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post Mar 10 2007, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 10 2007, 10:21 PM)
dont use perfume. other chemicals might cause a very nasty chemical reaction, and god knows what will happen
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doh.gif, owh god, really, i thought, i can just use it, anyway...i used it already, lucky didn't get into trouble...thanks for head up dude...next time no more perfume

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post Mar 10 2007, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 10 2007, 10:35 PM)
doh.gif, owh god, really, i thought, i can just use it, anyway...i used it already, lucky didn't get into trouble...thanks for head up dude...next time no more perfume
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Huh?
Last time when i didn't bought the artic cleaner, i use it hundreds of times.
Even use CK One to clean the IHS of most processor. laugh.gif

And sometime i even use the CK One on the uncovered processor core. tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2007, 11:38 PM

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hi all,

my notebook idle temperature is pretty weird la..

see this pics:

SENSORVIEW


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EVEREST

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SPEEDFAN

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i don't know what the value if i'm playing games. and now i just bought notebook cooler,
NotePal (R9-NBC-ADAS)

but there're not much difference, idle is only about 64*c-65*c...
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post Mar 10 2007, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 10 2007, 11:38 PM)
hi all,

my notebook idle temperature is pretty weird la..

see this pics:

SENSORVIEW



EVEREST


SPEEDFAN

i don't know what the value if i'm playing games. and now i just bought notebook cooler, 
NotePal (R9-NBC-ADAS)

but there're not much difference, idle is only about 64*c-65*c...
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Answer this two question:

1) What's the age of your notebook?
2) How often & how long do you use your notebook in one day?

I have an assumption on why does that happens, but, i need you to answer those two question above first. smile.gif
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:02 AM

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my laptop age is about 1 year 3 month i think. ASUS A6R.
on average my lappy runs about 18 hrs per day. before i used that sensor software, i didn't notice any performance drop or system freeze. everything is fine i think.
as usual,when i'm playing games the system going hot but after 5-7 minutes i finished playing games, it returns to normal. no BSOD or else.
is my sensor reporting incorrect value? but, i tried several software and the value is almost same.
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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:02 AM)
my laptop age is about 1 year 3 month i think. ASUS A6R.
on average my lappy runs about 18 hrs per day. before i used that sensor software, i didn't notice any performance drop or system freeze. everything is fine i think.
as usual,when i'm playing games the system going hot but after 5-7 minutes i finished playing games, it returns to normal. no BSOD or else.
is my sensor reporting incorrect value? but, i tried several software and the value is almost same.
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Okay, i know why this thing happens just after i see you're saying that your notebook "runs about 18hrs a day"

My assumptions, Easy:

Your notebook processor heatsink is already full of dust. smile.gif

I've seen many notebooks that face this kind of trouble.
And all of them has the same problem:
Heatsink A.K.A. processor cooling fan is already full of dust, and your heatsink @ processor cooler is choking with some fresh air. smile.gif
[FYI, my partime work is a computer service technician]

Edit:
I'm an ex student of UiTM Shah Alam.
My customers are UiTM Shah Alam stundents. smile.gif

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post Mar 11 2007, 12:16 AM

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thanks sHawTY, i've once opened the cpu cover at the back of the laptop cover. and i've examined the fans and the copper, the cpu fan is not too dusty, maybe there're not enough fresh air going into the fan (i think)..and i'm afraid to void the warranty because there're some sticker covering the fan's screw. but, i agree and respect with your opinion.

laptop fans is more hard to compared to desktop... cry.gif

//i'm a UiTM Shah Alam student, living in Section 7 sweat.gif

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post Mar 11 2007, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:16 AM)
thanks sHawTY, i've once opened the cpu cover at the back of the laptop cover. and i've examined the fans and the copper, the cpu fan is not too dusty, maybe there're not enough fresh air going into the fan (i think)..and i'm afraid to void the warranty because there're some sticker covering the fan's screw. but, i agree and respect with your opinion.

laptop fans is more hard to compared to desktop... cry.gif

//i'm a UiTM Shah Alam student, living in Section 7  sweat.gif
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im suggestin' u get a lappy cooler(dunno what the correct name)
look like a pad but beneath got 3-4 blowier fan to keep ur lappy c0oL
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 10 2007, 11:28 PM)
Huh?
Last time when i didn't bought the artic cleaner, i use it hundreds of times.
Even use CK One to clean the IHS of most processor. laugh.gif

And sometime i even use the CK One on the uncovered processor core. tongue.gif
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no wonder your buyer said nice good things about you, you sold them fragrence processor tongue.gif laugh.gif anyway
i used it because, just like you said, my AS5 finish already, and just use the perfume, known the fact that perfume contains alcohol and evaporate fast smile.gif
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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:16 AM)
thanks sHawTY, i've once opened the cpu cover at the back of the laptop cover. and i've examined the fans and the copper, the cpu fan is not too dusty, maybe there're not enough fresh air going into the fan (i think)..and i'm afraid to void the warranty because there're some sticker covering the fan's screw. but, i agree and respect with your opinion.

laptop fans is more hard to compared to desktop... cry.gif
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Hard?
I can do that in just 30 minutes.

Seriously, your heatsink is full of dust.
It's up to you to trust me or not. smile.gif

You can only see clearly either the heatsink is full of dust or not if you open the whole notebook casing.

I've repaired hunderds of notebook before.
And 50% of them are facing the same problem as yours.

What i do is:

1) Open the whole notebook casing
2) Take out the heatsink & clean it thoroughly
3) Clean the old thermal paste
4) Put a new layer of Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste
5) Put everything back to where it was
6) Inspect the new temperature details

And after doing that, their notebook runs even smoother than ever. thumbup.gif

FYI, only 1% of those notebook i've repaired used thermal paste.
The other 99%, just use a chapalang black thermal pad that is not really good in conducting hot temperatures from the processor's die to the heatsink.

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How long does asus gives warranty to their notebooks? blink.gif


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post Mar 11 2007, 12:31 AM

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to gengstapo:

i'm using a lappy cooler right now, Cooler Master R9-NBC-ADAS.

at time i'm writing this post, the temperature is 71*c, but when i touch the cpu, it's not that too hot, it's warm as i can put my face on it (maybe around 30*C-45*C).

maybe the air condition/ventilation in my room is quiet hot, or i'm suspecting the sensor device reporting an incorrect value (just to ease my heart)

to sHawTY:

please do this via pm smile.gif

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post Mar 11 2007, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:31 AM)
to gengstapo:

i'm using a lappy cooler right now, Cooler Master R9-NBC-ADAS.

at time i'm writing this post, the temperature is 71*c, but when i touch the cpu, it's not that too hot, it's warm as i can put my face on it (maybe around 30*C-45*C).

maybe the air condition/ventilation in my room is quiet hot, or i'm suspecting the sensor device reporting an incorrect value (just to ease my heart)
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as long u can feel it not really hot
it might not harm, u cant really trust the temp reading by software since some of them might buggy

the best is using digital multimeter
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post Mar 11 2007, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(neuromancerx @ Mar 11 2007, 12:31 AM)
to sHawTY:

are you living in shah alam area? i want u to make a major operation with my lappy. err.. how much that cost? using artic silver? great! rclxms.gif

How long does asus gives warranty to their notebooks? 2 years international warranty
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Yes, i am living in shah alam area. smile.gif
TTDI Jaya [Near Stadium & Politeknik Shah Alam]

However, i don't advice you to ask me to open your notebook as your notebook still has 2 year of warranty.

Yes, for notebooks i only use Arctic Silver 5 as all notebooks only uses small heatsink, thus, it need a powerful thermal conductor between the heatsink and the processor's die @ core. smile.gif

I only use "chapalang" thermal paste on desktop pc's. laugh.gif

If it's only 1 year, i could do that.
But still, if you insist, i gladly accept it. smile.gif

aiks. please do this via pm smile.gif



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post Mar 11 2007, 12:49 PM

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Just want to do short research of the chip set temperature for Gigabyte 965 Series mobo ... State the mobo, cooler, idle and load temperature.

Mine:
Gigabyte DS3, Thermalright HR-05, Idle: 48c, Load: 52c

i feel like it's a bit hot but not sure whether it is true or not ... so need feedback from various forumer here....

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Doom, youre idle temperature is very high dude. sweat.gif

This is mine under priming for nearly 19hours:
[In normal room, non airconditioned]

Your HR-05 should have work better than my stupid dq6 that is full with those ugly heatpipe. sweat.gif

Picture:
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e6600 @ 3.2GHz @ Stock Vcore 1.312
400 X 8 = 1600MHz Bus Speed
VMCH & FSB Voltage @ +0.5 volts
Vdimm @ 2.15Volts

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post Mar 11 2007, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 11 2007, 12:49 PM)
Just want to do short research of the chip set temperature for Gigabyte 965 Series mobo ... State the mobo, cooler, idle and load temperature.

Mine:
Gigabyte DS3, Thermalright HR-05, Idle: 48c, Load: 52c

i feel like it's a bit hot but not sure whether it is true or not ... so need feedback from various forumer here....
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mine also DS3. using a 40mm fan to blow on the NB.
open 2 folding clients all the time.
E6400 @ 3.2GHZ (400x8, 1.375vcore in bios, +0.2 for both vmch and fsb, +0.3 for vdimm)
idle: 43c, Load: 44c. non air con.

izzit chipset temp = motherboard temp? wonder why temp same for idle and load for the motherboard temp.

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mine is around 45 maxed out with my stock hsf. not that bad compared to u guys eh?smile.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 11 2007, 02:20 PM)
Doom, youre idle temperature is very high dude. sweat.gif

This is mine under priming for nearly 19hours:
[In normal room, non airconditioned]

Your HR-05 should have work better than my stupid dq6 that is full with those ugly heatpipe. sweat.gif

Picture:
user posted image

e6600 @ 3.2GHz @ Stock Vcore 1.312
400 X 8 = 1600MHz Bus Speed
VMCH & FSB Voltage @ +0.5 volts
Vdimm @ 2.15Volts
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hmm i have the same thought when using HR-05, it should be lower ... but some how it turn out other wise .... one of the reason is the 8800GTS that increases the temperature of the case, CPU and chip set by 4 degrees which i spotted before and after getting the GC

anyway the temperature that u showed is with the G7 case and the 8800GTS inside the case ?

QUOTE(basSist @ Mar 11 2007, 05:50 PM)
mine also DS3. using a 40mm fan to blow on the NB.
open 2 folding clients all the time.
E6400 @ 3.2GHZ (400x8, 1.375vcore in bios, +0.2 for both vmch and fsb, +0.3 for vdimm)
idle: 43c, Load: 44c. non air con.

izzit chipset temp = motherboard temp? wonder why temp same for idle and load for the motherboard temp.

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hmm seem like not much of different between idle and load for ur chipset

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mine is around 45 maxed out with my stock hsf. not that bad compared to u guys eh?smile.gif
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hmm .. i am getting Asus P5B-E Plus soon ... what do u think about the mobo ...??
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QUOTE(Doom @ Mar 12 2007, 05:23 PM)
hmm i have the same thought when using HR-05, it should be lower ... but some how it turn out other wise .... one of the reason is the 8800GTS that increases the temperature of the case, CPU and chip set by 4 degrees which i spotted before and after getting the GC
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Bro, that temps is while i'm using GTX liao.
And when i'm using the GTS is also the same.

And yes, the system is in the G7 casing. smile.gif
There might be something wrong with your setup, or maybe the airflow is not properly flown, or maybe you didn't fit your HR-05 on the 965 chipset well. sweat.gif
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i have mounted the HR-05 for few times with AS5 but the temperature just never different so i took the risk to touch the heat sink with bear hand and it is really hot ...

further more the the top side of the card really release quiet amount of heat ... anyway what do u think my case configuration can be done ..

i was having 4 exhausts for the top, side, rear and PSU ..one for intake from bottom...

i also tried ... 3 exhaust for top, rear and PSU .. two intake through side and front bu the temperature rises 3 degrees for all ...

i also tried 2 exhaust from rear and PSU .. two intake from top and front ..
however it causes the rise of CPU while no different for chip set..

that's why thought of getting PC-G7 for testing if possible ...




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