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Business MBA, Where's best to study MBA in Malaysia?
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seantang
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Jan 6 2007, 11:46 PM
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If you can venture across the causeway, NUS has joint MBA programs with Harvard and Insead. NUS itself is one of the top 100 MBAs globally.
The well-known American MBAs are most well regarded by employers. I'm sure you know Harvard, Princeton, Chicago, Stanford, Wharton etc etc. Consultancies like BCG and McKinsey tend to recruit most of their staff from these 1st tier MBAs.
European MBAs are quite well regarded, but not as many. Insead's the most well known and 1st tier. UK MBAs are generally mostly 2nd or 3rd tier, but some like LBS, Manchester and Warwick are very well known.
The best Aussie MBAs are from UNSW-AGSM and Melbourne Biz School. The rest are generally 3rd tier.
Most local employers don't pay extra for MBAs. It's usually the MNCs which value MBAs, especially if you have it on top of a purely technical first degree. They see it as an indication of potential and an awareness of business acumen.
This post has been edited by seantang: Jan 6 2007, 11:55 PM
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seantang
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Jan 7 2007, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 7 2007, 01:10 PM) seantang, Your location states Ipoh/Singapore. Just by any chance, you're pursuing any one of the 2 MBAs you mentioned? Yes, INSEAD's one is definitely a reputable, v recognised course  No lah, I'm too old and unmotivated to study anymore. But I reckon it's a great opportunity to get a top tier coursework MBA, that rivals even the top US ones, without having to go all the way to the US or Europe.
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seantang
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Jan 8 2007, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007, 01:14 PM) Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK. MBAs have their own rankings, which are independent of overall university rankings. A top ranking university, might not necessarily have a top ranking MBA, although a good overall uni ranking surely doesn't hurt the MBA's prestige at all. The best MBA's are usually conducted by a very independent business school within the university. Some deans of the business schools don't even report to the university's chancellor, but straight to the board of governors. Best if you check the MBA rankings directly, rather than extrapolate from the university rankings.
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seantang
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Jan 8 2007, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 8 2007, 02:13 PM) As much as I can understand the reasoning behind the minimum required age, I think there should be some flexibility on it depending on the individual as long as the rest of the entry requirements are met. Then again, I'm not looking to pursue an MBA so I better keep my mouth shut  Yes, there'll definitely be some flexibility. Just the same as being 27 and above doesn't guarantee you a place in the course. It's just a convenient guideline, not a pre-requisite. It's a MBA, not a driving license. Most 27 year olds will tend to have at least 3-5 years of working experience - which allows them to have something to contribute to the class, and more importantly, have a background on which to compare what they learn during the MBA.
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seantang
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Jan 8 2007, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007, 06:59 PM) seantang, you are right. but if you had checked, you might have realized that the Nottingham University Business School also ranks in the Top 100 MBAs worldwide, by Financial Times. May be, but you should have mentioned that instead. No worries.
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seantang
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Jan 13 2007, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(pgsingerboy @ Jan 12 2007, 11:10 PM) You definitely need working experience for a "proper" MBA. All good and reputable business schools require at least 3 years working experience. Working experience to an MBA is like age to wine. The more years to your working experience you have the better candidate you are for an MBA. You need 'appropriate' working experience. The best MBAs will want you to be fairly accomplished in your career before they give you a place. Otherwise your education history needs to be quite a bit above average. No point paying 80K to go to classes with sales execs, accounts execs or IT programmers who've never supervised people or managed a dept /function /business before.
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seantang
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Jan 13 2007, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(Creamer @ Jan 13 2007, 01:22 PM) I quite agree with your view. There is just no compelling reason to attend a classroom-based MBA in Malaysia if the main intention is to network with the who's who of the industry. Either the class is too small (I've heard of the Leicester MBA with only 5 participants - what a bore), or it is populated by junior executives (such as the USQ programme by Segi). Not only networking. It's also the team projects / assignments and discussions. In a class full of inexperienced low level employees with nothing to share, all the activities soon become Q&A sessions. They Q, the more experienced ones A.
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seantang
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Jan 14 2007, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 14 2007, 05:58 PM) By the way, The Star newspaper reported that an MBA from UK recognized universities automatically gain entry requirement to work in UK under their highly skilled workforce program. Only 50 British MBAs on the list. But 50... that's about all the MBAs lah. But only for those who graduated after 2004.
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seantang
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Jan 14 2007, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(Pai @ Jan 14 2007, 05:51 PM) eh guys, in your opinions, is it better doin' p/time MBA at : 1. a local uni (UM, UIAM) OR 2. college with overseas twinning programs? (sunway, nottingham) It would be great if u guys can explain briefly the reasons behind your preferences. Thanks in advance guys  Get the foreign one. Local Us don't have the reputation and name recognition of the foreign Us. It's a sad fact of life.
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seantang
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Jan 15 2007, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Unbelievable @ Jan 15 2007, 04:15 PM) INSEAD? lolz that one so hard to entering u save time go harvard la.
the fee is unbelievable high too. U must studying in both France and Sing Ahhhh. Then the question shouldn't be which MBA is good or the best. The question should be which MBA is good when the student is... well, not so good?
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seantang
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Jan 19 2007, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 15 2007, 06:01 PM) seantang, this is the 2nd time u spoke in this thread without bothering to check ur details. actually, only 10 of the 50 MBAs listed are from UK.  This 2nd one, I concede. I mis-read British-approved as British period. The 1st one... rubbish. I merely pointed out that the Top 100 Unis and Top 100 MBAs are 2 entirely different rankings. You just needed to be more specific.
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seantang
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Jan 19 2007, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 19 2007, 06:04 PM) i think u missed the fact that in my very first post, all I said was that nottingham was in the top 100 university list for mba worldwide. Nope, sorry dude. What you said is below. Read your own stuff again. You said Nottingham's the only uni in all of Malaysia to be in the list of Top 100 unis worldwide... therefore it's MBA is best in Malaysia. Anyway, cukup lah. You win, ok. I am sorry seantang isn't psychic enough to understand you. QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007 @ 01:14 PM) Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
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seantang
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Jan 19 2007, 10:22 PM
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Already say you win what... how much more rest can I give it?
You just want the last word, is it? Nah, give you lor. You post one more time, I won't respond. How's that?
This post has been edited by seantang: Jan 19 2007, 10:24 PM
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