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Melon
post May 9 2007, 06:05 PM

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Hi there...

I am someone who have gone thru all the chaos to get a fulltime MBA. GMAT, IELTS, a number of admission essays, troubled my referees, sent to top 4 uk b-schools. Dinged from Oxford interview and got an offer from fulltime Manchester B-school (ranked 22nd in FT 2007, 4th in UK)

After struggling to get financial aid via scholarships/loans, decided to let go the fulltime one coz my available funds still insufficient.

Now, am looking to either take up part-time Nottingham or MBS. But, i'm not sure of the ROI for MBA in Malaysia (unlike the fulltime in UK whereby we can get some info from the rankings).

Been to the MBS workshop tester in Sunway last month though. It's a 2.5 - 3 years course (a bit long). Talked to the Director of this programme from UK. Same recognition and accredition with the fulltime one. No worries. Can pay up to 6 installments. GMAT is NOT compulsory though. It's on case to case basis. 100% UK professors.

As for the Nottingham, it's a 2 year programme. Guess it's more hectic as compared wif MBS as we need to attend classes 2/3 days a week. But cheaper by 20+k. Ranked 93rd in FT 2007.

this is my 2 cents biggrin.gif


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post May 11 2007, 12:25 PM

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FT REPORT - BUSINESS EDUCATION: EDUCATION WITH WORLDWIDE APPEAL
By Andrew Baxter, Financial Times
Published: Mar 19, 2007


*The distance-learning arm of Manchester Business School (MBS) was established in 1992 and, during Richard Bruens' time on the MBA programme, was known as the Institute of Financial Management. This was a partnership between MBS and the University of Wales, Bangor. Now the school, which was renamed MBS Worldwide in 2002, is fully part of MBS.

*In the mid-1990s, workshops were held in Bangor or in Manchester but today they are held at Manchester or at MBS Worldwide's other permanently staffed overseas centres in Dubai, Hong Kong, Singapore, Jamaica and Dublin.

*The school offers a suite of distance learning programmes including a DBA (Doctor of Business Administration) and three profession-based MBA programmes:

MBA for Financial Managers and Finance Professionals, MBA for Engineering Business Managers, and an MBA for Construction Executives. MBS Worldwide is to launch a distance learning general MBA - the Manchester Global MBA - next month.

*The term "distance learning", however, is something of a misnomer when applied to MBS Worldwide because of the amount of face-to-face interaction that students experiencevia weekend and other workshops.MBS Worldwide students get 50 hours of face-to-face contact with thefaculty staff per semester (250 hours over the whole MBA), which is approximately two-thirds of the time that a full-time, campus-based student would get.


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post May 14 2007, 12:33 PM

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yeah, i notice the word 'Malaysia' is missing.....

but if you visit its website, u'll find the word dere.....www.mbs-worldwide.ac.uk

if anyone has any queries on MBS MBA, you can liaise with Dr Marie directly. She's fast in responding; marie@sunway.edu.my

this programme is more like a distance learning but with contact hours with UK professors. I find it interesting as we can opt to attend its workshops (3 consecutive full days for each module) anywhere globally (of course we gotto budget for it)

well, MBA might not be the ultimate path towards a better job prospect but it will become useful one day when the time comes (especially those thinking of working out of M'sia)

cheers biggrin.gif
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post Sep 17 2007, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Sep 16 2007, 05:34 PM)
@xcutelilgal,
You will also need about RM100k smile.gif  And, the MBS MBA *should* be good... very good smile.gif
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hi. 1st sem here wif MBS MBA.....

My intake was a little lucky as we got 25% bursary, so total course is RM70k. I'm not sure wif the next intake though.

My brother was from UM MBA. The difference for both is MBS MBA is totally on real life case study (definitely no spoon feed, need a lot of research), whereas UM MBA is more to books basis.

As MBS MBA is a distant learning wif 3/4 contact hours wif UK prof (grouped into 3 full days per module, therefore dun need to attend weekly classes), u can be well assured dat the quality is similar of doing fulltime in UK.

cheers smile.gif

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post Oct 6 2007, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 21 2007, 10:54 PM)
isnt MBS MBA programmes catered mainly for engineers and finance professionals...it is not a general MBA. easier to get in...
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The engineering one is catered for general MBA with 1 or 2 modules related to engineering.

Cheers thumbup.gif


Added on October 6, 2007, 11:22 pm
QUOTE(spishl @ Oct 3 2007, 07:14 PM)
yipee, i'm on my way to start my mba course

the GMAT test is horrible, it takes me 1 month to prepare
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one mth is considered short edi lor.....gmat.com and businessweek advice to prepare 3 months ahead leh...

how do u fair?? i did twice coz the 1st one sucks.....

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post Oct 7 2007, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Oct 7 2007, 05:11 PM)
im planning to take mba at sunway instead segi....early nexy year intake..
betwn can u pm me some sample of MBA stuff like assignment & etc...
got any preparation i need to do???now i trying to read magazine & some management book to gain some idea......
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u mean MBS MBA??
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post Oct 9 2007, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Oct 9 2007, 04:25 PM)
not afford for MBS....im taking the Victoria MBA...
or shud i still consider SEGI?
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hi...depends wat u wan from ur MBA. Like me, I plan to go UK. Dat's why i took a UK MBA. I hv frens taking Aust MBA coz they plan to go der.

If u jz need it for extra knowledge, then local MBA is good enough. tongue.gif

Cheers biggrin.gif
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post Oct 9 2007, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Oct 9 2007, 06:38 PM)
thats what i heard that segi more above age ppl study compare to sunway(more younger age)....u know what i mean....
the other things is the fees differencess...sunway is 35k...segi only 28k.....can this difference justify for sunway is better?
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like dat ah?? MBS is the best edi lor..... tongue.gif

coz mostly (me not included) higher mgmt ppl only can afford.....kakakkakak
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post Oct 10 2007, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Oct 10 2007, 05:51 AM)
It is true that MBS has a much higher rank for its MBA programmes than Nottingham. But not only is it more expensive than the NUBS MBA, it has an age requirement which is 27 and it takes approx 2 1/2 yrs to 3 yrs to complete as compared to the one year full time at NUBS! Even for ppl like me who can get exemptions, it will take a minimum of 2 years!

And obviously, i reckon it may be harder to get in! And if it matters, NUBS offers a general MBA along with specialized MBA programmes for finance pros tho not for engineering pros i think!
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The age and working experience requirements actually are good things. Coz MBA is about sharing and applying real life business into the theory.

I can share some of the case studies we've done so far. This sem I took Marketing Strategy, International Business and Business Info System (1/2 module; meaning this sem do half only lor, heheh).

MS - We studied Virgin (Richard Branson one), Marks & Spencer, McD during workshops by fly in lecturer. Done 2 assignments edi. All are based on application of mktg thingy in business world (yup, need to apply to an organisation u r familiar with)

International Business - workshop early Nov. So far, 1st assignment is based on case studies for Timken (US company). We need to recommend whether Timken shud entry into European mkt.

BIS - 1 assignment this sem. Based on Carr's critism and write about Web 2.0 technology in an organisation. (Frankly, none of my IT frens heard this before. Luckily I found a web programmer from my company dat is able to shed some light. 2500 - 3000 words)

Cheers biggrin.gif

p/s: u need to read businessweek, financial times, economics thumbup.gif

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post Oct 10 2007, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Oct 10 2007, 10:04 AM)
@Melon
wow....it's totally different from Segi's MBA...yours sounded more professional...heheh...i guess that's y there is a Rm70k difference...hehe...
we have flown in lecturers in part 2, not part 1..

My Marketing management (should be the same as your MS) is just a marketing plan for an imaginary company..(thanks tinkerbel.. notworthy.gif )...but we do have case studies on McD, Air Asia, Walmart and some other companies..

IB: Assignment is not based on any company but we have to invest in a foreign company, also create an imaginary company, evaluate the GDP, FDI of the country, various ways to invest and something like that (I got an A rclxm9.gif  whistling.gif ...hehehe)
I did my business computing(that's what they called it in segi, i think now changed to business systems or something like that, but basically everything is the same) on Nicholass Carr's critism as well....

Do you have "IT Doesn't Matter" (i assume you are doing this critism, since it's the more famous one from Carr).  To buy it from HBR is USD7, but you could get it free from Carr's Blog, just click the next part to read more.....The only difference from the one in his blog and the one being sold is that the one being sold includes the replies from other people to the article...quite a nice read as well...

Anyway, I did about 3k words on that...let me know if you want to "refer" to my assignments....I think i bout a B for that...cant really remember..hahah.... notworthy.gif
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wow...urs is on Web 2.0 as well?? same critism....sigh, dunno y this fella create such a controversial issue..... rclxub.gif

u hv very good marks der......for MS, the highest marks for M'sia team is only 64 (not me) and IB, globally top is only 76 (m'sia top is 70) sweat.gif

on average, globally only scored ard 60 marks shocking.gif


Added on October 10, 2007, 10:43 am
QUOTE(goliath @ Oct 10 2007, 10:23 AM)
When you guys/girls started your MBA, do you have any business backgrounds at hand, i.e. a degree in business studies, accounting etc?

I am wondering how hard would it be for a non-business degree holder, i.e. engineer, programmer etc to cope up with lectures in MBA..
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i'm a degree holder in biz....taking engineering for biz managers (naming convention only, actually the core modules are less finance only....hehehehe). So, u can see dat many of my team mates r engineering background.....and so far they r coping well tongue.gif

IMO, i dun think der's any difference with the degree background as we r all infants in MBA laugh.gif laugh.gif (maybe i was from local degree punya pasal kua)

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post Oct 10 2007, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(DerekKuah @ Oct 10 2007, 02:30 PM)
for me i only concern like us is from eng backgound(technical) & take mBa will be difficult to cope oni...so like managment term....finance, marketing...blaa blaa....all i know abt marketing is 4p....but i heard now got 5p's.....i had look into those 12 module...i been working in production line(operation) & now into project management....so i believe some module i would face difficult to understand or cope...but for finance, IT, human resource...i doubt lehh?
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refer to my post 365 above.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Oct 17 2007, 10:58 AM)
how about UKM n UM ?
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local Uni's MBA only costs about RM20k.

My bro was from UM. Same thing as he did his degree. Nothing interesting sweat.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(jasperng @ Oct 17 2007, 11:41 AM)
hihi, may i ask what is MBS ? @@

@melon
Are you taking MBA in Nottingham Malaysia?
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i'm taking MBS (Manchester Business School) MBA at Sunway U. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(jasperng @ Oct 17 2007, 12:03 PM)
o. Is MBS good ? O_o ...
Im currently taking E&E engineering but I plan to take master in business to widen my prospects and knowledge. I read some of the previous posts and found out that many ppl who's taking MBA come from engineering background and they have no problem coping it. Im elated to know that because I have the same doubt too.

Anyway, I want to ask about the MBA at Sunway U. Is the whole course being conducted in Malaysia? How long is the duration if Im from engineering background. How much are you paying for the whole course?
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u mean MBS, rite?? coz Sunway U is jz a place for us to attend our workshops/tutorials/exams. Everything else are from UK. I have written a fair bit of wat we've done so far in this semester in previous posts.

Shud you need more info, u can PM me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 17 2007, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(jasperng @ Oct 17 2007, 03:31 PM)
That means the whole course is in Malaysia? do you go to UK for the final year or something ? @@ I wish to go UK to get it ^^
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if u hv the budget, u can attend the workshops at other countries ard the world.

I plan to attend one in UK when i hv the budget.... brows.gif brows.gif

Workshops are done 100% via UK lecturers. This MBS MBA has 3/4 contact hours as compared to its fulltime version.

However, due to its pricey fees, not many ppl can afford. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(aicilef @ Oct 17 2007, 11:49 PM)
For me, if affortable... I won't stay in Malaysia!
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yeah, if only i hv RM300k...i'll be in Manchester rite now (i got the fulltime one actually, sighhhhhhhh) cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Oct 18 2007, 11:02 AM)
Why does it take one year to finish a UK based MBA, while many US based MBA programs take two years to finish?
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Most of UK MBA are 1 year coz it's an intensive one. More classes per week whereas US (as usual) take things slowly and they actually have summer break, so 1 year is actually 9 mths of studies..... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jasperng @ Oct 18 2007, 01:43 PM)
what do you mean by that statement ? 3/4 contact hours meaning lecturer hours ?

How many students in your badge currently ? @@

and why do you use the term "workshop" instead of "subject"? So, you are saying that I can take few workshops at UK ?
Is the fulltime version only available in UK ?
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err....r u really 1984?? coz the min age requirement is 26/27 years old.......

we call it module....every module will has a workshop which consists of 3 full days.

of coz fulltime is only in UK. MBS fulltime will be 18mths; 12mths in classes; 3 mths internship, and 3 mths student exchange wif other B-School.
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QUOTE(TheDarkness @ Oct 18 2007, 02:50 PM)
Does anyone know any MBA which is conducted during weekends? I travel overseas at least once a month during weekdays, so weekends are my only options.

I've been to some previews - Nottingham, Strathclyde (CDC) & UOB (Unity College) and it seems that CDC is the only one which conducts the classes on weekends.

Any advice?

Thanks.
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well, u can consider MBS if u hv the budget as its schedule is quite flexible. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Oct 18 2007, 05:27 PM)
I doubt that top US MBA programs are slower paced than the top UK MBA programs, yet even with summer breaks you're studying for 18 months in the US and only 12 months in the UK. Is it worth spending the extra time? Do you learn anything more? I can't really tell by looking just at the syllabus, but it seems as if there are far more elective courses in the US MBA programs.

I'm leaning more towards the UK MBA programs simply because they're cheaper biggrin.gif
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well, dat's as per my own finding la when i apply to the fulltime mba last year end....my samples are LBS (most expensive in UK and not any cheaper than US), Oxford, Cambridge, MBS, Ross B-School, Uni of Chicago, Berkeley.



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