Yes, I completely agree with you. It will get more interesting if the seller could manage to manufacture some positive reviews.

55" C8 @ 7.5k at toong heng pj (next to fatty crab). I'm gonna wait til the price hits 7 flat.

Get the 65 inches if possible , it is a little brighter than the 55 inches . Especially after calibration .

Normally I wouldn't care too much about a little brightness , but with Oled you will want every bit of brightness you can get because once the ABL starts to kick in , a lot of games and sport shows look really dark in comparison , even if the situation has improved from last year's model.


And the 5% gray uniformity is also a more severe issue on the 55 inches , which can be quite distracting

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 29 2018, 07:36 PM

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Are you sure about that? Screen uniformity is universally agreed and is statistically proven to be better on smaller panels.

Wow unbelievable! And i thought ringgit is getting worse. Damn good price

Normally yes

But the OLED screens have had this problem for a while ago , the near black uniformity particularly 3 or 5% have always been pretty bad.

Back then it was just stripes and vertical lines , but it has been getting severe . Something like this .



I have exchanged my 55 inches B7 twice because of this . The first one had a big patch of blackness botched at the center of the screen , the second exchanged one had the same problem but the dark spots were moved to corners . I have called LG but they don't think it is a defect either luckily HLK was nice enough to exchange it . I eventually give up and settled with the second one since the one I saw in their shop have similar problems .


I know at least 3 others owner who have experienced this , our 65 inches seem to be fine with just lines and stripes but nothing as bad as a patch of darkness so far.
I have seen the same thing happening on avforums, unfortunately this problem seems to be not so prominent among the reviewers since many of them use a bigger screen as review models. Rting 's review of 55 inches C8 briefly mentioned this as well in their gray uniformity test but they don't think it is too bad. Steve Withers reviewed a 65 inches and found no problems with it .

This can be pretty distracting sometimes , such as Marco Polo where there are a lot of near black scenes .
They are nevertheless more of a nuisance than any major defects.

This post has been edited by Convael: Jun 29 2018, 10:58 PM

While I never had a 55", this is interesting news to me. I've monitored a large majority of owners on the C7/B7 and B6 owners thread on AVSForum, they have shown their screen uniformity to be better than 65" owners. There are always more reports about 65" owners exchanging their sets than 55" owners.

I'll be calibrating a 55" C7 next week, I'm going to look into this.

Peak Brightness is more of a panel to panel variation. Not related to panel size.

I find 5% gray worse on 65' compared to 55' for 2017 models.

Near black uniformity will always be a challenge for OLEDs while bright screen uniformity is a challenge for LED backlit LCD technology.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jun 30 2018, 03:22 PM

I can accept more typical uniformity issues such as vertical lines / stripes but the these big patch of dark gray is downright unacceptable . It was so distracting on my 55 inches that I had an urge to replace them right away except the stores that sold me the screens don't want to deal with it anymore.

LG 's technician explanation for this is vague at best , since they think this is " normal " . But I am not seeing this on my 65 inches screen but it was on all my exchanged 55 inches units as well .

Of course this might as well be a defective batch , along with 3 other friends of mine who had the same problem , but I doubt it is mere coincidence .
I have spoke to several calibrators and they can't give me any definitive answer either.


For normal panels , the peak brightness can be different due to panel variance , but for Oled its somewhat a complicated situation because of its much stronger ABL which involved control circuitry of electricity output onto the screen. The ABL restriction is harder on a larger screens to prevent excessive heat , I have come across several w8 users that owned a 77 screen but their peak brightness are measured about 100 nits lower ( only @ about 600 nits ) , which put them in the same place as last year's Oled.





Note : This actually contradict with what I said previously on larger screen should generally be brighter , it should be the reversed . I must have had a brain fart back then My deepest apologies



This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 1 2018, 07:18 AM

thx , let me know the result



I wanted LG to do something about this but the local LG technician doesn't give a damn really .
A bunch of us from avsforum wanted LG to do something about this patches of dark grays , we might just end up petitioning to their UK headquarter

Are these LG technicians attached to certain stores?

Found one 55" C8 for around 7.2k in aeon Bukit raja klang. The cheapest found for this model


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regret pulling the trigger 2 weeks ago on a c7. Nice find though

read the first 10 pages of this thread. interesting info. thinking of getting an oled too. 55 most probably as i dont feel like spending that much on a tv for 65. i game too. So is c8 the best bet? its for an apartment. 65 in a small hall would look too big. i think. also the sitting position is 2-3 meters away. at the back of where the couch will be theres two horizontal windows and on the side is the sliding door for the balcony. Read here sunlight is not good for OLED. will it be ok for me to get on with my apartment setting? thanks

Glare caused by Sunlight is always distracting , even with the best anti reflection finish the picture quality will degrade to certain degree because of the strong environmental lights .
However a brighter TV can often perform better under the same situation.

If you really can't avoid the sunlights ,perhaps you want to consider getting a brighter TV such as the Samsung's Q9FN.


2-3 meters aren't too far away for a 65 inches , because we are talking about a UHD TV here . If your budget allows it , the 65 inches can be more flexible than the 55 inches . But in terms of PQ they should be identical .


C8 transforms all your HDR 10 (Static meta data ) into Dolby Vision - alike HDR (with Dynamic meta data ) , so if you watch a lot of HDR content it is worth picking one over C7
Otherwise just buy whichever you can find cheaper , from a reputable source of course .

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 5 2018, 07:57 PM

great bargain. use AMEX get another rm50 rebate over weekend

its not long now before it touch 7k, but IMO the price will rise after the implementation of SST. So the plug has to be pulled by end of Aug

yup. it will be more expensive if SST back to 10%

Thanks a lot for the advice. I think it’s just normal amount of sunight. Plus with curtains n 3M film I think it would b better

But not all media is 4K. What Do u mean by flexible?

Will the prices of electrical appliances really go up after SST?

A larger screen means you have more room to adjust the distance between you and the TV

Incase if you want to invite friends and guests to your house , a larger screen provide you with a wider viewing area before the brightness and colors starting to shift.
As much as OLEDS have one of the best viewing angles , the picture quality can still deteriorate when watched from the sides

This post has been edited by Convael: Jul 6 2018, 02:39 AM