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TSIamDaryl
post Dec 10 2006, 12:04 PM, updated 19y ago

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Currently planning to study MBA while working...any good options of colleges or universities to study...??
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:11 AM

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ive enrolled and was accepted for the MBA offered by Unity College International with collaboration with University of Ballarat, Australia.

but the classes are held after work .. mostly at 6pm on tuesday and thursday. I would prefer to have weekend classes. anyone any idea which college/uni offers weekend classes ?
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post Dec 11 2006, 10:22 AM

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a good MBA imho will probably be from the University of Nottingham ...but the entry requirements are rather high too.. good luck in selecting
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post Dec 13 2006, 05:42 PM

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Just did some searching...there are several good MBAs available in Malaysia...the best i can locate is manchester business school in Sunway college...we also have monash university and university of south australia in ITD...of coz qualification and cost will be another concern....
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post Dec 13 2006, 05:57 PM

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DO make sure you have good working experience though. Most universities that accepts you with very little working experience are usuallylow ranking universities.
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post Dec 14 2006, 01:05 AM

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How abt University of Strathclayde??? Distance Learning provide by CDC Management. Only need to go for Fri, Sat & Sun coursework. Has 3 accrediation.
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post Dec 14 2006, 02:07 AM

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usually...universities accept 2 years of working experience...but some do have minimum age requirements...
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post Dec 14 2006, 11:43 AM

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I am MBA graduated from SEGi Collegues with partnership in Australia University of Sunshine Coast.

I would rather said, what is your budget before you going to choose which are the best university/collugues. If you dont have budget problem, Go for UK base MBA (quite expensive RM40k++). For Australia MBA is about RM20-RM40K+

I would agree with GrIM about University of Nottingham.
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post Dec 14 2006, 11:50 AM

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I am a MBA graduate from Prime College (SEGI), partner with University of Southern Queensland... major in International Business.

Time required = 2 years part-time

Total spent = close to 34k (2nd year exam fees in AUD)

Total subjects = 13

Classes on weekends .. 4 hours each subject with tea break in-between
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post Dec 14 2006, 12:15 PM

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yeah...lately seen lotsa ads from SEGi on regards to their MBA programs...there is one from University of Sunderland which costs bout RM26k...btw...anyone here from ITD collaborate with University of South Australia?
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post Dec 14 2006, 01:10 PM

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University of Bath of UK is good too but the fee is a bit expensive biggrin.gif
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post Dec 14 2006, 01:36 PM

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Which college is offering that...university of bath....and how much izzit...thanx
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post Dec 15 2006, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(khsj @ Dec 15 2006, 02:57 PM)
What about Herriot Watt? anyone heard of this?
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ya...heard before....itd is offering it as well...but dunno how much will it cost...
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post Dec 16 2006, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(six66 @ Dec 11 2006, 10:11 AM)
ive enrolled and was accepted for the MBA offered by Unity College International with collaboration with University of Ballarat, Australia.

but the classes are held after work .. mostly at 6pm on tuesday and thursday. I would prefer to have weekend classes. anyone any idea which college/uni offers weekend classes ?
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Heard Unity Ballarat programmes are filled with china students who can't even string a proper sentence in English.

No doubt some may be smart, but it's hard to get a proper and intelligible conversation or discussion going with them.

Got a friend who told me the service at Unity is pathetic, at best.
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post Dec 16 2006, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(anggoh @ Dec 14 2006, 01:05 AM)
How abt University of Strathclayde??? Distance Learning provide by CDC Management. Only need to go for Fri, Sat & Sun coursework. Has 3 accrediation.
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Please check if it's LAN accredited. The programme may have accreditation for thier on-campus programmes in Scotland.

CDC Management is not a registered and recognised Institution of Higher Learning (IPTS), and thus incapable of offering MBAs in partnership with any foreign university.

You're probably fooled into signing up for a distance programme. Please check if CDC is an approved regional centre by the Ministry. Ask for the letter. If not, you'll have problems with loans, epf withdrawal and even recognition from the government or majority of private sectors now.

Be careful!
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post Dec 16 2006, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(IamDaryl @ Dec 14 2006, 01:36 PM)
Which college is offering that...university of bath....and how much izzit...thanx
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Bath was one time offered at MIM and HELP but was dropped. It then went to Inti I think but partnership ended when Inti was found to flout quality rules by the uni.

Am clueless as to whether this MBA is now available in Malaysia...dont' seem to advertise lately.
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post Dec 19 2006, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Teong @ Dec 16 2006, 11:26 AM)
Bath was one time offered at MIM and HELP but was dropped. It then went to Inti I think but partnership ended when Inti was found to flout quality rules by the uni.

Am clueless as to whether this MBA is now available in Malaysia...dont' seem to advertise lately.
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Thanks teong...btw...do u have any good MBA programme to suggest?
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post Dec 28 2006, 12:29 PM

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You could try the University of southern queensland mba offered at segi subang. Got quite a few contacts who studied there. It's popular with young executives and managers and the quality is good, compared to those offered at other private colleges.

The one at UM is also pretty good but leans towards more theory. You can take it at their regional office in KL city.
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post Jan 1 2007, 03:43 AM

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i enrolled in with SEGI's MBA....from University of South Queensland.....

Class starts next saturday.....part time course.....
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post Jan 1 2007, 02:06 PM

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err...how about oum's mba
nobody ever heard of it b4?
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post Jan 1 2007, 02:59 PM

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nottingham's mba is the best in malaysia....no doubt...
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post Jan 1 2007, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Jan 1 2007, 03:43 AM)
i enrolled in with SEGI's MBA....from University of South Queensland.....

Class starts next saturday.....part time course.....
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Im also thinking of dat option...how much is the cost of the whole course??...guess the duration will be 2 years rite...all classes will be in the weekends??...thank bro...
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post Jan 1 2007, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(IamDaryl @ Jan 1 2007, 05:41 PM)
Im also thinking of dat option...how much is the cost of the whole course??...guess the duration will be 2 years rite...all classes will be in the weekends??...thank bro...
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Yes...the classes will be on weekends....
according to the timetable given, saturdays are from 2-6 or 2-7
sundays are mostly from 9-2 or 9-1....but there is one sunday from 9 all the way to 6....with 1 hour for lunch...

the duration is 2 years...

the fees are as follows...i'll explain the discounts later

1st year
Application fees - RM300
Registration Fees - RM700
Course Fees - RM6000
Exam Fees - RM1500
5%(of course fees) full payment discount - (RM300)
Early Bird Discount - (RM500)
Total for 1st year - RM7700

2nd year
Course Fees - RM9000
Exam Fees - AUD 3840
5%(of course fees) full payment discounts - (RM450)
Early Bird Discount - (RM1500)
Total for 2nd year = RM7050 + AUD3840

so in total, the whole course is RM7700 + RM7050 + AUD3840 = RM 25,118(taking AUD1 = RM2.7)

On the discounts, if u pay in full (1 shot pay 1 year), u'll be entitled to a 5% discount off the COURSE FEES
Early bird discounts - RM2000. RM500 will be deducted in the 1st year, the remaining (RM1500) will either be given to u as air ticket to go to australia for ur graduation OR u can deduct it from your fees....
i dont know if early bir discount are still available or not...i'll ask about it on 3rd jan....coz one my my friend is interested if the early bird discounts are still available...i'll post it here...

Text books are not included...although they did give me "study materials".....about 1 inch thick photostated books that contains notes and course structures and stuff....

hope that helps....if u need to know more, just pn me...i'll answer it if i can.....hehehe
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I am currently doing my MBA at Universiti Tun Abdul Razak. The total tuition fees is about RM17k- 18k. The duration of the course depends on how many subjects you take per semester. If you take on average 3 subjects for long semester (4 mths) and 2 subjects for short semester (2 mths), you would be able to finish in 2 years' time.

Classes are held on weekends, and sometimes, you will have to attend online classes, depending on the lecturers. The programme is supposed to incorporate online learning and face to face learning. As usual, some lecturers are good, and some lecturers are just "so-so".

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post Jan 2 2007, 12:18 AM

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For Universiti Tun Abdul Razak, the MBA is theirs right?
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Few questions to ask, hav u guys ever survey wat's the salary different after obtain MBA? Wat's the different between oversee and local MBA? Pls advice.

Thanks!! hands.gif
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post Jan 2 2007, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Jan 1 2007, 08:57 PM)
Yes...the classes will be on weekends....
according to the timetable given, saturdays are from 2-6 or 2-7
sundays are mostly from 9-2 or 9-1....but there is one sunday from 9 all the way to 6....with 1 hour for lunch...

the duration is 2 years...

the fees are as follows...i'll explain the discounts later

1st year
Application fees - RM300
Registration Fees - RM700
Course Fees - RM6000
Exam Fees - RM1500
5%(of course fees) full payment discount - (RM300)
Early Bird Discount - (RM500)
Total for 1st year - RM7700

2nd year
Course Fees - RM9000
Exam Fees - AUD 3840
5%(of course fees) full payment discounts - (RM450)
Early Bird Discount - (RM1500)
Total for 2nd year = RM7050 + AUD3840

so in total, the whole course is RM7700 + RM7050 + AUD3840 = RM 25,118(taking AUD1 = RM2.7)

On the discounts, if u pay in full (1 shot pay 1 year), u'll be entitled to a 5% discount off the COURSE FEES
Early bird discounts - RM2000.  RM500 will be deducted in the 1st year, the remaining (RM1500) will either be given to u as air ticket to go to australia for ur graduation OR u can deduct it from your fees....
i dont know if early bir discount are still available or not...i'll ask about it on 3rd jan....coz one my my friend is interested if the early bird discounts are still available...i'll post it here...

Text books are not included...although they did give me "study materials".....about 1 inch thick photostated books that contains notes and course structures and stuff....

hope that helps....if u need to know more, just pn me...i'll answer it if i can.....hehehe
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Thank bro for dat detail information....really helps a lot...btw...for da classes timetable...is it standard across all segi coll branches or only to specific ones??...
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IamDaryl,
I find it difficult to give recommendations on what a "good" MBA is. Lots of MBAs been mentioned throughout this thread and honestly, I too have had pretty good reviews and feedback of the MBA offered by University of Nottingham.

Should you decide to pursue a p/time MBA here in KL with a local instituition, it is true that the UK universities are costlier than those offered by the Australian universities [it could be due to exchange rates, etc? *shrugs*]. From my past experience (i'm unable to confirm if my findings are still accurate today), you will realise UK-based universities have more requirements; thus far, when I enquired, only the UK-based uni's had a MINIMUM age requirement; but if you're above 28, you shouldn't need to worry about this.

One of the more important aspects of an MBA would be the interaction and discussions between fellow 'classmates' hence it is important to ensure you enrol yourself in a course where your classmates WILL be able to share. It may be difficult to gauge upon enrolment but if majority of your classmates are going to be 'fresh graduates' with no working experience, chances are they will not be able to share their 'wealth of knowledge/practical experience' [there are exceptions ok?]. The more 'outspoken' the group, the more learning you will get from your MBA.

The facilitators also play an important role. They're not there to LECTURE but to FACILITATE discussions and workshops. And obviously, to GUIDE you. Bounce ideas off them as I'm sure they too can learn a thing or two from you thumbup.gif

Do not use 'total contact hours' as your gauge to the best course as it is a matter of preference. Also, be realistic to the amount of time you're able to commit during the entire duration of your programme.

I hope you find the course you're looking for. Good Luck!


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The initial difference in salary's probably negligable I think hmm.gif . I haven't done an official survey nor had much discussion with friends/associates on this subject but I'm of the opinion that an MBA graduate will climb the corporate ladder faster than a non MBA holder. All said, the MBA too is merely a piece of paper hence work experience and personal attitude also contributes significantly to an individual's value within an organisation.

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QUOTE(IamDaryl @ Jan 2 2007, 01:48 AM)
Thank bro for dat detail information....really helps a lot...btw...for da classes timetable...is it standard across all segi coll branches or only to specific ones??...
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i think all segi colleges are offering different courses....i.e. only australian MBAs are offered in Segi Ss2 while UK based MBAs are offered in subang.....so i think the timetable are specific ones...

QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 2 2007, 02:08 AM)
IamDaryl,
Should you decide to pursue a p/time MBA here in KL with a local instituition, it is true that the UK universities are costlier than those offered by the Australian universities [it could be due to exchange rates, etc? *shrugs*].  From my past experience (i'm unable to confirm if my findings are still accurate today), you will realise UK-based universities have more requirements; thus far, when I enquired, only the UK-based uni's had a MINIMUM age requirement; but if you're above 28, you shouldn't need to worry about this.
UK MBAs are about the same price as Australian MBAs....from my searchings.....and Australina MBAs do practice the minimum age requirement....for eg, University of South Queensland (segi) requires at least 23 years of agewith basic degree WITH 2 years working experience OR 25 years of age with recognised diploma and 5 years working experience OR 30 years of age without degree with at least 5 years working experience in a superisory/middle managerial capacity and satisfactory 100 words writeup.

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One of the more important aspects of an MBA would be the interaction and discussions between fellow 'classmates' hence it is important to ensure you enrol yourself in a course where your classmates WILL be able to share.  It may be difficult to gauge upon enrolment but if majority of your classmates are going to be 'fresh graduates' with no working experience, chances are they will not be able to share their 'wealth of knowledge/practical experience' [there are exceptions ok?].  The more 'outspoken' the group, the more learning you will get from your MBA.
VERY true. I've heard from my friends who are from Charles Sturt university/HELP(CSU/Help) about this.
It's like this, CSU/HELP's MBA courses are 80% assingment and only 20% exam. and they dont require an age limit nor working experience(i asked about this already, as long as u have a degree, u can enroll) It was very hard for them to do thier assignments as a lot of the students are fresh grads and they are still bringing their way of studying from degree level, although they are already in Masters level.

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lokgotz,
Thanks for correcting me re current MBA fees & entry requirements blush.gif . Guess I better stop giving too much input in this area since my information's outdated but will try to share some thoughts on other matters.

To get the best and most out of your MBA, form a 'study group' as soon as you can and limit it to X number. It is vital whom you choose to make up this study group but keep your eyes open for those who seems sharp and whom you think be able to help exponentially increase your learning curve *grins* biggrin.gif . Obviously, they're also the ones who'll be motivating you to keep going, etc. They become like family to you over time.

As a general rule, u should be able to tell if this person's able to give you insights and share his experiences and be an asset to your study group over an entire weekend of lectures.

I had my fair share of challenges and obstacles but my study group became my 'life-line'. Thinking back, I sure am glad they invited me to join their group sweat.gif despite my handicap in several areas doh.gif .

All the best and good luck! Haf fun while learning too ya? whistling.gif

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Saw the segi southern queensland mba advertised few days back. Apparently, it's LAN/ MOHE approved.

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Anyone knows if Monash offering MBA at their campus in sunway?...saw their ads in paper that they do offer postgraduate studies.....there will b star education fair tomorrow...will check out all the available courses then...
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IamDaryl,
I'm assuming you're gonna go for the Star Education fair? Well, if you do, could you do me a favour - you're afterall gonna be checking out ALL the available courses right?! *grins* rolleyes.gif

Will PM you the little favour in a bit cool.gif Thanks in advance!

Teong,
Unless you've plans to work with the government, it really doesn't matter if it's LAN/MOE accredited. Just be sure the uni's recognised biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Teong @ Jan 5 2007, 11:20 AM)
Saw the segi southern queensland mba advertised few days back. Apparently, it's LAN/ MOHE approved.
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it is LAN approved......

gonna start my MBA course in 10 hours time....hahaha.......

it's the induction day for segi southern queensland uni........hahahah.........
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lokgotz,
U sure are excited! Hope u haf fun, and let us know how the Induction went yah? Oh, any lenglui's? drool.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 6 2007, 10:55 AM)
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U sure are excited!  Hope u haf fun, and let us know how the Induction went yah?  Oh, any lenglui's?  drool.gif
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just came back from class.....hehehe.......got refreshments some more.....

leng lui got 1 or 2 lah...but have to see the class tomorrow as it is the complete class....

today's induction is only for those who joined the jan-march class.....there are existing students.....so tomorrow lah....hehehe
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Er, of course sure will have refreshments lah - takkan study so many hours no refreshment break meh? Besides, i'm sure the cost of it been embedded into your course fees *grins* blush.gif

Speaking of which, got how many students this intake? And, did you take my advise to try identifying who you wanna form your study group with?

Ok, so now we know got 1/2 leng lui's... what about leng jai's? [pls dun include urself on the list yawn.gif ] heh heh....

Haf fun @ class tomorrow
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If you can venture across the causeway, NUS has joint MBA programs with Harvard and Insead. NUS itself is one of the top 100 MBAs globally.

The well-known American MBAs are most well regarded by employers. I'm sure you know Harvard, Princeton, Chicago, Stanford, Wharton etc etc. Consultancies like BCG and McKinsey tend to recruit most of their staff from these 1st tier MBAs.

European MBAs are quite well regarded, but not as many. Insead's the most well known and 1st tier. UK MBAs are generally mostly 2nd or 3rd tier, but some like LBS, Manchester and Warwick are very well known.

The best Aussie MBAs are from UNSW-AGSM and Melbourne Biz School. The rest are generally 3rd tier.

Most local employers don't pay extra for MBAs. It's usually the MNCs which value MBAs, especially if you have it on top of a purely technical first degree. They see it as an indication of potential and an awareness of business acumen.

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QUOTE(Pillow @ Jan 2 2007, 12:18 AM)
For Universiti Tun Abdul Razak, the MBA is theirs right?
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Yeap... It's an MBA from UNITAR
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seantang,
Your location states Ipoh/Singapore. Just by any chance, you're pursuing any one of the 2 MBAs you mentioned? Yes, INSEAD's one is definitely a reputable, v recognised course biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 7 2007, 01:10 PM)
seantang,
Your location states Ipoh/Singapore.  Just by any chance, you're pursuing any one of the 2 MBAs you mentioned?  Yes, INSEAD's one is definitely a reputable, v recognised course  biggrin.gif
No lah, I'm too old and unmotivated to study anymore. But I reckon it's a great opportunity to get a top tier coursework MBA, that rivals even the top US ones, without having to go all the way to the US or Europe.

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how much for CSU/HELP mba course?
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seantang,
Age is nothing but a number. Isn't that how the saying goes? Then again, it is true too that when age catches up with us, our priorities changes.... rolleyes.gif but you're definitely right about having the opportunity to pursue well reputable MBAs in this region biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bryon @ Jan 7 2007, 08:45 PM)
how much for CSU/HELP mba course?
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HELP is about rm21k total.....CSU is RM7800 difference....

i forgot what's the exact fugure....but RM7800 was stressed and stressed and stressed so many times that i remember the price.......
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 6 2007, 06:34 PM)
lokgotz,
Er, of course sure will have refreshments lah - takkan study so many hours no refreshment break meh?  Besides, i'm sure the cost of it been embedded into your course fees *grins*  blush.gif

Speaking of which, got how many students this intake?  And, did you take my advise to try identifying who you wanna form your study group with?

Ok, so now we know got 1/2 leng lui's... what about leng jai's? [pls dun include urself on the list  yawn.gif ] heh heh....

Haf fun @ class tomorrow
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today also got refreshments....hahaha.....maybe every class also got refreshments.....heheheh.....

there are more than 1/2 leng luis rclxm9.gif .....hehehe....leng jai dun have......if i am not a leng jai then no one is a leng jai........ whistling.gif so i am gonna say there are no leng jai...unless u take back ur word....hehe

i dont knwo how many students are in this intake...but there seems to be a bit of problem....

University of Southern Queensland (USQ) and University of Sunshine Coast (USC) are both offered by Segi......for the 1st year of MBA, the subjects for these 2 universities are the same.....the only difference is the assessments. USQ is 50% exam and 50% assignments (1 assignment for each module), USC is 100% assignments (2 assignments for each module)...First assignments for both universities are the same...

For today's class, Segi combined both these university students into 1 class of about 50-60 students...which is really ridiculous as discussions with such a large group is a bit hard.....

I am taking 2 modules this semester, Business Computing and Marketing Management....

Marketing Management is still ok according to all the people i talked to...this is because the lecturer is covering for both assignment based and exam based students..his lectures are also detailed and easy to understand..and the study materials provided by the college is usable...all the things that he is going to talk about is in the study materials provided...(i think this lecturer is one of the more senior and have a bit of authority in the post grad dept of segi...i am not too sure though)

However, in Business Computing, the lecturer is teaching stuff from the text book...which is very theoratical....and according to him, everyone will not have any problems with the first assignments as everyone is having the same assignments....

The USC students are very concerned about this as they do not need all these theoratical stuff....they just want to do assignments, hand it up and pass the subject....

The USQ students are concerned about the subject and lecturer itself.....he uses slides to teach, and just reading through it....although he explained it here and there, he did not provide lecture notes...i know in MBA, u have to make ur own notes, but the way he is teaching, i dont even understand, how am i gonna write my notes?....he also said that he will not touch the study material that the college distributed for this subject (which is damn easy....introduction to computers, input output devices etc...) ...he uses too many management jargons(i was a Comp Sci graduate and i am in the IT line, i dont really understand a lot of the terms...value chain, 4Ps, Pestel something...)..and the way he is teaching is really confusing...the examples that he gave in explaining a theory is not clear also...i enjoyed the case study though....

the lecturer did say that in the second part of the semester, the college might be splitting the 2 unis into seperate classes....but that is not confirmed yet...

a lot of the students complained these issues to the program coordinator......she says she will look into it...

Existing students said that last semester, the 2 unis were split into seperate classes....

Since today is the 1st class, i am not gonna judge it.......

I did meet a lot of students today, but forming a study group is eeermm....not suitable for me...i like to study alone in a quiet environment.....studying in a study group sometimes tends to lead to chit chatting and there will be someone who is pretending to be studying but his mind is some where else....that someone is usually me....i'll see how it goes as it progress.....
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Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
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Reading ur posting gave me a headache rclxub.gif

Yes, u will soon come to realise that every class you attend, you will be given FREE refreshment - don't sound like u come from kampung lah [i'm the one who lives in the kampung `k?] blush.gif

I ask u not to include urself in the leng jai count cause i oredi 'know' u mah !! *doh* So, got any leng jai's or not? Faster tell faster tell... still not too late for me to register tongue.gif

I'm not sure what the Business Computing module consist of but at MBA level, it is important to know that you MUST apply the theories into the practical world, and use examples from it. Answering the question alone without further expanding its use in the practical world will not be suffice for a pass.

It's not true that the theoretical stuff's not important because you will need these to guide you in your answers, be it for exams or assignments hence pay attention especially to the specific theories which you can use and adapt it as part of your answer - with all practical explanations and NO theories to back up your answer, you will also fail the assignment.

Remember, you're taking a postgraduate course and shouldn't be spoon fed. Write down and take down notes you think is important. Things which you aren't too sure of or can't understand, it's ok to ask - you need to know how the theory works in order to put it into use. Memorisation alone is not going to help you.

Jargons such as "Value Chain, 4Ps, PEST(EL)/SWOT Analysis" are Management Jargons. Since Marketing Management is also a subject you're taking this semester, you'll definitely come across the 4Ps introduced by Kotler.

PEST(EL) Analysis is basically the analysis you do to examine the external (things which aren't in your control) influences of the organisation whilst SWOT gives you a better picture of the current situation your organisation is in.

The purpose of the study group is to discuss questions and to brainstorm with each other, other than networking purposes. The study group is also to help with the assignments, and to share ideas. Of course, if you think it's best to study on your own then go ahead but I still suggest you form a group - make sure you keep it to X people - maybe 4-6 at max. And always take turns to have a leader so you won't go out of topic and start chit-chatting.

Good Luck! cool.gif
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007, 01:14 PM)
Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
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Yup....true...MBA in Nottingham will cost 46k...there is another top class MBA in malaysia...offered in Sunway...manchester business school MBA...cost a bomb..bout 80k...require minimum age of 27 and 3 years working experience...for me...datz da top 2 MBA u can ever find in Malaysia...of coz u will hav more choices if u r willing to go sg...
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As much as I can understand the reasoning behind the minimum required age, I think there should be some flexibility on it depending on the individual as long as the rest of the entry requirements are met.

Then again, I'm not looking to pursue an MBA so I better keep my mouth shut rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007, 01:14 PM)
Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
MBAs have their own rankings, which are independent of overall university rankings.

A top ranking university, might not necessarily have a top ranking MBA, although a good overall uni ranking surely doesn't hurt the MBA's prestige at all. The best MBA's are usually conducted by a very independent business school within the university. Some deans of the business schools don't even report to the university's chancellor, but straight to the board of governors.

Best if you check the MBA rankings directly, rather than extrapolate from the university rankings.

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As much as I can understand the reasoning behind the minimum required age, I think there should be some flexibility on it depending on the individual as long as the rest of the entry requirements are met.

Then again, I'm not looking to pursue an MBA so I better keep my mouth shut  rclxms.gif
Yes, there'll definitely be some flexibility. Just the same as being 27 and above doesn't guarantee you a place in the course.

It's just a convenient guideline, not a pre-requisite. It's a MBA, not a driving license. Most 27 year olds will tend to have at least 3-5 years of working experience - which allows them to have something to contribute to the class, and more importantly, have a background on which to compare what they learn during the MBA.

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I made *the* remark only because once upon a time, having met the basic entry requirements to a course I'd wanted to pursue, and even took pains to go through with an interview, I was finally rejected on the basis of "not having met the minimum age requirement" put me off blush.gif

I would have accepted the decision of the university easier if they'd also rejected another applicant who was about 1+ years my senior [who also didn't meet the minimum age requirement criteria]. Ah well, guess some people gauge maturity by age alone, whilst I prefer to gauge it by responsibility, etc.

Oklah, admittedly I was a sore loser then vmad.gif - Er.. i think i'm still a sore loser now, heHEhehehe...... whistling.gif

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Anyone knows if Monash offering MBA at their campus in sunway?...saw their ads in paper that they do offer postgraduate studies.....there will b star education fair tomorrow...will check out all the available courses then...
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Don't think Sunway offers the Monash MBA. They offer the Victoria Uni MBA.

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MBAs have their own rankings, which are independent of overall university rankings.

A top ranking university, might not necessarily have a top ranking MBA, although a good overall uni ranking surely doesn't hurt the MBA's prestige at all. The best MBA's are usually conducted by a very independent business school within the university. Some deans of the business schools don't even report to the university's chancellor, but straight to the board of governors.

Best if you check the MBA rankings directly, rather than extrapolate from the university rankings.
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seantang, you are right. but if you had checked, you might have realized that the Nottingham University Business School also ranks in the Top 100 MBAs worldwide, by Financial Times.

Guys, as for the Manchester MBA, may I know if it bears the Sunway name or if it is identical to the MBA awarded by Manchester BS?
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seantang, you are right. but if you had checked, you might have realized that the Nottingham University Business School also ranks in the Top 100 MBAs worldwide, by Financial Times.

May be, but you should have mentioned that instead. No worries.

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Did someone not mention that Sunway's only offering the VU MBA? Nothing was mentioned about a Manchester MBA, was it?

Then again, I might have not have been paying too close attention, apologies blink.gif
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Did someone not mention that Sunway's only offering the VU MBA?  Nothing was mentioned about a Manchester MBA, was it?

Then again, I might have not have been paying too close attention, apologies  blink.gif
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Yups. Got me facts a lil jumbled up there. Btw, know if they offer the Manchester DBA at Sunway?
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Yups.  Got me facts a lil jumbled up there.  Btw, know if they offer the Manchester DBA at Sunway?
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I heard the Manchester MBA is the most expensive course in Malaysia at above RM100k per pop. I dare not postulate how much the DBA would cost, if indeed they decide to offer it.
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Why don'y youguys j ust show the rankings of the MBA uni? I'm sure it's available in the net. Then you can compare it in terms of price vs performance.
IMHO, generally if the university will simply accept fresh grad, then you should avoid it unless you're just there for the paper degree.
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http://rankings.ft.com/rankings/mba/rankings.html

Ranking of 2006 MBA top Uni from financial times...should be quite reliable...as expected...Wharton make to the top again...

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What about MMU's MBA?


No one mentioned MMU? Hmm
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If I'm not mistaken, I vaguely remember someone saying the MBS MBA at Sunway's about RM80k.

From a pure business standpoint, the DBA serves little purpose. The ROI is just too low sad.gif But ah well, everyone does things for different reasons, right?! *grins*
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tinkerbel,

Thanks for the clarification on the cost of doing the MBS MBA. At 80k, I reckon it is the most expensive MBA in Malaysia at present.

DBA, in my opinion, is fast becoming a laughing stock. Read today's Star and you will notice the advertisement on "upgrade your MBA to a DBA - Uni of Newcastle". Or advertisements somewhere along the lines of "only 2 years to a 'Dr' in front of your name" which appear frequently enough. Utterly disgusting.
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yup sad to hear dat ppl nowadays pursue doctorate degrees just for da sake of da dr. title they'll have in front of their names, not for da additional knowledge which can help them become a better employee or employer.
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You are most right. Something ought to be done to ensure DBA graduates aren't made a fool off. Those ads ought to be communicated in a different manner. As hard sell as they want the ad to be, I personally find those headlines 'disgusting' yawn.gif

Hevrn,
I believe the learning curve at the DBA level's much different from the undergraduate levels. You learn the same theories whether you're doing your BBA, MBA or DBA but the 'thought process' shifts from one level to the next.

I had a few academicians telling me they were pursuing their PHDs only because they *had* to. There wasn't much they could learn which they didn't oredi know [I kinda agree with him - refer to paragraph above]. Then again, I'm *sure* something useful (other than the Dr title) came out of their course.
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hey guyz...how about doing online for MBA programme??Is there any university offering here?well...I just asked my school, Nottingham...they said the requirement is 3 years working experience....I tot can straight away enrol into MBA after finishing my degree...
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hey guyz...how about doing online for MBA programme??Is there any university offering here?well...I just asked my school, Nottingham...they said the requirement is 3 years working experience....I tot can straight away enrol into MBA after finishing my degree...
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You definitely need working experience for a "proper" MBA. All good and reputable business schools require at least 3 years working experience. Working experience to an MBA is like age to wine. The more years to your working experience you have the better candidate you are for an MBA.
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Olympia MBA also not bad. Can consider also biggrin.gif
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I wouldn't recommend an online MBA because the essential part of the course is the interaction (discussions, sharing experiences, etc) with your 'colleagues'.

Unless you're able to have uh, the Uni fix appointed conference times for such interaction, your learning curve from the MBA would reduce dramatically sad.gif
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tinkerbel,

In general, an online MBA is certainly not as wholesome as a classroom-based one. But some online MBAs do have mandatory residentials at their campus. One such MBA is offered by Durham, one of UK's top 10 uni. Their distance learning MBA is quite reknowned and commands great respect amongst employers who know something about education.
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You definitely need working experience for a "proper" MBA. All good and reputable business schools require at least 3 years working experience. Working experience to an MBA is like age to wine. The more years to your working experience you have the better candidate you are for an MBA.
You need 'appropriate' working experience. The best MBAs will want you to be fairly accomplished in your career before they give you a place. Otherwise your education history needs to be quite a bit above average.

No point paying 80K to go to classes with sales execs, accounts execs or IT programmers who've never supervised people or managed a dept /function /business before.
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No point paying 80K to go to classes with sales execs, accounts execs or IT programmers who've never supervised people or managed a dept /function /business before.
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I quite agree with your view. There is just no compelling reason to attend a classroom-based MBA in Malaysia if the main intention is to network with the who's who of the industry. Either the class is too small (I've heard of the Leicester MBA with only 5 participants - what a bore), or it is populated by junior executives (such as the USQ programme by Segi).
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QUOTE(Creamer @ Jan 13 2007, 01:22 PM)
I quite agree with your view.  There is just no compelling reason to attend a classroom-based MBA in Malaysia if the main intention is to network with the who's who of the industry.  Either the class is too small (I've heard of the Leicester MBA with only 5 participants - what a bore), or it is populated by junior executives (such as the USQ programme by Segi).
Not only networking.

It's also the team projects / assignments and discussions. In a class full of inexperienced low level employees with nothing to share, all the activities soon become Q&A sessions. They Q, the more experienced ones A.

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tinkerbel,

In general, an online MBA is certainly not as wholesome as a classroom-based one.  But some online MBAs do have mandatory residentials at their campus.  One such MBA is offered by Durham, one of UK's top 10 uni.  Their distance learning MBA is quite reknowned and commands great respect amongst employers who know something about education.
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do u have the website or contact for Durham University?

QUOTE(Creamer @ Jan 13 2007, 01:22 PM)
I quite agree with your view.  There is just no compelling reason to attend a classroom-based MBA in Malaysia if the main intention is to network with the who's who of the industry.  Either the class is too small (I've heard of the Leicester MBA with only 5 participants - what a bore), or it is populated by junior executives (such as the USQ programme by Segi).
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Anyways, any one of u here taken MBA b4 or not??I need some guide...
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I ado agree with yu but there's a slight difference between Distance Learning and and Online degree isn't it?
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eh guys, in your opinions, is it better doin' p/time MBA at :



1. a local uni (UM, UIAM)

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2. college with overseas twinning programs? (sunway, nottingham)




It would be great if u guys can explain briefly the reasons behind your preferences. Thanks in advance guys smile.gif

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Nottingham is not an overseas twinning program. They have 4 campuses and two of these campuses are overseas. It's taught and managed by Nottingham, not any local institute. The degree awarded is also identical to the degree awarded in UK.

By the way, The Star newspaper reported that an MBA from UK recognized universities automatically gain entry requirement to work in UK under their highly skilled workforce program.
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By the way, The Star newspaper reported that an MBA from UK recognized universities automatically gain entry requirement to work in UK under their highly skilled workforce program.
Only 50 British MBAs on the list. But 50... that's about all the MBAs lah. But only for those who graduated after 2004.

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eh guys, in your opinions, is it better doin' p/time MBA at :
1. a local uni (UM, UIAM)
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2. college with overseas twinning programs? (sunway, nottingham)
It would be great if u guys can explain briefly the reasons behind your preferences. Thanks in advance guys smile.gif
Get the foreign one. Local Us don't have the reputation and name recognition of the foreign Us. It's a sad fact of life.

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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 14 2007, 05:58 PM)
Nottingham is not an overseas twinning program. They have 4 campuses and two of these campuses are overseas. It's taught and managed by Nottingham, not any local institute. The degree awarded is also identical to the degree awarded in UK.

By the way, The Star newspaper reported that an MBA from UK recognized universities automatically gain entry requirement to work in UK under their highly skilled workforce program.
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nottingham ranked number 99 in the top 100 business school for mba....there are a few good universities in singapore...
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tinkerbel,

An online degree is considered a form of distance learning. But the name 'online degree' brings on many negative perceptions as compared to 'distance learning'. To illustrate, the Uni of London is the earliest distance learning course established ('external degree course' to be exact) and is still prestigious now. Although it has enabled web access to it's resources, nobody calls it an 'online degree'.
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Jan 14 2007, 02:31 AM)
do u have the website or contact for Durham University?


Here you go:
dur.ac.uk
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I agree wth Nottingham too. It is the best if you could study in UK for few weeks too.

The fees of Charles Sturt frm Help college is relatively low, just doubt abt the quality.

You can consider local U for the part time course too.

Yeah, did not see for MBA advertisement for quite some time. Dont know if any stories inside.


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nottingham ranked number 99 in the top 100 business school for mba....there are a few good universities in singapore...
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arsenal, you are right. other than INSEAD joint program, which is about Harvard-level quality, the only other uni in Singapore is NUS, which rank 92 of 100...

but then i am talking about Malaysia lor... tongue.gif

u shud consider those 9999 unis which are not even in the list...
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arsenal, you are right. other than INSEAD joint program, which is about Harvard-level quality, the only other uni in Singapore is NUS, which rank 92 of 100...

but then i am talking about Malaysia lor... tongue.gif

u shud consider those 9999 unis which are not even in the list...
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INSEAD? lolz that one so hard to entering u save time go harvard la.

the fee is unbelievable high too. U must studying in both France and Sing
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INSEAD? lolz that one so hard to entering u save time go harvard la.

the fee is unbelievable high too. U must studying in both France and Sing
Ahhhh. Then the question shouldn't be which MBA is good or the best.

The question should be which MBA is good when the student is... well, not so good?

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arsenal, you are right. other than INSEAD joint program, which is about Harvard-level quality, the only other uni in Singapore is NUS, which rank 92 of 100...

but then i am talking about Malaysia lor... tongue.gif

u shud consider those 9999 unis which are not even in the list...
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erm, there is a branch of University of Chicago GSB (ranked among top 5 in the world)in Singapore as well. but you have to be really good and sponsored by company to enter this one.
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Get the foreign one. Local Us don't have the reputation and name recognition of the foreign Us. It's a sad fact of life.
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even MMU ?
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Only 50 British MBAs on the list. But 50... that's about all the MBAs lah. But only for those who graduated after 2004.
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seantang, this is the 2nd time u spoke in this thread without bothering to check ur details. actually, only 10 of the 50 MBAs listed are from UK. wink.gif
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Earlier someone mentioned Australia's AGSM. Perhaps I'm a pure-breed Aussie grad, my preference sways towards AGSM than Nottingham Malaysia hmm.gif
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hey, i've got a noob question to ask. what is the minimum requirement to be eligible to study MBA? MUST it be a business degree?
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X years of work experience will be sufficient to get you into the course. More working experience at X level will be required should you not have a basic degree.

If you oredi have a basic degree, it doesn't matter if that is an Engineering, Architecture or Law degree. A business degree is NOT a prerequisite into an MBA.
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MBA stands for Master in Business Administration
Dont get confuse with Master in Knowledge Management, Master in Physics, Master in Law.
Those are totally different master. Hate people keep asking what I am studying when I already told them it is MBA. MBA in what (stupid question).
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Perhaps when people ask you, they actually wanna know if you're specialising into a specific stream, or just pursuing a general MBA.

Y the frustrations? So, MBA in what?! *grins*
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Anyone doing MBA in MMU?
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 15 2007, 06:01 PM)
seantang, this is the 2nd time u spoke in this thread without bothering to check ur details. actually, only 10 of the 50 MBAs listed are from UK.  wink.gif
This 2nd one, I concede. I mis-read British-approved as British period.

The 1st one... rubbish. I merely pointed out that the Top 100 Unis and Top 100 MBAs are 2 entirely different rankings. You just needed to be more specific.

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Actually, seantang's right. Top Unis and Top MBA's aren't ranked the same. It also depends on who's doing the research and on what basis are they ranked such, etc.
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yeaps there r separate rankings for universities n MBA schools... eg. university of pennyslvania isnt ranked as highly in da top 200 unis as Wharton business school in da top 100 MBAs. fyi, wharton is da university of pennyslvania's lead business school
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I don't need to get into the Top 100 Unis. Just give me a place in ANY uni ! kEKkekeekkekeke doh.gif
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i think u missed the fact that in my very first post, all I said was that nottingham was in the top 100 university list for mba worldwide.

seantang then said i should check mba rankings rather than extrapolate from university listings (which in fact I did not), so I had to correct him by pointing out that nottingham was in both the top 100 universities AND the top 100 universities list FOR MBA, i.e. top 100 MBAs list worldwide.

when i did that, he said i should have been more clear, but i wasn't the one who was making assumptions, eh?
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If i did, apologies. Anyhow, MBA or no MBA, life still goes on smile.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 19 2007, 06:04 PM)
i think u missed the fact that in my very first post, all I said was that nottingham was in the top 100 university list for mba worldwide.
Nope, sorry dude. What you said is below. Read your own stuff again. You said Nottingham's the only uni in all of Malaysia to be in the list of Top 100 unis worldwide... therefore it's MBA is best in Malaysia.

Anyway, cukup lah. You win, ok. I am sorry seantang isn't psychic enough to understand you.

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Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
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so i forgot to add 2 words - top 100 unis worldwide (FOR MBAs) but i thot it was a given since this thread was already titled MBA. nobody asked u to understand, but when u din get my point, u r supposed to ask for clarification instead of going on and on about how it's not the same and how i shouldn't extrapolate blah blah... and then say u r not psychic n cannot read my mind... ya la u r very clever la.

anyway, give it a rest la. what's the big deal la fren... not like the world is going to end...

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Already say you win what... how much more rest can I give it?

You just want the last word, is it? Nah, give you lor. You post one more time, I won't respond. How's that?

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I've no idea but I think basically we're out of topic...........

And, would someone like to define 'media-related' courses for me? My definition of it differs with that of my other peers, as such I would like to seek some opinion here.

Care to light my path? notworthy.gif
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be cool guys...hopefully this topic has brought lotsa useful knowledge to everyone esp as to where's best to study your MBA....well,finally i have made my decision...university of nottingham...wait for me...ill b there next year...hahaha...loans and scholarships...please consider my applications as well...hahaha....
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QUOTE(lucklydiamond @ Jan 20 2007, 11:11 PM)
be cool guys...hopefully this topic has brought lotsa useful knowledge to everyone esp as to where's best to study your MBA....well,finally i have made my decision...university of nottingham...wait for me...ill b there next year...hahaha...loans and scholarships...please consider my applications as well...hahaha....
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How much is the Nottingham U MBA ?
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Its around 45k++........correct me if im wrong.
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yup....tuition fees bout RM46k for a 2 years part time course...study in KL center...not in Semenyih...those who wanna know bout the Victoria Uni MBA offered in Sunway,mayb i can help...
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What other Master programs available at Nottingham Uni, KL?
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The website at Nottingham seems incomplete to me. Meh. I can't find the available degrees/masters over there. Prolly will need a brochure from the campus or something.
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Sesshoumaru,
Perhaps they're updating the site? *shrugs* Oh btw, I know someone who can sell fridges to the eskimos... hehEHEe *grins* While I'm learning to sell shoes to snakes ... smile.gif
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http://www.nottingham.edu.my/faculties/fac_social.html

the link to schools in nottingham KL...
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would like to ask some opinion from you all smile.gif

UPM will have a new intake for MBA student (march intake) - any comment on that programme offered?Quality?Fees?Reliability?

i plan to take it as part time

any comment thanks?

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Any ways that i can view the ranking for world top mba school list..??
thank you..
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QUOTE(IamDaryl @ Jan 11 2007, 04:37 PM)
http://rankings.ft.com/rankings/mba/rankings.html

Ranking of 2006 MBA top Uni from financial times...should be quite reliable...as expected...Wharton make to the top again...
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So back to one question someone asked earlier. How much more money can you make with an MBA in Malaysia? Is it realistic to expect an ROI within 1 year of paying RM100+k for an MBA from an above average school or is working outside Malaysia the only realistic way of doing this?

I would just love to make more money (among other things of course) biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(adrianchai @ Feb 5 2007, 12:07 AM)
would like to ask some opinion from you all smile.gif

UPM will have a new intake for MBA student (march intake) - any comment on that programme offered?Quality?Fees?Reliability?

i plan to take it as part time

any comment thanks?
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there's an executive in my company who graduated with a MBA fr UPM.
her English is atrocious and her quality of work left much to desire.
Quality? i dun tink so. tongue.gif
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huh...she buy the MBA izzit??
how come so terrible?MBA holder with poor skills???
either it is UPM lower standard??

one more question to ask - local uni MBA is better or priv uni MBA better?I mean in terms of quality and standard

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u cant evaluate the quality of an MBA graduate solely from the School he/she studied in... its just like a degree.. sure u can be an Imperial grad but if ur unable to perform in ur work, u'll be regarded lower then say a local uni grad who puts in 100% hard work and initiative
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Dun say like that. UPM's MBA is quite good and is quite established as well.
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QUOTE(Chaned @ Feb 5 2007, 05:31 PM)
Dun say like that. UPM's MBA is quite good and is quite established as well.
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personal thought or backed with solid evidence or recognition? smile.gif

my work-place got a new gurl with UPM MBA, dunno bout her quality of work nor attitude, but at 23, im sure she never had a relevant working exp prior undertaking her MBA.

any decent MBA course would require at least 2 years working exp.


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dats y ppl nowadays tend to rush their MBA's right after obtaining their degrees... they think, "Hey, why dont I study for my masters right after getting my degree? That way I can earn a hell lot more when I come out to work!"... they ignore the fact that working exp is significant in being able to understand and implement whatever has been learnt whilst working into the coursework etc...
i dun plan to get my mba immediately after my degree.. at least gain a couple or more years of workplace exposure
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I'm a soon-to-grad chemical engineering student here in UTM. I was wondering, should i work immediately or pursue my studies in MBA (Master in Business Administration)? I hope to get good advices from u all, esp those who are taking this now...What actually is MBA and how's it? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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There's another thread on MBAs here, check out that discussion.

Personally I think taking an MBA with less than 3-5 years of job experience is pointless. Most business schools won't even take you in if you don't have enough job experience.

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Feb 6 2007, 05:05 PM)
There's another thread on MBAs here, check out that discussion.

Personally I think taking an MBA with less than 3-5 years of job experience is pointless. Most business schools won't even take you in if you don't have enough job experience.
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good MBA programs want a diverse of cultures and work experiences in their students so that the learning experience is richer. so i agree with the suggestion to get work experience before doing your MBA. at least you will have something to share with the class during discussions and projects. no one wants a "theory-based" argument all the time.

in the program i did, the class actually felt that those who didn't have work experience were considerably myopic in their views.
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ihawk98,
I'm sure not *all* students with insufficient working experience were considered 'myopic' in their views... perhaps majority of them but surely there are a handful who were able to contribute? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 6 2007, 10:46 PM)
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I'm sure not *all* students with insufficient working experience were considered 'myopic' in their views... perhaps majority of them but surely there are a handful who were able to contribute?  unsure.gif
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agree as long as they have some work experience. i think it is good for people to work in between their undergrad and MBA years. it really helps both the experience of your fellow MBAs and yourself when you have stuff to share from your previous experience.

try not to go straight from undergrad to MBA immediately...that's all. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ihawk98 @ Feb 7 2007, 09:37 AM)
try not to go straight from undergrad to MBA immediately...that's all. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Creamer @ Feb 7 2007, 10:33 AM)
How about people who have no undergrad degrees but go straight for their MBAs?
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this is a good one. if the person went through "the school of hard knocks" (meaning they've got long work experience after high school or diploma etc) and have loads of work experience to share, i would think they would be welcomed in a program once they qualify.

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The point here is that it is important be able to share your work experience and knowledge accumulated through the years with other classmates. To share is to care, to care is to teach and to teach is to learn rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ihawk98 @ Feb 7 2007, 10:50 AM)
this is a good one.  if the person went through "the school of hard knocks" (meaning they've got long work experience after high school or diploma etc) and have loads of work experience to share, i would think they would be welcomed in a program once they qualify.
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Most universities welcome those without degrees but graduate from school of hard knocks. Most universities will require 5-10 years work experience at managerial level, plus a written essay to accept them into the MBA.

The fresh grads will have tonnes to learn from these people.
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Harvard accepts fresh grads with no experience into their MBA programme.

But i personally think that it's best to get a job and work for the next 3-5 years before one does his or her MBA.

I only begin to appreciate the theories which i learnt in my MBA 5 years ago....recently! Phrases like leadership, trust and empowerment, which are MBA buzzwords only takes a true meaning today...after 13 years on the job.
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ky_khor,
You shouldn't find it difficult to get into an MBA course with working experience. Obviously if one has a minimum of 3 years at Middle Management, he shouldn't have problems getting into an MBA.


PS: 3 years work experience at Middle Management, would translate to probably an estimated of total 5-6 years of work experience.
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Teong,

'Leadership', 'Empowerment', 'Delegation' aren't MBA buzzwords - they're just more applicable in the Management level smile.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 7 2007, 12:50 PM)

'Leadership', 'Empowerment', 'Delegation' aren't MBA buzzwords - they're just more applicable in the Management level smile.gif
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this brings back memories....MBA buzzwords such as "value chain", "core competencies", "paradigm shift". "key takeaway".... rclxub.gif tongue.gif

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"key takeaway"? Er.. I must have been sleeping or perhaps it's just not part of MY syllabus! kEKekekke... Then again, i specialised in the areas of Strategic Marketing, so throw Marketing jargons at me instead, please tongue.gif But right now, I want a "meal takeaway"..

..Anyone care to join me for lunch? *g* whistling.gif
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University of Nottingham is the best for MBA
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QUOTE(mamak @ Feb 7 2007, 07:59 PM)
University of Nottingham is the best for MBA
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QUOTE(mamak @ Feb 7 2007, 07:59 PM)
University of Nottingham is the best for MBA
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u mean locally right? anyways i saw an ad on the papers a few days ago about the University of Strathclyde's MBA being offered here... how does a Scottish MBA compare to a UK one?
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Feb 7 2007, 11:23 PM)
u mean locally right? anyways i saw an ad on the papers a few days ago about the University of Strathclyde's MBA being offered here... how does a Scottish MBA compare to a UK one?
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even for local, dun think its the best.

Heard sunway offered Manchester Business School MBA, cost 80k. Ranking wise, its way better than Notts Uni.


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even for local, dun think its the best.

Heard sunway offered Manchester Business School MBA, cost 80k. Ranking wise, its way better than Notts Uni.
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Does the Manchester MBA offered by Sunway award an identical Manchester MBA degree cert as the original (no 'foreign partnership', no Sunway logo?) ? and taught by the original Manchester MBA staff?
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wow....didnt know this thread so many replies already....will try to come here more often and answer questions........since i am already an MBA student.....heheh
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QUOTE(Pai @ Feb 6 2007, 12:09 AM)
personal thought or backed with solid evidence or recognition? smile.gif

my work-place got a new gurl with UPM MBA, dunno bout her quality of work nor attitude, but at 23, im sure she never had a relevant working exp prior undertaking her MBA.

any decent MBA course would require at least 2 years working exp.
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haha.. after working together with the UPM-MBA executive in my company,
i hav solid evidence dat da UPM MBA quality is not so good.
She's doing the tendering for our company and so far, we have not won any.
She can't differentiate between noun and verb.
She does not request for quotations when doing budgets but quote a price based on her 'common sense' which is often way off mark.
Her idea of marketing is website and brochure...
.. and quite a few more laughable examples.
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QUOTE(xingal @ Feb 8 2007, 09:39 AM)
haha.. after working together with the UPM-MBA executive in my company,
i hav solid evidence dat da UPM MBA quality is not so good.
She's doing the tendering for our company and so far, we have not won any.
She can't differentiate between noun and verb.
She does not request for quotations when doing budgets but quote a price based on her 'common sense' which is often way off mark.
Her idea of marketing is website and brochure...
.. and quite a few more laughable examples.
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one example, and you came up with such conclusion?

Disgusting.
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A good MBA shouldn't be judged by their rankings. You need to look at course structure, facilitator and most importantly, the person who's pursuing it. Also, it makes a lot of difference when you use your MBA learnings at the workplace - most people just don't.

There are just too many lazy people around *sigh* Or perhaps they just lack commitment?
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For those contemplating doing an MBA, do some research like checking out the courses available (newspaper advertisements, education directories, online MBA sites), calling up some institutions to have deeper insight, and very importantly, whether you are willing to pay the price (both RM and time). If any of these institutions don't fulfill your criteria e.g. time, cost and quality....strike them off your list. And once you've decided, GO FOR IT!

Doing an MBA is not a life and death decision. Barriers of entry to an MBA course is almost negligible. What matters is whether you have one...like everybody else. (said tongue in cheek la).

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Creamer,
With or without an MBA, the world still goes on. At the end of the day, learning is lifelong, and the MBA among other things shows ur future employer the dedication and commitment you have. Whether you're able to utilise the learnings of your MBA is a different matter altogether.

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At the end of the day, learning is lifelong, and the MBA among other things shows ur future employer the dedication and commitment you have

Support!!!~
Getting an MBA is so common nowadays... it is the pleasure of learning that one must enjoy!! Anyone knows how much is the pay now for a fresh MBA graduate??
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rockzerox,
Fresh as in with NO work experience whatsoever? It'll be the same as a fresh undergrad graduate if u asked me, possibly between 1.8-2k.

I enjoy learning, but i don't enjoy the Academic parts to it, so how ah?! sad.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 8 2007, 02:33 PM)
Creamer,
With or without an MBA, the world still goes on.  At the end of the day, learning is lifelong, and the MBA among other things shows ur future employer the dedication and commitment you have.  Whether you're able to utilise the learnings of your MBA is a different matter altogether.
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Indeed. I feel there is no point contemplating hard about whether UPM is better than MMU, or if Nottingham is better than Strathclyde. So long as the institution is a respectable one, one shouldn't be perpetually questioning if this MBA is better than the one next door. The prospective MBA candidate should just do his due dilligence and execute the decision. If one can't even take this step, I personally feel he should not even qualify to embark on a masters-level programme.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Feb 8 2007, 11:27 AM)
one example, and you came up with such conclusion?

Disgusting.
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QUOTE(Creamer @ Feb 8 2007, 02:53 PM)
Indeed.  I feel there is no point contemplating hard about whether UPM is better than MMU, or if Nottingham is better than Strathclyde.  So long as the institution is a respectable one, one shouldn't be perpetually questioning if this MBA is better than the one next door.
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Unless we are talking about the top 50 MBA skools, there wont be much diff between other Uni's outside of the top 50.
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Fresh as in with NO work experience whatsoever? It'll be the same as a fresh undergrad graduate if u asked me, possibly between 1.8-2k.


Thanks Tinkerbel. Sorry tat my question is kinda misleading or incomplete. But u gave me the idea of how much a fresh grad without working experience will get. How bout those who have two years working exprience prior to taking MBA?? How much companies usually pay for these guys/girls after they graduate from MBA??

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is depend how u seek the job.....if u enter MMC company the pay will be different....my fren able to get 4k fresh MBA grad with no working experience...but me onli 2.5k..... is all how u look for the job and how u carry urself during the interview...if u get Master qualification try applied at intel, microsoft, agilent or other MMC company,,thier pay quite high...
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Does the Manchester MBA offered by Sunway award an identical Manchester MBA degree cert as the original (no 'foreign partnership', no Sunway logo?) ? and taught by the original Manchester MBA staff?
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Pai, do you know the answer to the above?
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I'm of the opinion that a person's salary is justified based on his responsibilities and commitment level at work. You may be a fresh MBA grad with 2 years of working experience (which btw, is rather minimal work experience if u asked me) who starts of earning RM2.3k and within the next 6 months, if your performance shows you're capable of handling bigger tasks and responsibilities, your salary will then be automatically adjusted upwards.

Another problem with 'fresh' MBA holders today think just because they've got an MBA in hand, they're better than their colleagues with 15 years of experience. Initially, there's still lots to learn from them so don't see urself as someone superior to them smile.gif
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Feb 10 2007, 10:21 AM)
Pai, do you know the answer to the above?
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too pricey for me, so never othered asking further. tongue.gif
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nope.

too pricey for me, so never othered asking further. tongue.gif
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oic, i thot u knew coz u said it was the best MBA to take in Malaysia... wink.gif

coz, if the degree awarded is not the same and it's not taught by the original uni staff, then the original uni's ranking and accolades are not relevant at all. it will end up a Sunway degree, which is worth little.
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Feb 10 2007, 01:18 PM)
oic, i thot u knew coz u said it was the best MBA to take in Malaysia... wink.gif

coz, if the degree awarded is not the same and it's not taught by the original uni staff, then the original uni's ranking and accolades are not relevant at all. it will end up a Sunway degree, which is worth little.
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same like Malaysia's Nottingham Uni?

Correct me if im wrong, the staff are mostly malaysian right? But they use Nottingham UK's achievement in their ads.
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dats wat u get with most 3+0 programmes anyway... u get local lecturers teaching the same curiculla as those taught overseas... however their quality is monitored to ensure that they r in accordance wit the exact programme offered overseas...
however at the end of the day, the cert counts for nothing if u dun know how to implement wat u've learnt into the workplace...
i think i read sumwhere dat the manchester uni mba offered in sunway is a distant learning programme so shldn't the cert given be the same as those from the uk?
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QUOTE(Pai @ Feb 10 2007, 03:49 PM)
same like Malaysia's Nottingham Uni?

Correct me if im wrong, the staff are mostly malaysian right? But they use Nottingham UK's achievement in their ads.
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allow me to correct you. it is run entirely by Nottingham staff, regardless if it's hired locally or seconded from UK (yes, some are). the course syllabus and teaching is the same, and the marking is also done a 2nd time by UK.

the degree awarded is identical to the UK because it is not a joint program with any local college or company, it is just another Nottingham campus located in Malaysia, so what's wrong with using Nottingham Uni's credentials in their ads?

you can refer here for more info:
http://educationmalaysia.blogspot.com/2005...m-malaysia.html

or check the Nottingham uni thread in Lowyat.net , in fact a pharmacy student in the Malaysian campus was top student last year, beating those in the UK campus.
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allow me to correct you. it is run entirely by Nottingham staff, regardless if it's hired locally or seconded from UK (yes, some are). the course syllabus and teaching is the same, and the marking is also done a 2nd time by UK.

the degree awarded is identical to the UK because it is not a joint program with any local college or company, it is just another Nottingham campus located in Malaysia, so what's wrong with using Nottingham Uni's credentials in their ads?

you can refer here for more info:
http://educationmalaysia.blogspot.com/2005...m-malaysia.html

or check the Nottingham uni thread in Lowyat.net , in fact a pharmacy student in the Malaysian campus was top student last year, beating those in the UK campus.
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Would it not be easier for those wanting to pursue the Manchester MBA just give them a call to get information? Also, even for those who's not interested, if you wanna know, just call Sunway and disturb them...

I'll give them a call if I wasn't sooOo bz at work - then again, I wonder, would their first question to me be similar to something like "the MBA costs RM90k (or whatever that figure is)"..... in other words, If u can't afford it, don't waste our time answering ur question... I got that before in the past! doh.gif
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dude, u from Nottingham Uni?
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I'll give them a call if I wasn't sooOo bz at work - then again, I wonder, would their first question to me be similar to something like "the MBA costs RM90k (or whatever that figure is)"..... in other words, If u can't afford it, don't waste our time answering ur question... I got that before in the past!  doh.gif
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Excuse my language but that's that's the most f***ed up attitude I've heard of from a place, and if it were from Nottingham/Manchester/etc I would complain to the management and make sure it gets noticed. Their job is to answer the phone so do their jobs properly already. Aside from certain demographics, anyone and everyone could be a potential customer.

It's sad but I see this everywhere in Malaysia. Do we have a caste system now that we have to look down on other people? mad.gif

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Would it not be easier for those wanting to pursue the Manchester MBA just give them a call to get information?  Also, even for those who's not interested, if you wanna know, just call Sunway and disturb them...

I'll give them a call if I wasn't sooOo bz at work - then again, I wonder, would their first question to me be similar to something like "the MBA costs RM90k (or whatever that figure is)"..... in other words, If u can't afford it, don't waste our time answering ur question... I got that before in the past!  doh.gif
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tinkerbel just said IF la... but IF they reply that way, it may be because they know from experience most ppl will be put off by the cost and won't pursue any further. no point talking for hours then only say the cost and immediately lose the prospect after that.
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tishaban,
You sound so worked up! And that didn't even happen to you but well, truth is what I related above did really happen, though it wasn't with the Manchester MBA. About 7 years ago when I was looking to pursue my MBA, I called up a local institution who was handling one of the more recognised UK MBA only to be told off that if I didn't have RM45k, there was no point in speaking to them.

Admittedly, I felt it was totally uncalled for and unprofessional but ah well, life is such; even for educated people. In fact, about a year and a half ago I walked into Hour Glass to buy my a gift for mom and was looking at some watches only to be snubbed off by the store manager. It was only because his assistant gave me great service I bought the watch from them - and I stipulated to ensure the sales commission went to everyone else in the shop but the store manager himself *grins* tongue.gif He was lucky I was in a good mood otherwise I would've written an official complaint letter straight to HQ blush.gif

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Maybe I'll call Sunway and check and then I'll let u people know IF the same thing happened again blink.gif
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tishaban,
You sound so worked up!  And that didn't even happen to you but well, truth is what I related above did really happen, though it wasn't with the Manchester MBA. 
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Haha, I guess I just love to complain when I know I'm within my rights. And the sort of attitude you mentioned is one of my favorites. You don't have to get angry about it, just make sure you talk to right people. For example I got a free sushi buffet dinner at Putrajaya Marriot last Saturday night after complaining to the manager about some stuff biggrin.gif

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I will make noise when it's necessary. And when I do make noise, it can become quite a big deal *grins* Guess we're pretty similar in some ways huh? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Feb 12 2007, 06:13 PM)
r u from Manchester/Sunway Uni just because u said it's the best? no right? wink.gif
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am obviously not. Thought since u knew in depth regarding Nott's MBA program, maybe u were/still doin' ur MBA in Notts.

well, my mistake for assuming its probaly the best MBA offered in M'sia due to MBS's current MBA ranking and the fee's charged . tongue.gif

Which brings us back to the question, how do you know which MBA program offer the best learning program & business exposure(practicality) locally? Am thinking of doin' my MBA but undecided on whether should I go for Local Uni's or joint program with overseas uni's under colleges(Sunway or Segi)?

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The quality of their facilitators and course structure should be able to give you a rough idea... tongue.gif Also, good to you may mean lousy to others hence at the end of the day it really boils down to how and what you're going to learn throughout the duration of your course biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 13 2007, 10:40 AM)
The quality of their facilitators and course structure should be able to give you a rough idea...  tongue.gif  Also, good to you may mean lousy to others hence at the end of the day it really boils down to how and what you're going to learn throughout the duration of your course  biggrin.gif
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how to determine the quality of their respective facilitators b4 u take on the program? hmm.gif
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Good question. Do places allow you to audit a course? Sit in a few classes maybe to see the quality of their classes?

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By talking and getting to know the facilitators u be able to tell whether they've got 'substance'... Yes, some schools would allow you to sit in on a class before you decide to pursue your studies with them.

Btw, I called Sunway College up to get some information on the Manchester MBA but well, they couldn't even put me through to the right people. Gave up and decided to just get back to work hence didn't make a 2nd attempt. Am looking through some other courses now instead biggrin.gif
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thanks Tinkerbel and StevenLee for the info.
i heard that if finish MBA program and work overseas, it will be easier to get a job back in Malaysia.
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You may decide not to want to come back after u've worked overseas *shrugs*. I wouldn't be surprised if your pay be higher because you would have accumulated some experience after your MBA and not come in as a fresh MBA with no working experience.

The one thing bad is you will have to start networking with the local again. Then again, it very much depends on the industry you're in. Mine's very much local
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trying to get work experience before coming back here is a good thing. if you have a chance to do it (whether after MBA or undergrad or any Masters), perhaps you should consider it. some companies here would value your exposure overseas.
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You may decide not to want to come back after u've worked overseas *shrugs*.  I wouldn't be surprised if your pay be higher because you would have accumulated some experience after your MBA and not come in as a fresh MBA with no working experience.
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Returning after working overseas can be hard. Adjusting to less money, different lifestyle, driving in KL/PJ biggrin.gif and simply having a different standard of living.

I know a few people who did it and I truly respect their dedication to their family/country/whatever that made them come back from greener pastures.

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The grass is *ALWAYS* greener on the other side.... that's if we're standing on this side smile.gif
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I know a few people who did it and I truly respect their dedication to their family/country/whatever that made them come back from greener pastures.
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bro, at the end of the day, its just the matter of each person' own perspective. smile.gif

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The grass is *ALWAYS* greener on the other side.... that's if we're standing on this side  smile.gif
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Tishaban,
Is it always greener on the side we're NOT standing on?! smile.gif
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one solution to the grass greener syndrome is to keep jumping to the greener pastures.... icon_rolleyes.gif

my wife and i did just that. we've worked in the US, Singapore, Thailand and now Malaysia.

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Is it always greener on the side we're NOT standing on?!  smile.gif
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You could try the University of southern queensland mba offered at segi subang. Got quite a few contacts who studied there. It's popular with young executives and managers and the quality is good, compared to those offered at other private colleges.

The one at UM is also pretty good but leans towards more theory. You can take it at their regional office in KL city.
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Overall student profiles are pretty good in their MBA programme. The programmes are great !

But the administrative staff are pretty lousy ley.........they have lost my friend result transcript and other relevant academic documents. So she has to re-submit again. And EFP withdrawal also have to wait quite sometimes baru dapat, almost 4 months...... vmad.gif

I think SEGi need to improve this area....
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For those pursuing the SeGi MBA, beware and ensure you file everything - you wouldn't want to end up not being able to graduate just because of poor admin, as what autumnchild shared.

tishaban,
Let's try making it greener on this side? cool2.gif

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is the MBA just the study of adminstration or can major in other business subjects??
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wkf, they don't call it a "major" but a "concentration" in certain business areas. so yes, you can take the majority of electives to graduate with a concentration in marketing, finance, etc etc...


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It's called Specialisation, not concentration  smile.gif
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we refers to what? American or British? rclxub.gif
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we refers to what?  American or British?  rclxub.gif
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Okies dokies...... Mine's called Major for undergraduate courses and for postgraduate courses, specialisation biggrin.gif
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Hmm, wanna ask regarding MBA. I have a friend who graduated in Graphic Design (Diploma). He told me that he is pursuing MBA, but how can that be possible, since both are totally different courses. Can huh?

What is the fees like if do MBA locally and in overseas?
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Hmm, wanna ask regarding MBA. I have a friend who graduated in Graphic Design (Diploma). He told me that he is pursuing MBA, but how can that be possible, since both are totally different courses. Can huh?

What is the fees like if do MBA locally and in overseas?
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You can only take master if you have degree and it must be honors degree with at least 2nd class upper. Diploma is not possible wink.gif

It is wise to have at least 2 years of working experience before taking MBA.

I will be taking MBA or MSC or MIT in a year or two.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Feb 23 2007, 12:01 AM)
Hmm, wanna ask regarding MBA. I have a friend who graduated in Graphic Design (Diploma). He told me that he is pursuing MBA, but how can that be possible, since both are totally different courses. Can huh?

What is the fees like if do MBA locally and in overseas?
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asmly14 already mentioned about the need for a degree.

However yes, you can take an MBA no matter what your original degree is in. What is important typically is your work experience, and depending on the university, your GMAT score.

The cost varies significantly. A local university might charge RM20+k but a Harvard or Columbia MBA will cost you US$120k or even more.

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Those without any undergraduate qualifications but with at least minimal X years of work experience in a Mid to Sr Management position will also qualify to take up an MBA.

tishaban,
The Manchester MBA which was brought up earlier in this thread (or perhaps some other thread) apparently costs RM90k. Tried checking with Sunway College some time last week but they put me on hold for far too long, I lost patience shakehead.gif
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90k for master? That will be one of the most expensive masters in Malaysia market.
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i am thinking of taking up MBA, prolly in local University

but if I take up MBA, i will have to resign from my job.. do you guys think it is a good move?
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I can't confirm the actual cost of the Manchester MBA yah? nod.gif

vkeong,
If you've the funds and the ambition, I don't see why you shouldn't biggrin.gif
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i am thinking of taking up MBA, prolly in local University

but if I take up MBA, i will have to resign from my job.. do you guys think it is a good move?
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There were some notes around here about the local MBA programs not being so great. I don't have personal experience, but what I expect from an MBA is to learn from peers who have had a significant enough amount of work experience that they can contribute to the discussion and classes. Friends who have experience say that local universities aren't the best in this area unfortunately.

Resigning is definitely an option, although much more expensive biggrin.gif They do have part time studies you know...


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QUOTE(vkeong @ Feb 23 2007, 01:51 PM)
i am thinking of taking up MBA, prolly in local University

but if I take up MBA, i will have to resign from my job.. do you guys think it is a good move?
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only you can decide for yourself what is best in your situation. i know that i don't have the discipline to do the MBA part time, working in the week and spending weekends in class and project work. it is an opportunity cost indeed.

i decided to resign and pursued my MBA overseas full time. after that, i took a job in the US which helped shorten my payback period.
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QUOTE(vkeong @ Feb 23 2007, 01:51 PM)
i am thinking of taking up MBA, prolly in local University

but if I take up MBA, i will have to resign from my job.. do you guys think it is a good move?
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I am not sure how many years of working experience you have. If you have substantial working experience, more than 3-5 years, it might be worth considering to resign and pursue your MBA. But if your working experience is only 1-2 years, you resign and get an MBA, your MBA will not be very valuable because of your lack of working experience. If you have just worked on and studied part time, you would have added on your working experience.

I have heard of MBA graduate without much working experience who is nothing but mere theory expert who cannot apply what he learnt to his working life.

You decide whether you should resign or not. If you are comfortable with the working experience that you have, and you have the money to support yourself through the MBA, then you might want to consider resigning. But in my view, if you are able complete your MBA part time, you have just proven yourself to your employer that you are able to cope with stress and heavy workload.



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tishaban,
Your pals have got very valid points. Even if you get into a good MBA, if u do not have peers interacting with you, you'll definitely lose out. Part of the MBA experience is to network and learn from other peers from the many different industries - remember the theory of u learn more when u teach? Or, the theory of sharing is caring? biggrin.gif

Chronox,
I think there are more stress than working f/time and studying p/time..... but well, it sure is something worth respecting rclxms.gif
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Yo dudes, thanks for the feedbacks.

Another question, is MBA a full time course or? If it's full time, can one choose to do part time?

2nd class degree <--- They see your CGPA rating yeah. I have not done my Degree yet, so I have no clue about this. What is the CGPA rate should a person get to achieve 2nd class degree?

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 22 2007, 08:56 PM)
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Okies dokies...... Mine's called Major for undergraduate courses and for postgraduate courses, specialisation  biggrin.gif
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You can pursue an MBA full time or part time. Obviously, doing in part time will take longer than doing it full time but if you're working throughout that duration, you will benefit from the additional working experience you've gathered; on the other hand, if you pursue it full time, you would have the additional benefit of completing the MBA within a shorter time frame smile.gif

Since ur not done with your degree, u should concentrate on getting ur degree now and if possible, you should try to graduate with 1st Class Honours or graduate with Distinction if you can smile.gif No point looking too far ahead for your MBA now...

Good Luck ! smile.gif biggrin.gif
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aduh..I got 3rd class.....is there any possibility for me to further study into MBA after few years working experience??
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 27 2007, 05:52 PM)
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SEGi webiste don't have much info on MBAs... or am I looking at the wrong places...

want to start in 2008....start collect money now...

any MBA got easy payment plan ?
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Contact SeGi for detailed information on the course. You can also check with them on the different payment schemes most colleges offer on their courses.
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Feb 27 2007, 05:50 PM)
aduh..I got 3rd class.....is there any possibility for me to further study into MBA after few years working experience??
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Depends on which MBA. Most MBAs available in this country will take you in provided you have the requisite work experience (most demand at least 2 years at managerial level).


Added on February 28, 2007, 7:42 pm
QUOTE(thechallenger @ Feb 28 2007, 09:47 AM)
SEGi webiste don't have much info on MBAs... or am I looking at the wrong places...

want to start in 2008....start collect money now...

any MBA got easy payment plan ?
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Just enquiried about the segi MBA. Am completing my engineering degree there. Was told the 2 MBAs offered by segi - USQ mba and the sunderland one - have just gotten lan approval. May not have updated their website yet.

Yes, they do have easy payment plans that stretches over 2 1/2 years.

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I am doing MBA in Segi as well. What i can said about it iseven the uni is not that established compared to some of the uni but the good thing about the course is really very flexible. This means that u still can have some personal time for yourself when you are working and studying compare to others programs.
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What do you mean by the Uni isn't too established?
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what i mean here...
the ranking is not that good compared to others Uni that offer MBA in Malaysia..
but overall the course is ok especially in part 2...


Added on March 5, 2007, 11:20 amwhat i mean here...
the ranking is not that good compared to others Uni that offer MBA in Malaysia..
but overall the course is ok especially in part 2...


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Most MBAs offered under franchise with local colleges in malaysia are not ranked 5 stars overall by the australian good guides. They manage 5-stars only categories such as graduate starting salary (not relevant to malaysians) or learning experience (irrelevant to those studying in Malaysia).

USQ compares rather favourable as compared to universities such as Southern Cross & Ballarat Uni....which many employers will not even consider.

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QUOTE(bryon @ Jan 1 2007, 02:06 PM)
err...how about oum's mba
nobody ever heard of it b4?
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i'm now a MBA student of OUM. we have classes on sat and sun. the cost is not too high, the whole cost is RM21490.00. There are 5 specialisation; HR, marketing, economics development, entrepreneurship, finance plus general management.

you could check out more from the webiste --> http://cgs.oum.edu.my/index.php?op=view_p&m=6&lm=6&page=13


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QUOTE(Teong @ Feb 28 2007, 07:39 PM)
Depends on which MBA. Most MBAs available in this country will take you in provided you have the requisite work experience (most demand at least 2 years at managerial level).


Added on February 28, 2007, 7:42 pm

Just enquiried about the segi MBA. Am completing my engineering degree there. Was told the 2 MBAs offered by segi - USQ mba and the sunderland one - have just gotten lan approval. May not have updated their website yet.

Yes, they do have easy payment plans that stretches over 2 1/2 years.
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hiee, i've enquired before too. they have installment scheme. payment is split into 3 payments. For each semester, 1st payment is 940; 2nd is 800 & 3rd is 800.


Added on March 7, 2007, 7:35 pmhi all,

i've done research on all the mba's. need any help? drop your questions ya.....

cheerio....

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Would you have information on other Masters programme say related to PR/Marketing/Arts/Media - anything, besides MBA?
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Can i know is ther any ranking of MBA worldwide..??
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Can i know is ther any ranking of MBA worldwide..??
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Ya...remember Businessweek publishes an issue of the best MBAs in the states and the worldwide each year.

AsiaInc does publish one too. Can't remember which issue, though.

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Can i know is ther any ranking of MBA worldwide..??
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Here are some of the rankings:

Financial Times MBA Rankings

BusinessWeek MBA Rankings

USNews.com MBA Rankings

Foreign MBA.com Rankings
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Is that only have discussion in MBA? What type of training/course provided by MBA? It's different than other course instead of reading text book and doing assignment?
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Love^GM,
MBA is not a training/education provider. MBA here is referring to the Masters of Business Administration course.
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QUOTE(Love^GM @ Mar 10 2007, 10:53 PM)
Is that only have discussion in MBA? What type of training/course provided by MBA? It's different than other course instead of reading text book and doing assignment?
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for every subject or elective in the MBA program, it should consist of some theories (text books may be needed), team project work analyzing lots of business cases and maybe even a current "real world" project (it depends on how connected the MBA program is to actual companies).

i remembered i had loads of reading to do most nights of the week and also had to schedule team meetings to discuss and work through the business cases.
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But ... i've only 1 year + working experiance with my Degree. As i've heard, it's best recommended to have 2 years + else it's pointless for you to enroll in MBA.
I'm trying to understand this, is it necessary to have 2 years + else u having difficulty in MBA due to lack of business logic knowledge? MBA doesn't based on your knowledge but is experiance?
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QUOTE(jtll07 @ Mar 7 2007, 07:27 PM)
i'm now a MBA student of OUM. we have classes on sat and sun. the cost is not too high, the whole cost is RM21490.00. There are 5 specialisation; HR, marketing, economics development, entrepreneurship, finance plus general management.

you could check out more from the webiste --> http://cgs.oum.edu.my/index.php?op=view_p&m=6&lm=6&page=13

thanks.finally found someone studying mba at oum
how would you rate the course(overall), course material, lecturer, environment?
or maybe you just can tell us your experience while studying there?
thanks
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Would you have information on other Masters programme say related to PR/Marketing/Arts/Media - anything, besides MBA?
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Can check out the Master in MassComm offered by UniSA at KDU.
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QUOTE(Love^GM @ Mar 11 2007, 04:22 PM)
But ... i've only 1 year + working experiance with my Degree. As i've heard, it's best recommended to have 2 years + else it's pointless for you to enroll in MBA.
I'm trying to understand this, is it necessary to have 2 years + else u having difficulty in MBA due to lack of business logic knowledge? MBA doesn't based on your knowledge but is experiance?
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The best MBAs are those where the professors are just facilitators and the students participate in active discussion depending on the topic/subject being discussed.

So if you only have very few years of work experience, have never managed people before and have never dealt with high risk/high value projects, it's going to be difficult to contribute to the active discussion going on.

That's why you need some real work experience. A good MBA should not be purely academic or theoretical, it is experience guided by theoretical/proven methods.


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@Teong,
Have checked the course out previously - not too bad for practitioners, though I feel their course structure might be a little uhm.... less suitable for those oredi in the Advertising/Communications industry.

UniSA does offer DComm but it's not offered here in MY and I've no intentions of leaving to Adelaide to pursue the course. Am looking out for another one similar to this but otherwise, have kept this one in hand. You've come across any others?
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seantang, this is the 2nd time u spoke in this thread without bothering to check ur details. actually, only 10 of the 50 MBAs listed are from UK.  wink.gif
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Elmofudd, you first quoted that The Star newspaper reported that an MBA from UK recognized universities automatically gain entry requirement to work in UK under their highly skilled workforce program. Do you know where I can surf for that kind of information (the web address in The Star Online and also other websites), and care to share the name of the above-mentioned UK unis offering the MBAs? do include the non-UK ones biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(luigee @ Mar 21 2007, 11:24 AM)
Elmofudd, you first quoted that The Star newspaper reported that an MBA from UK recognized universities automatically gain entry requirement to work in UK under their highly skilled workforce program. Do you know where I can surf for that kind of information (the web address in The Star Online and also other websites), and care to share the name of the above-mentioned UK unis offering the MBAs? do include the non-UK ones biggrin.gif
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http://www.hsmp-services.co.uk/hsmp_mba_uni_list.html

http://www.skillclear.co.uk/hsmp-mba-provision.asp



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nottingham and monash would be great choices for mba
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Yup...both are good unis...but as far as i know...monash are not offering MBA in malaysia...so the best will still be nottingham...
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guys, which uni do u think has the best MBA student base?( minimum 3 years working exp and preferably working in MNCs)

since there no really good MBA course in M'sia at this moment, might as well pick one that has good peers smile.gif
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Been trying to contact Alice from Sunway College about that damned Manchester Business School MBA but she's never in. Or she's out for lunch and she's not coming back. Idiots should really have someone else that has information about the MBA instead of a person that's never there to answer enquiries. Anyway, I think the MBA is about RM60k+

Regarding the Nottingham MBA, it's RM46k and they have a center in KL too. Not too bad, but it's still rather expensive.

The Strathclyde MBA is also close. Quite expensive at RM49k with a RM3k discount if you register for it now or something.

Any others I should be looking at right now?

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QUOTE(refnulf @ Apr 30 2007, 09:21 PM)
Been trying to contact Alice from Sunway College about that damned Manchester Business School MBA but she's never in. Or she's out for lunch and she's not coming back. Idiots should really have someone else that has information about the MBA instead of a person that's never there to answer enquiries. Anyway, I think the MBA is about RM60k+

Regarding the Nottingham MBA, it's RM46k and they have a center in KL too. Not too bad, but it's still rather expensive.

The Strathclyde MBA is also close. Quite expensive at RM49k with a RM3k discount if you register for it now or something.

Any others I should be looking at right now?
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refnulf, u planning to go for MBA? Why limit your options to Stratchclyde or Nottingham?
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@refnulf,
Good luck in contacting Sunway re their MBS MBA - I called till it frustrated me! And, someone mentioned it's RM90k. When u finally get in touch with Alice, would you please get details of total tuition fee & duration of course for part time studies and let me know, please? *g*

I'm also almost at wits end contacting Nottingham Uni but that was probably cause of the long weekend - i'll try again and if i can't get them I'll just take the figures you put here as a budget. RM50k should be sufficient for both Nottingham or Strathclyde I suppose...

Btw, why do you say the Strathclyde's MBA is quite expensive @ RM49k when Nottingham's MBA's @ RM46k. Between the two, it's just a difference of RM3k, isn't it? blush.gif

@Pai,
It looks like refnulf's looking at MBAs awarded by the UK universities. It's just a matter of preference, and well, to some extend, the 'social recognition' of the Uni is also pretty important and the 2 or 3 he's shortlisted seems befitting.

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i enrolled in with SEGI's MBA....from University of South Queensland.....

Class starts next saturday.....part time course.....
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u also can register and post any data for sharing..
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refnulf,
There's a 25% bursary for those who are enrolling in the MBS MBA for the upcoming intake. Total course fee's RM75k (after the 25% bursary).

I guess luck was on my side when I called about 2 days ago. In fact, Alice was kind enough to email over some information - PM me if you'll like me to redirect those information to you, or if you'll like to have her direct email contact - please leave email address so I can just mail it directly to u. biggrin.gif

Or, anyone else who wants the info on the MBS MBA - I haven't gone through it so don't ask me what's in those attachments/documents she sent over ! *grins* Head of MBS MBA is a Dr Marie - Alice is her assistant, and gatekeeper I suppose *grins*
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wana pursue an MBA...i had been surveying at HELP, sunway, UM & SEGI...im planning to take out EPF.IM planning to pursue at SEGI due to its cheaper..somehow HELP & sunway is abt RM30-35k...SEGI is only abt 27-29K...USQ....but my concern will i be hard to cope with MBA wich im planning to take part time....im graduate in degree in Eng. & working abt 5 years & now im 26 years old...my experience working is 2year plus in production line & 2 years in project management....all the while i was in engineer position...

my worries is will i have dificulties to cope with MBA...like the subject marketing,finance, etc...whereby im a engineering background...my colegues told me finance its the hardest subject among all....
This is i worried i will failed & which my hard earn save money for my MBA course....
Hope can share & some comments to me..cheerss
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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ May 5 2007, 03:51 PM)
wana pursue an MBA...i had been surveying at HELP, sunway, UM & SEGI...im planning to take out EPF.IM planning to pursue at SEGI due to its cheaper..somehow HELP & sunway is abt RM30-35k...SEGI is only abt 27-29K...USQ....but my concern will i be hard to cope with MBA wich im planning to take part time....im graduate in degree in Eng. & working abt 5 years & now im 26 years old...my experience working is 2year plus in production line & 2 years in project management....all the while i was in engineer position...

my worries is will i have dificulties to cope with MBA...like the subject marketing,finance, etc...whereby im a engineering background...my colegues told me finance its the hardest subject among all....
This is i worried i will failed & which my hard earn save money for my MBA course....
Hope can share & some comments to me..cheerss
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Derek, one key question u should ask yourself, what is the main purpose u r gunning for a MBA?
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wana gain the knowledge & climb the ladder faster.....
as my thinking will MBA benefits me in my career....
as my company is an MNC company..but it does not recognise in here cos quite a lot of my colleque have an MBA cert...they are still at the position of technical exe, asist manager, administrator & etc....
u know my boss dun have an MBA & even my GM is not an MBA holder as well....so does MBA really helps to pursue my career further...???



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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ May 5 2007, 04:29 PM)
wana gain the knowledge & climb the ladder faster.....
as my thinking will MBA benefits me in my career....
as my company is an MNC company..but it does not recognise in here cos quite a lot of my colleque have an MBA cert...they are still at the position of technical exe, asist manager, administrator & etc....
u know my boss dun have an MBA & even my GM is not an MBA holder as well....so does MBA really helps to pursue my career further...???
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IMO ( pls note Im no MBA holder, well, not yet tongue.gif ), an MBA will not guarantee you a payrise or promotion( your colleagues n your boss can testify to this) you will only really benefit from having an MBA when you :.

1. The main reason u took the course bcoz u wanted to learn something and have deep interest in business n finance.
2. Your line or industry values MBA over other pro certificate.
3. Hoop to another company the moment you've got your MBA.

my 2 cents. wink.gif
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@Pai,
MBA's beneficial if u hop to another organisation the moment you're awarded the MBA? hMmM... where's ur loyalty man?! blink.gif

And, let me know if u got my email on the MBS MBA.

Er.. I want MBA because I want to have that next to my name in my business card rclxm9.gif *MuAhaAhaAHa*

@DerekKuah,
I'm not going to say it's gonna be easy working full time and studying part time but it's definitely NOT impossible. You shouldn't allow people to influence you especially negatively - some people find Finance difficult, but some find it a breeze.

Yes, u will be disadvantaged coming from a non biz background undergrad degree but the theories and academics u learn in postgrad and undergrad is the same. Biz students will probably be familiar or at least have heard of some of those theories in their undergraduate studies but its the ability to put those theories into practical/real-life application and your 'aptitude' that makes the MBA different from a BBA.

You will be exposed to the different theories and it being new to you, you just need to put in a little more effort. If u've truly put in the hard work, it's really quite impossible to fail.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 8 2007, 02:25 AM)
@Pai,
MBA's beneficial if u hop to another organisation the moment you're awarded the MBA? hMmM... where's ur loyalty man?!  blink.gif

And, let me know if u got my email on the MBS MBA.
Got your email, thanks dear smile.gif

In most instance, current employers wont be paying the employee any extra $$ just bcoz that particular emmployee has a MBA. Unless the guy/gurl got promoted and getting more responsibilities, usually we dont get our MBA ROI at the current role.

The fastest way to get that recognition and the pay hike to justify the MBA we just received, is to jump ship lah, IMO blush.gif
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@Pai,
Jump ship?! So fast watch Pirates of the Caribbean oredi ah?! biggrin.gif Anyhow, it's not true current employers do not value your new 'love'. In time, opportunities will arise and you'll be given a chance to go for it - obviously, if your current employer's got no idea you're taking an MBA out there, it's a different story altogether.

I could also perhaps be a lil too positive at times?! But hey, that's good isn't it?! tongue.gif
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Nottingham requires IELTS band 7 in order to entitle you to their MBA programme, so does this mean that you have to take IELTS when you are working? Because nottingham requires you to have 3 years experience for their MBA programme and IELTS only has a validity of 2 years. Are there any ways to go aroud this?
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@noisyarsenic,
Yes, take ur IELTS while ur working, and just before you put in your application for your MBA. Actual IELTS test takes place on Saturdays so if u work Sats u just need to take the day off. And if I remember right, u should be done by lunch time.

No point to take the IELTS now because:-
1) U may not end up taking the MBA 3 years from now
2) IELTS will be invalid by then
3) U may not be required to do an English proficiency test depending on your previous degree
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FYI, some MBA programs require you to take the GMAT too.
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From what I've seen, most local MBAs or MBAs conducted locally do not require GMAT.

Also, for IELTS, if you graduated from foreign university and/or your work environment is predominantly English - usually you can get an exemption.

I remember getting exemption even from overseas courses when I applied in the past. I also did my GMAT, but I think no longer valid for me. I didn't do my MBA in the end.

I think it's important to understand what you're doing an MBA for - as other people have pointed out.

Also, my personal feeling is that you should have at least 5 years+ work experience to make it meaningful.

Having said that, the Manchester Part time in Sunway is tweaking my interest. Nottingham as well.

The only concern I have is the peer group around as one of the key learnings will definitely be from your own coursemates. No offense to anyone, but if you enter a course where there's a whole bunch of inexperienced people around, you don't get the full benefit either. So I think it's important to ask about the admissions profile. You should be doing a 'reverse' interview with the MBA school of your choice.

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@Joker339,
Most Business Schools will require GMAT - obviously, as you've mentioned there are also a 'select many' who doesn't look at GMAT to determine entry requirement. In the past, GMAT was required for those who wanted to pursue their MBA at UM - I've no idea if this is still applicable today. If they haven't changed their course structure, I would highly recommend you stay away from it - it's more Academically driven than it is practical driven.

I haven't gone through the MBS MBA requirements but I do believe GMAT would be required. Normally, GMAT scores are required for US/UK based uni's for graduate studies related to Business. The rest takes the GRE if I'm not mistaken (am not sure if this is applicable for UK uni's but it's applicable for US based uni's).

You're most right about ensuring the peers in your class are of certain 'ahem' (calibre? *shrugs*). Over the phone with MBS MBA, I did ask about their enrolment and other information but she said those were confidential - I suppose if I truly was interested and met up with Programme Head, she probably would have released some information.... like u, I find that most important.

I also took into consideration the course structure, contact hours (it doesn't necessarily mean the more contact hours the better it is - cause sometimes u may just not have the time to attend them all), facilitators, resources, etc. A 'weird' criteria I had was 'location' of school cause I didn't wanna travel too far ! kEKekKEkekk but that's just me... *weirdo* doh.gif
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From what I've seen of Nottingham and Manchester websites (the local ones I mean), it doesn't seem to show GMAT as compulsory?

I could be wrong for Manchester, but I'm 100% certain Nottingham, you can enrol w/o taking GMAT.

Do let me know/post in the forum if you do find out more about the Sunway/Manchester one. But I think I am gatal only..... won't have the time to purse at moment.

Which is where I think your point on location is actually very valid - after work/during weekends, if have to go damn far/inconvenient location just to attend classes, that would be 'irritating'. But of course, location can't trump the Uni/Course reputation lah.

Which is also why Local U MBA.... err... I think don't waste your time and money.
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I don't know about Nottingham's requirements but I'm surprised if GMAT's not needed - it's good though cause it's a real hassle having to sit for an additional exam just to gain entry..... waste of time & money.. If wanna test, call me in for an interview and access from there lah *g* whistling.gif

I did post the fees for the coming intake for the MBS MBA (RM75k after the 25% bursary). Next intake will be RM100k (but who knows if they'll offer another 25% bursary then *shrugs*). Anyhow, if U want more details, I could redirect the email which was sent to me - just PM me your email address.

If ur thinking of an MBA, u'll HAVE to find the time and I'm sure u be able to find it - it is afterall priorities and time management - something MOST managers should know *g* [then again, knowing and not practising it is another matter altogether!] hEHehehEHeheh tongue.gif
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Joker339,
I don't know about Nottingham's requirements but I'm surprised if GMAT's not needed - it's good though cause it's a real hassle having to sit for an additional exam just to gain entry..... waste of time & money.. If wanna test, call me in for an interview and access from there lah *g*  whistling.gif

I did post the fees for the coming intake for the MBS MBA (RM75k after the 25% bursary).  Next intake will be RM100k (but who knows if they'll offer another 25% bursary then *shrugs*).  Anyhow, if U want more details, I could redirect the email which was sent to me - just PM me your email address.

If ur thinking of an MBA, u'll HAVE to find the time and I'm sure u be able to find it - it is afterall priorities and time management - something MOST managers should know *g* [then again, knowing and not practising it is another matter altogether!] hEHehehEHeheh  tongue.gif
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I've actually taken GMAT, so to be fair, it's much better for a Uni to check your GMAT as it's hard to tell everything from your interview.

BTW - GMAT got both a Language as well as a Math (or more) part. I remembered that I used to be damn good at Math - but haha..... needed to practise as well as do exercises - was way too slow and cannot remember formulas.

Luckily I aced the Language part - else my overall score would be lower.

I've pm-ed you my email.


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Hi there...

I am someone who have gone thru all the chaos to get a fulltime MBA. GMAT, IELTS, a number of admission essays, troubled my referees, sent to top 4 uk b-schools. Dinged from Oxford interview and got an offer from fulltime Manchester B-school (ranked 22nd in FT 2007, 4th in UK)

After struggling to get financial aid via scholarships/loans, decided to let go the fulltime one coz my available funds still insufficient.

Now, am looking to either take up part-time Nottingham or MBS. But, i'm not sure of the ROI for MBA in Malaysia (unlike the fulltime in UK whereby we can get some info from the rankings).

Been to the MBS workshop tester in Sunway last month though. It's a 2.5 - 3 years course (a bit long). Talked to the Director of this programme from UK. Same recognition and accredition with the fulltime one. No worries. Can pay up to 6 installments. GMAT is NOT compulsory though. It's on case to case basis. 100% UK professors.

As for the Nottingham, it's a 2 year programme. Guess it's more hectic as compared wif MBS as we need to attend classes 2/3 days a week. But cheaper by 20+k. Ranked 93rd in FT 2007.

this is my 2 cents biggrin.gif


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@Joker339,
I haven't gone through GMATs so unable to comment - haven't done much research on what it includes but I definitely do NOT look forward to the Maths part *g* - am a little slow in that area... Let's hope I won't ever need to take it - and if i do, I'll surely look you up here for some advise, if needed smile.gif

Have forwarded the MBS MBA info to ur email address biggrin.gif
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FT REPORT - BUSINESS EDUCATION: EDUCATION WITH WORLDWIDE APPEAL
By Andrew Baxter, Financial Times
Published: Mar 19, 2007


*The distance-learning arm of Manchester Business School (MBS) was established in 1992 and, during Richard Bruens' time on the MBA programme, was known as the Institute of Financial Management. This was a partnership between MBS and the University of Wales, Bangor. Now the school, which was renamed MBS Worldwide in 2002, is fully part of MBS.

*In the mid-1990s, workshops were held in Bangor or in Manchester but today they are held at Manchester or at MBS Worldwide's other permanently staffed overseas centres in Dubai, Hong Kong, Singapore, Jamaica and Dublin.

*The school offers a suite of distance learning programmes including a DBA (Doctor of Business Administration) and three profession-based MBA programmes:

MBA for Financial Managers and Finance Professionals, MBA for Engineering Business Managers, and an MBA for Construction Executives. MBS Worldwide is to launch a distance learning general MBA - the Manchester Global MBA - next month.

*The term "distance learning", however, is something of a misnomer when applied to MBS Worldwide because of the amount of face-to-face interaction that students experiencevia weekend and other workshops.MBS Worldwide students get 50 hours of face-to-face contact with thefaculty staff per semester (250 hours over the whole MBA), which is approximately two-thirds of the time that a full-time, campus-based student would get.


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"today they are held at Manchester or at MBS Worldwide's other permanently staffed overseas centres in Dubai, Hong Kong, Singapore, Jamaica and Dublin."

I don't see Malaysia?
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Hi

Does anybody know anything about the MBA offered by the Malaysian Institute of Management? From what I can understand inti is doing recruitment for MIM. MIM offers 3 MBA program: 1)RMIT-MBA, 2)MBA from Maastrict sch of management (currently considering this cos the sch is AMBA accreditated and listed in the EIT rankings, and 3) MBA offered by uni of hertfordshire.

Has anybody went for any of the 3 MBAs I mentioned? I'm thinking of joining the MBA offered by Maastrict school of management. Anybody have any suggestions?
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yeah, i notice the word 'Malaysia' is missing.....

but if you visit its website, u'll find the word dere.....www.mbs-worldwide.ac.uk

if anyone has any queries on MBS MBA, you can liaise with Dr Marie directly. She's fast in responding; marie@sunway.edu.my

this programme is more like a distance learning but with contact hours with UK professors. I find it interesting as we can opt to attend its workshops (3 consecutive full days for each module) anywhere globally (of course we gotto budget for it)

well, MBA might not be the ultimate path towards a better job prospect but it will become useful one day when the time comes (especially those thinking of working out of M'sia)

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@xtremesportx,
I'm not too sure about the 3 MBA programs conducted by MIM - if my memory doesn't fail me, and now that u mentioned it, I've heard about the RMIT-MBA program being available in MY in the past - I didn't pursue for more information though due to some reasons *shrugs - can't remember*

I know of an acquaintance who pursued the Maastricht-MBA (but I don't recall it being offered by MIM - it was another 'school' I think) and if the program is conducted in the same manner, I believe you'll need to spend a short semester (probably something like a Summer programme) on campus at Maastricht. I remember having the Maastricht-MBA shortlisted but I wasn't too keen on travelling too far for classes *I did mention I've 'weird' selection criterias* - plus, I wouldn't have been able to have taken the X weeks off to go over to the campus; and that was compulsory for graduation.

Best is to contact MIM and speak to the respective people in charge. Find out about the course structure and shortlist which you think you prefer. Good Luck! How much's the Maastricht-MBA now btw? And, the RMIT-MBA?
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MIM currently offering MBA from RMIT,MSM and Hertfordshire...fees wise i think is around RM30k++...and i think Maastricht School of Management and University of Maastricht are 2 different entities...to my knowledge, University of Maastricht has one of the famous business school in europe...not so sure bout Maastricht School of Management...
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@IamDaryl,
The Maastrich-MBA i was referring to in my earlier posting's from University of Maastrich. No further research was done on my part to find out if Maastrich School of Management is affiliated to University of Maastrich.

@xtremesportx,
It'll be good for u to do some research - it's not difficult especially since u just need to do an online search - haf fun researching into it and good luck! smile.gif


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MBA by university of maastricht is really quite renowned....btw,if you guys wan further options...i saw an ad in paper fr itd on MBA offered by university of south australia(UniSA)...did some readings...found out that unisa MBA is one of the top MBA in australia...
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Top MBA in Australia should be the one by AGSM (Australia Graduate School of Management). Am not too sure about Uni SA's MBA program but it's worth giving it a go. Uni SA with ITD also offers the DBA program if I'm not mistaken smile.gif
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Wondering why there isn't anyone discuss about the subject provided in those Uni/College?

A question for those who studied MBA.. Do you find MBA impact your personal life? What i'm trying to ask is, did those who persuaded their MBA do actually apply the concept/understanding in personal life?

Well, i guess management is not only applicable for your work.. it also applicable in your personal life. icon_rolleyes.gif

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@LemonTea,
If one wants to put what he's learnt into his every day life, he can. The only trouble with us is we don't ! smile.gif
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How's Corporate Master in Business Administration from UNIMAS? Anyone can share with me what does it mean with corporate and how's the MBa there?
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@Savor_Savvy,
Corporate Masters in MBA? That's new to me - could it be the subjects, hence a different stream? Most MBAs out there are just MBAs or Executive MBAs - but Corporate MBA is not something I've heard of before.... wanna share their course structure and outline with us?
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@Savor_Savvy,
Corporate Masters in MBA?  That's new to me - could it be the subjects, hence a different stream?  Most MBAs out there are just MBAs or Executive MBAs - but Corporate MBA is not something I've heard of before.... wanna share their course structure and outline with us?
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I'm not sure also. I just found it at UNIMAS website.
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@Savor_Savvy,
Well, keep us updated when U get the information. I'm not really out there seeking for an MBA, or a Corporate MBA so I shall leave all the seeking of information and research to those who's interested biggrin.gif
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does icsa qualification enable one to study mba?
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Hi jtll07,

Could you please share your MBA experience at OUM? Coz I'm thinking to enrol OUM's MBA next year. Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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Guys...I wanna ask...If I dun have Bsc(Business degree) but only LLB can I take MBA anot?
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@liez,
Yes, an LLB will be suffice to get you enrolled into an MBA program smile.gif

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QUOTE(liez @ Jul 30 2007, 11:53 AM)
Guys...I wanna ask...If I dun have Bsc(Business degree) but only LLB can I take MBA anot?
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No problem in getting in... The prerequisites to get into an MBA programme is a degree, no matter in what field... heck even one with an engineering degree can take an MBA
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Jul 15 2007, 03:25 PM)
I'm not sure also. I just found it at UNIMAS website.
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do you seriously think you'd go somewhere or gain something from unimas mba? c'mon.....


Added on August 1, 2007, 11:46 ammbas is actually an excellent qualification for those working towards general management. it complements whatever original qualification in whatever discipline you have...be it engineering, law, accountancy, i.t. or whatever.

with a basic degree from a recognised university or even professional qualification (icsa, acca....but NOT lcci) will get you entry into an mba from relatively respectable university.

some universities do give exemptions for acca holders but i personally think exemptions should only be given for those with masters qualification as it is ridiculous to offer exemptions for subjects taken at bachelors level for a masters programme. watch out for those universities who are more hungry for students and money than quality of their programmes.\


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My 2 cents thought:

I think it wasn't Bath at HELP then Inti but rather U of Hull.

But both colleges are no longer running this MBA.

QUOTE(Teong @ Dec 16 2006, 11:26 AM)
Bath was one time offered at MIM and HELP but was dropped. It then went to Inti I think but partnership ended when Inti was found to flout quality rules by the uni.

Am clueless as to whether this MBA is now available in Malaysia...dont' seem to advertise lately.
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MBA by research...anyone heard of this?
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MBA by research? Normally, postgraduate studies like Masters by research are meant for academias and not practitioners. No, I haven't heard of an MBA by research, and honestly I find it weird for a school to offer one ohmy.gif
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anyone have idea of how is Uni of Hertforshire MBA ?
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nottingham give 25% discount to all working student who at least got second upper...but only to ex notts student only.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Last thursday Star advertised a 12 mth entrepreneurial MBA from a local college. You guys know anything about this. Comments!!
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@rubicube,
I hate to say this but I don't think one can really 'STUDY' how to be an Entrepreneur. Anyhow, I suggest you look into the course outline and structure as well as subjects you will be undertaking to check if it's relevant to what you want to study.

Which local college is it from btw? I think i did flip through an Entrepreneur MBA but as I'm not in the market for a local MBA, I don't pay too much attention to MBA ads.
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QUOTE(arsenal @ Sep 9 2007, 05:43 AM)
nottingham give 25% discount to all working student who at least got second upper...but only to ex notts student only.... tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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46000- (25/100 x 46000) = 34500....ok wat..better than ALL the MBAs in MALAYSIA..... drool.gif drool.gif
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@arsenal,
Better in what sense?! And, are we looking at 'best' here based on course structure/outline/ranking/cheap fees?
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@rubicube,
I hate to say this but I don't think one can really 'STUDY' how to be an Entrepreneur.  Anyhow, I suggest you look into the course outline and structure as well as subjects you will be undertaking to check if it's relevant to what you want to study.

Which local college is it from btw?  I think i did flip through an Entrepreneur MBA but as I'm not in the market for a local MBA, I don't pay too much attention to MBA ads.
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It's advertised in the Star today again.

the 12-mth Entrepreneurial MBA is from Entrepreneural Institute of Australia conducted in KL (Excel College of Open Learning)

80:20 ratio Written Exam and Assignment marking system.

Any good?
I want a shortcut MBA la!

http://www.excel.edu.my/welcome.html
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@rubicube,
Yes I saw the ad in the Star earlier when I was flipping through the papers - didn't pay much attention to it other than the information u've provided here *grins*

You want a short-cut MBA? In dat case, go for an MBA which is EASY to pass! Don't bother about those with exams cause it's better to find one where u just need to put in assignments and get someone to do ur assignment for u *grins*

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@rubicube,
Yes I saw the ad in the Star earlier when I was flipping through the papers - didn't pay much attention to it other than the information u've provided here *grins*

You want a short-cut MBA?  In dat case, go for an MBA which is EASY to pass!  Don't bother about those with exams cause it's better to find one where u just need to put in assignments and get someone to do ur assignment for u *grins*
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Wah got like that one ah?

U got info?
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@rubicube,
U said u wanted a short-cut MBA. I'm not recommending nor suggesting u find someone to get ur assignments done for u, but it's really entirely up to you *muAhaHAahA* I've heard of people asking others to write their thesises and assignments for them. Personally, I wouldn't coz as much as I want the MBA behind my name, I'll make sure it really belongs to me and not someone else smile.gif

I ain't doing much research on MBAs these days but i'm sure u'll be able to find many courses - just do a search; btw why not check out those 'spam mails' frequently received about obtaining a degree easily online? *grins* Just make sure u do get the piece of paper after spending the $

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all nottingham lecturers are featured in Bloomberg TV......i dont think UPM lecturers can talk in Bloomberg...
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all nottingham lecturers are featured in Bloomberg TV......i dont think UPM lecturers can talk in Bloomberg...
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Is it worthwhile to go for reputable and expensive MBA course? At the end of the day is to get a paper call MBA as a ticket to another job. And the job can be done by people with Degree + Experience. However, no deny that MBA course would nourish a person's knowledge.
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@arthurlwf,
There's a reason why there are certain costs to a 'reputable' MBA - ever heard of the phrase, "Pay peanuts, get monkeys?"

If you are of the opinion that the MBA is merely a piece of paper and entrance to a better future, then by all means just go obtain that piece of paper - and take the easiest route in obtaining it; you may not learn much though. Whilst there are cost concerns and constraints, i think it's important who the facilitators are [they may not be well recognised but as long as they've got the substance and are able to impart knowledge and experience to you]. I am also of the opinion that it's important to know who your other course/class mates will be; how many years of experience? in what industry? position?
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Somehow I agree partly with arthurlwf on getting that piece of paper for a better 'pay' job. I don't need an MBA for my current job.

Well, I study just to pass my STPM, SPM or what not. In real life you dun practice what u learn in school.

However, since MBA assignments or thesis can be 'real life' work related, i think learning MBA is still practically associated with what you'll USE in real life.

Well about getting a better pay job, YES, that's why i want to pursue an MBA. Either for a promotion in my current company or a promotion in another company.

In the end, why do you want a promotion for? You like higher responsibility? or you like more work? or the MBA paper looks good? OR just simply the 'bottomline' of getting a higher pay?

For me, I want a higher pay!
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@rubicube,
Obtaining an MBA doesn't necessarily mean you're 'qualified' for a higher paid job. It also doesn't guarantee a higher salary. The thing about most students is that we don't put into practise what we're taught - a lot of things we've learnt in the past, we're actually utilising today; u may not realise it but it's true - think about it.

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@rubicube,
Obtaining an MBA doesn't necessarily mean you're 'qualified' for a higher paid job.  It also doesn't guarantee a higher salary.  The thing about most students is that we don't put into practise what we're taught - a lot of things we've learnt in the past, we're actually utilising today; u may not realise it but it's true - think about it.
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I want more money too!!!

I think you realize it but it needs to be said that getting that MBA will only get you higher pay if you take on more responsibility or sometimes if you move to a different line of work altogether. More money does not come without more work.

For some industries, the reputation of the MBA makes a huge difference. If you're good enough to be admitted and to pass/excel in a good school, then you're already better than the rest in certain ways. Some places in Singapore are like that for example.



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@arthurlwf,
There's a reason why there are certain costs to a 'reputable' MBA - ever heard of the phrase, "Pay peanuts, get monkeys?"

If you are of the opinion that the MBA is merely a piece of paper and entrance to a better future, then by all means just go obtain that piece of paper - and take the easiest route in obtaining it; you may not learn much though.  Whilst there are cost concerns and constraints, i think it's important who the facilitators are [they may not be well recognised but as long as they've got the substance and are able to impart knowledge and experience to you].  I am also of the opinion that it's important to know who your other course/class mates will be; how many years of experience? in what industry? position?
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You seems to be very academic... However, do you have any real life experience in which you can apply what you had learn from MBA course to your working situation?

Getting to know coursemate is purely networking and there are other means to know great people without going for MBA. e.g. Lowyat Forum notworthy.gif
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do u have an MBA tinkerbel or any plans in getting one ?
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Getting to know coursemate is purely networking and there are other means to know great people without going for MBA. e.g. Lowyat Forum  notworthy.gif
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While you can know people in LYN, I doubt that many good business folk running successful businesses have time to read LYN or impart their knowhow on LYN. Just look at the long running "Earning > RM5k" thread and see how much info you can actually get out of it biggrin.gif

Also, do understand how a good MBA program works. The professors in the program are just facilitators, the people who contribute ideas are the students/coursemates. You are given a situation or case study, each group discusses this and come up with a solution, which is then discussed with other groups in the class. Someone coming straight out of a degree program or with minimal experience will contribute significantly less compared to an entrepreneur running a successful business or a more senior guy who's been around. Assuming that getting to know your coursemates is purely networking is just naive.

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In my company (a MNC), I just can't get promoted to anything higher than a sales manager. I have a college diploma which is totally not related to my current job.

I am currently earning RM120k pa!
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@DarReNz,
A fellow forumer's oredi answered the question u posed for me *grins*

@tishaban,
I don't think it's just 'some' industries. Also, there's always a reason why some MBAs are more reputable than others and the reasoning of costs. It's good to have the $ to spend on the highly reputable MBAs and for those who like tish has absolutely no problems gaining entry into one, I'm sure there's a bright future ahead; i wouldn't recommend it if you intend to venture out on your own when you complete your MBA - yes you would have the networking in place but the $ spend on the education can be put to better use.

And thanks for the elaboration on the 'networking' part biggrin.gif If people think it's the same as just getting to know people on LYN and posting on forums then well, I rest my case blink.gif

@arthurlwf,
I'm not speaking from an academician's view point. Yes it's true we don't put all theories to use but we do make use of the basic 'foundation pillars'. To start giving examples I would have to spend the whole night typing [and I've better use of my time, especially since I've a deadline tomorrow hence need to look into some other matters after this post]. Obviously, there will be some irrelevant stuff but there's no harm learning about it - it just gives u a broader view and makes you look at things from a different perspective.

@rubicube,
If obtaining an MBA is the only way to go in order for you to climb the corporate ladder, it doesn't seem as if u've a choice - at RM120k p/annum your salary is pretty high but would it also be due to sales commission? Also, bear in mind that when you climb up the ladder, your remuneration package will change and commission may be eliminated; your perks are different. The top sales person in the organisation may just earn more than the Division Head *shrugs*

At the end of the day, it's entirely up to an individual - for me, I think it's time to RETIRE !! smile.gif
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Sep 13 2007, 06:24 AM)
While you can know people in LYN, I doubt that many good business folk running successful businesses have time to read LYN or impart their knowhow on LYN. Just look at the long running "Earning > RM5k" thread and see how much info you can actually get out of it biggrin.gif

Also, do understand how a good MBA program works. The professors in the program are just facilitators, the people who contribute ideas are the students/coursemates. You are given a situation or case study, each group discusses this and come up with a solution, which is then discussed with other groups in the class. Someone coming straight out of a degree program or with minimal experience will contribute significantly less compared to an entrepreneur running a successful business or a more senior guy who's been around. Assuming that getting to know your coursemates is purely networking is just naive.
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That's not the case with the MBA program I am taking....

Some subjests like Marketing, business computing, international business, econs have constant contributes from my classmates, but subjects like statistics and financial management(the subject i am suffering right now) is purely a lecture-talk-student-listen kinda subject....it's kinda like degree style teaching....

I am still in my first year (exam this weekend, if pass i'll be going to 2nd year) and it'll be my second year next semester. I hope things could change where there are more people contributing to the classes....


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@DarReNz,
A fellow forumer's oredi answered the question u posed for me *grins*
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D reason the subjects u mentioned becomes a 'lecture' session is because the students in the class hasn't gone through the reading materials or because they aren't familiar with the academic/theoretical aspects hence the need to 'teach' those basics. No point in giving out case studies because without the background theories, ur not gonna be able to answer those questions - hence it's also important to prepare for class; but just how many of us bother preparing for classes? Damn, just how many people even actually bother preparing themselves for a meeting? blush.gif
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@lokgotz,
D reason the subjects u mentioned becomes a 'lecture' session is because the students in the class hasn't gone through the reading materials or because they aren't familiar with the academic/theoretical aspects hence the need to 'teach' those basics.  No point in giving out case studies because without the background theories, ur not gonna be able to answer those questions - hence it's also important to prepare for class; but just how many of us bother preparing for classes?  Damn, just how many people even actually bother preparing themselves for a meeting?  blush.gif
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I can understand that is the case for statistics as i dont think statistics (theoratical parts) are widely use in the office.

But Finance is quite common, i think la...according to the lecturer, the subject would be kacang putih to accountants.

There are quite a number of accountants in my class, but none of them gave feedbacks and stuff...

Reading materials were given at the beginning of the semester, but none of the lecuturers use it (in the case of my MBA course, i dont know about other MBA courses)...so there is no point reading the materials beforehand...

There wasn't a of of case studies also....unless examples of companies being used to describe a situation is considered as case studies..

I am too new too all these stuff....hahah.....

OT: All those Kd, Ke, Ko, K???? is driving me nuts for finance...really wanna pass my exams after slaving through my assignments(passed).....hehehe.....
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But Finance is quite common, i think la...according to the lecturer, the subject would be kacang putih to accountants.

There are quite a number of accountants in my class, but none of them gave feedbacks and stuff...

Reading materials were given at the beginning of the semester, but none of the lecuturers use it (in the case of my MBA course, i dont know about other MBA courses)...so there is no point reading the materials beforehand...
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Sounds very "Malaysian" to me, one way street only biggrin.gif In most of the top MBA programs, class participation is a significant part of your final grade, sometimes up to 25% which might mean a difference between an A and a fail depending on how high your curve is.

I find MIT's Open Courseware to be a good reference in general.

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Malaysians love to be spoon fed what to do? I hope you're learning from your study group though biggrin.gif
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Malaysians love to be spoon fed what to do?  I hope you're learning from your study group though  biggrin.gif
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yeah.....my study group was fine...a sales guy, a marketing guy, the IT guy(me) and a an admin girl.....quite diversified.....hehe...

learning a lot on how their company operates, it might be unrelated to the course/subjects we are taking, but at least it's something that is happening real life..something more practical than all those Kd, Ke, Rm,RF stuff in finance management!

P.S. I am still clueless about finance management....and my exams starts in 12 hours and 44 minutes....
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@lokgotz,
Discuss stuff with your group member; put what you have learnt into practise. No point in just finding out operations smile.gif I don't think i'm gonna be able to help u much with your Finance, so good luck ! smile.gif


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Discuss stuff with your group member; put what you have learnt into practise.  No point in just finding out operations smile.gif  I don't think i'm gonna be able to help u much with your Finance, so good luck ! smile.gif
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Define local and foreign. I think it's v much dependent on which particular Biz School you're talking about smile.gif
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yeah...can u define local and foreign....

I am taking an australian MBA in a local college where the lecturers are local and the exams for the second year are from australia....so mine is local or foreign?

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You will also need about RM100k smile.gif And, the MBS MBA *should* be good... very good smile.gif


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im plannign my MBA nest year...somehow i did myself on either SEGI or sunway...but the sunway Victoria is a bit pricey..betwn i went for both college Seminar MBA...in term of facilities sunway shud be better in such compare to SEGI....
Can anyone pls give feedback on me for SEGI & sunway?i understand that SEGI have more working ppl study mba compare sunway some is undergraduate student?
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You will also need about RM100k smile.gif And, the MBS MBA *should* be good... very good smile.gif
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hi. 1st sem here wif MBS MBA.....

My intake was a little lucky as we got 25% bursary, so total course is RM70k. I'm not sure wif the next intake though.

My brother was from UM MBA. The difference for both is MBS MBA is totally on real life case study (definitely no spoon feed, need a lot of research), whereas UM MBA is more to books basis.

As MBS MBA is a distant learning wif 3/4 contact hours wif UK prof (grouped into 3 full days per module, therefore dun need to attend weekly classes), u can be well assured dat the quality is similar of doing fulltime in UK.

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yeah...can u define local and foreign....

I am taking an australian MBA in a local college where the lecturers are local and the exams for the second year are from australia....so mine is local or foreign?
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I guess local would be fully local and foreign would be fully abroad or graduate with foreign certificate. In short, what is the institution that confer u the MBA.
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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Sep 17 2007, 11:23 AM)
im plannign my MBA nest year...somehow i did myself on either SEGI or sunway...but the sunway Victoria is a bit pricey..betwn i went for both college Seminar MBA...in term of facilities  sunway shud be better in such compare to SEGI....
Can anyone pls give feedback on me for SEGI & sunway?i understand that SEGI have more working ppl study mba compare sunway some is undergraduate student?
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What would u like to know about Segi's MBA?

I can only provide you with information on Segi's USQ MBA(the one i am taking), the rest of the MBA u have to ask someone else...hahah....

it terms of facility, Segi sucks to the max(SS2 campus)...
The "library" is just 3 racks of books in a room about the size of a squash court...
No wifi in the campus

but all this will be different in the KD campus....The SS2 campus is closing down this month, infact, my last exam(yesterday) was the last class in SS2...they wont be operating already...

about 95% of the classes are working adults....but from my understanding, they recently accept applications from people without the minimum 2 years working experience as well, on one condition, their specialization must be International business....

As far as the classes go, i've mentioned it in my previous posts....some lecturers spoon feed us...some discuss stuff with us...realy world cases are also discussed...

just post it here if u need to know more....i'll try my best to answer ur questions...


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I guess local would be fully local and foreign would be fully abroad or graduate with foreign certificate. In short, what is the institution that confer u the MBA.
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I cant comment on local MBAs...besides that they are a lot cheaper than foreign MBAs.

For foreign MBAs, some of them will have lecturers coming down to malaysia to conduct full day classes...so u'll have to take leave and attend the classes. This is where u get to ask questions that your usual lecturers wont be able to answer, i.e. how will the exam be marked, based on critical analysis or just textbook answers, how will the assignments be assessed, what type of references do you need...questions like that...

For foreign MBAs, you'll have to keep in constant contact with your lecturers via emails or online forums of the uni...some of the subjects (in my case) does not have any classes for that particular subject....so u'll be relying on emails to complete your course....

So to take a local MBA or a foreign MBA is really your choice....I am sure both has it's pros and cons...

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isnt MBS MBA programmes catered mainly for engineers and finance professionals...it is not a general MBA. easier to get in...
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I started my MBA journey at SEGi SJ and this sem I'm going for FM. Plus, I'm going to form a study group.

Do you have any tips for me on these two areas?
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the GMAT test is horrible, it takes me 1 month to prepare
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@lokgotz

I started my MBA journey at SEGi SJ and this sem I'm going for FM. Plus, I'm going to form a study group.

Do you have any tips for me on these two areas?
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This semester FM? Funny. Maybe it's different from campus to campus because SS2(shifted to KD)/KD campus is doing business computing and marketing management. I thought they have to synchronize all subjects, campus wide.

My tips for FM--->STUDY HARD and ATTEND ALL CLASSES. I don't know about you but to me, FM is the hardest subject of all 6 subjects in the first year.

As for study group, just go with your instincts. It's best if you could get an accounting person in your study group since according to the lecturer, FM will be like kindergartens stuff to accountants.

Bear in mind that the MBA course is a part time course, study groups might not work. Your free time might be your group mate's busiest times.

Some of them have families as well and most of them are working adults. These people are usually at the mid-top management levels, so impromptu meetings and outstation trips are very common, thus affecting your group studies. So it's still best that you rely more on to yourself.

This is just based on my experiences. Maybe you'll have a different bunch of coursemates where they could make it every time you guys have group studies. OT: My group is a young bunch, about 24-27 years old. Everytime there is a group study, 10% of the time is used for studying, 50% of the time for chit chatting rclxms.gif and the other 40% is to get drunk. doh.gif I know, bad example! sweat.gif

BTW, are you taking USQ MBA or Sunderland?

OT:
Since my college didn't call me, I assume that I've passed my exams rclxm9.gif and I'll be going to the second part of my MBA course in November, where the subjects are externally moderated and it is supposedly a lot harder than the first part. To be honest, the first part was really like a honey moon year. Just do your assignments and study for exams. That's it. Not much research to do anyway.

Second part will be tough. I heard from my coursemates that assignments are due in a shorter period of time, exams are much harder and communication between the student and the lecturers overseas are vital as they will be the ones marking assignments and exams. You'll have to know their style of marking, what do they really want as answers and things like that. The local lecturers are only there to facilitate.

And to make things worst, I've just started my job (I wasn't working during my first part, health problem). I hope I'll be able to cope with it.

Just PM me if you need to know more, or just post it here.....hehe.....

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All subjects are offered on each sem. So, it's perfectly normal for me to take FM this sem =D

I'm also aware FM is the superb hard subject. That's triggers me to consider study group option. Since you got the points on that, I guess just keep the group small and flexible. Another possible approach is discussion via emails.

Another reason for me consider study group is for the part 2. I was told to have study group to survive in part 2. Lone ranger is ok for part 1 but part 2 is going be huge. a.k.a. Study smart not hard.

In order to cater for FM, I do some prior reading on any FM stuffs. Do you have any good sites for me? BTW, how did you receive your assignment questions? For SJ branch, is via download from their web site -> http://www.connect.segi.edu.my

Because of my work, my approach is 1 subject per sem. It's going be slow and steady. Last sem, few study mates took 2 subjects and ended up screaming. Guess what? They are going for 2 subjects (including FM) for this sem as well. It's going be interesting to see how they react. =D

FYI, I'm going for USA MBA.
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Do not tell urself the subject is difficult for if you do, you will find that it truly is tough! Just prepare for classes and you'll do fine. Ask when you don't understand and importantly, contribute!

To really check if you know the subject, explain what you've just learnt to someone who's lost and if you're able to transfer the knowledge, you'll realise you'll know the subject better now smile.gif

Good Luck...and soon, u people be talking about DBAs ! *scary*
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@lokgotz

All subjects are offered on each sem. So, it's perfectly normal for me to take FM this sem =D

I'm also aware FM is the superb hard subject. That's triggers me to consider study group option. Since you got the points on that, I guess just keep the group small and flexible. Another possible approach is discussion via emails.

Another reason for me consider study group is for the part 2. I was told to have study group to survive in part 2. Lone ranger is ok for part 1 but part 2 is going be huge. a.k.a. Study smart not hard.

In order to cater for FM, I do some prior reading on any FM stuffs. Do you have any good sites for me? BTW, how did you receive your assignment questions? For SJ branch, is via download from their web site -> http://www.connect.segi.edu.my

Because of my work, my approach is 1 subject per sem. It's going be slow and steady. Last sem, few study mates took 2 subjects and ended up screaming. Guess what? They are going for 2 subjects (including FM) for this sem as well. It's going be interesting to see how they react. =D

FYI, I'm going for USA MBA.
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I didn't know all subjects were offered. Only 2 subjects are offered in my campus.

Yeah, keep your group small and flexible. Discussion via emails is good as well, but as I've said earlier, people might not have time to read their emails AND reply them.

No one tell me that I need a study group to survive in part 2! sweat.gif But I should be alright as I still have my current group to study.

We do not have any logins to any website. I don't know why but all these while we thought it was beacause we are part time students, so we have no logins. I got my assignment questions the old skool way, handed out by the program coordinator.hehehe...

I take 2 subjects every semester and it was alright, partly because I wasn't working. All my coursemates were ok too. It all depends on yourselves me thinks. taking 1 subject at a time is slow. Very slow but if you can't cope with it, it most probably is the best way to do it.

Let me know if you need my assignments, you know, for "reference". Tinkerbel helped me with my Marketing Management whistling.gif , so ask her permission before you take mine..heheh.. thumbup.gif


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Do not tell urself the subject is difficult for if you do, you will find that it truly is tough!  Just prepare for classes and you'll do fine.  Ask when you don't understand and importantly, contribute!

To really check if you know the subject, explain what you've just learnt to someone who's lost and if you're able to transfer the knowledge, you'll realise you'll know the subject better now smile.gif

Good Luck...and soon, u people be talking about DBAs ! *scary*
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With the amount of publicity you're giving to me, I'm gonna have to start charging for advise sought *grins* biggrin.gif And I'm very sure you would have scored much much much better if u'd taken my advise and made those amendments !! tongue.gif *grins* but ah well, time was what u didn't haf and well, at least u passed *grins* rclxms.gif

Good luck with the DBA - I'm sure there's gonna be more choices then than now. I did come across a new DBA offered by *i dun remember the name but I think it's probably affiliated with HELP [i think it's Glocal Education ....bla bla bla...]*. Its offshore partner's a uni in the Philippines - don't quite remember the name but i do know they've just opened registration for the 1st Intake. It apparently also can be completed within 1.5 years. Ok Ok I'll spare the details cause ur not gonna start until about a decade later [plus, that's all the info I have! LoL]

Eh.. and how can u be too tired of studying? You still have an entire Y2 to go through before you're done with the program!! Oh.. and I'm fed up of work, fed up of some people, fed up of teaching, fed up of the ... ah well, u get the idea tongue.gif
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@lokgotz,
With the amount of publicity you're giving to me, I'm gonna have to start charging for advise sought *grins*  biggrin.gif  And I'm very sure you would have scored much much much better if u'd taken my advise and made those amendments !!  tongue.gif  *grins* but ah well, time was what u didn't haf and well, at least u passed *grins*  rclxms.gif

Good luck with the DBA - I'm sure there's gonna be more choices then than now.  I did come across a new DBA offered by *i dun remember the name but I think it's probably affiliated with HELP [i think it's Glocal Education ....bla bla bla...]*.  Its offshore partner's a uni in the Philippines - don't quite remember the name but i do know they've just opened registration for the 1st Intake.  It apparently also can be completed within 1.5 years.  Ok Ok I'll spare the details cause ur not gonna start until about a decade later [plus, that's all the info I have! LoL]

Eh.. and how can u be too tired of studying?  You still have an entire Y2 to go through before you're done with the program!!  Oh.. and I'm fed up of work, fed up of some people, fed up of teaching, fed up of the ... ah well, u get the idea  tongue.gif
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I got a B+ for my marketing management leh! still not good enough??hehehe....anyway, i was too tired back then (u called me when i was sleeping! rclxub.gif ), and there was another assignment that needs to be done. so not much time to amend it...hehe....

DBA is too early for me to think right now....i need to build up my career first before anything else right now.....no point going for a DBA but couldn't afford it.....and this MBA course is already tiring enough for me....no time to think of a DBA.....hehe.......

yeah...i still have 1 year to go...i'll slave through this year and give my self a study break for of at least 10 years....hahaha.......been studying since 4 years old.....studied for 20 years already....time to stop for a while....hehe......

BTW, SEGI USQ MBA PART 1 assignment for sale...B+ to A material...PM me for details.....hahaha......not letting tinkerbel get all the profit here.....hehe...
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Appreciate that I took the initiative to call to check on the assignment despite my super bz scheduled !! LoL tongue.gif laugh.gif

In terms of ROI I too find the DBA not worth pursuing but well, as Maslow puts it - it's just self actualisation to some people *grins* biggrin.gif The money, time and effort put it if put in a business might be more profitable *grins* smile.gif And I wouldn't need to start a biz writing assignments for people *oopSs?!* rolleyes.gif hAHahAHhaHAHa...

Good Luck with the remaining Year - and remember.. whatever u do, do NOT defer `k?
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Thanks for your sharing. So, any 'references' for me on FM?


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Any 'references' I can get from you? Have mercy on me... Don't charge me now... Now you are contribution to the capital growth of the country and result better future GDP. (econ craps) =)
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@SincerePrayer,
If u need help, just send me a PM and we'll get in touch but i'm sure u'll be fine smile.gif You can also refer and check with lokgotz - he is afterall ur Senior smile.gif

And, the cycle towards a better GDP would need to involve payment from all parties *grins* smile.gif

Know how to evaluate an organisation's financial standings, as in what u need to look at and why u look into those areas, etc etc.

My last tip to you is to go through ur notes or the subject before class so that you can ask questions during class - an MBA class shouldn't be done where you're taught the theories and not discuss it in a real world setting [alas, that's how most local MBAs are conducted! *sigh*]
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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 21 2007, 10:54 PM)
isnt MBS MBA programmes catered mainly for engineers and finance professionals...it is not a general MBA. easier to get in...
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yipee, i'm on my way to start my mba course

the GMAT test is horrible, it takes me 1 month to prepare
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one mth is considered short edi lor.....gmat.com and businessweek advice to prepare 3 months ahead leh...

how do u fair?? i did twice coz the 1st one sucks.....

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@lokgotz,
Appreciate that I took the initiative to call to check on the assignment despite my super bz scheduled !! LoL  tongue.gif  laugh.gif

In terms of ROI I too find the DBA not worth pursuing but well, as Maslow puts it - it's just self actualisation to some people *grins*  biggrin.gif  The money, time and effort put it if put in a business might be more profitable *grins*  smile.gif  And I wouldn't need to start a biz writing assignments for people *oopSs?!*  rolleyes.gif hAHahAHhaHAHa...

Good Luck with the remaining Year - and remember.. whatever u do, do NOT defer `k?
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not planning to defer...i wanted to last semester because i just could go to college.....back problems...i couldnt even walk, stand, sit, sleep at one point....but i went through that and i am feeling a lot better now (health terms)....so i wont be deferring....unless my back acts up again....

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Thanks for your sharing. So, any 'references' for me on FM?

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@SincerePrayer,
If u need help, just send me a PM and we'll get in touch but i'm sure u'll be fine smile.gif  You can also refer and check with lokgotz - he is afterall ur Senior smile.gif

And, the cycle towards a better GDP would need to involve payment from all parties *grins*  smile.gif

Know how to evaluate an organisation's financial standings, as in what u need to look at and why u look into those areas, etc etc. 

My last tip to you is to go through ur notes or the subject before class so that you can ask questions during class - an MBA class shouldn't be done where you're taught the theories and not discuss it in a real world setting [alas, that's how most local MBAs are conducted! *sigh*]
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yeah...i am your senior and i am suppose to help u......if it's within my power lah....hehe.....
anyway, what tinkerbel said was right...go through the notes before you go to class....even if you dont understand them, at least you've read through it and know what the lecturer is talking about.....

go through the stuff again after each lectures and if you still dont understand, go to the lecturer. Most lecturers offer a one to one session on their free time at the college.....

The students in malaysia are not the outgoing type when it comes to studies...so you'll be expecting the lectures to be "lecturer talk, students listen"..however, there are a few out spoken ones....so listen to what they say....usually they'll relate it to real world settings...

the example given by the lecturers to explain a theory will also be a real world setting where he'll use something that just happened with a company to relate to the theory...like when Genting splitted it's stocks into 5 smaller stocks and why are they doing that, what is the outcome and something like that....

as i've said, just PM me if u need my help...i'll do whatever i can to help...heheh.......then u owe me a meal!
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im planning to take mba at sunway instead segi....early nexy year intake..
betwn can u pm me some sample of MBA stuff like assignment & etc...
got any preparation i need to do???now i trying to read magazine & some management book to gain some idea......

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im planning to take mba at sunway instead segi....early nexy year intake..
betwn can u pm me some sample of MBA stuff like assignment & etc...
got any preparation i need to do???now i trying to read magazine & some management book to gain some idea......
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u mean MBS MBA??
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not afford for MBS....im taking the Victoria MBA...
or shud i still consider SEGI?

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not afford for MBS....im taking the Victoria MBA...
or shud i still consider SEGI?
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hi...depends wat u wan from ur MBA. Like me, I plan to go UK. Dat's why i took a UK MBA. I hv frens taking Aust MBA coz they plan to go der.

If u jz need it for extra knowledge, then local MBA is good enough. tongue.gif

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If I could afford it, I'll like to go for Kellogg's MBA !! *grins*
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i already did my degree in UK & spend there for abt 3 years...
now my concern is to gain knowledge & do locally will sufficient.
Betwn i just would like to know whether SEGI or sunway will give better learning or etc???Even both is offering australia course
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If I could afford it, I'll like to go for Kellogg's MBA !! *grins*
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The question is whether or not you can get in in the first place tongue.gif
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@DerekKuah,
Other than looking at their course structure, u should request and ask if u can sit in on one of their classes. Refer to the enrolment statistics and check if there are more local students or foreign students enrolled in the program. It's also good to check the average age [to determine rough est of average years worked] of ur classmates.

@tishaban,
Where there is a will, there is a way tongue.gif ! WooOhOoO And if I had to use MY own moo-lah, I'll very much rather tag along with you. Or just need to convince YOUR friend to let me haf the other room 2 streets from the Uni! LoL..... Speaking of which, how's ur preparations for GMAT coming along?

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thats what i heard that segi more above age ppl study compare to sunway(more younger age)....u know what i mean....
the other things is the fees differencess...sunway is 35k...segi only 28k.....can this difference justify for sunway is better?
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@DerekKuah,
Go find out the coming intake's enrolment - it will be better and more helpful if u have more people with working experience than no work experience. In terms of ranking of uni, well, uhm.... I think VUT is ranked lower *shrugs*

Normally there's a good reason for the difference in cost but in this instance, could it be because Sunway's more 'reknowned' (for now) than SeGi hence decided to charge a premium? Unless the course structure is v different and that Sunway's VUT MBA flies their facilitators in from AU *shrugs*

You need to find out.. I think we've given u sufficient guidelines smile.gif
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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Oct 9 2007, 06:38 PM)
thats what i heard that segi more above age ppl study compare to sunway(more younger age)....u know what i mean....
the other things is the fees differencess...sunway is 35k...segi only 28k.....can this difference justify for sunway is better?
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RM28K?
i think the price increased already since beginning of this year.....for Segi MBA (USQ)........It's now RM32K

unless u are talking about University of Sunderland, Australia (not england) by segi.....then i'm not too sure about the fees.....could be cheaper me thinks....
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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Oct 9 2007, 06:38 PM)
thats what i heard that segi more above age ppl study compare to sunway(more younger age)....u know what i mean....
the other things is the fees differencess...sunway is 35k...segi only 28k.....can this difference justify for sunway is better?
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like dat ah?? MBS is the best edi lor..... tongue.gif

coz mostly (me not included) higher mgmt ppl only can afford.....kakakkakak
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@Melon,
Actually, if u look according to the ranks, the MBS MBA is pretty damn good *grins* Also, If i'm not mistaken, though the course is done locally, the lecturers/facilitators are flown in from MBS - that's definitely a reason for the high school fees.

Nottingham's MBA is not too bad either but i dont' think it can top MBS's ranking smile.gif Hence this isn't a good example to quote. Maybe can say Vertu phones are really expensive [it may not be the most expensive *shrugs*] but that doesn't mean it's the best *grinz* biggrin.gif
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It is true that MBS has a much higher rank for its MBA programmes than Nottingham. But not only is it more expensive than the NUBS MBA, it has an age requirement which is 27 and it takes approx 2 1/2 yrs to 3 yrs to complete as compared to the one year full time at NUBS! Even for ppl like me who can get exemptions, it will take a minimum of 2 years!

And obviously, i reckon it may be harder to get in! And if it matters, NUBS offers a general MBA along with specialized MBA programmes for finance pros tho not for engineering pros i think!
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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Oct 10 2007, 05:51 AM)
It is true that MBS has a much higher rank for its MBA programmes than Nottingham. But not only is it more expensive than the NUBS MBA, it has an age requirement which is 27 and it takes approx 2 1/2 yrs to 3 yrs to complete as compared to the one year full time at NUBS! Even for ppl like me who can get exemptions, it will take a minimum of 2 years!

And obviously, i reckon it may be harder to get in! And if it matters, NUBS offers a general MBA along with specialized MBA programmes for finance pros tho not for engineering pros i think!
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The age and working experience requirements actually are good things. Coz MBA is about sharing and applying real life business into the theory.

I can share some of the case studies we've done so far. This sem I took Marketing Strategy, International Business and Business Info System (1/2 module; meaning this sem do half only lor, heheh).

MS - We studied Virgin (Richard Branson one), Marks & Spencer, McD during workshops by fly in lecturer. Done 2 assignments edi. All are based on application of mktg thingy in business world (yup, need to apply to an organisation u r familiar with)

International Business - workshop early Nov. So far, 1st assignment is based on case studies for Timken (US company). We need to recommend whether Timken shud entry into European mkt.

BIS - 1 assignment this sem. Based on Carr's critism and write about Web 2.0 technology in an organisation. (Frankly, none of my IT frens heard this before. Luckily I found a web programmer from my company dat is able to shed some light. 2500 - 3000 words)

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p/s: u need to read businessweek, financial times, economics thumbup.gif

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wow....it's totally different from Segi's MBA...yours sounded more professional...heheh...i guess that's y there is a Rm70k difference...hehe...
we have flown in lecturers in part 2, not part 1..

My Marketing management (should be the same as your MS) is just a marketing plan for an imaginary company..(thanks tinkerbel.. notworthy.gif )...but we do have case studies on McD, Air Asia, Walmart and some other companies..

IB: Assignment is not based on any company but we have to invest in a foreign company, also create an imaginary company, evaluate the GDP, FDI of the country, various ways to invest and something like that (I got an A rclxm9.gif whistling.gif ...hehehe)

QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 10 2007, 08:55 AM)
BIS - 1 assignment this sem. Based on Carr's critism and write about Web 2.0 technology in an organisation. (Frankly, none of my IT frens heard this before. Luckily I found a web programmer from my company dat is able to shed some light. 2500 - 3000 words)

Cheers biggrin.gif

p/s: u need to read businessweek, financial times, economics thumbup.gif
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I did my business computing(that's what they called it in segi, i think now changed to business systems or something like that, but basically everything is the same) on Nicholass Carr's critism as well....

Do you have "IT Doesn't Matter" (i assume you are doing this critism, since it's the more famous one from Carr). To buy it from HBR is USD7, but you could get it free from Carr's Blog, just click the next part to read more.....The only difference from the one in his blog and the one being sold is that the one being sold includes the replies from other people to the article...quite a nice read as well...

Anyway, I did about 3k words on that...let me know if you want to "refer" to my assignments....I think i bout a B for that...cant really remember..hahah.... notworthy.gif

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When you guys/girls started your MBA, do you have any business backgrounds at hand, i.e. a degree in business studies, accounting etc?

I am wondering how hard would it be for a non-business degree holder, i.e. engineer, programmer etc to cope up with lectures in MBA..
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wow....it's totally different from Segi's MBA...yours sounded more professional...heheh...i guess that's y there is a Rm70k difference...hehe...
we have flown in lecturers in part 2, not part 1..

My Marketing management (should be the same as your MS) is just a marketing plan for an imaginary company..(thanks tinkerbel.. notworthy.gif )...but we do have case studies on McD, Air Asia, Walmart and some other companies..

IB: Assignment is not based on any company but we have to invest in a foreign company, also create an imaginary company, evaluate the GDP, FDI of the country, various ways to invest and something like that (I got an A rclxm9.gif whistling.gif ...hehehe)
I did my business computing(that's what they called it in segi, i think now changed to business systems or something like that, but basically everything is the same) on Nicholass Carr's critism as well....

Do you have "IT Doesn't Matter" (i assume you are doing this critism, since it's the more famous one from Carr). To buy it from HBR is USD7, but you could get it free from Carr's Blog, just click the next part to read more.....The only difference from the one in his blog and the one being sold is that the one being sold includes the replies from other people to the article...quite a nice read as well...

Anyway, I did about 3k words on that...let me know if you want to "refer" to my assignments....I think i bout a B for that...cant really remember..hahah.... notworthy.gif
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wow...urs is on Web 2.0 as well?? same critism....sigh, dunno y this fella create such a controversial issue..... rclxub.gif

u hv very good marks der......for MS, the highest marks for M'sia team is only 64 (not me) and IB, globally top is only 76 (m'sia top is 70) sweat.gif

on average, globally only scored ard 60 marks shocking.gif


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When you guys/girls started your MBA, do you have any business backgrounds at hand, i.e. a degree in business studies, accounting etc?

I am wondering how hard would it be for a non-business degree holder, i.e. engineer, programmer etc to cope up with lectures in MBA..
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i'm a degree holder in biz....taking engineering for biz managers (naming convention only, actually the core modules are less finance only....hehehehe). So, u can see dat many of my team mates r engineering background.....and so far they r coping well tongue.gif

IMO, i dun think der's any difference with the degree background as we r all infants in MBA laugh.gif laugh.gif (maybe i was from local degree punya pasal kua)

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I don't think the degree matters when you take the MBA, what matters is the experience you bring to the table.

Experience in engineering, development etc. can be very useful as well from a process & procedures point of view or to better understand the R&D or manufacturing side etc.

Personally I think what makes a difference is that you know your own stuff well and know how to communicate well.

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QUOTE(goliath @ Oct 10 2007, 10:23 AM)
When you guys/girls started your MBA, do you have any business backgrounds at hand, i.e. a degree in business studies, accounting etc?

I am wondering how hard would it be for a non-business degree holder, i.e. engineer, programmer etc to cope up with lectures in MBA..
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I had a computer science degree and 2 years working experience....

QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 10 2007, 10:24 AM)
wow...urs is on Web 2.0 as well?? same critism....sigh, dunno y this fella create such a controversial issue..... rclxub.gif

u hv very good marks der......for MS, the highest marks for M'sia team is only 64 (not me) and IB, globally top is only 76  (m'sia top is 70) sweat.gif

on average, globally only scored ard 60 marks  shocking.gif

IMO, i dun think der's any difference with the degree background as we r all infants in MBA  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  (maybe i was from local degree punya pasal kua)
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my marks are not high...it's just that the marking standards are different from markers to markers...hehhe....

My Business Computing was based on "IT doesn't matter" and "IT still doesn't matter". nothing on web 2.0....or maybe i missed it out..heheh.....
he creates a lot of critism....and being an IT student, the subject is hard....my whole life i've been doing computing, this fella comes in and says it doesn't matter doh.gif hehehhe....

QUOTE(tishaban @ Oct 10 2007, 11:13 AM)
I don't think the degree matters when you take the MBA, what matters is the experience you bring to the table.

Experience in engineering, development etc. can be very useful as well from a process & procedures point of view or to better understand the R&D or manufacturing side etc.

Personally I think what makes a difference is that you know your own stuff well and know how to communicate well.
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the degree doesnt matter....as long as u have a degree.....and what tishaban said is right...it's the experience that you bring to the table.....
some MBAs dont even need a degree as prerequisite....as long as u have years and years of experice, they'll accept you.

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for me i only concern like us is from eng backgound(technical) & take mBa will be difficult to cope oni...so like managment term....finance, marketing...blaa blaa....all i know abt marketing is 4p....but i heard now got 5p's.....i had look into those 12 module...i been working in production line(operation) & now into project management....so i believe some module i would face difficult to understand or cope...but for finance, IT, human resource...i doubt lehh?
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for me i only concern like us is from eng backgound(technical) & take mBa will be difficult to cope oni...so like managment term....finance, marketing...blaa blaa....all i know abt marketing is 4p....but i heard now got 5p's.....i had look into those 12 module...i been working in production line(operation) & now into project management....so i believe some module i would face difficult to understand or cope...but for finance, IT, human resource...i doubt lehh?
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refer to my post 365 above.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(goliath @ Oct 10 2007, 10:23 AM)
When you guys/girls started your MBA, do you have any business backgrounds at hand, i.e. a degree in business studies, accounting etc?

I am wondering how hard would it be for a non-business degree holder, i.e. engineer, programmer etc to cope up with lectures in MBA..
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For me, I don't have any biz bg. However, I have years of working experience.
FYI, I'm just an Advanced Diploma holder. Not even a degree. whistling.gif


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I want dig all references from you and milk you dry. Only after that, will buy you a lunch at mamak stall. icon_rolleyes.gif

Just kidding lar... I'm not typical China-man boss. cool2.gif

Will PM you my email...



@lokgotz & @tinkerbel

Actually prior the class starts, I always pre-read few chapters. Within 24 hours after the class, I will do a quick revision. In order to strengthen my memory, I am planning to do the mind mapping to summarize the lessons.

So, tinkerbel, any you have any assignments for my reference? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 10 2007, 08:55 AM)
The age and working experience requirements actually are good things. Coz MBA is about sharing and applying real life business into the theory.

I can share some of the case studies we've done so far. This sem I took Marketing Strategy, International Business and Business Info System (1/2 module; meaning this sem do half only lor, heheh).

MS - We studied Virgin (Richard Branson one), Marks & Spencer, McD during workshops by fly in lecturer. Done 2 assignments edi. All are based on application of mktg thingy in business world (yup, need to apply to an organisation u r familiar with)

International Business - workshop early Nov. So far, 1st assignment is based on case studies for Timken (US company). We need to recommend whether Timken shud entry into European mkt.

BIS - 1 assignment this sem. Based on Carr's critism and write about Web 2.0 technology in an organisation. (Frankly, none of my IT frens heard this before. Luckily I found a web programmer from my company dat is able to shed some light. 2500 - 3000 words)

Cheers biggrin.gif

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yea..i agree with u...the experience and diversity is important in a mba programme...allows u to mingle with ppl from various walks of life and career backgrounds!! I just highlighted the age thing coz im personally trying to get out of this country asap...and no. of years is imp to me...faster the better!! :-) besides, was just highlighting some differences...and thanks for the insight into ur program!

Cheers baq biggrin.gif
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For me, I don't have any biz bg. However, I have years of working experience.
FYI, I'm just an Advanced Diploma holder. Not even a degree.  whistling.gif
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I want dig all references from you and milk you dry. Only after that, will buy you a lunch at mamak stall.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Just kidding lar... I'm not typical China-man boss.  cool2.gif

Will PM you my email...
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Actually prior the class starts, I always pre-read few chapters. Within 24 hours after the class, I will do a quick revision. In order to strengthen my memory, I am planning to do the mind mapping to summarize the lessons.

So, tinkerbel, any you have any assignments for my reference?  biggrin.gif
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mind mapping never work for me....i dunno y.....but it's a good way to understand a subject...hehe....
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@alsree786,
I tend to agree with Melon that it is a good thing when a Uni takes into account age and work experience available. With that, generally, the Uni can be sure that one would have at least X years of work experience, and is mature. It is also probably true that each candidate is looked at on a case-to-case basis hence if you really are short of 1-2 years in age but have very strong credentials and sufficient work experience, u may just get into the program. You may need to go through an oral interview and excel in that too - it's really up to you to convince the Uni.

I'm pretty sure NUBS (Nottingham Uni) too has an age requirement. I don't know how many specialised areas been made available at NU but if you're looking at going into a specialised area, you should only consider Uni's with that offering. MBS is relatively new (heck it's NEW!) hence a possible reason why the current MBAs are skewed to Engineering/non Business graduates *shrugs* - it could be a 'marketing' problem [damn, who am I to tell Sunway/MBS they've got a marketing problem?] Perhaps it's only because facilitators at MBS spends a little bit more time explaining the academic/theoretical part before discussions are made to bring in the practical applications from the case studies.

At the end of the day, an MBA is an MBA - i don't believe there MBS MBA will state distinctively that it's an MBA pursued by Engineers/non Business degree holders, etc. smile.gif

There are also pros and cons to pursuing your MBA on full time basis. Most practitioners will not be able to take time off 1 years work unless sabbatical leave can be granted and IMO that's unlikely to happen. I also believe the NU full time MBA is an 'accelerated' program hence it won't be practical for you to work and study simultaneously.

I can understand your concern & frustration of the prolonged completion even with the exemptions you have - that's probably because there's currently 1 intake at MBS and you'll have to mix your subjects and wait till the subject becomes available - this may not be a problem at NU as there's few ongoing intakes which you can join.

At the end of the day, whether you pick the MBS/NU MBA, both are reputable and are good in terms of the learning age smile.gif Go for NU if u've decided to nod.gif


@Melon,
It sure looks interesting - and I would really like to be part of the case study discussions but ah well, I'm not gonna fork out RM98k for it *grinz* I still think it's these discussions where one can learn the most from and that's what makes a good and not so good MBA.

Don't be surprised majority of case studies discussed be UK/EU based as that would be 'local' to your facilitators *grins* blush.gif

So, haf u subscribed to those publications mentioned? Wanna share passwords with me? *grins*

@lokgotz,
Knowing how some of the schools operate and market themselves, I'm pretty sure you won't have 100% flown in lecturers/facilitators but well, just learn whatever you can learn and importantly, contribute and keep discussions alive [do not speak for the sake of speaking!]

@goliath/DerekKuah,
Your question's been well answered above. You shouldn't need to worry about coming from a non business background. You just have to work harder than them [they would have the fundamental basics of the academic theories and it will be a refresher course to them - to u, it's something new but it's not all that difficult to understand]

Er.. the 5th P is People. And there's also a 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th and 14th too!! Just don't ask me what it is. I came across this reference book by CIM (UK) when I was doing my MBA and all I remember reading was the 14Ps [I should've taken note of it all but I didn't - sorrEeee!]. To me, it's just going back to the basic and knowing the fundamentals - everything else is interlinked, trust me!

@tishaban,
rclxms.gif Well said !!

@SincerePrayer,
No one said u needed a degree in order to pursue an MBA *grins* Am sure if Lim Goh Tong wanted to start chasing his academic papers today, he would very much qualify to do an MBA and yet be given exemptions! Then again, if I were him I wouldn't go back to school!! hAHahAHahAH laugh.gif

I don't think the assignments would be the same but feel free to drop me a PM if u are looking for someone to help with your discussions. Good Luck! smile.gif
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How about local Uni like UUM and UKM........how is the requirements???? Dicided to further studies in Art Managment, Masters in Arts in Unimas........MBA i think college is betterla..... smile.gif smile.gif
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@JoyLuvz,
Art Management? What's the course syllabus like? And what is taught? I doesn't sound v much like a Business degree to me. A non MBA degree skewed towards biz would be MA (Business) or something like that or it can be MBus (Management/Marketing/Finance) or perhaps maybe even MComm.

At the end of the day, don't be fooled by the title - check out the course syllabus so u know exactly what you're going into. What you perceive and the actual course may be totally different smile.gif
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How about local Uni like UUM and UKM........how is the requirements???? Dicided to further studies in Art Managment, Masters in Arts in Unimas........MBA i think college is betterla..... smile.gif  smile.gif
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@aicilef,
Course fees might be a bit lower (I'm not too sure since I haven't done an actual comparison) but it's also important to check out its panel of facilitators too.

If my memory doesn't fail me, UPM used to have a not too bad MBA program which is affiliated to a foreign university. Check it out and if you can find an alumni website go ahead and email one of them to ask for clarification and more information smile.gif
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how about UKM n UM ?
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My bro was from UM. Same thing as he did his degree. Nothing interesting sweat.gif
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If UM hasn't changed its course syllabus from the time I did my research, their MBA's just too academic - I wouldn't recommend it.

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hihi, may i ask what is MBS ? @@

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Are you taking MBA in Nottingham Malaysia?
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hihi, may i ask what is MBS ? @@

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Are you taking MBA in Nottingham Malaysia?
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i'm taking MBS (Manchester Business School) MBA at Sunway U.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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o. Is MBS good ? O_o ...
Im currently taking E&E engineering but I plan to take master in business to widen my prospects and knowledge. I read some of the previous posts and found out that many ppl who's taking MBA come from engineering background and they have no problem coping it. Im elated to know that because I have the same doubt too.

Anyway, I want to ask about the MBA at Sunway U. Is the whole course being conducted in Malaysia? How long is the duration if Im from engineering background. How much are you paying for the whole course?
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@yewkhuay,
If UM hasn't changed its course syllabus from the time I did my research, their MBA's just too academic - I wouldn't recommend it.
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@jasperng,
Is it not a little too early for u to be looking at current available MBA options? Also, your answers been answered in detail throughout this entire MBA discussion.

You would also be able to get the information about the MBS MBA from their website if you can't get it here.

@yewkhuay,
It very much depends on what you're looking for in an MBA - also, is geographical location an issue? *grins* And what about whether it's a f/time or p/time course?
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@jasperng,
Is it not a little too early for u to be looking at current available MBA options?  Also, your answers been answered in detail throughout this entire MBA discussion.

You would also be able to get the information about the MBS MBA from their website if you can't get it here.

@yewkhuay,
It very much depends on what you're looking for in an MBA - also, is geographical location an issue? *grins*  And what about whether it's a f/time or p/time course?
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can i take it part time n convert full time when i m available ? how i wish i can do it oversea fulltime but my life i tied with many things for now...hai... sad.gif
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It depends on the course structure. U might be left with a lot of time if u took a p/time MBA and did it full time and vice versa.


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QUOTE(jasperng @ Oct 17 2007, 12:03 PM)
o. Is MBS good ? O_o ...
Im currently taking E&E engineering but I plan to take master in business to widen my prospects and knowledge. I read some of the previous posts and found out that many ppl who's taking MBA come from engineering background and they have no problem coping it. Im elated to know that because I have the same doubt too.

Anyway, I want to ask about the MBA at Sunway U. Is the whole course being conducted in Malaysia? How long is the duration if Im from engineering background. How much are you paying for the whole course?
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u mean MBS, rite?? coz Sunway U is jz a place for us to attend our workshops/tutorials/exams. Everything else are from UK. I have written a fair bit of wat we've done so far in this semester in previous posts.

Shud you need more info, u can PM me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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u mean MBS, rite?? coz Sunway U is jz a place for us to attend our workshops/tutorials/exams. Everything else are from UK. I have written a fair bit of wat we've done so far in this semester in previous posts.

Shud you need more info, u can PM me.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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That means the whole course is in Malaysia? do you go to UK for the final year or something ? @@ I wish to go UK to get it ^^
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That means the whole course is in Malaysia? do you go to UK for the final year or something ? @@ I wish to go UK to get it ^^
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if u hv the budget, u can attend the workshops at other countries ard the world.

I plan to attend one in UK when i hv the budget.... brows.gif brows.gif

Workshops are done 100% via UK lecturers. This MBS MBA has 3/4 contact hours as compared to its fulltime version.

However, due to its pricey fees, not many ppl can afford. sweat.gif
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For me, if affortable... I won't stay in Malaysia!
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Why does it take one year to finish a UK based MBA, while many US based MBA programs take two years to finish?

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Why does it take one year to finish a UK based MBA, while many US based MBA programs take two years to finish?
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Most of UK MBA are 1 year coz it's an intensive one. More classes per week whereas US (as usual) take things slowly and they actually have summer break, so 1 year is actually 9 mths of studies..... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 17 2007, 03:41 PM)
if u hv the budget, u can attend the workshops at other countries ard the world.

I plan to attend one in UK when i hv the budget.... brows.gif  brows.gif

Workshops are done 100% via UK lecturers. This MBS MBA has 3/4 contact hours as compared to its fulltime version.

However, due to its pricey fees, not many ppl can afford.  sweat.gif
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what do you mean by that statement ? 3/4 contact hours meaning lecturer hours ?

How many students in your badge currently ? @@

and why do you use the term "workshop" instead of "subject"? So, you are saying that I can take few workshops at UK ?
Is the fulltime version only available in UK ?
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QUOTE(jasperng @ Oct 18 2007, 01:43 PM)
what do you mean by that statement ? 3/4 contact hours meaning lecturer hours ?

How many students in your badge currently ? @@

and why do you use the term "workshop" instead of "subject"? So, you are saying that I can take few workshops at UK ?
Is the fulltime version only available in UK ?
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err....r u really 1984?? coz the min age requirement is 26/27 years old.......

we call it module....every module will has a workshop which consists of 3 full days.

of coz fulltime is only in UK. MBS fulltime will be 18mths; 12mths in classes; 3 mths internship, and 3 mths student exchange wif other B-School.
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Does anyone know any MBA which is conducted during weekends? I travel overseas at least once a month during weekdays, so weekends are my only options.

I've been to some previews - Nottingham, Strathclyde (CDC) & UOB (Unity College) and it seems that CDC is the only one which conducts the classes on weekends.

Any advice?

Thanks.
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Does anyone know any MBA which is conducted during weekends? I travel overseas at least once a month during weekdays, so weekends are my only options.

I've been to some previews - Nottingham, Strathclyde (CDC) & UOB (Unity College) and it seems that CDC is the only one which conducts the classes on weekends.

Any advice?

Thanks.
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well, u can consider MBS if u hv the budget as its schedule is quite flexible. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 18 2007, 11:07 AM)
Most of UK MBA are 1 year coz it's an intensive one. More classes per week whereas US (as usual) take things slowly and they actually have summer break, so 1 year is actually 9 mths of studies..... tongue.gif
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I doubt that top US MBA programs are slower paced than the top UK MBA programs, yet even with summer breaks you're studying for 18 months in the US and only 12 months in the UK. Is it worth spending the extra time? Do you learn anything more? I can't really tell by looking just at the syllabus, but it seems as if there are far more elective courses in the US MBA programs.

I'm leaning more towards the UK MBA programs simply because they're cheaper biggrin.gif

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I doubt that top US MBA programs are slower paced than the top UK MBA programs, yet even with summer breaks you're studying for 18 months in the US and only 12 months in the UK. Is it worth spending the extra time? Do you learn anything more? I can't really tell by looking just at the syllabus, but it seems as if there are far more elective courses in the US MBA programs.

I'm leaning more towards the UK MBA programs simply because they're cheaper biggrin.gif
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well, dat's as per my own finding la when i apply to the fulltime mba last year end....my samples are LBS (most expensive in UK and not any cheaper than US), Oxford, Cambridge, MBS, Ross B-School, Uni of Chicago, Berkeley.


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Well,

Company is offering an "Executive MBA" - it's an 18 month program (weekend classes) followed by 18 months bonding (so total 3 years, lah) - and at the end of the program you get an Executive MBA cert and International Diploma in Management, awarded by University of Cambridge Int'l Examinations UK.

Now ... what the heck is the difference between Executive MBA and the "regular" MBA? As far as future employers are concerned would there be any difference? Also, this "University of Cambridge Int'l Examinations UK" <-- I bet it doesn't have anywhere near the same "power" as an actual Cambridge paper, but then is this like some lousy thing that isn't even accredited by anybody, or is it worth a shot for trying to get into this program?
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Well,

Company is offering an "Executive MBA" - it's an 18 month program (weekend classes) followed by 18 months bonding (so total 3 years, lah) - and at the end of the program you get an Executive MBA cert and International Diploma in Management, awarded by University of Cambridge Int'l Examinations UK.

Now ... what the heck is the difference between Executive MBA and the "regular" MBA? As far as future employers are concerned would there be any difference? Also, this "University of Cambridge Int'l Examinations UK" <-- I bet it doesn't have anywhere near the same "power" as an actual Cambridge paper, but then is this like some lousy thing that isn't even accredited by anybody, or is it worth a shot for trying to get into this program?
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exec MBA is meant for working professionals (means part time) whereby the 'normal' MBA is meant for fulltime student.

Fulltime MBA from Cambridge is offered by Judge B-School and is accredited by Association of MBAs and EQUIS.

You might need to check wat's the accreditation from this one (not from Judge??)

good luck biggrin.gif
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how exactly did u get the idea that an executive MBA is meant for working professionals while the 'normal' MBA is meant for fulltime students?

To qualify for admission into a MBA program, one needs to be a working professional anyways, and I've yet to see a 'normal' MBA program that enforces those who's admitted into it to do it full time.
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Actually there are part time MBAs and executive MBAs as well. Both are done while you keep your full time job.

I haven't figured out the difference myself. biggrin.gif

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Some questions:
1) Does it matter if an MBA is not accredited by LAN?
2) Does it really matter where your MBA comes from (Oxford, Nottingham, Entrepreneur Institute of Australia (EIA), Uni. Southern Queensland, etc)

I am really thinking on embarking on the 12-mth MBA program offered by EIA (RM28k) - Entreprenuerial MBA.
Its a once a month 2 weekend and 1 weekday night class (Monday or Friday). 3 weeks later, hand up assessment and the next day, sit for exam. Then it goes again for the remaining 11 modules. All in 12 modules...one module a month.

It's very suitable for my lifestyle. Once a month weekend class and you have 3 other weekends quality time with family! And finish in 1 year!
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It depends on where you aim your employer to be actually. Some really don't care much about especially chinaman companies, some like BAT, consulting firms requires you to be in the top MBA universities.

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how exactly did u get the idea that an executive MBA is meant for working professionals while the 'normal' MBA is meant for fulltime students?

To qualify for admission into a MBA program, one needs to be a working professional anyways, and I've yet to see a 'normal' MBA program that enforces those who's admitted into it to do it full time.
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Oct 22 2007, 08:07 PM)
Actually there are part time MBAs and executive MBAs as well. Both are done while you keep your full time job.

I haven't figured out the difference myself. biggrin.gif
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It depends on the b-school. Some r jz naming convention wif the same modules.

Some executive MBAs hv less modules as compared to the part time ones.

Der r even some b-schools called it Modular MBA. rclxub.gif

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Some questions:
1) Does it matter if an MBA is not accredited by LAN?
2) Does it really matter where your MBA comes from (Oxford, Nottingham, Entrepreneur Institute of Australia (EIA), Uni. Southern Queensland, etc)

I am really thinking on embarking on the 12-mth MBA program offered by EIA (RM28k) - Entreprenuerial MBA.
Its a once a month 2 weekend and 1 weekday night class (Monday or Friday). 3 weeks later, hand up assessment and the next day, sit for exam. Then it goes again for the remaining 11 modules. All in 12 modules...one module a month.

It's very suitable for my lifestyle. Once a month weekend class and you have 3 other weekends quality time with family! And finish in 1 year!
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Out of M'sia context and oso as per my findings, unless the b-school is in Top 30 of the ranking, otherwise it won't make much difference. If u r in UK, u use FT.com's ranking. If u r in US, u use businessweek/eiu's ranking.


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It depends on where you aim your employer to be actually. Some really don't care much about especially chinaman companies, some like BAT, consulting firms requires you to be in the top MBA universities.
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Does anyone know any MBA which is conducted during weekends? I travel overseas at least once a month during weekdays, so weekends are my only options.

I've been to some previews - Nottingham, Strathclyde (CDC) & UOB (Unity College) and it seems that CDC is the only one which conducts the classes on weekends.

Any advice?

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University of Southern Queensland, offered by Segi College conducts MBA classes during weekends.

Just called my program coordinator and I passed my exams!

MBA year 2, here I come! hehehe
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Oct 23 2007, 09:23 PM)
University of Southern Queensland, offered by Segi College conducts MBA classes during weekends.

Just called my program coordinator and I passed my exams!

MBA year 2, here I come! hehehe
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Congratz!!!! thumbup.gif

I'm going to hv my 1st sem exam end Nov sweat.gif
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Melon, do you know what ranking should i refer for engineering in UK ? izzit also www.ft.com ?

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At the rate MBAs are marketed these days, every tom d*** and harry will have an MBA in no time.
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err....agree partially.....dat's why get one from reputable B-school thumbup.gif


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Melon, do you know what ranking should i refer for engineering in UK ? izzit also www.ft.com ?
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u mean Masters in Engineering???

err....i'm not sure lerr.....ft and bw are mainly for biz news.....

oso not sure whether der's a ranking.....try to google it......

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Hi Melon,

How do you justified yourself to study such an expensive MBA course like MBS?
Since any Tom Dcik & Harry can get easily get an MBA nowadays, so MBS may not be any special MBA.

Lets make an assumption:
A person study MBS and B person study MBA in B-Grade Uni.

A person scored an average result and B person scored an outstanding result. Thus, do you think B person is better than A person?
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IMO

it is the prestige that is attached to any qualification that counts...malaysia is not a meritocracy, imo, at all...so thats why i figure that only the bigger organizations, especially foreign companies that will definitely prefer a more reknowned qualification even if ur marks are lower, so as long as u satisfy a certain requirement (i.e. u dun need to be an outstanding scorer)...on your business card...it makes a difference if it says Manchester to a local University MBA....

Furthermore, MBA programmes are also about development, and mingling with fellow professionals from differing industries...it would then also matter where u studied...and most HRM shud, IMO, know their stuff when it comes to education essentials....

e.g. i would prefer to be a second lower honours student from Oxford anyday, over a second upper student from leeds or cardiff uni...Coz whatever it is, no one except your interviewer will ask u what honours u got, but to the world at large, you're in the Oxford Alumni...
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Hi Melon,

How do you justified yourself to study such an expensive MBA course like MBS?
Since any Tom Dcik & Harry can get easily get an MBA nowadays, so MBS may not be any special MBA.

Lets make an assumption:
A person study MBS and B person study MBA in B-Grade Uni.

A person scored an average result and B person scored an outstanding result. Thus, do you think B person is better than A person?
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You wanna know the history??

Here is my history. I applied Fulltime MBA initially. I was interviewed by Prof Kang of MBS UK. She was the director of fulltime MBA. I've gone thru all the necessary applications from taking GMAT (twice), IELTS, filing up all those application essays, irritating my references, then got rejected by LBS, dinged the interview by Oxford and finally got admitted by MBS in UK. Then was so hyper happy that at last all my hard work paid off. Still unable to fight thru my last step : financial assistance. Tried loans, any scholarships available for M'sians. So, end up taking the part time one in M'sia.

What u think?? Do u think i'm any T, D and H???

ANd for that question of yours, it is too vague. I suggest you to do a thorough research on your own via businessweek or mba.com or princetonreview.com


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IMO

it is the prestige that is attached to any qualification that counts...malaysia is not a meritocracy, imo, at all...so thats why i figure that only the bigger organizations, especially foreign companies that will definitely prefer a more reknowned qualification even if ur marks are lower, so as long as u satisfy a certain requirement (i.e. u dun need to be an outstanding scorer)...on your business card...it makes a difference if it says Manchester to a local University MBA....

Furthermore, MBA programmes are also about development, and mingling with fellow professionals from differing industries...it would then also matter where u studied...and most HRM shud, IMO, know their stuff when it comes to education essentials....

e.g. i would prefer to be a second lower honours student from Oxford anyday, over a second upper student from leeds or cardiff uni...Coz whatever it is, no one except your interviewer will ask u what honours u got, but to the world at large, you're in the Oxford Alumni...
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to add to the points above, it's always better to mingling ard Quality working professionals, if u know what i mean. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 26 2007, 10:24 AM)
You wanna know the history??

Here is my history. I applied Fulltime MBA initially. I was interviewed by Prof Kang of MBS UK. She was the director of fulltime MBA. I've gone thru all the necessary applications from taking GMAT (twice), IELTS, filing up all those application essays, irritating my references, then got rejected by LBS, dinged the interview by Oxford and finally got admitted by MBS in UK. Then was so hyper happy that at last all my hard work paid off. Still unable to fight thru my last step : financial assistance. Tried loans, any scholarships available for M'sians. So, end up taking the part time one in M'sia.

What u think?? Do u think i'm any T, D and H???

ANd for that question of yours, it is too vague. I suggest you to do a thorough research on your own via businessweek or mba.com or princetonreview.com


Added on October 26, 2007, 10:27 am

to add to the points above, it's always better to mingling ard Quality working professionals, if u know what i mean.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Well, I would say that you're neither T, D & H. But one thing I don't get it is why you still want to go for MBS when you have financial issue, whereby you can pursue other good MBA. e.g. University of Leicester, UK or University of Newcastle, Australia
You can still mingle around with quality working professionals when you pursue other good MBA course.

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Well, I would say that you're neither T, D & H. But one thing I don't get it is why you still want to go for MBS when you have financial issue, whereby you can pursue other good MBA. e.g.  University of Leicester, UK or  University of Newcastle, Australia
You can still mingle around with quality working professionals when you pursue other good MBA course.
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err...i thot i mentioned about ranking and my intention to go to UK in my previous posts??
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err...i thot i mentioned about ranking and my intention to go to UK in my previous posts??
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You can also go to UK when you study MBA twinning program with University of Leicester, UK.
Sorry for the miscommunication..
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Can anyone here confirm if there is any MBA fair coming up this 27/Nov? Been searching the paper for a few days and can't see any advert.

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Can anyone here confirm if there is any MBA fair coming up this 27/Nov?  Been searching the paper for a few days and can't see any advert.

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r u talking about the annual MBA tour by QS??

i attended last year one...u better quickly register yourself coz those B-schools do preselect for interview during that day.

www.topmba.com
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is that so important to choose the top MBA school?
Does comp in M'sia hire those who grad at top Uni MBA?

anyone can comment? i am doing MBA in local Uni only, now in 2nd sem, i got perfect result.
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is that so important to choose the top MBA school?
Does comp in M'sia hire those who grad at top Uni MBA?

anyone can comment? i am doing MBA in local Uni only, now in 2nd sem, i got perfect result.
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err...to be frank, getting a perfect result in local uni doesn't mean anything (sorry to say this). Foreign MBA is totally using a different approach. You may refer to my earlier posts.

Sadly, not a single local uni is listed in Top 200 THES listing this year.

as for employment in Msia...it does carry weight if you r looking for a global company.

anyway, since u r already in ur 2nd sem, der's nothing much u can do unless u wanna switch??
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I've heard many many many ppl talking about MBA nowadays,its really that good?
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"different approach"-mind to share what approach they're using?

If really does effect employment, i don't mind to be switch for the sake of future.

In current Uni,they are using teaching basis(like undergraduate) and problem basis teaching as well.


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"different approach"-mind to share what approach they're using?

If really does effect employment, i don't mind to be switch for the sake of future.

In current Uni,they are using teaching basis(like undergraduate) and problem basis teaching as well.
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pls refer to post #362. Some of the Australian MBAs also shared their experiences here.

As to update my post #362 (done my IBS workshop now):

We were assigned in groups (MBA also make us learn how to manage teamwork). Corning Glass cases (4/5 cases)were distributed during the workshops and we have to come out with the solutions within an hour for each case (plus completing the power point presentations). Some other smaller cases were ABB and Daewoo (also need to finish within an hour plus power point presentation). Some lectures were carried out as well. And my team scored 74 (highest for dat workshop tongue.gif ) icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif (y am i so hyper?? coz i scored very low for my 1st assignment nia)

however, it depends on you which foreign B-schools u wanna take (UK or Australia)
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I've heard many many many ppl talking about MBA nowadays,its really that good?
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it depends on wer u r now....taking it too early is of not much help.

u can spend some time browse thru this thread to find out more....
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QUOTE(ppguy2006 @ Nov 19 2007, 03:42 PM)
"different approach"-mind to share what approach they're using?

If really does effect employment, i don't mind to be switch for the sake of future.

In current Uni,they are using teaching basis(like undergraduate) and problem basis teaching as well.
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wat different approach tat u means??
hmm..... if the Uni is teaching basis, then y dun u try to go to college??
college also provide MBA course also....
at college, u not only study at the theory, u can learn more on that......

if u want to know any information, pls do not hesitate to contact me, at msn: cute-snow@hotmail.com or skype: snowbaby or sms 017-3918954

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QUOTE(Melon @ Nov 19 2007, 01:22 PM)
r u talking about the annual MBA tour by QS??

i attended last year one...u better quickly register yourself coz those B-schools do preselect for interview during that day.

www.topmba.com
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Hi Melon,

Thanks for the info. That is what I was looking for.

Well, for those interested, this is the URL for registration: http://www.topmba.com/wmt/index_wmt.php?mo...&partnerid=1060.

Cheers.
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I've been thinking of getting my MBA for a while now.

Most worried about the paying for it part, though ... someone mentioned in the thread that you can withdraw EPF for it, how much would I be able to withdraw (I'm estimating I have maybe RM20K in all my EPF accounts in total)?

And as for bank loans, would I be looking specifically for an educational/study loan, or those quick cash kind of things (the interest rate for those damn high leh ... like almost credit card kind of levels). Assuming a 40k/yr (I've only been working 2+ years) salary, what kind of amount should I be aiming to borrow?
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I've been thinking of getting my MBA for a while now.

Most worried about the paying for it part, though ... someone mentioned in the thread that you can withdraw EPF for it, how much would I be able to withdraw (I'm estimating I have maybe RM20K in all my EPF accounts in total)?

And as for bank loans, would I be looking specifically for an educational/study loan, or those quick cash kind of things (the interest rate for those damn high leh ... like almost credit card kind of levels). Assuming a 40k/yr (I've only been working 2+ years) salary, what kind of amount should I be aiming to borrow?
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yup. its right. u can withdraw EPF for continue your study. but for that i think you better bring the document and show it to the college consultant. they will help you to arrange on it. they will calculate the amount and how much you can apply the loan. dont be worry. it just a simple thing. u just need to bring all the document and also your cert to the college to do some survey. because though forum, we cant see your documents so we cant give you lot of information. just try the way and see how is it.

good luck to you.

wish you all the best.

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Y not also check if your office is willing to support a part of your education? No harm trying, right? blush.gif
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i honestly dont see a trust in doing programs in segi..for those who had been there..how recognize is your cert from there?tho its an external program but has it benefit you in anyway?im currently doing my MSc in BIT under northumbria uni..about to complete

thinking of taking up a professional cert in my field to back up
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Nov 28 2007, 05:50 PM)
I've been thinking of getting my MBA for a while now.

Most worried about the paying for it part, though ... someone mentioned in the thread that you can withdraw EPF for it, how much would I be able to withdraw (I'm estimating I have maybe RM20K in all my EPF accounts in total)?

And as for bank loans, would I be looking specifically for an educational/study loan, or those quick cash kind of things (the interest rate for those damn high leh ... like almost credit card kind of levels). Assuming a 40k/yr (I've only been working 2+ years) salary, what kind of amount should I be aiming to borrow?
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hi, sorry for the late reply. Was bz wif exams last week. tongue.gif

EPF nowadays is very efficient. U can get ur $$ in 3 weeks. All u need to do is jz to comply by the rules set by EPF. U can get these via its webpage. Give them a call to clear ur queries.

Don't go for quick cash. The interest charged is heavy plus u r only able to take 5 times of ur salary. Try Kojadi, if u really wanted to get a loan. You can get the details via website too. Study loans from bank requires collateral, and it depends on the value of ur collateral to determine the loan amount.

as for me, i'm paying via EPF and oso hard saved $$$ (to maximise the ROI on MBA, brows.gif )

good luck.

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i believe the sunway's mba offered manchester business school is the highest ranked university by THES available in KL. needs lots of coco$ to complete that since it is UK school. another one is insead offered in singapore.
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i believe the sunway's mba offered manchester business school is the highest ranked university by THES available in KL. needs lots of coco$ to complete that since it is UK school. another one is insead offered in singapore.
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how did Uni of Manchester fair in dat ranking?? i missed dat...i only know in FT and BW

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Thanks Melon.

From EPF website:

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You are eligible to withdraw your savings as follows, whichever is lower:

The amount of education fees; or
All of your Account II savings.
So assuming I'm going for a April intake, I'd have rm7.5k from my EPF a/c 2 ... hardly sufficient, haha. Problem is, the huge bulk of my savings are in my company's ESOS, which only matures 2 years from now - I can withdraw it earlier, but then I don't get the benefit (I'm expecting a 60%-70% ROI over 3 years for this).

So EPF of 7k + Cash-In-Hand of 7k = 14k. Still need, at the very least, 6k-13k. No house, lousy car, hmmm maybe talk to Father/Mother Sdn Bhd and see if they're willing to ... further invest ... hahaha biggrin.gif if no then only find other more independant ways of getting the $$ smile.gif

[edit] @ tinkerbel > I enquired with the HR, and apparently if you fund your own MBA, the company rewards/re-imburses you 10k in cash, no strings attached. Which is now kind of dilemma-ish, cos I was really considering resigning and working a low-stress-low-pay job while studying ...

[edit 2] My department head recommended International Islamic University cos that's where she did her MBA. I was like erm ... really ...?? and apparently the MBA itself is totally secular and has a decent percentage of non-muslim students.

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Thanks Melon.

From EPF website:
So assuming I'm going for a April intake, I'd have rm7.5k from my EPF a/c 2 ... hardly sufficient, haha. Problem is, the huge bulk of my savings are in my company's ESOS, which only matures 2 years from now - I can withdraw it earlier, but then I don't get the benefit (I'm expecting a 60%-70% ROI over 3 years for this).

So EPF of 7k + Cash-In-Hand of 7k = 14k. Still need, at the very least, 6k-13k. No house, lousy car, hmmm maybe talk to Father/Mother Sdn Bhd and see if they're willing to ... further invest ... hahaha biggrin.gif if no then only find other more independant ways of getting the $$ smile.gif

[edit] @ tinkerbel > I enquired with the HR, and apparently if you fund your own MBA, the company rewards/re-imburses you 10k in cash, no strings attached. Which is now kind of dilemma-ish, cos I was really considering resigning and working a low-stress-low-pay job while studying ...

[edit 2] My department head recommended International Islamic University cos that's where she did her MBA. I was like erm ... really ...?? and apparently the MBA itself is totally secular and has a decent percentage of non-muslim students.
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oh...i din get which MBA u gonna register?? Anyway, i dun think u need to pay all at once, rite??
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how did Uni of Manchester fair in dat ranking?? i missed dat...i only know in FT and BW

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http://china-economics-blog.blogspot.com/2...y-rankings.html

manchester is always in top 10 for uk school. Times ranked it No. 30 (mba) in the world for 2007. Consider you can complete it in sunway (living expenses is crazy in uk)...quite a good bargain for uk mba school.

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http://china-economics-blog.blogspot.com/2...y-rankings.html

manchester is always in top 10 for uk school. Times ranked it No. 30 in the world for 2007. Consider you can complete it in sunway (living expenses is crazy in uk)...quite a good bargain for uk mba school.
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at last, someone understood why i choose MBS icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah....MBS is world reknowned...but im still way too young and was wondering how strict are they towards they're requirements? Do they still screen students even though they satisfy the minimum requirements? Do they have a max per intake?

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Hi,could someone please tell me which university/college is offering Masters in Finance and Investment programme besides UON. Really interested in doing finance/investment related programme. I was planning to do CFA before this
but decided not to because it's hard. The passing rate's only 40%. Really appreciate if someone could help me with my request. Thank you.
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yeah....MBS is world reknowned...but im still way too young and was wondering how strict are they towards they're requirements? Do they still screen students even though they satisfy the minimum requirements? Do they have a max per intake?
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hmm...too young, huh??

actually the age thingy is a way to make sure a prospective student has enuf working experience to take MBA. If u r able to proof ur level of working experience is sufficient for u to proceed wif an MBA, it shud not be a problem.

Bear in mind dat working experience is important to survive MBS MBA.

good luck icon_rolleyes.gif
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How much does it cost to do MBA at MBS?In Malaysia.
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oh...i din get which MBA u gonna register?? Anyway, i dun think u need to pay all at once, rite??
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Totally undecided, but mostly limited to budget concerns, so it's a toss-up between a local uni or a cheaper college/foreign-u affiliation like that segi/usq tie-up.
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Hi,could someone please tell me which university/college is offering Masters in Finance and Investment programme besides UON. Really interested in doing finance/investment related programme. I was planning to do CFA before this
but decided not to because it's hard. The passing rate's only 40%. Really appreciate if someone could help me with my request. Thank you.
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CFA actually not that hard to pass first level..2nd n 3rd i dont know...
I passed with a engineering degree with no accounting background...for level one
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CFA actually not that hard to pass first level..2nd n 3rd i dont know...
I passed with a engineering degree with no accounting background...for level one
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Really?Maybe because you're a genius notworthy.gif I don't think I would register for CFA because the registration date was last month. Miss a few classes already. I was thinking of doing Master in Finance and Investment at University of Nottingham. But the subjects offered for that programme are not that interesting compared to CFA. PNBi will offer Master in Applied Finance and Investment next year. That one is much better compared to UON's. For the time being I couldn't make any decision yet on which course to take because I will be doing my Diploma Pengurusan Awam in September 2008 (I think). I'm currently working for the government as a PTD officer. Every PTD officers have to do that course.Maybe I will just register for CFP, module 4 or 5. Finished module 1 in 2006. But feel a bit lazy to do it yawn.gif Btw I'm 24 years old and I don't have enough working experience. I think it's a bit hard to apply for MBA.
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study CFA if u are those who want to become fund manager of in investment banking..MBA is more diverse...can applied even u want to become an CEO of proton....

Man Business school in SUnway how mcuh the course fee...is the standard is as good as in UK?Nottingham cost u over 50k in local campus
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but i did hear that the annual fees payable to the CFA board in the US is rather high, only reason why my mum...errr, back then did not take the programme.

i read somewhere that MBS MBA was about 75k, but i forgot where i read it...darn!
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CFA annual fee,,,after u passed 3 lvel and has 3 yrs of working xperience .....
but want to pas 3 level is not easy.....
the passing rate at 35% is due to so many ppl in china taking CFA...which mean malaysia passing rate is actually not that low
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Dudes, What's the difference between MBA, Master of Arts ( Finance ), Master of Science ( Finance), MBA Finance?

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wen is da nex intake for public u masters intake??? anyone kno?
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@Catherine85,
There's a distinct difference between the few Masters u mentioned.

1) MBA - Master of Business Administration ; course structure's more practical, skewed towards business practitioners
2) M Arts (Finance) - course is more academic based as compared to (1). Finance as the specialised stream is where u will take Finance based subjects as your electives to give you a better understanding in Finance. Also, it's from the 'Arts' school.
3) M Science (Finance) - course is probably academic - the subjects taken are probably a little different skewed to *i don't know what* - u will need to refer to actual course guideline of the Uni. It's part of the 'Science' faculty, and not Arts faculty.
4) MBA Finance - just like (1) except u will concentrate on Finance subjects instead of pure Business Management subjects.

If you intend to pursue your career in Academics, u shouldn't be looking at an MBA - perhaps the MArts or MScience (but do check out what the difference is - sometimes it's just the difference of name)

@alsree786,
Yes the MBS MBA is about RM75k - and that's after a 25% bursary !

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@alsree786,
Yes the MBS MBA is about RM75k - and that's after a 25% bursary !
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oh yay, finally someone confirmed that it is about 75k, i knew i read it somewhere....thanks anyway!!
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@alsree786,
It's on this same thread, in one of the earlier posts I'm sure. Alternatively, U could have just called them for verification; wouldn't that have been much faster? tongue.gif
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@alsree786,
It's on this same thread, in one of the earlier posts I'm sure.  Alternatively, U could have just called them for verification; wouldn't that have been much faster?  tongue.gif
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couldn't agree with u more....

jz a tip to those decided to take a foreign MBA. It requires HUGE self research and not about spoon feeding.

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@Melon,
How's the MBA coming along? I think it'll be good to catch up with you and get to know you in a more personal way *grins* Let's meet up some time after in 2008? *grins*
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@Melon,
How's the MBA coming along?  I think it'll be good to catch up with you and get to know you in a more personal way *grins*  Let's meet up some time after in 2008? *grins*
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Hi Tinkerbell,

Done my 1st sem's exam in Nov and now having 'holiday' till the next sem starts in Jan 08. tongue.gif

Survived my 1st sem....wakakkakakak laugh.gif
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@Melon,
And how many more to go? And remember to celebrate the small wins too smile.gif
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Anyone has any insight information on the MBA course offered by Nottingham Uni in Malaysia? Requirements and self experience preferred...
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And how many more to go?  And remember to celebrate the small wins too smile.gif
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another 5 more to go...yup, i celebrated my small wins.......wakkakakkaka tongue.gif
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@guybrush,
I think u should take some initiative to check out NUBS on your own instead of relying on LYN forumers for information.

Anyhow, there are 3 different MBAs offered at NUBS, Malaysia Campus:
1) MBA (General)
2) MBA (Finance)
3) MBA (International)

Requirements for MBA (General & International)

Applicants must normally be graduates of an approved University holding an Honours Degree (preferably with at least a second class upper qualification, or GPA 3.2) or a relevant professional qualification deemed equivalent to a first degree. Other equivalent qualifications will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Applicants are required to have at least three years' of full-time working experience, usually in a managerial capacity, the majority or all of which will have been gained since graduating from their first degree or relevant qualification. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE.

Mature applicants without the minimum academic qualifications who have successfully completed professional qualifications and have several years of senior management experience may also apply.

The decision regarding acceptability of qualifications rests solely with the Business School. Entry will normally be at the discretion of the Director of Postgraduate Programmes, who may conduct a face-to-face interview where necessary.
Anyone has any insight information on the MBA course offered by Nottingham Uni in Malaysia? Requirements and self experience preferred...

Requirements for MBA (Finance)

Applicants must normally be graduates of an approved University holding an Honours Degree with a significant component in finance, economics or accounting (preferably with at least a second class upper qualification, or GPA 3.2) or a relevant professional qualification deemed equivalent to a first degree. Other equivalent qualifications will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Applicants are required to have at least three years' of full-time working experience, usually in a managerial capacity, in a finance, economics or accounting environment, the majority or all of which will have been gained since graduating from their first degree or relevant qualification. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE.

Mature applicants without the minimum academic qualifications who have successfully completed professional qualifications and have several years of senior management experience may also apply.

The decision regarding acceptability of qualifications rests solely with the Business School. Entry will normally be at the discretion of the Director of Postgraduate Programmes, who may conduct a face-to-face interview where necessary.

English Language Requirement

An International English Language Testing System (IELTS) score of at least 7.0, with a minimum score of at least 6.0 in each of the four individual elements of the test; or

A Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL) score of at least 600 with a Test of Written English (TWE) score of at least of 4.0 together with a Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT) of at least 580 with an Analytical Writing Assessment (AWA) score of at least 4.0.

Graduates of Australia, UK and US Universities or institutions where the language of instruction is English may be exempted from this requirement.

Equivalent English Language credentials will also be considered.
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I'm planning to start my MBA journey on early 2009. So right now
just plan ahead and gather information.

Anyone know the total fees for the MBA program from UniSA run by
ITD at KL? I didn't see anything regarding this on the ITD website though?
How difference does the MBA course offered by Australian Uni with
the rest of the better uni in Europe and US in terms of syllabus and
career prospect?

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@Melon,
How's the MBA coming along?  I think it'll be good to catch up with you and get to know you in a more personal way *grins*  Let's meet up some time after in 2008? *grins*
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Not meeting me???

Just kidding...

Anyway, I started my second year MBA at Segi..half way through 1st semester already...it is A LOT tougher than 1st year....and a lot more effort must be put into researches....

thinking of enrolling in 1 subject instead of the usual 2 for the next semester....cant really cope with it as work is kinda hectic these days..
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@guybrush,
If u can't find the information online, best is to give them a call to get more detailed information. Course previews are probably available for u to attend too - which I suggest u should and u can ask more questions there and then.

Primarily the course should be the same; just different course materials and structure. Go for a course which structure suits u best. Don't forget an MBA is not supposed to be taught - it should be interactive and merely facilitated.

The UniSA MBA shouldn't be more than RM30k in total (benchmarking the Australian MBA rates, RM30k is oredi quite high!) but pls do get the right information from the course provider.

As to career prospect - are u intending to pursue your career here in Msia? If so, are u looking at going to a large MNC or what? As discussed with a couple of friends offline, it's really not worth our ROI pursuing too expensive an MBA here in Msia if we intend to remain in Msia.

@lokgotz,
If u can't cope with 2 subjects then defer 1 like u mentioned. As long as u remain in school - do NOT make the same mistake as I did deferring the entire semester (once U start deferring, it's v tough to find the motivation to finish it!). Yes will meet u but u male mah - i SHY !! *grins* Melon's female so not so shy! *grins*


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Im planning to take MBA in segi college because its near with my place. Do you have any comments on segi?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Dec 27 2007, 10:06 AM)
@lokgotz,
If u can't cope with 2 subjects then defer 1 like u mentioned.  As long as u remain in school - do NOT make the same mistake as I did deferring the entire semester (once U start deferring, it's v tough to find the motivation to finish it!).  Yes will meet u but u male mah - i SHY !! *grins*  Melon's female so not so shy! *grins*
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Might not be deferring. Still want to see if I can cope with this semester or not. So far so good, a bit stressed, but still ok.

u and melon can meet me mah.... drool.gif 2 female, 1 male.....i see no problem with that.....hahaha.....

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Im planning to take MBA in segi college because its near with my place. Do you have any comments on segi?
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what do you want to know about it? I am in 2nd year USQ MBA from segi, KD campus...

If it's near your house, i assume that it's the USJ campus, coz there got more houses, compared to KL and KD....the courses are more or less the same though...

just post your questions here, i'll see if i can answer it...
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Im planning to take MBA in segi college because its near with my place. Do you have any comments on segi?
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My suggestion to you is.. try to stay away from Segi if possible..
Course coordinator is very slow, unprofessional...
Lecturers even worst.. go to classes and talk cock in the class...
but if you are discipline enough to self study, do not need the college at all.. then it shoudlnt be a problem
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@neotv,
U should give these feedback to the Mnagement of SeGi so they can find ways to improve their course smile.gif
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QUOTE(neotv @ Dec 30 2007, 08:46 AM)
My suggestion to you is.. try to stay away from Segi if possible..
Course coordinator is very slow, unprofessional...
Lecturers even worst.. go to classes and talk cock in the class...
but if you are discipline enough to self study, do not need the college at all.. then it shoudlnt be a problem
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half true...

there are some lecturers who treat us like undergrads.....but most of them are really professional in conducting classes...

"but if you are discipline enough to self study, do not need the college at all.. then it shoudlnt be a problem"
you'll still need to go to the college for lectures, you wouldn't understand based on the notes given....and the lecturers are there to facilitate, not to mention the other students.....you could really get good input from them....

the true part is that the course coordinator is unprofessional....this i agree.....they seem to know nuts when it comes to the second year of the MBA, every thing u ask, their answer is "go to the website, you'll get the answers there", "i cannot control this la, australian side decide one worr"

which campus are you referring to??

i am from the KD campus (used to be SS2)
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will be enroll in the January intake for MBA-USQ in segi..
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QUOTE(neotv @ Dec 30 2007, 08:46 AM)
My suggestion to you is.. try to stay away from Segi if possible..
Course coordinator is very slow, unprofessional...
Lecturers even worst.. go to classes and talk cock in the class...
but if you are discipline enough to self study, do not need the college at all.. then it shoudlnt be a problem
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MBA is no more a spoon-fed studying program, bro

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will be enroll in the January intake for MBA-USQ in segi..
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Added on January 4, 2008, 2:16 pm

MBA is no more a spoon-fed studying program, bro
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Classes starting soon? KD or subang campus?

Anyway regarding your second post.
I have to say this but you'll be dissapointed in Segi. Read my previous post.

QUOTE(lokgotz @ Dec 31 2007, 12:56 AM)
half true...

there are some lecturers who treat us like undergrads.....but most of them are really professional in conducting classes...

"but if you are discipline enough to self study, do not need the college at all.. then it shoudlnt be a problem"
you'll still need to go to the college for lectures, you wouldn't understand based on the notes given....and the lecturers are there to facilitate, not to mention the other students.....you could really get good input from them....

the true part is that the course coordinator is unprofessional....this i agree.....they seem to know nuts when it comes to the second year of the MBA, every thing u ask, their answer is "go to the website, you'll get the answers there", "i cannot control this la, australian side decide one worr"

which campus are you referring to??

i am from the KD campus (used to be SS2)
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What about MBA in UPM?

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@madstone,
Is it the one that's affiliated with a French University?
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I thought getting an MBA was all about networking with future professionals and getting a good university's name on the resume. MBA courses aren't really that outstanding, and don't differ much from program to program. You do the same basic stuff mostly. Better universities will get in better/famous speakers, hold better mixers, and so forth.

And the only French university I know of that has a presence in ASEAN is Insead. Last I heard their Singapore campus only takes in people for their Executive MBA program, which means you need to have at least 3 years working experience in order to qualify as a candidate.

Needless to say, people from more prestigious/famous MNCs will get a headstart on the candidates list.


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If for example i want to take MBA in Australia as i will grad this May , i need to apply from now right for July intake??

so what kind of result should i send to them as i still not finish yet + if my pointer was like 2.++..do u guys think i got a chance??
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QUOTE(masicecre @ Jan 6 2008, 03:07 PM)
I thought getting an MBA was all about networking with future professionals and getting a good university's name on the resume. MBA courses aren't really that outstanding, and don't differ much from program to program. You do the same basic stuff mostly. Better universities will get in better/famous speakers, hold better mixers, and so forth.

And the only French university I know of that has a presence in ASEAN is Insead. Last I heard their Singapore campus only takes in people for their Executive MBA program, which means you need to have at least 3 years working experience in order to qualify as a candidate.

Needless to say, people from more prestigious/famous MNCs will get a headstart on the candidates list.
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exec mbas especially from top unis require a min of 5 years exp, some even 7...depending on your managerial exp
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The Insead program is a very good program. Unfortunately, it's also a very expensive program! sad.gif

@powercolor,
I suggest u finish ur studies, work a few years before considering the MBA. You won't get much out of the MBA if u went straight into it without work experience. Plus based on ur current CPGA u aren't exactly a 'great' student; perhaps just mediocre
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IamDaryl,

If you consider Singapore to be 'local'...only stone throw away from JB...then INSEAD would be the best option. It's a world class business school which produces top breed business leaders, including Pepsi Co CEO Indra Nooyi etc.

They have 2 campus,one in downtown Singapore and the other Fontainebleau (near Paris, France).

The selection is quite tough and the interview will be conducted by the alumni themselves. Many of the alumni that came on the preview were VP's of Investment Banks in Singapore in their early 30's.

Try checking out their website for more info.

I went for the preview held at Boston Consulting Group,Sultan Ismail KL few months back and got quite intrigue by the whole 10 months MBA thing as compared to a 2 years MBA at other top notch BS like Chicago or Donald's Trumps alma matter, Wharton@UPenn.




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How abt University of Strathclayde??? Distance Learning provide by CDC Management. Only need to go for Fri, Sat & Sun coursework. Has 3 accrediation.
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Ya. Quite Prestigious. 3 accreditations. 1 of the top 50 MBAs in the world selected by the UK government for qualifications of PR upon completion. But the cost is high as well. Approx. RM 52k. You can also opt for the summer school in Scotland if it's within ur budget.


Added on January 12, 2008, 4:28 pmAny one knows any good Exec MBA in town?


Looking to pursue an eMBA....

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So SEGi is a bad idea ... ?? Obviously if money was no object then Nottingham/MBS/Overseas is best choice, but what if a particular poor guy who can only afford to spend 20-odd or 30k max wanted to take MBA, what would be a list of "ok" MBAs to choose from?

Anyway been shopping/asking around. Couple of friends are in UTAR's MBA (new-ish program), they don't have much good to say about it. But really, at this moment my only options are local U, or lower-end local college like SEGi/utar/etc etc.


Added on January 14, 2008, 10:47 am[add] I should also add that I work late, so another limiting factor is weekend-courses only ... hmm ... maybe should work 1-2 more years, ikat perut a bit, then resign and full time biggrin.gif

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@deodorant,
If u can onli attend classes during the weekends, u should look for MBAs which conducts classes during the weekends and not during weekdays. There are some classes which are conducted on Friday afternoons; which means u will need to take time off work.

Also, some would require extra tutorials on weekdays so u need to make sure u can make time to attend those. Go for one which is befitting and suitable. It doesn't mean that the more class contact hours there are, the better the program is.

You should perhaps check out RMIT's MBA.
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 14 2008, 10:35 AM)
So SEGi is a bad idea ... ?? Obviously if money was no object then Nottingham/MBS/Overseas is best choice, but what if a particular poor guy who can only afford to spend 20-odd or 30k max wanted to take MBA, what would be a list of "ok" MBAs to choose from?

Anyway been shopping/asking around. Couple of friends are in UTAR's MBA (new-ish program), they don't have much good to say about it. But really, at this moment my only options are local U, or lower-end local college like SEGi/utar/etc etc.


Added on January 14, 2008, 10:47 am[add] I should also add that I work late, so another limiting factor is weekend-courses only ... hmm ... maybe should work 1-2 more years, ikat perut a bit, then resign and full time biggrin.gif
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Segi is not a bad idea......but it's not as good compared to MBS/Nottingham....i'd say it's average

oh yeah, classes are ONLY on weekends....although sometimes (very rarely) u'll need to attend classes at night on weekdays..
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INSEAD is having their MBA/EMBA Information Session next month. Details as follows:

Date: 12 Feb 2008, Tues
Time: 1830-2130hrs
Venue: Mandarin Oriental, KL

RSVP to www.insead.edu/mba/offevents

PS: If u think the MBS MBA @ Sunway is expensive, don't even bother checking this out smile.gif
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Hello,

Im thinking of taking up MBA before i move and work in UK, most probably Dec 2009. I have a degree, and almost 2 years (another 2 months) working exp. Because of both MBS and Nottingham out of my budget reach, and i would like to be part of a good mba programmes.

What are the others part time MBA that i can apply for that are relevant for me in UK? And finish before i go there in Dec next year.


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i'm just confused when it comes choosing the right school/colleges/uni for MBA.

financial is the main issue where i need to source it out at first place (epf etc etc). there are a few colleges that i come across during the education fair the other day. i saw olympia college (MBA from Nottingham Trent University, UK). Have anyone heard of it? i know Nottingham, but this is the first time i heard on Nottingham Trent University.

http://www.olympia.edu.my/Programmes/mba.html
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QUOTE(faithziler @ Jan 23 2008, 04:17 AM)
i'm just confused when it comes choosing the right school/colleges/uni for MBA.

financial is the main issue where i need to source it out at first place (epf etc etc). there are a few colleges that i come across during the education fair the other day. i saw olympia college (MBA from Nottingham Trent University, UK). Have anyone heard of it? i know Nottingham, but this is the first time i heard on Nottingham Trent University.

http://www.olympia.edu.my/Programmes/mba.html
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biggrin.gif actually NTU is one of the u at uk...
for those who would like to go to oversea is it better to choose for this course
it get the approval from oversea.. hmm.... thumbup.gif
welcome you to msn me if you want to know more bout that..
thanks...... brows.gif
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Hello,

Im thinking of taking up MBA before i move and work in UK, most probably Dec 2009. I have a degree, and almost 2 years (another 2 months) working exp. Because of both MBS and Nottingham out of my budget reach, and i would like to be part of a good mba programmes.

What are the others part time MBA that i can apply for that are relevant for me in UK? And finish before i go there in Dec next year.
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hmm.... got few college offer MBA course for part time one.
but... if part time course consider no LAN approval but it agree by oversea..
just think bout it....
more info just contact cute-snow@hotmail.com
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QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 18 2007, 11:07 AM)
Most of UK MBA are 1 year coz it's an intensive one. More classes per week whereas US (as usual) take things slowly and they actually have summer break, so 1 year is actually 9 mths of studies..... tongue.gif
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you got to compare the total subject that the particular b-school offering. 1 year mba normally offer 12 subject whereas 2 year mba consist of 16 subject.

prior to that... intensive class is more 8 hours in a day.... how much can u digest?

i did intensive class before and i did not do it well... it's too much to digest for a subject to be teach in 4 full day. rclxub.gif
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@emperor_rahl,
U can try checking out Strathclyde's MBA. It's quite good too smile.gif

@cute_baby_snow,
hMm... no need so hard sell one tongue.gif

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uhuk2..pfft.. its out of my budget reach.. i did some research and came up with 3 places which are practical and reasonable for me..

1. Victoria University of Technology MBA, Sunway
2. Southern Queensland U, Segi
3. Charles Sturt, HELP institute (But this one is "Master of Business", not MBA, what are the differences ya)

Which one you all recommend and why?
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Rahl, Have you compared UniSA from ITD? So far from what I see, the lecturers are a mix of overseas and local.... PhD level if not MBA with teaching experience/working experience.....
Course is graded through individual assignments & group assignments and exams.
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Guys, what are the differences between "Master of Business Administration" & "Master of Business"? The Later sounds cooler although MBA much more popular.

Uhuk.,. UniSa also expensive gurase
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Master of Business is generally meant for those without work experience; it's 'slightly' lower ranked than an MBA.
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post Feb 3 2008, 06:43 PM

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Hey guys! I clicked this thread to read then realised it had TWENTY FIVE pages!! Ha, alright back to topic, hope no one has already mentioned this (couldn't tahan reading after 7 pages!) but I've just got some information on a really good Entrepreneurial MBA course. It's a 12 month course & the only one of that time frame I think. [which i think is flippin awesome!]

I don't have all the specifics right now but anyone interested to know though? Just reply & I'll update lah when I do get the info smile.gif

There're actually 3 courses you can choose: an Entrepreneurial MBA, Entrepreneurial BBA or an Executive Diploma in Entrepreneurial Management (from SPACE UTM). I think the first two are from the Entrepreneurial Institute of Australia with a center over here.

The best part though is, get this - there's a scholarship worth RM7,400 available through the Asia Pacific Development Foundation Australia!!

Oh as for accreditation, it's accredited, approved & recognised by Msian government. I was about to say LAN approved but I realised its now called the Malaysian Qualifications Agency. So yeah, it's approved by em smile.gif

anyone have experience with the above course?

apparently its a very futuristic entrepreneuerial programme (the first Ent MBA too in Malaysia)..alot of emphasis on entrepreneurship, innovation, creativity and futuristic thinking. what interests me the most is the scholarship, accreditation + their student's testimonies. lots of promotions somehow! a guy from sabah was on the programme for a while & got promoted and was then sent to KL even! Anyone want the testimony? I'll try to find the link to it..

(oops forgot about the qualifications..think you need a first degree [may be wrong] for the MBA/sufficient working experience. the rest i'll try to find out & post back here).

edit: one more piece of info, the MBA classes are held over weekends smile.gif

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post Feb 15 2008, 09:42 AM

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how about MBA in IPTA...?
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post Feb 15 2008, 03:37 PM

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nauce...
any more update or give the website?


Added on February 15, 2008, 3:40 pmIPTA...u prefer UM,UTM or UPM?
I think they are looking for more prestigious MBA that recognised "worldwide"

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post Feb 15 2008, 04:43 PM

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@emperor_rahl,
You could always check out RMIT's MBA?
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post Feb 15 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(chgchksg128 @ Feb 15 2008, 04:37 PM)
nauce...
any more update or give the website?


Added on February 15, 2008, 3:40 pmIPTA...u prefer UM,UTM or UPM?
I think they are looking for more prestigious MBA that recognised "worldwide"
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hey chgchksg, the website's here: excel.edu.my - look for entrepreneurial mba. but was told more info by email, PM me your email address & i'll forward it/ask em to forward to you k? smile.gif the updates are in another thread i'd done, will find it for you later k? gotta go now!

(also found u can attend the actual classes as a preview student, PM me for more k? really gotta run now, later!)

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I notice there are at least two postings saying there is a center of Nottingham Uni in KL , where is it located ?
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post Feb 16 2008, 12:29 PM

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It's on Jln Conlay; near Prince Hotel smile.gif

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