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post Mar 17 2007, 04:57 PM

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icic.... 10x for ur explaination....
btw, since ACCA is external exam paper, mean if sumone self study then pay exam fees can take up ACCA? or must reach certain requirement?

then how bout MMU degree? i cant found it in its website... I know that UCSI degree can exempted from part 1 and part 2.

hah...a quite funny question here. if i take up tarc diploma, i will be exempted till paper 2.2. Then can i sit for 2.3 till 2.6 for the 1st half year. then later i take the part 3 optional and core paper together, so if i pass all in 1st attempt, then i can get my ACCA cert in 3 years?
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yes you can self study and enter for exams, provided you paid the exams fees to ACCA.

in TARC advance diploma, you do not sit for papers as you like.

in Year 1 1st sem would be paper 2.3 & 2.4, 2nd sem 2.5 & 2.6, 3rd sem industrial training. all part 2 papers are internally assessed. you are eligible to resit once (assignment marks will be exlcuded) if you fail at the 1st attempt. if you fail again, you would have to take external papers.

in Year 2 no exemption is granted. you sit for both internal and external papers. internal papers are usually easier than external papers. if you fail internal paper but fail external paper (vice versa), you will have a hard time. i'm not sure further details as i left during year 1 tongue.gif

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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Mar 17 2007, 12:26 AM)
icic.... 10x for ur explaination....
btw, since ACCA is external exam paper, mean if sumone self study then pay exam fees can take up ACCA? or must reach certain requirement?

then how bout MMU degree? i cant found it in its website... I know that UCSI degree can exempted from part 1 and part 2.

hah...a quite funny question here. if i take up tarc diploma, i will be exempted till paper 2.2. Then can i sit for 2.3 till 2.6 for the 1st half year. then later i take the part 3 optional and core paper together, so if i pass all in 1st attempt, then i can get my ACCA cert in 3 years?
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ya,since acca is external exam,so actually u can self study and pay exam fees and go for ur exam..jus sometime we need some guidance from the lecturers to prepare the exam well only...the min requirement are as prescribed in the acca website...


for the exemption,pls check urself at the following link:

https://portal.accaglobal.com/accaweb/faces...tionsTable.jspx

it is not funny actually,this is basically jus u discontinue ur tarc diploma and come back to taking the external urself,u can get ur acca in 3 yrs provided everything runs smoothly... brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Mar 17 2007, 04:57 PM)
yes you can self study and enter for exams, provided you paid the exams fees to ACCA.

in TARC advance diploma, you do not sit for papers as you like.

in Year 1 1st sem would be paper 2.3 & 2.4, 2nd sem 2.5 & 2.6, 3rd sem industrial training. all part 2 papers are internally assessed. you are eligible to resit once (assignment marks will be exlcuded) if you fail at the 1st attempt. if you fail again, you would have to take external papers.

in Year 2 no exemption is granted. you sit for both internal and external papers. internal papers are usually easier than external papers. if you fail internal paper but fail external paper (vice versa), you will have a hard time. i'm not sure further details as i left during year 1  tongue.gif
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ic...10x for ur explaination....u left on the 2nd year? Y? TARC is a bad choice for ACCA?

QUOTE(coolly @ Mar 17 2007, 05:17 PM)
ya,since acca is external exam,so actually u can self study and pay exam fees and go for ur exam..jus sometime we need some guidance from the lecturers to prepare the exam well only...the min requirement are as prescribed in the acca website...
for the exemption,pls check urself at the following link:

https://portal.accaglobal.com/accaweb/faces...tionsTable.jspx

it is not funny actually,this is basically jus u discontinue ur tarc diploma and come back to taking the external urself,u can get ur acca in 3 yrs provided everything runs smoothly... brows.gif  brows.gif
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oo...thx for that link....
so mean if sumone is hardworking enuf, he actually can juz use distance learning way..study at home then go to exam every half year?

hah...actually im thinking to do both on the same time....adv. diploma as a back up....i juz wonder shud i speed up to get my ACCA cert?

btw, wanna ask....ACCA cert from TARC or from SUNWAY or from any institution carry the same weight? I think by logically it shud be the same, but i wonder how bout the fact? Mayb big 4 or other medium firm prefer SUNWAY....
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excuse me..can anyone help me clear my doubts.im a final year accounting student frm private uni got full exemptions frm MIA but is it a COMPULSORY to work in audit firm first for 3 years before i get my CA or chartered accountant title ? can i start working some where else like in a bank or comercial side as internal auditor..?? i dun like working in audit firm becos it's like im wasting my chances to get high paid..maybe can get experience but i think i must grab my chances in commercial b4 it closes rite..maybe there will b no 2nd chance.


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QUOTE(shank @ Mar 18 2007, 05:41 AM)
excuse me..can anyone help me clear my doubts.im a final year accounting student frm private uni got full exemptions frm MIA but is it a COMPULSORY to work in audit firm first for 3 years before i get my CA or chartered accountant title ? can i start working some where else like in a bank or comercial side as internal auditor..?? i dun like working in audit firm becos it's like im wasting my chances to get high paid..maybe can get experience but i think i must grab my chances in commercial b4 it closes rite..maybe there will b no 2nd chance.
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why not check the mia website for the practical experience requirement or refer to mia staff so that u get a clearer answer....

in my opinion,i dont think it is compulsory to work in audit for 3 yrs...even acca does not required that...
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Mar 17 2007, 07:37 PM)
ic...10x for ur explaination....u left on the 2nd year? Y? TARC is a bad choice for ACCA?
oo...thx for that link....
so mean if sumone is hardworking enuf, he actually can juz use distance learning way..study at home then go to exam every half year?

hah...actually im thinking to do both on the same time....adv. diploma as a back up....i juz wonder shud i speed up to get my ACCA cert?

btw, wanna ask....ACCA cert from TARC or from SUNWAY or from any institution carry the same weight? I think by logically it shud be the same, but i wonder how bout the fact? Mayb big 4 or other medium firm prefer SUNWAY....
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ACCA is world wide recognised so it does not really matter which college you obtain the cert from. but mind you, TARC adv diploma provides both ACCA and adv diploma cert upon graduation PROVIDED you passed ext. and int. exams within the time frame. no doubt, the pressure is doubled too. rclxub.gif

TARC is not a bad choice for ACCA but i left because i didn't feel like taking the advance diploma and therefore, i'm not willing to take up the extra stress. moreover, i've studied 2 years there for my diploma. xien jor...wanna go out and try something new smile.gif


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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Mar 18 2007, 01:55 PM)
ACCA is world wide recognised so it does not really matter which college you obtain the cert from. but mind you, TARC adv diploma provides both ACCA and adv diploma cert upon graduation PROVIDED you passed ext. and int. exams within the time frame. no doubt, the pressure is doubled too. rclxub.gif

TARC is not a bad choice for ACCA but i left because i didn't feel like taking the advance diploma and therefore, i'm not willing to take up the extra stress. moreover, i've studied 2 years there for my diploma. xien jor...wanna go out and try something new  smile.gif
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ic....double pressure? I thought juz need to study the same thing but exam twice...haha....if exam once oso need to study, exam twice oso need to study....so shudnt be a big problem....

btw, so try what later? obtain degree?
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QUOTE(coolly @ Mar 18 2007, 01:24 PM)
why not check the mia website for the practical experience requirement or refer to mia staff so that u get a clearer answer....

in my opinion,i dont think it is compulsory to work in audit for 3 yrs...even acca does not required that...
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yup coolly.i checked MIA website and this is what they stated..


Passed any of the final examination specified in *Part I of the First Schedule of the Accountants Act,
1967 and gain 3 years of working experience in the service of chartered accountant
or in a Government department, bank, insurance company, local authority or
other commercial, financial, industrial or professional organisation.

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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Mar 18 2007, 03:38 PM)
ic....double pressure? I thought juz need to study the same thing but exam twice...haha....if exam once oso need to study, exam twice oso need to study....so shudnt be a big problem....

btw, so try what later? obtain degree?
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post Mar 19 2007, 01:58 AM

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icic.....10x yea...since we shudnt discuss it in public...moind to give me ur msn....hehe.....juz want to know more.....10x ya if u dun mind....
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should`nt we meet the requirement that the experience we need must be supervised by someone who also ACCA qualified?

i want to know if you choose different places apart of audit firms you MUST be supervised by a mentor who is qualified? i also quite confused with this MIA and other professional exam requirement, can someone clarify here please?

like can acca affiliate be supervised by mia mentor? etc..
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post Mar 19 2007, 10:22 PM

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I heard that tarc will hand pick lecturer evaluation form before submit it to UK for assessment.
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aiks...can someone tell me how is the ACCA?how is the future of ACCA?bla bla bla...
i'm just a graduated form 5 student.
now confused between engineering and ACCA...
and where is the best college which offered ACCA?SUNWAY?
heard that the sunway is 100% exam marks, dun hv those projects marks. so if fail in exam then means fail.is it?
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Mar 19 2007, 10:22 PM)
I heard that tarc will hand pick lecturer evaluation form before submit it to UK for assessment.
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Haha.... rclxms.gif good job! That's what i said earlier.....although we have lecturer evaluation form, but we do not know whether those evaluation was remitted to ACCA ext examiners for review....so no matter how bad u wrote about a lecturer also useless.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lcyeap90 @ Mar 19 2007, 11:17 PM)
aiks...can someone tell me how is the ACCA?how is the future of ACCA?bla bla bla...
i'm just a graduated form 5 student.
now confused between engineering and ACCA...
and where is the best college which offered ACCA?SUNWAY?
heard that the sunway is 100% exam marks, dun hv those projects marks. so if fail in exam then means fail.is it?
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ACCA guarantee you a bright future, you can make more money than engineer after 5 - 10 years. But to complete the ACCA is tough. Btw, I'm an engineering student while my gf taking acca, hahaha
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QUOTE(niu_niu @ Mar 18 2007, 11:00 PM)
I think it's easy to talk. Im facing the same problem mentioned by roy_pck. The pressure is really unbearable for those who used to relax. IMO, for some of TARC's core papers, the lecturers didnt performed as expected by the students. Therefore, we doubled up our pressure by attending classes at KSA, Segi, FTMS and McO. This is very common in TARC. Actually we do not need 2 do this is if our own lecturers taught us well. I'm just being transperant and do not have the intention to talk bad about TARC here publicly.
Recently, course tutor just told us that TARC optional papers results were quite dissapointing because we do not meet the world passing rate. The school was quite worry about the "premier plus" status and was unsure whether TARC can maintain it or not. Even the Head of School came for us during lecture and address the problem with us. As being said, they told us that they will give us all we need if we requested.... yawn.gif fed up to listen to such phrase ady. I thk the school shd know where's the root of the problem but somehow they didnt do anything to correct it. In addition, TARC is also interested to apply for the platinum status for the new coming syllabus...A big question mark here!
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OMG!! Your batch of student is poorer than last batch of students. (my batch)

at least we met the wordwide passing rate for the optional papers!! Got some prize winners also.

Anyway, what is platinum status ? Frankly, TARC lecturer remuneration is just OK, teaching in Kasturi or other college give u more flexible time & higher pay!!
Andrew Pang will never teach in TARC with such remuneration !!

We pay so little, can't expect too much... And TARC so generous in giving out scholarship !! State any college that (untill now)still give 100% tuition fee waiver to SPM 9As students.... (Some demand 11A1 now)

TARC is a good choice anyway!!
Sunway so expensive blink.gif

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Mar 20 2007, 09:09 AM)
OMG!! Your batch of student is poorer than last batch of students. (my batch)

at least we met the wordwide passing rate for the optional papers!! Got some prize winners also.

Anyway, what is platinum status ? Frankly, TARC lecturer remuneration is just OK, teaching in Kasturi or other college give u more flexible time & higher pay!!
Andrew Pang will never teach in TARC with such remuneration !!

We pay so little, can't expect too much... And TARC so generous in giving out scholarship !! State any college that (untill now)still give 100% tuition fee waiver to SPM 9As students.... (Some demand 11A1 now)

TARC is a good choice anyway!!
Sunway so expensive  blink.gif
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Hah....pay less then expect less, right?
btw, TARC scholarship 100% give to candidate who score 9As above? NO any T&C? My frenz say that later need to maintain CGPA only can get 100% tuition fee waiver, if got bad result then have to pay back the money that last time no pay also....
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absolutely agree with you niu_niu. din't mean to critise TARC but their ACCA lecturers are really nowhere outside lecturers standard. instead of wasting the money paying TARC tuition fees and seeking outside tuitions, i rather study outside. IMO, advance diploma doesn't mean much if you have got ACCA. unlike sunway college, TARC were granted 'premier plus' status mainly due to its campus environment and facilities, not the student's passing rate itself lo tongue.gif

in short, it's good to study diploma in TARC if you are looking for relax campus life. but after diploma... hmm.gif

Added on March 20, 2007, 5:33 pmjust a reminder to all form 5 graduates (or any newbies), please refer to the pinned topics and spend some time do some research in ACCA forum before asking questions like 'what's so good bout ACCA? where will ACCA lead me to? which college is good for ACCA? etc etc'...your co-operations are much appreaciated smile.gif

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I've a few question:

a)If graduate with advanced diploma without ACCA, is it better to work with bank or work with accounting firm which one have a better future
b)If graduate with ACCA, is it better to work with bank or work with accounting firm which one have a better future
c)If work with bank, will my experience be recognized by MIA ?


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