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 The Official iPhone 6s/6s+ Discussion Thread | V1, Officially available on 16/10

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post Oct 5 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 5 2015, 11:24 AM)
Yup, battery life is fantastic! Certainly a big jump from 6+ last year. Do you have lots of tabs in Safari? I normally have 2-3 so it doesn't refresh when I get back in.
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2 tabs in Safari only. But it's LYN forum so it's still ok for me since I don't have to refresh manually.

Hopefully the battery will stay fantastic after a year or two laugh.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 5 2015, 10:46 AM)
I started using the 6S+ 64 since Friday. My impressions compared to the 6+ I had previously:

1. Battery life is a lot better. I am not sure if it's because of iOS or the chip but it obviously last much longer compared to my 6+

2. Speed is amazing. If you play games then you would notice everything loads up so much faster and graphics are crisp. Apart from that, I also notice faster 4G/Wifi on the same network so the new LTE chip in the phone did make a huge difference.

3. On paper the weight says 20g heavier. While it seems quite substantial (we're talking about 10% increase in weight), it's negligible.

4. The 3D Touch might not be very useful at this point in time because you can still easily navigate through normal methods.

5. The extra RAM makes iOS a lot smoother and you don't need to get into Safari waiting for the page to refresh. It stays as per where you left and same behavior like the iPad Air 2 which I have.

Conclusion: Overall, it's a great buy and am happy with it biggrin.gif
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Nice Review.

Questions to your reviews

1) Could battery life be better because the 6S+ had a new battery while your 6+ had a worn out battery?

2) Both the 6+ and 6S+ supports the latest Gen 2 LTE networks. But if you say faster 4G and Wifi I wonder why?

3) Thats reasonable. 20grams is not noticeable.

4) That we need to get the hang of it before being to fully utilize it.

5) Im sure the 2GB ram makes a lot of difference. But the main issue is that Safari doesnt needs to restart every time and that makes a lot of difference to me as I really hate the refresh everytime I open safari. thumbup.gif

Overall seems like a worthy upgrade even though the high price. thumbup.gif
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You must have one. You know you cant resist. flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
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I definitely can. Whether I want to or not is another story, ha ha...
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 5 2015, 11:32 AM)
Nice Review.

Questions to your reviews

1) Could battery life be better because the 6S+ had a new battery while your 6+ had a worn out battery?

2) Both the 6+ and 6S+ supports the latest Gen 2 LTE networks. But if you say faster 4G and Wifi I wonder why?

3) Thats reasonable. 20grams is not noticeable.

4) That we need to get the hang of it before being to fully utilize it.

5) Im sure the 2GB ram makes a lot of difference. But the main issue is that Safari doesnt needs to restart every time and that makes a lot of difference to me as I really hate the refresh everytime I open safari.  thumbup.gif

Overall seems like a worthy upgrade even though the high price.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks boss, my answers:

1) I bought the 6 when it was launched last year and changed to 6+ after that. Both are new units. I am very sure that even when I started using the 6+, the battery life was no match compared to 6S+. Normally the 6+ would last me a full day but the 6S+ goes all the way until the next day biggrin.gif I guess it must be the new A9 chip being more energy efficient.

2) I guess the iOS 9 Wifi Assist helps after all? For LTE, you can certainly feel the big difference. Loading websites are almost instant while the 6+ takes a bit more time. I am on Maxis btw.

3) I certainly don't mind carrying an extra 20g for the battery life and speed improvements this phone gives me.

4) I believe when more Apps utilizes this feature, it may be more useful. At present time, I rather use the normal method to get to the menu I'd like. Nevertheless, 3D Touch for the fish screen saver to move is a cool thing. My 4 year old son enjoyed it laugh.gif

5) 1GB RAM is certainly insufficient and not to mention the A8 chip on the 6+ last year. IMHO, Apple should use the A8X chip on iPad Air 2 for the 6+ and it would be snappier. Yes, the bloody website refresh every time we move back to Safari was a turn off.

It's a great upgrade and certainly not only limited to 4K video and 3D Touch. Personally, I feel that battery life and speed improvements are just as pivotal compared to the other features.
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QUOTE(prabjit93 @ Oct 4 2015, 03:53 PM)
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QUOTE(attw @ Oct 5 2015, 11:34 AM)
I definitely can. Whether I want to or not is another story, ha ha...
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 5 2015, 12:07 PM)
Thanks boss, my answers:

1) I bought the 6 when it was launched last year and changed to 6+ after that. Both are new units. I am very sure that even when I started using the 6+, the battery life was no match compared to 6S+. Normally the 6+ would last me  a full day but the 6S+ goes all the way until the next day biggrin.gif I guess it must be the new A9 chip being more energy efficient.

2) I guess the iOS 9 Wifi Assist helps after all? For LTE, you can certainly feel the big difference. Loading websites are almost instant while the 6+ takes a bit more time. I am on Maxis btw.

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1) My 6+ could easily get me through minimum 2 days usage. But then again it depends on the individual usage.

2) The 6+ with IOS 9 does come with Wifi Assist too. But I turn it off as I dont want data to be utilized when Im on Wifi. Maybe I should turn it back on and see if its much faster. nod.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 5 2015, 10:46 AM)
I started using the 6S+ 64 since Friday. My impressions compared to the 6+ I had previously:

1. Battery life is a lot better. I am not sure if it's because of iOS or the chip but it obviously last much longer compared to my 6+

2. Speed is amazing. If you play games then you would notice everything loads up so much faster and graphics are crisp. Apart from that, I also notice faster 4G/Wifi on the same network so the new LTE chip in the phone did make a huge difference.

3. On paper the weight says 20g heavier. While it seems quite substantial (we're talking about 10% increase in weight), it's negligible.

4. The 3D Touch might not be very useful at this point in time because you can still easily navigate through normal methods.

5. The extra RAM makes iOS a lot smoother and you don't need to get into Safari waiting for the page to refresh. It stays as per where you left and same behavior like the iPad Air 2 which I have.

Conclusion: Overall, it's a great buy and am happy with it biggrin.gif
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Thanks for your review, i had decided to upgrade my wife's 6+ as well smile.gif
waiting for Malaysia to launch and Telco Plan..
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3D Touch can be used with your own measure of how hard you want to press into the screen. The settings are available in the "Accessibility" section (why it's here, Apple? Why not in the Settings tab?).

I find that I'm fine with "Medium", although others cant master it and prefer to use "Light" instead. I find that "Light" makes it more likely for me to activate the "jiggle to uninstall apps" than "3D Touch". "Firm" is like really pressing hard, and I wouldn't advise using this, especially for ladies (or Ah Bengs) with long fingernails. tongue.gif

That picture below, you can test and to try how sensitive you want the 3D Touch to be, which is perfect to use the "Peek and Pop" feature. The pressure recognized is analog in nature, meaning that it does not register pressures as 1s and zeroes or a light switch (on and off), it detects increasing pressure as harder you press. Press in firm the picture pops into "preview" mode at full screen, press in even firmer, the photo pops into "Photos" app for full manipulation.

4K recording has been steady and pretty consistent in the OIS department. It may seem that color is much more pleasing on AMOLED screens on Samsung devices, but upon reviewing them for editing on my Mac, I'd prefer the iPhone's 4K recordings, less sharpening, soft natural quality to them.

LivePhoto is nice, I left it on still for not having to worry about storage space on this 128GB model. I'd consider leaving it off for smaller capacity models. LivePhoto thumbnail scrolling has this nice stop-motion quality to it when viewing through them, makes them stand out against all the normal still shots of the past.

Touch ID almost feels like a button now instead of a scanner, the moment you press it in, it grabs your fingerprint scans so fast, you'd swear it's works like a button already. For making sure it's not a fluke, I tried to see if it does unlock on an unscanned finger, and nope, it's a lockout.

First thing I did was turn off WiFi Assist, data hogger that thing, I had instances of utilizing 80% of my data quota SMSes coming in from Celcom more often than before it was available. Signal retrieval is pretty much improved all around, I used to have a dead zone around my place which consistently drops signal to 1 bar, and now, they're at least 4 bars on 4G. Full bars on 3G if I manually select it.

"Blazingly fast" would be the word I'd describe it. Bear in mind the iPhone 6 Plus isn't a slouch, but keeping up with my typing would be a task for the 6 Plus on iOS 9, the 6S Plus does that and keeps 20+ odd apps running in the background (during first setup I had more than that, approaching 30, to cross log-in between apps that signs in with social media credentials), and it is as fast as when I first opened it out of the box.

I rarely game on this, other than for the occasional Crossy Road and the new "The Martian" game with Apple Watch support on it. Battery life has improved so much that I'm comfortable leaving my Anker battery pack at home and travel light when I'm in town, even when the iPhone is tied to my Apple Watch via Bluetooth and notifications streaming in.

I use Apple Music (now discontinued, as I found Tidal to be better) and Tidal lossless music streaming subscription service HEAVILY when I'm outside, and this takes a hit on the battery life, but even so, it still lasts more than a day. When I'm with my Sennheiser Momentum M2, and in the mood for better quality than streaming music, I use the Onkyo HF player app and Kaisertone app to play FLAC files coded at 16bit/44.1kHz and DSD files through DoP conversion at 24bit 192kHz, and these takes even heavier toll than simple MP3 playback. Pipe the digital feed to the iFi or Hugo portable DACs, put on the Momentum, and the world outside fades away. By the end of the day, I usually get the 10% battery warning, but my end of the day usually ends around 11pm or midnight.

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Oct 5 2015, 12:59 PM)
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First thing I did was turn off WiFi Assist, data hogger that thing, I had instances of utilizing 80% of my data quota SMSes coming in from Celcom more often than before it was available. Signal retrieval is pretty much improved all around, I used to have a dead zone around my place which consistently drops signal to 1 bar, and now, they're at least 4 bars on 4G. Full bars on 3G if I manually select it.

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3 of my SG friends data quota finished because of this. So it's wise to turn off unless any exceed data will not be charged smile.gif
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Oct 5 2015, 01:06 PM)
3 of my SG friends data quota finished because of this. So it's wise to turn off unless any exceed data will not be charged smile.gif
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It's even more dangerous if you leave it on, and you're at home, thinking that your Wifi setup and coverage is adequate when it is not, and WiFI Assist sips your data without you knowing it, under the pretext of "assisting data downloads". It's now even more important to have your home WiFi working perfectly with your iPhone IF you choose to use WiFi Assist. I have signal drops in my place (I have too many devices running wirelessly in my home, it's congested sad.gif ) and if I didn't turn WiFi Assist off, and those WiFi signal drops in quality and WiFi Assist kicks in, I'll be sucked dry out of my data quota in no time.
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Oct 5 2015, 01:06 PM)
3 of my SG friends data quota finished because of this. So it's wise to turn off unless any exceed data will not be charged smile.gif
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If your wifi somehow become disconnected or something, the phone will automatically switch to your data plan. Imagine you are downloading a movie or a big app. sweat.gif Thats why I turned it off on day one I upgraded to IOS 9.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 5 2015, 01:43 PM)
If your wifi somehow become disconnected or something, the phone will automatically switch to your data plan. Imagine you are downloading a movie or a big app. sweat.gif  Thats why I turned it off on day one I upgraded to IOS 9.
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Yea, but seems like users are not aware of this as this is well hidden in the settings hmm.gif
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 5 2015, 01:43 PM)
If your wifi somehow become disconnected or something, the phone will automatically switch to your data plan. Imagine you are downloading a movie or a big app. sweat.gif  Thats why I turned it off on day one I upgraded to IOS 9.
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Yeah, they should have had Wifi assist disabled by default. It's all well and good if you're at home or in the office with a stable connection, but if you're out at some cafe or building where the connection drops out every now and then, I suspect you'll get data caps maxed out faster than normal.
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after 2 weeks still cant figure out how to work out 3d touch.
live photo was a nice feature
battery life:100% fully charged at 8am,3g is on until end of my working hours(7pm), then after that its on wifi.at the end of the night left 30-40%.is this decent?
speed/lag:a bit lag when I click on a link on facebook to read more(screen seems freezing for a bit)



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I'm in love with the size of the 6S but I really like the 6S+ battery life....which one is the better compromise?

should i follow the results below?


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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Oct 5 2015, 01:54 PM)
after 2 weeks still cant figure out how to work out 3d touch.
live photo was a nice feature
battery life:100% fully charged at 8am,3g is on until end of my working hours(7pm), then after that its on wifi.at the end of the night left 30-40%.is this decent?
speed/lag:a bit lag when I click on a link on facebook to read more(screen seems freezing for a bit)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkKnwU-NZo
yup, charge my phone 100% at 8am, by 11pm will be 20%+
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Oct 5 2015, 01:54 PM)
after 2 weeks still cant figure out how to work out 3d touch.
live photo was a nice feature
battery life:100% fully charged at 8am,3g is on until end of my working hours(7pm), then after that its on wifi.at the end of the night left 30-40%.is this decent?
speed/lag:a bit lag when I click on a link on facebook to read more(screen seems freezing for a bit)
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QUOTE(prabjit93 @ Oct 5 2015, 02:12 PM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkKnwU-NZo
yup, charge my phone 100% at 8am, by 11pm will be 20%+
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I had the same problem at first too, "new device syndrome" wanna tap harder also scared.

3D Touch requires deliberate and constant press. A gradual/slow increasing press will result in the app uninstall "jiggle". Just press the app icon like you're pressing to pop a bubble on a bubble wrap. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(KaiHD @ Oct 4 2015, 04:16 PM)
directly imported from US thats why cheaper. i did it because i wanted the verizon model.
now its a pain ‘cause warranty claim is troublesome - dealing with apple care now.

this year the 128 GB 6s+ is around RM 500 cheaper (if we're going by RM 4700 RRP)

and another good thing is the unlocked gsm model they sell in the US = the model sold in asia.
so warranty will have no issue claiming (according to vr tech, aasp in megan avenue 2 KL).

last year, the us gsm model != asia model - you'd have to get Sprint version.
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you got verizon model? the guys at apple store new york told me to get t-mobile, but t-mobile always dont have a stock
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 5 2015, 12:22 PM)
1) My 6+ could easily get me through minimum 2 days usage. But then again it depends on the individual usage.

2) The 6+ with IOS 9 does come with Wifi Assist too. But I turn it off as I dont want data to be utilized when Im on Wifi. Maybe I should turn it back on and see if its much faster.  nod.gif
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1) If your usage pattern allows you to have 2 days usage on 6+ then the 6S+ would probably give you 3 days or so. There's definitely improvement in this area.

2) If it's our own home, it shouldn't be much of an issue. We should know where are the spots where Wifi is weak/strong. For example, if you know that the balcony always don't have Wifi and yet you go YouTube there while smoking then blame it on Wifi Assist for using up the data plan on our network laugh.gif Of course if the user is non technical then yes, it can be a potential risk.

QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Oct 5 2015, 12:33 PM)
Thanks for your review, i had decided to upgrade my wife's 6+ as well smile.gif
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