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teen08
post Jul 5 2018, 06:50 PM

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read the first 10 pages of this thread. interesting info. thinking of getting an oled too. 55 most probably as i dont feel like spending that much on a tv for 65. i game too. So is c8 the best bet? its for an apartment. 65 in a small hall would look too big. i think. also the sitting position is 2-3 meters away. at the back of where the couch will be theres two horizontal windows and on the side is the sliding door for the balcony. Read here sunlight is not good for OLED. will it be ok for me to get on with my apartment setting? thanks
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post Jul 6 2018, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 5 2018, 07:52 PM)
Glare caused by Sunlight is always distracting , even with the best anti reflection finish the picture quality will degrade to certain degree because of the strong environmental lights .
However a brighter TV can often perform better under the same situation.

If you really can't avoid the sunlights  ,perhaps you want to consider getting a brighter TV such as the Samsung's  Q9FN.
2-3 meters aren't too far away for a 65 inches  , because we are talking about a UHD TV here . If your budget allows it , the 65 inches can be more flexible than the 55 inches . But in terms of PQ they should be identical .
C8 transforms all your HDR 10 (Static meta data ) into Dolby Vision - alike HDR (with Dynamic meta data ) , so if you watch a lot of HDR content it is worth picking one over C7
Otherwise just buy whichever you can find cheaper , from a reputable source of course .
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Thanks a lot for the advice. I think it’s just normal amount of sunight. Plus with curtains n 3M film I think it would b better

But not all media is 4K. What Do u mean by flexible?

QUOTE(Alias @ Jul 5 2018, 08:33 PM)
its not long now before it touch 7k, but IMO the price will rise after the implementation of SST. So the plug has to be pulled by end of Aug
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Will the prices of electrical appliances really go up after SST?
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post Jul 6 2018, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jul 6 2018, 01:21 AM)
A larger screen means you have more room to adjust the distance between you and the TV

Incase if you want to invite friends and guests to your house , a larger screen provide you with a wider viewing area before the brightness and colors starting to shift.
As much as OLEDS have one of the best viewing angles , the picture quality can still deteriorate when watched from the sides
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Thanks for the info. Will look into the 65. Hopefefully it doesn’t look “out of place” in the apartment.
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post Jul 6 2018, 11:11 AM

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Will the prices of electrical appliance go up after sst? If it’s significant then I’ll buy it before SST kicks in. Thanks
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post Jul 8 2018, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(kucuboy @ Jul 6 2018, 12:43 PM)
Oled TV prices are expensive, any price increase by % will make the price increase very noticeable as compared to cheaper items. I would advise to buy before SST kicks in
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 6 2018, 05:36 PM)
SST does not mean prices will immediately shoot up 10%. Calm down guys.
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Thanks for the info guys.
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post Jul 14 2018, 10:34 AM

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Hi, sorry if its a noob Q. But is this true for OLEDs nowadays? That means the resale value also drop significantly?

quote "As for drawbacks, one widely cited problem is that OLED displays don't last as long: degradation of the organic molecules meant that early versions of OLEDs tended to wear out around four times faster than conventional LCDs or LED displays. Manufacturers have been working hard to address this and it's much less of a problem than it used to be. Another difficulty is that organic molecules in OLEDs are very sensitive to water. Though that shouldn't be a problem for domestic products such as TV sets and home computers, it might present more of a challenge in portable products such as cellphones."

https://www.explainthatstuff.com/how-oleds-...-leps-work.html
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post Aug 23 2018, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Jun 16 2018, 09:29 AM)
Spent the last several days , testing my C8 . This bad boy is kicking some serious asses .
I must say I particularly love the new BFI on C8 ,  I can sit closer to the TV without getting dazzled by all the hardcore action scenes now .
Also for gamers , the new dynamic tone mapping makes a Day and night difference for gaming  . Wouldn't recommend it for movies though  , especially those mastered in Dolby vision are already very bright .
Last year they patched the OLED with a nerf on the brightness and APL , causing the a lot of games , such as Horizon Zero to look way too dark. You can offset this by turning on dynamic  contrast, however this cause a lot of details to be lost behind the brighter area.  The dynamic tone mapping is different , they analyze metadata and selectively brighten zone or object carefully with the new a9 CPU , the result is HDR highlight and zones that look a lot more iluminating than any OLED TV, yet retaining most of the fine and delicate details on screen .
I know a lot of reviewers say it isn't worth the upgrade from last year , but that is because they are not primarily gamers . For me , this feature alone is good enough of a reason to upgrade from last year's model.
My verdict : if you are a gamer , the C8 along with other 8 series  ( except B8  ) are probably the most amazing TV money can buy now  . The AF8 seem to still struggle with input lag , and Sony's OLED approach to the HDR just doesn't seem right to me , they choose to go for the brighter route and overblown the HDR details ,  one of purposes of getting a good HDR display was to check out all the glorious details behind the bright and colorful lights to begin with .
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hi sorry noob in all this. hope u can help
how to activate BFI? motion pro??? does it have soap opera effect?
dynamic tone mapping is on in game mode?

finally got my c8. no regrets!! awesomeness!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 23 2018, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 21 2018, 10:08 PM)
For SDR , in a darkroom you want to keep the OLED lights lower so the brightness look more comfortable (100 ~ 200 cd/m2) and natural to the eyes .

The settings suggested by rting is not very practical because they calibrate their TVs in a completely sealed , dark room without any source of lights .  I find 62 on ISF Dark room with contrast @ 85 ( ~ 200 cd/m2  )  to be perfectly acceptable assuming you have a wee bit of light from kitchen , street lamp from the window etc .

Don't mess with the Dolby Vision OLED lights setting above 50 as it changes the gamma .
LG do minor calibration for their TVs before shipping out . That's why everytime after I replaced the default OLED screens  , the settings feel a bit off and had to be calibrated again.

While this is by no means  , comparable to hiring an experienced calibrator , the out of box settings should be accurate enough for most people .
The last few % is to make your chart look prettier and the color temperature closer to 6500k , average Joes won't notice much of a difference .
If you are one of those AV enthusiast aiming to get closer to perfection , there's when you hire a calibrator . Post calibration I noticed better near black details , colors look a little more natural especially skin tones of human look extremely realistic .
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mind sharing your setting?
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Aug 23 2018, 08:55 PM)
Yes the motion pro is BFI , no soap opera effects but there is another problem here , the flicker is too obvious . Some people are more tolerant to flickers .
There brightness on the screen also take a hit .

This is what I use :

Picture profile : ISF Expert Dark  / Technicolor
Energy Saving : Off
Aspect ratio  : Original
Just scan : On
OLED Light  : Perfect dark room : 35 ~ , Normal Dark  / Dim room : 60 ~ ,  100 for HDR , 50 for Dolby Vision
Contrast : 85 (100 for HDR )
Brightness  : 50
Sharpness  : 10 ( 0 if you are watching ULTRA HD bluray )
Color : 50
Tint : 0

Dynamic contrast : Off
Dynamic Tonemapping ( in HDR only  ) : On ( reason to buy C8 , always leave it on )
Super resolution : Off
Color gamut  : Auto
Gamma : 2.2

White balance 
Color temp : Warm2
Don't touch the rest of the settings unless you are calibrating the TV.

Noise reduction  : Off ( low for youtube videos )
MPEG noise reduction  : On , low
*** This activate gradient smoothing at the cost of sacrificing some fine details .  Video purist suggests turning it off but I have gone through extensive amount of movies and I find this feature really helpful , the fine details removal only happen in very specific scene which is quite rare. I leave it on low .

Black level  : Low ( for full RGB , change this to high )
Motion Eye Care  : Off
TruMotion  : Off / Custom (3 , 3  or  0 , 5 , you can adjust this to your preference) . If you don't mind the soap opera effects " CLEAR " generates less motion artifact and is more usable than " SMOOTH "
Motion Pro  : Off  ( the BFI , too much flickers  for me )
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Thanks for this. Appreciate it! I tried rtings settings. Not to my liking.

 

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