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tishaban
post Feb 5 2007, 11:44 AM

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So back to one question someone asked earlier. How much more money can you make with an MBA in Malaysia? Is it realistic to expect an ROI within 1 year of paying RM100+k for an MBA from an above average school or is working outside Malaysia the only realistic way of doing this?

I would just love to make more money (among other things of course) biggrin.gif

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post Feb 6 2007, 05:05 PM

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There's another thread on MBAs here, check out that discussion.

Personally I think taking an MBA with less than 3-5 years of job experience is pointless. Most business schools won't even take you in if you don't have enough job experience.

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post Feb 12 2007, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 12 2007, 04:06 PM)
I'll give them a call if I wasn't sooOo bz at work - then again, I wonder, would their first question to me be similar to something like "the MBA costs RM90k (or whatever that figure is)"..... in other words, If u can't afford it, don't waste our time answering ur question... I got that before in the past!  doh.gif
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Excuse my language but that's that's the most f***ed up attitude I've heard of from a place, and if it were from Nottingham/Manchester/etc I would complain to the management and make sure it gets noticed. Their job is to answer the phone so do their jobs properly already. Aside from certain demographics, anyone and everyone could be a potential customer.

It's sad but I see this everywhere in Malaysia. Do we have a caste system now that we have to look down on other people? mad.gif

Just venting...

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post Feb 12 2007, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 12 2007, 09:04 PM)
tishaban,
You sound so worked up!  And that didn't even happen to you but well, truth is what I related above did really happen, though it wasn't with the Manchester MBA. 
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Haha, I guess I just love to complain when I know I'm within my rights. And the sort of attitude you mentioned is one of my favorites. You don't have to get angry about it, just make sure you talk to right people. For example I got a free sushi buffet dinner at Putrajaya Marriot last Saturday night after complaining to the manager about some stuff biggrin.gif

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post Feb 13 2007, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Feb 13 2007, 12:22 PM)
how to determine the quality of their respective facilitators b4 u take on the program? hmm.gif
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Good question. Do places allow you to audit a course? Sit in a few classes maybe to see the quality of their classes?

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post Feb 13 2007, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 13 2007, 01:25 PM)
You may decide not to want to come back after u've worked overseas *shrugs*.  I wouldn't be surprised if your pay be higher because you would have accumulated some experience after your MBA and not come in as a fresh MBA with no working experience.
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Returning after working overseas can be hard. Adjusting to less money, different lifestyle, driving in KL/PJ biggrin.gif and simply having a different standard of living.

I know a few people who did it and I truly respect their dedication to their family/country/whatever that made them come back from greener pastures.

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post Feb 16 2007, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 13 2007, 05:29 PM)
tishaban,
The grass is *ALWAYS* greener on the other side.... that's if we're standing on this side  smile.gif
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Having been on both sides, I still think the grass is greener on one side only smile.gif

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post Feb 16 2007, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Feb 16 2007, 01:53 PM)
Tishaban,
Is it always greener on the side we're NOT standing on?!  smile.gif
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Lady how right you are biggrin.gif

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post Feb 23 2007, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Feb 23 2007, 12:01 AM)
Hmm, wanna ask regarding MBA. I have a friend who graduated in Graphic Design (Diploma). He told me that he is pursuing MBA, but how can that be possible, since both are totally different courses. Can huh?

What is the fees like if do MBA locally and in overseas?
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asmly14 already mentioned about the need for a degree.

However yes, you can take an MBA no matter what your original degree is in. What is important typically is your work experience, and depending on the university, your GMAT score.

The cost varies significantly. A local university might charge RM20+k but a Harvard or Columbia MBA will cost you US$120k or even more.

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post Feb 23 2007, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(vkeong @ Feb 23 2007, 01:51 PM)
i am thinking of taking up MBA, prolly in local University

but if I take up MBA, i will have to resign from my job.. do you guys think it is a good move?
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There were some notes around here about the local MBA programs not being so great. I don't have personal experience, but what I expect from an MBA is to learn from peers who have had a significant enough amount of work experience that they can contribute to the discussion and classes. Friends who have experience say that local universities aren't the best in this area unfortunately.

Resigning is definitely an option, although much more expensive biggrin.gif They do have part time studies you know...


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post Mar 14 2007, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Love^GM @ Mar 11 2007, 04:22 PM)
But ... i've only 1 year + working experiance with my Degree. As i've heard, it's best recommended to have 2 years + else it's pointless for you to enroll in MBA.
I'm trying to understand this, is it necessary to have 2 years + else u having difficulty in MBA due to lack of business logic knowledge? MBA doesn't based on your knowledge but is experiance?
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The best MBAs are those where the professors are just facilitators and the students participate in active discussion depending on the topic/subject being discussed.

So if you only have very few years of work experience, have never managed people before and have never dealt with high risk/high value projects, it's going to be difficult to contribute to the active discussion going on.

That's why you need some real work experience. A good MBA should not be purely academic or theoretical, it is experience guided by theoretical/proven methods.


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QUOTE(rubicube @ Sep 12 2007, 12:37 PM)
For me, I want a higher pay!
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I want more money too!!!

I think you realize it but it needs to be said that getting that MBA will only get you higher pay if you take on more responsibility or sometimes if you move to a different line of work altogether. More money does not come without more work.

For some industries, the reputation of the MBA makes a huge difference. If you're good enough to be admitted and to pass/excel in a good school, then you're already better than the rest in certain ways. Some places in Singapore are like that for example.



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post Sep 13 2007, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(arthurlwf @ Sep 13 2007, 02:20 AM)
Getting to know coursemate is purely networking and there are other means to know great people without going for MBA. e.g. Lowyat Forum  notworthy.gif
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While you can know people in LYN, I doubt that many good business folk running successful businesses have time to read LYN or impart their knowhow on LYN. Just look at the long running "Earning > RM5k" thread and see how much info you can actually get out of it biggrin.gif

Also, do understand how a good MBA program works. The professors in the program are just facilitators, the people who contribute ideas are the students/coursemates. You are given a situation or case study, each group discusses this and come up with a solution, which is then discussed with other groups in the class. Someone coming straight out of a degree program or with minimal experience will contribute significantly less compared to an entrepreneur running a successful business or a more senior guy who's been around. Assuming that getting to know your coursemates is purely networking is just naive.

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Sep 14 2007, 02:55 AM)
But Finance is quite common, i think la...according to the lecturer, the subject would be kacang putih to accountants.

There are quite a number of accountants in my class, but none of them gave feedbacks and stuff...

Reading materials were given at the beginning of the semester, but none of the lecuturers use it (in the case of my MBA course, i dont know about other MBA courses)...so there is no point reading the materials beforehand...
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Sounds very "Malaysian" to me, one way street only biggrin.gif In most of the top MBA programs, class participation is a significant part of your final grade, sometimes up to 25% which might mean a difference between an A and a fail depending on how high your curve is.

I find MIT's Open Courseware to be a good reference in general.

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post Oct 9 2007, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Oct 9 2007, 04:56 PM)
If I could afford it, I'll like to go for Kellogg's MBA !! *grins*
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I think you can afford it if you don't mind working the US...
The question is whether or not you can get in in the first place tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2007, 11:13 AM

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I don't think the degree matters when you take the MBA, what matters is the experience you bring to the table.

Experience in engineering, development etc. can be very useful as well from a process & procedures point of view or to better understand the R&D or manufacturing side etc.

Personally I think what makes a difference is that you know your own stuff well and know how to communicate well.

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post Oct 18 2007, 11:02 AM

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Why does it take one year to finish a UK based MBA, while many US based MBA programs take two years to finish?

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post Oct 18 2007, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Melon @ Oct 18 2007, 11:07 AM)
Most of UK MBA are 1 year coz it's an intensive one. More classes per week whereas US (as usual) take things slowly and they actually have summer break, so 1 year is actually 9 mths of studies..... tongue.gif
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I doubt that top US MBA programs are slower paced than the top UK MBA programs, yet even with summer breaks you're studying for 18 months in the US and only 12 months in the UK. Is it worth spending the extra time? Do you learn anything more? I can't really tell by looking just at the syllabus, but it seems as if there are far more elective courses in the US MBA programs.

I'm leaning more towards the UK MBA programs simply because they're cheaper biggrin.gif

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post Oct 22 2007, 08:07 PM

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Actually there are part time MBAs and executive MBAs as well. Both are done while you keep your full time job.

I haven't figured out the difference myself. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(gooni3 @ May 20 2008, 12:40 AM)
is the MBA from MBS malaysia qualified for the HSMP in uk?
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I do wonder about it myself, MBS is listed but I'm not sure how MBS issues their degrees and how the Brits check these degrees. The company I work for will sponsor a large portion of the MBA for top schools, however there is a 2-year bond which negates the HSMP advantage...

The next cheapest option in that list is possibly IE (36k Euros) or AGSM (~60k AUD)



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