I've been using the OCD for quite some time now, and it's part of my routine. Yes, there will be some wastage, but because my dosage is 14.1, it's really minimal. There are no channeling issues, and with darker roasts, I can load in 12g in a VST 15g basket and still have proper extraction.

The minor wastage, I normally knock the OCD on the knock box to clear. So the counter-top is normally clean.

hi both lowkl & Dan430

nice insightful tips! thanks both!

Can't afford the original, wonder how close is the design of a knockoff.

Good to find a positive note. Compare with old fashion tamping u see the value?

Yeah... that the word .... haha.... Yup it taste good with it is brew as hot drink but not so good when it brew as cold drink.... I will be trying rubix next.....

Haven't tried Purveyor with ice as i prefer my coffee hot
I've tried Rubix in the past, find it lacking some kick, perhaps that's what they mean by achieving Harmony with milk, so the milk kinda blends in to the espresso, reducing the "kick". Perhaps after you've tried it let me know your feedback.

Not sure of the ridges on the OEMs but from the pictures they differ from OCD. The ones on the OCD basically distributes and cuts off the excess grinds according to the level you set it to (something like stockfleth's method) while the ridges on the OEM seems to only distribute.

It's an improvement for classic tamping.

Awesome thread! Just picked up this espresso interest few months back. Saving up like crazy for Rancilio Silvia and found out that our neighbor (SG) are selling the set (Rancilio Silvia Latest + Rancilio Rocky Grinder) at SGD1,350 - SGD1,600, which is way much cheaper than at Cuppa.

Just wondering has anyone ever successfully brought espresso machines from SG to Malaysia through airport or border? I'm talking about a new machine with no box, which can be considered as used machine la.. The kick is to lari from tax when landing in Malaysia. Heard the sales tax / import duties can go up to 30%

This post has been edited by jsoe8: Oct 10 2016, 12:51 PM

Get oscar 2 instead

OEM is distribution tool. It does not cut away the excess ground. I dont wan it to cut away the ground that i hv weight. This tool help me alot. The level of depth to distribute can adjust like the OCD

Single shot. If u adjust the distribution depth deeper i dont even need to tamp the ground. I can keep my tamper away d. Very happy with the even leveling and espresso pull. Result more crema n no channeling compare with my regular tamper. Real smart invention for consistant pull, no need skill or practise to get nice pull

This post has been edited by luvox: Oct 10 2016, 03:34 PM


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Time to do some research.. Can't seem to find a head to head comparison between the two machines.

Is the performance a lot better than Rancilio? Some guidance please it's going to be my first semi-auto machine.

Coffee Ritual quoting Oscar 2 at 4k while Cuppa quoted Silvia at 3.7k

In terms of looks IMHO, I like the rugged look of Silvia a lot though. Oscar 2 is a bit too futuristic.

how does the thing work? just put on top of the porta filter? then? sorry noob here

Woah HUGE difference. one is single boiler and another is heat exchanger. it will be better if you let us know what type of coffee drinker you are. Espresso or milk base, if Both then get the oscar 2 but then again at both the price better go for oscar 2.

Search on mudah.com for some good deals too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebtRIu-Fg3I

@Luvox Hmmm how do you find the build quality and also the fit? u using standard basket or ?? btw good price that does the job well!!

That video is skilled barista review. U wont find this distribution tool useful if ur dosing is at the portafilter lid level, able to distribute the ground with finger, and ur tamping is consistant.
I use single shot basket, personal reason. This distribution tool useful for people like me want to hv consistant good cup of coffee & dont care about traditional skill 😉 Furthermore it only cost me rm 60 plus rm13 shipping fees together with my other stuff purchased from taobao

It fit well and good solid metal 511gram

This post has been edited by luvox: Oct 10 2016, 04:33 PM

Thank you for your honest review. I'm a single dose person too and no i don't dose till the lips like what most pros do.. so i do find getting lvl tamp kinda frustrating at times, as i usually shake and use a stick to stir and tamp. but i guess under rm100 its a good deal and if it don't work it will be my weight balancer on the grinder. haha

Nice professional way of measuring those shot.... Mine is simple, as long as the coffee ground doesn't over the rigged line too much then it is all good. i always get good constant shot taste with crema. The only way i know if it is too much or too little ground, is when my tamper base is either over the half or under half of the base when i tamp it.

+1 from me
Get the oscar 2 as well,
I came from rancilio silvia ver 3. before i switch over Simonelli Oscar ver 1.

Silvia is a nice machine, all built of metal, robust even for internal parts hence the design of the silvia hardly change for 4 generation which makes it good because it prolong your machine as the spare part are available when breakdown any time due to similar design for 4 generation.

With this machine, it is recommended that you get the PID install to give a consistent control of the temperature because sometime the temperature can be exceeding the recommendation temp for brewing. Customize with PID is easy (Yes, i do customize my machine with PID back then, mine PID is low end type so no preinfusion included) and also it allow hot water dispenser which also makes it easy to do internal self cleaning.

As for the steam, it is as good as the oscar model, strong and powerful with single hole tip which required a little bit of technique getting used to for the milk to swirl in the pitcher to get the microfoam but once you get the hang out of it then your good to go.

Now the problem comes when the machine is a single boiler machine, mean that you can only do 1 process at 1 time. Each process complete needed to wait for like 10 second or more for the next process to happen because it need time to heat up the boiler for next process. By that time, either your milk or coffee become a bit cold due to waiting process. Hence that were the PID comes into play, It will help you to speed up abit the heating process (It wont damage your internal machine parts since it also control temp).


I cant comment much about Oscar ver 2. since i don't owned them but if you like to know about Oscar Ver 1. i can let you know


That is my review and take on Rancilio Silvia

Yup, with mudah, you can even get a commercial machine grade with price close to your Oscar or Silvia but bare in mind most of the owner who sell their machine are cafe owner. So you just got to beware on the internal parts and the machine year of service

P/S: i got my Simonelli Oscar from the cafe owner as well.

This post has been edited by d33pbluez: Oct 11 2016, 11:37 AM

Hello sifu! Hahaha thank you! thats very much the review I wanted to know from a Silvia owner. Yeah you are right, the "do 1 one thing at a time" that comes with a singlw boiler machine is kinda a drawback while they are on the same price range. and about the PID on silvia or any other machine, i don't think i'm intending to go that 'side' any time soon.

Tried looking at mudah for Silvia but nothing. Gaggia also nothing. Now eyeing on oscar 2 la, saving up a bit more should be fine. hahaha. Now another headache: Grinder to pair up with. Baratza/mahlkonig vario? Any owner review?

Ahaha, i'm not sifu's .... Just sharing my experience first hand since i used before Rancilio Silvia Ver 3.... that machine serve me well during my time of using but i regret that i should had go with the Oscar instead of Silvia because i was think steel made machine was cool but didn't really think deep into the functionality and usage until you really go deep into it.... that why i u-turn back to Oscar ver 1. now.

Regarding on the PID, i think it is much more suitable to be used on the Rancilio Silvia rather then other machine (Unless you are the micro down type of coffee drinker or coffee proffesor that need for research and perfectionist in coffee brewing type). With Oscar i don have to worry about temperature because it seem that heat exchange had better control then single boiler. Currently i'm happy with Oscar machine output on temp.

There used to be 2 machine seller for Silvia but i guess they sold off their machine already.

As for the grinder, i think Baratza/mahlkonig vario is not a bad choice but why not save up for sette 270. It had much improvement over Baratza/mahlkonig vario and also reduce much of the stale ground that left over after the grind....Plus the design are cool too

This post has been edited by d33pbluez: Oct 12 2016, 11:39 AM

Papapalheta SG opened a Pre-order for Sette 270 at SGD 580. Let's just wait until the Malaysian branch bring it in. Considering its hype, the price tag is quite reasonable though.

you should try this from mahlkonig...K30 Vario



Saw a lot of cafe using this.... Seem quiet good