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post Oct 14 2015, 06:08 PM

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Seems all of these has been planned since August 2015.

The All New Unifi

Remember the news that we carried about TM coming up with new plans for its UniFi subscribers? Prior to that, remember the quiet rollout of its UniFi 30 Mbps residential plan (with 50 Mbps Add-Ons) that was limited to only certain locations? Now, TM has come clean on its new long-term plan (and thinking) with its ‘The All New UniFi’ initiative.

TM organised a media briefing yesterday to give us a peek into what they’ve been cooking up for us but didn’t actually provide us the whole picture but rest assured, more announcements will be coming our way. Besides, the organising team did hint at something new within the next two weeks. Maybe even sooner.

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Looking at the plans themselves, the very first change comes with the way that they will be called. Going forward, the current VIP prefix will be dropped and it looks like TM is even doing away with the speed suffix after ‘UniFi’. This would mean that even the newly minted ‘UniFi 30’ will be getting a new name. This is in line with TM’s strategy of providing an ‘Unlimited Experience’ without thinking about speeds. This will also bode well for TM when it starts offering free speed bumps down the line, without having to actually rename the plans to whatever the current speeds that are being offered.

During the presentation, TM actually showed us media representatives two sets of plans but we can only talk about one for now. The plan will be called UniFi Advance, it will be for residential use and, as we’ve seen before, it will come with a 30 Mbps download speed. TM also said there will be a higher and lower tiers with different levels of pricing but details of those weren’t shared. TM opines that power users could always upgrade to its other offerings, and that these residential plans are not meant for that group anyway.

See image below for more details of and a comparison between the current VIP 10 and the new UniFi Advance:

user posted image

Looking at the slide above, the first question that comes to mind was the reduction in upload speed. TM assured us that it did an extensive analysis on the current usage trends and shared with us that almost 90% of its UniFi users do not even hit the 5 Mbps limit. TM believes that the 30 Mbps is what would matter in the end for customers when they decide on a plan.

Apart from speeds, TM is also confident of its HyppTV bundling as well as what it dubs as the ‘enhanced triple play’ Add-ons offerings (which consists of UniFi 50 Mbps speed bump, P1 ToGo plan, and Voice Pack), and hopes that these will be strong determining factors when customers decide on an internet plan. TM believes that by bundling the content with the plans, they offer better value compared to other ISP or even IPTV players in the market. TM also claims that it offers the best in the market in terms of the RM/Mbps pricing, and of the content bundling (which also includes sports as part of its channels). Adding further to the list of claims, TM feels that its content-selection are the most flexible in the industry. On a side note, the unbundling of HyppTV from the core internet plans was also something TM had discussed about in the planning stages.

user posted image

For business customers, TM will be offering retail solutions in the form of SurePay and SurePay POS, Microsoft Office 360, and more importantly, voice packages to go along with the internet plans. As with the residential plan above, business subscribers will also be able to get additional speed upgrades if necessary. To show that it means business, TM has also improved its money-back guarantee with a promise of restoring services within 12 hours; which applies to even major breakdowns.

user posted image

Talking a bit more on future plans, TM’s investment in P1 has already made inroads and the service will feature more prominently in TM’s infrastructure. This is already evident in the UniFi 30 plan/UniFi Advance plan with its P1 ToGo add-on offer. TM will be leveraging on P1 when the former starts rolling out to locations where going wireless would be a much more feasible option. This is important for TM to grow its coverage area as UniFi is not available even in some parts of the Klang Valley. This is partly because of how some developers have gone ahead and laid out fiber networks without even consulting TM. The issue about not following the correct guidelines is already being looked into and TM is actively working with developers right from the planning stages. Another feature that customers can expect to see in the future is a unified support as well as billing services for all of TM’s products, including UniFi and P1.

As with all new rollouts, when the new packages become available, users will still be able to hold on to their current plans, but only for as long as its life-cycle. When that comes to an end, customers will be informed of their options and TM promises to make the switch to the new plan as painless as possible. When queried about the issue of current subscribers moving to the new set-top-boxes, TM confirmed that it is possible to upgrade for about RM 400 (the exact price is still unconfirmed) but TM does not have any plans in place yet for a trade-in of the older device.

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On a personal note, the decision to reduce the upload speed does seem like a downgrade (since the current plan already gives 10 Mbps) but I’m sure that TM did the research it needed to come to that conclusion. Even then, when one considers that everyone you know is walking around with a camera (or two) in their hands, which would mean that everyone single one of them a content creator, the current explosion of video and image uploads is only going to trend upwards. Hopefully, there will be upgrades made to the speeds before it becomes a bottleneck.

Another point that I have to pick is about the content. With VOD services such as iflix, the number of channels available won’t matter anymore. People will be able to watch watch they want, when they want, and not be restricted to schedules. TM’s HyppTV Everywhere can already do that but it looks like this VOD service has gone completely under the radar. I’m assuming of course that this is because TM is concentrating on bigger pay TV opponents, which could already become irrelevant with the newer generation. We’re looking at people who consume on the go with whatever device they have with them. All said, here’s to hoping that consumer demands will push for the right upgrade path in future rollouts.
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ Oct 14 2015, 04:03 PM)
Wtf? I just upgraded to 30mbps with aneka for rm199, new plan they're planning to release at rm179? Can change plan?
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QUOTE(tai_digidestany @ Oct 14 2015, 06:08 PM)
Seems all of these has been planned since August 2015.

The All New Unifi

Remember the news that we carried about TM coming up with new plans for its UniFi subscribers? Prior to that, remember the quiet rollout of its UniFi 30 Mbps residential plan (with 50 Mbps Add-Ons) that was limited to only certain locations? Now, TM has come clean on its new long-term plan (and thinking) with its ‘The All New UniFi’ initiative.

TM organised a media briefing yesterday to give us a peek into what they’ve been cooking up for us but didn’t actually provide us the whole picture but rest assured, more announcements will be coming our way. Besides, the organising team did hint at something new within the next two weeks. Maybe even sooner.

user posted image

Looking at the plans themselves, the very first change comes with the way that they will be called. Going forward, the current VIP prefix will be dropped and it looks like TM is even doing away with the speed suffix after ‘UniFi’. This would mean that even the newly minted ‘UniFi 30’ will be getting a new name. This is in line with TM’s strategy of providing an ‘Unlimited Experience’ without thinking about speeds. This will also bode well for TM when it starts offering free speed bumps down the line, without having to actually rename the plans to whatever the current speeds that are being offered.

During the presentation, TM actually showed us media representatives two sets of plans but we can only talk about one for now. The plan will be called UniFi Advance, it will be for residential use and, as we’ve seen before, it will come with a 30 Mbps download speed. TM also said there will be a higher and lower tiers with different levels of pricing but details of those weren’t shared. TM opines that power users could always upgrade to its other offerings, and that these residential plans are not meant for that group anyway.

See image below for more details of and a comparison between the current VIP 10 and the new UniFi Advance:

user posted image

Looking at the slide above, the first question that comes to mind was the reduction in upload speed. TM assured us that it did an extensive analysis on the current usage trends and shared with us that almost 90% of its UniFi users do not even hit the 5 Mbps limit. TM believes that the 30 Mbps is what would matter in the end for customers when they decide on a plan.

Apart from speeds, TM is also confident of its HyppTV bundling as well as what it dubs as the ‘enhanced triple play’ Add-ons offerings (which consists of UniFi 50 Mbps speed bump, P1 ToGo plan, and Voice Pack), and hopes that these will be strong determining factors when customers decide on an internet plan. TM believes that by bundling the content with the plans, they offer better value compared to other ISP or even IPTV players in the market. TM also claims that it offers the best in the market in terms of the RM/Mbps pricing, and of the content bundling (which also includes sports as part of its channels). Adding further to the list of claims, TM feels that its content-selection are the most flexible in the industry. On a side note, the unbundling of HyppTV from the core internet plans was also something TM had discussed about in the planning stages.

user posted image

For business customers, TM will be offering retail solutions in the form of SurePay and SurePay POS, Microsoft Office 360, and more importantly, voice packages to go along with the internet plans. As with the residential plan above, business subscribers will also be able to get additional speed upgrades if necessary. To show that it means business, TM has also improved its money-back guarantee with a promise of restoring services within 12 hours; which applies to even major breakdowns.

user posted image

Talking a bit more on future plans, TM’s investment in P1 has already made inroads and the service will feature more prominently in TM’s infrastructure. This is already evident in the UniFi 30 plan/UniFi Advance plan with its P1 ToGo add-on offer. TM will be leveraging on P1 when the former starts rolling out to locations where going wireless would be a much more feasible option. This is important for TM to grow its coverage area as UniFi is not available even in some parts of the Klang Valley. This is partly because of how some developers have gone ahead and laid out fiber networks without even consulting TM. The issue about not following the correct guidelines is already being looked into and TM is actively working with developers right from the planning stages. Another feature that customers can expect to see in the future is a unified support as well as billing services for all of TM’s products, including UniFi and P1.

As with all new rollouts, when the new packages become available, users will still be able to hold on to their current plans, but only for as long as its life-cycle. When that comes to an end, customers will be informed of their options and TM promises to make the switch to the new plan as painless as possible. When queried about the issue of current subscribers moving to the new set-top-boxes, TM confirmed that it is possible to upgrade for about RM 400 (the exact price is still unconfirmed) but TM does not have any plans in place yet for a trade-in of the older device.

user posted imageuser posted image

On a personal note, the decision to reduce the upload speed does seem like a downgrade (since the current plan already gives 10 Mbps) but I’m sure that TM did the research it needed to come to that conclusion. Even then, when one considers that everyone you know is walking around with a camera (or two) in their hands, which would mean that everyone single one of them a content creator, the current explosion of video and image uploads is only going to trend upwards. Hopefully, there will be upgrades made to the speeds before it becomes a bottleneck.

Another point that I have to pick is about the content. With VOD services such as iflix, the number of channels available won’t matter anymore. People will be able to watch watch they want, when they want, and not be restricted to schedules. TM’s HyppTV Everywhere can already do that but it looks like this VOD service has gone completely under the radar. I’m assuming of course that this is because TM is concentrating on bigger pay TV opponents, which could already become irrelevant with the newer generation. We’re looking at people who consume on the go with whatever device they have with them. All said, here’s to hoping that consumer demands will push for the right upgrade path in future rollouts.
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This post has been edited by NubPro: Oct 14 2015, 06:11 PM
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post Oct 14 2015, 06:29 PM

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asking this on behalf of my friend.

anyone else on VIP5 that has no issue with latency/surfing/speedtest but can't play dota only?

the delay is very serious, he took video of his game.

and also pics of speedtest in speedtest1.unifi.my, ping sgp-1.valve.net, ping google.com -t, etc.

everything is good and normal.

his ping to SEA server is only 38ms.
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post Oct 14 2015, 06:33 PM

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get this from ads on website....

https://www.tm.com.my/iWant/

related for tomorrow event.... high chance on apple devices maybe plus new restructure internet plan....

but bit of regret upgrade awal2.... now promo got rm20 discount... hopefully tm adjusted the price for early subscriber....
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Yes, else it will be really unfair to those early adopters. mad.gif
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post Oct 14 2015, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Oct 14 2015, 06:33 PM)
get this from ads on website....

https://www.tm.com.my/iWant/

related for tomorrow event.... high chance on apple devices maybe plus new restructure internet plan....

but bit of regret upgrade awal2.... now promo got rm20 discount... hopefully tm adjusted the price for early subscriber....
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meaning whoever upgrade from 10,20 to 30 or 50mbps will get RM20 discount?
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post Oct 14 2015, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Oct 14 2015, 06:33 PM)
get this from ads on website....

https://www.tm.com.my/iWant/

related for tomorrow event.... high chance on apple devices maybe plus new restructure internet plan....

but bit of regret upgrade awal2.... now promo got rm20 discount... hopefully tm adjusted the price for early subscriber....
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another event after the previous event that announced the previous pricing ? so soon ? shocking.gif

well they had better qualify me for any price reduction or i'd be pissed vmad.gif

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Well, I guess I know why we early adopters are paying more. We keep our free calls to TM Fixed line which otherwise you will need to pay RM20 voice add-on.

In the new package, it is an option.

Too bad for us early adopters.

But keep finger crossed that they announce RM20 discount for all early adopters (hopefully but don't hope too much)

QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 14 2015, 05:40 PM)
Pity those early adopters, like me. cry.gif
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ Oct 14 2015, 05:59 PM)
I'm even worse, I just upgraded 2-3 weeks ago lol
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QUOTE(jolmy @ Oct 14 2015, 07:24 PM)
Well, I guess I know why we early adopters are paying more. We keep our free calls to TM Fixed line which otherwise you will need to pay RM20 voice add-on.

In the new package, it is an option.

Too bad for us early adopters.
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I don't get to keep free calls and many others also no free calls. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 14 2015, 07:29 PM)
I don't get to keep free calls and many others also no free calls. sweat.gif
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This is basically like those days, let's say you started with VIP10 for RM199, I started with VIP5 for RM149, then years later I upgraded to VIP10 with RM20 or RM30 discount, but you continue to be paying for VIP10 without discount. vmad.gif
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QUOTE(jolmy @ Oct 14 2015, 07:32 PM)
This is basically like those days, let's say you started with VIP10 for RM199, I started with VIP5 for RM149, then years later I upgraded to VIP10 with RM20 or RM30 discount, but you continue to be paying for VIP10 without discount.  vmad.gif
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Yeah. I know how it felt because I got RM 20 discount when I upgraded to VIP 10. I guess it's payback time now. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 14 2015, 07:36 PM)
Yeah. I know how it felt because I got RM 20 discount when I upgraded to VIP 10. I guess it's payback time now. sweat.gif
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I got RM30 discount upgrade to VIP10 last time.

Arghh... let's just keep finger crossed (but don't put too much hope) for any surprise announcements for early adopters like us. Preferably a RM20 discount la.
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QUOTE(jolmy @ Oct 14 2015, 07:39 PM)
I got RM30 discount upgrade to VIP10 last time.

Arghh... let's just keep finger crossed (but don't put too much hope) for any surprise announcements for early adopters like us. Preferably a RM20 discount la.
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Fine, then let me upgrade to 50Mbps with RM 229 then. rolleyes.gif
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After thinking about Unifi upgrade for the past week or so, I was thinking of going for 10 Mb. BUT the new package a few mins ago has changed my mind! 30 Mb at 179 + 20 (my wife makes >RM100 calls per month).

So for a slow rider with 2 Mb for the past few yrs, the 30 Mb will blow our minds at home surfing! Luckily they don't issue speeding tickets for internet traffic! Ha.

I assume that marketing people will not be calling customers now with even better offers eg free calls with the 179 package. Maybe after this promotion is over, they will throw in some freebies to encourage people to upgrade.

Cheerio.

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QUOTE(christina1 @ Oct 14 2015, 07:10 PM)
meaning whoever upgrade from 10,20 to 30 or 50mbps will get RM20 discount?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Oct 14 2015, 07:15 PM)
another event after the previous event that announced the previous pricing ? so soon ? shocking.gif

well they had better qualify me for any price reduction or i'd be pissed  vmad.gif
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based on post #889... leaked flyer state there promo price less rm20...

what to do, even the price reduction for 10mbps still no news even rm rm38 for 1 mbps still not heard.....

still envy the singaporean get 2gpbs at the rate of sgd90....
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 14 2015, 07:43 PM)
After thinking about Unifi upgrade for the past week or so, I was thinking of going for 10 Mb. BUT the new package a few mins ago has changed my mind! 30 Mb at 179 + 20 (my wife makes >RM100 calls per month).

So for a slow rider with 2 Mb for the past few yrs, the 30 Mb will blow our minds at home surfing! Luckily they don't issue speeding tickets for internet traffic! Ha.

I assume that marketing people will not be calling customers now with even better offers eg free calls with the 179 package. Maybe after this promotion is over,  they will throw in some freebies to encourage people to upgrade.

Cheerio.
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You should still try to get it for free whistling.gif There is a chance you might get free calls
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 14 2015, 07:40 PM)
Fine, then let me upgrade to 50Mbps with RM 229 then. rolleyes.gif
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Sorry fruitie but where to see that this rm20 discount if applicable for new subscribers or only for upgrades? This willl help me negotiate with tm who haven't installed for me.
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Oct 14 2015, 08:54 PM)
Sorry fruitie but where to see that this rm20 discount if applicable for new subscribers or only for upgrades? This willl help me negotiate with tm who haven't installed for me.
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I'm not sure. I can't see it either. blush.gif Guess you have to tell them and show them this promo sheet. blush.gif
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I was telling my brother in Aust about the latest Unifi promotion at RM179 for 30 Mb. That works out to be RM6 per Mb.

Good?

Wait you hear how much my brother is paying in Aust. He is using 300 Mb at RM0.7 per Mb!!! Ours is about 10 times more expensive.

Ya, ya, we are not the same, different std of living etc etc etc.

TM has a long way to go to be on par with other internationals.

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