thank you very much for your reply. I think I have 8 weeks from the date of intake. I have completed my ACCA. By any chance, do you know any firm looking for short term employment? Willing to work below market rate.

Hello! Any big 4 sg - audit sifu here?

2018 PwC Advisory salary:

1. Associate (~RM3,800)
2. Senior Associate (~RM5,000)
3. Assistant Manager (~RM7,000)
4. Manager (~RM10,000)
5. Associate Director (~RM15,000)
6. Executive Director (~RM23,000)

Add roughly 5-10% for Consulting payscale.

Very nice

PwC Audit dont have AM this position anymore starting this year. they replace it with 1 more Senior level grade.

This post has been edited by tankwek: Jul 31 2018, 07:53 PM

In deloitte, for the job 'Audit and Assurance Staff Assistant', it equal or same as the audit associate role? anyone knows? Thanks.

So I sent my application for internship to 3 big4, except D(they dont have the position atm) on last monday.
2 acknowledged my application except K(i wonder why)

So its been a week or more, should I call them to follow up like hows the process ongoing now or should i just wait?

have to admit its quite uneasy to sit here and hopefully get a phone call from them

This post has been edited by babablacksheep999: Aug 4 2018, 03:27 AM

> for real?

Of course I do want an internship from big4
For the obvious reason *cough* and also to try out the culture and such before actually work in there in future,well hopefully
Been preparing for this since SPM ended, yea so kinda scared-excited combo rn(since no news from any big4 yet )

Actually I made an application for audit internship but i always open for new stuff

Will PM you in a sec

Heard Big4 advisory promotion is similar to professional exams passing rate (Ie: 30% to 40%). One may take an additional 1 to 2 years longer to get promoted compared to assurance staffs. Heard PwC pays the most for advisory and the remuneration will reflects the staff performance. However, it’s not easy to reach that KPI and its highly dependent on projects / deals.

Hi. I have recently graduated with a Accounting and Finance degree and am joining a Big 4's business tax advisory in this September and planning to take a professional qualification as a part time student. I am considering between ICAEW and ACCA.

1) how tough is it to work and study part time?
2) Is there any suggestion or advice for which professional qualification to go for? The reason why I am contemplating is because ICAEW gives me exposure to UK tax while ACCA gives exposure to Malaysian tax. I have basic knowledge on UK tax (really basic) and minimal knowledge on malaysia's corporate tax/business tax advisory. Will it be very tough to apply UK tax knowledge into Malaysia's tax system?

I am willing to put effort to learn.

Hope to hear your wise suggestions

>ACCA or ICAEW?
If I were you, I will take ACCA first then ICAEW. I heard you cant be promoted to manager level without ACCA. So yea thats this.

> how tough is it to work and study part time?
-You might get very tired during class after work, so remember to get some coffee or tea. Usually part time course consists night and weekend class.
-Planning is everything. And make sure at least spend some time to study every day. Dont wait until the last month you will fail. As an ACCA student, make sure you do alot practices. It helps.

>MY tax or UK tax?
If you are working in malaysia, shouldnt you be taking malaysia tax? Plus thats alot changes in local tax recently, you have to keep yourself up to date as well.

I don't think there's a point of doing icaew following acca, it's like taking two degrees in the same area no? I'm no accountant but that doesn't sound right

Yea but some people do hold several accounting cert at once
Like the Chong Kwai Fatt
that one is legend

the first page of his every book
fuiyohh all the certifications

You can still opt for UK tax variant in ACCA.

The debate between ICAEW and ACCA are usually heavily discussed among fresh grads and students.

Instead, employers are looking at your skill sets and performance. That's their priority. Choose whichever prof qualifications you feel comfortable with. It's the same thing.

Even Big Four now prefers non-accounting graduates such as engineering and IT (although they expect them to pursue a professional accounting qualification upon employing them)

Any Big4 taking engineering graduates? If so, is it consultancy?

Very true. Your statement is reflective of the current practice.

To put it another word, there are plenty of auditors out there and even Big4 auditors are no longer a competitive advantage as it used to be. Most got reality check during interview when they see their fellow colleagues going for the same post during interview. That’s why some even pursue MBA / CFA to further distinguish their self.

Yes, Audit and Assurance Staff Assistant is equivalent as Audit Associate role.

Thank you for your suggestion on how to juggle between work and part time studies. I will constantly keep my studies in check

I agree that pursuing MY tax is essential since I am working in malaysia.

If that is the case, may I know how will my Malaysian tax knowledge be applicable If i wish to transfer to Singapore in the future? The reason i am asking this is because I noticed several tax consultants have successfully transferred to Singapore Big4's tax division in this "Big 4 Recruitment Drive_v3" thread.


This post has been edited by workhardandlearn: Aug 12 2018, 08:56 PM