

QUOTE(kmarc @ May 12 2007, 10:17 PM)
Are you using "Core temp"? What is the reading on Core temp? It will give you the core temperature of both core0 and core1.

From what you have described, when you remove your HSF, you should twist your heatsink gently first to loosen the hold of the thermal paste. AMD has a guide on how to remove heatsinks from the CPU.

Also, for optimum TIM action, when you remove the old thermal paste, it would be better to use a branded thermal paste remover e.g. Arctic thermal paste remover.

Yes, I have a Noctua and it would be difficult to install the heat sink with the mobo in the casing. That's why my rig runs with the mobo outside the casing!!!  whistling.gif
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I think the 'correct removal' part is too late to know know, will there be any lasting damage to the cpu?

I did not use a brande remover but made sure everthing is wiped off using a soft piece of lint-free cloth.

Yeah, the screwing part sucks.. wouldn't like to go through that again anytime soon. Still, the temp from Core-Temp below isn't very encouraging.. maybe need a week for AS5 to settle itself to decide whether this re-pasting process fail or succeed.




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I'm using Pentium D 2.80Ghz and idle temp is 60C, isit normal?
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QUOTE([KY] @ May 12 2007, 07:45 PM)
Okay i'm using NH-U12F, and the performance is so-so, slightly lower than my stock AM2 hsf by 1-3 degrees. I checked the contact of the heatsink base and the heatspreader on my proccessor, i found it to have an amazing contact. Half the size of an un-cook grain of rice spreaded evenly. But how come the performance is not as expected? I touched the heatsink fin and it is not even hot, the air that blew tru the fins were cool. The air from the hsf for my GC is hot.

The temperature of the proccessor at idle is 53 degrees while my 8800GTS idles at 52 degrees which should not be right since G80 GPU tends to be running hotter. Btw the rig is in an air-conditioned room.
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Are you really sure you install the HSF correctly...? You install it as 180 degree right? hmm.gif suppose to be cool enough de... your PC-007 rear fan is exhaust right? Using original Lian Li fan or other brand fan? the most I can think is the HSF installation problem... has you touch the base of the heatsink?

QUOTE(Polaris @ May 12 2007, 09:56 PM)
This is a continuation of the thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/453614 ..

CPU at 50C while Sys at 36C, How to solve?
So today I got the Artic Silver 5 and began reapplying the thermal paste which was a not-so-smooth affair,

1. Unscrewed the noctua heatsink, somehow the paste that came with noctua has solidified over the 1 month or so that the amd chip (socket 939) stuck to the heatsink instead of being attached to the mobo, even theough the mobo clamp was not lifted up to 90 degrees.

Will there be any permanent damage there?

2. Wiped away the thick previous paste that has almost overflowed to the sides of the cpu. Noticed that there's a visible scratch (the color of the underside is copper-ish, the scratched area looks like a grey letter 'V') on the part of the noctua heatsink that directly comes into contact with the cpu.

No idea how that came to be there, what impact would it have?

3. Attached cpu back, clamped it, applied a rice grain and a half of artic silver 5, and attempted to screw back the noctua unit.

Screwing it back wasn't as easy this time as the mobo was not removed from the casing, it's very hard to see and align the 'light-spring-screws' with the screw holes and I had to lift the heatsink back up after touching the cpu once or twice b4 screwing it correctly.
Followed Kataro's advice and slowly screwed both sides until it's reached the tight point.

Don't know wherter I blundered the process or that the AS5 needs to take a few days to do it's thing but here's the current speedfan status,
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When I install it first time, it is hard to install too... after reading from the manual again and again as well reading from online review, I finally figure out the installation methods as quoted above... even inside casing, it suppose to not that difficult to install... lift the heatsink back up is correct but let it touch once or twice is very bad... the best will be, when you install, don't let the HSF base touch the IHS yet, and lift one side a bit to screw...after tight abit of the screw, only put it down to screw the another... yeah... talk is always easy than done...that why I prefer to take out the mobo for current practice... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Polaris @ May 12 2007, 11:53 PM)
How to clear cmos?
I think the 'correct removal' part is too late to know know, will there be any lasting damage to the cpu?

I did not use a brande remover but made sure everthing is wiped off using a soft piece of lint-free cloth.

Yeah, the screwing part sucks.. wouldn't like to go through that again anytime soon. Still, the temp from Core-Temp below isn't very encouraging.. maybe need a week for AS5 to settle itself to decide whether this re-pasting process fail or succeed.
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Even though AS5 need to settle in, but I think the Idle temp is still abnormal...
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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 12 2007, 08:25 PM)
Your CPU temp is definitely not correct. My CPU + HSF is almost the same as yours. My idle is around 30-33'c while at load, it is about 51'c. Now orthosing at 2.65Ghz at 1.34v, it is at 55'c (in aircon room)

Are you sure you have installed the heatsink correctly?
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QUOTE(Kataro @ May 13 2007, 02:02 AM)
Are you really sure you install the HSF correctly...? You install it as 180 degree right?  hmm.gif suppose to be cool enough de... your PC-007 rear fan is exhaust right? Using original Lian Li fan or other brand fan? the most I can think is the HSF installation problem... has you touch the base of the heatsink?
I am sure it's installed properly. I seen the base of the hsf and the heatspreader on the cpu. The amount of tim used is also sufficient. I touched the base. It's slightly warm but certainly not 40 degrees for sure. I touched the heatpipe and it's cold. I installed the hsf 180 degrees too.

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