So then it's not a problem if SJKC is absorbed into this new module of National School right?

Send to international school

Best investment

Got chance ur kid can meet krony kids like what happen to jho low

Its all about making connections

Problem is bn/Minister didn't wanna admit that sjkc is doing better. So there will come out with mazlan lvl of syllabus that drag every one to drain.

How on earth u wanna parent to trust if there can't provide

can you read/write mandarin? no? then you're still a whole banana! not a halfling! lols
me oso canto at first but only start learn speaking mandarin from secondary school onwards. read/write still tabouli.

i oso wanted my kids to go SK if possible so i can be involved with them in their studies. if send them to SJKC, damn, like diff channel lah! chicken and duck talk. but then again, reason and logic have to be placed above all compared to sentiments if you want what's good for them (which parents doesnt?)

The SK in my town are producing rubbish, that eventually goes to the secondary school in my town that is one of the lousiest in Klang district. Gotta send my kids far far away for better environment.

u are being too humble!!! not only your town, pal.. its SK satu nation sama std as your town.. make sure u send yours kids far far away across the shore

Wei! You wanna challenge Maruah banana??? Jangan cabar! Banana bangkit! Bangkit!

My son goes to SJKC...ok lah, won't be chicken and duck talk, can teach him Bahasa and English. My wife from SJK, so can teach him Mandarin. So he speaks English with me and English/Mandarin with wife. I would like him to learn Canto as well, but time constraint simply doesn't allow so. So he just knows a bit of Canto. Learning 3 languages is difficult enough. Dialect , just let it be.

But the BM/Mandarin level nowadays..really insane...compared to what we study back then. Don't see reason to make it so hard. In the end, our generation BM also ok. But the English standard nowadays is so low compared to the BM/Mandarin level. So learning English outside is a must.

Only just noticed your post.

Pendidikan Moral is quite possibly the dumbest subject ever.

Whoever thought that morals can be taught by rote memorization followed by an examination is just    .

Seriously? Who ever took it to heart? Anybody? Does anyone still remember what they were taught? Was anyone actually even paying attention aside from those students who like to chase perfect A results? Even for such students, can they still remember or has it all already been forgotten the moment the exam is over, simply because its all a lot of irrelevant bullshit.

We are all pretty much the product of our parent's upbringing. Moral Studies didn't make anyone have an epiphany or become better people. If our parents brought us up well, we stayed that way unless there was a corrupting influence (which Moral Studies talks about but has ZERO effect). The troublemakers in my school continued to be troublemakers despite 5 years learning Pendidikan Moral. Fat lot of good it did.

It also smacks of discrimination. Why are Muslim students exempt from Pendidikan Moral? I find the explanation that Religious Studies is enough to be discriminatory. It basically implies that the other religions don't have proper morals compared to Islam.

If we're going to teach something like this, it should be done like Japan. Mandatory social studies for all.

Islamization ok apa...

it is so bad that i personally knows a few couple (both husband and wife) are bananas (coming from SK) but decided to send all their kids to either Private or SJKC. i dont even bother to ask why. sendiri sudah tahu.

u are being too humble!!! not only your town, pal.. its SK satu nation sama std as your town.. make sure u send yours kids far far away across the shore

That's true...provided you rich lah...if not rich, will be very tough....kids can learnt to become materialistic...heard story from friend...the kid ashamed he dun have Ah Mat to fetch him....told his friend his father is the driver/Ah Mat.
Exactly.
MsGaijinI think most people here can agree somewhat to your proposal, problem is, it can never be executed to become a reality thanks to the political condition. So in the end, just tok only. And the only options is as per currently....SRJK, international school etc.

similar to my plan.

English/Malay with me, Hakka/Mandarin with wife, Canto with grandparents. Let's see how they cope.

Personal experience, we have to cultivate in them a habit of reading from start. READ A LOT. that's where they build up on their vocabs. only when they have the vocabs then only we can train them to use a certain language as their inner thoughts language and subsequently how to articulate and pronounce out their thoughts train. otherwise it is very hard for one to learn a language. not aiming to be a master, but at least i want them to be able to hold a decent conversation.

http://www.nfnaf.my/2015/03/top-10-schools...r-spm-2014.html

top 5 all Malay majority school, so apa bilang?

FYI
"national schools must have mandarin, english, tamil n BM as compulsory subject but still keeping pendidikan islam as compulsory to muslim only n moral to non-muslim"
"for discipline part, teacher should be given permission to punish students"

This is basically how it is in SJKC, except the tamil part. So what you guys are proposing is basically turning all schools to SJKC with the addition of tamil as a compulsory subject

http://www.nfnaf.my/2015/03/top-10-schools...r-spm-2014.html

top 5 all Malay majority school, so apa bilang?

I also sent my children to national schools and during their primary years, they were conversing in BM. In the restaurant, other diners stare at us and some laugh at this Chinese family with 2 kids talking in BM. That was the last straw and thereafter I make sure that they converse in my native language or English but not forgetting the importance of BM in bolehland.

on the bold part
actually pendidikan islam teaching syllabus is on how to read al-quran (tajwid etc), ibadah(where they teach how to pray), aqidah(where they teach about type of sins n pahala in Islam n why should avoid doing sins) n the final part is adab(this is where all moral teaching like how to behave with neighbours, parents. society, country. heck even visiting sick people also got teaching on how to behave) makes it more or less same like moral teaching
so u can see, pendidikan islam teaching consists of moral teaching also
sorry, i don't know bout moral studies syllabus but in pendidikan islam also taught students about morality.
so it basically the same.just different that pendidikan islam added teaching on how to read al-quran n praying

n fyi, i still remember correctly n follows most (if not all) teaching in adab part(which is actually moral part)

again, i said i dunno about moral studies syllabus but it is ok if non muslim don't want that subject, but for me, muslim students should learn pendidikan islam because all teaching syllabus promote for being a good muslims.