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post Sep 30 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Sep 30 2015, 10:05 AM)
next iP7 will have waterproof yo wink.gif
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There's a video in YouTube showing 6S and 6S+ in water for more than an hour. The phone is still working perfectly fine after that smile.gif Unadvertised secret feature of iPhone 6S = some sort of waterproof.
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post Sep 30 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Boykidz93 @ Sep 30 2015, 03:01 PM)
It cannot be advertise, hahahaha later everyone take go swimming then device spoil, susah la Apple
The iPhones has got water indicators so if we take it for a swim and phone dies, Apple would say "sorry can't help" biggrin.gif I would really love it if I can talk on the phone while I'm bathing.
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post Oct 2 2015, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Oct 2 2015, 12:42 AM)
ayam got cash in hand. want to buy phone without contract. so better go to machine right?
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Any Apple dealers in MY or Apple Store. You can't go to telco because they won't sell outright to you anyway.
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post Oct 2 2015, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Connect2USales @ Oct 1 2015, 09:15 PM)
if you are doing business then you should aware that the usd513 is not nett profit. Apple spent so much on marketing, resellers margin, warranty and others too.
I believe you do not have the data but Apple is a company that spends very little money in marketing compared to the rest. Apple spends around $1.1B compared to Samsung approximately $14B. Apple is a brand/product that sells by itself and there's no need to even bother advertising.

If you drill down to Malaysian market for example, Apple has very limited adverts (compared to Samsung) and a lot of times it's the telco that advertises it. Apple's secret to success is to make people love the brand. When that happens, people will buy your products irregardless because they love it. Apple is very good at making extremely good margin out of their products and Apple earns a lot more for each iPhone sold compared to Samsung. This can also be seen based on their revenue (AAPL).

Note that I am taking Samsung as a comparison because at present time, they are still the no. 1 competitor to Apple.
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post Oct 2 2015, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Oct 2 2015, 01:19 AM)
ok noted. Now only suspending is the price liao.... hope it's customer friendly.. sweat.gif
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I can bet my left testicles that it definitely would not be lower than current iPhone 6/6+ biggrin.gif However, I would probably guess that it will be RM100-200 more.
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post Oct 2 2015, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Oct 2 2015, 01:32 AM)
if 1 200 more then current only still under 4k, acceptable lar. not until 4.1 k for 6s Plus 64gb... sweat.gif

btw, you better keep your left ball, coz it's not worth to use it to bet...
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The exchange rate is causing everything to be expensive. My first iPhone was a 3G and I have upgraded every year until now without miss smile.gif Back then it was cheap and today it's screwed. Buying an iPhone today is like buying a MacBook. Sometimes I feel that it's not worth it anymore but I simply love Apple products too much. Hence, I buy it again rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
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post Oct 2 2015, 11:40 AM

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I would probably choose 1080p 60 FPS compared to 4K 30 FPS smile.gif
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post Oct 2 2015, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Oct 2 2015, 12:01 PM)
truth, LivePhotos and Speed.. my wife is using 6 plus, it doesn't impress me, but nowadays the iOS is not as smooth as previous anymore. i love to buy Iphone with S edition, i skipped 3G, and get the 3Gs , skipped 5, and get the 5S version, and same like this round, skipped the 6+ and get the 6S+ smile.gif
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A lot of people buy the latest iPhone because they love Apple products smile.gif Not everyone buys and utilizes all the features. The 4K video capability does not apply to most people because a lot of us does not have a 4K LCD/monitor. According to tests done by Linus, shooting in 1080p is in fact good enough for most use cases these days.

I buy every year because I want the latest Apple gadget, haha. Whether or not it's 4K or Live Photos, I can't be bothered either. We all know the 6S is no big deal compared to the 6; speed wise it's probably more or less anyway biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Oct 2 2015, 12:43 PM)
rclxms.gif i tell my wife, i don't care, this time i must get it..! LOL
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Honestly, one of the main reason I'm getting it is because I feel gay and want a pink color phone laugh.gif
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post Oct 2 2015, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Oct 2 2015, 12:46 PM)
haha.. i really cannot accept that Rose Gold!
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I will buy it first. Not ngam then sell and buy another later biggrin.gif keep the economy going. Lol
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post Oct 2 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Oct 2 2015, 03:21 PM)
If you are not going to use the new features in the 6S phones, why do you need to upgrade?
The way you put it, the 6 is serving you just fine.
Everyone knows the S upgrades are more under the hood than the overall aesthetics of the phone.
I upgrade my phone on launch day without fail for the past 6 years or so.
There are features which we use less in the S upgrades like Siri, but the Touch ID was the most successful feature in all the S upgrades ever, in fact it brought about an industry wide need for fingerprint unlocking on mobile phones. Not to undermine the fact that Siri brought about the need of Digital Assistants on phones like never before.
As far as the 4k video is concerned, prices of 4k TVs have dropped tremendously over the years. Its becoming easier for people to afford 4k TVs now. 4k is becoming a norm if it already isn't.
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1. It's not our call or to decide for people how they use their phones for smile.gif It is for the same reason that I would not question something you have bought which you feel is really useful while I feel is completely rubbish or otherwise smile.gif That's your choice to buy and decide, it's a free country. If someone wants to buy an iPad and use it as a digital photo frame, that's up to them too.

2. I am talking based on real statistics and data. Having cheaper 4K TV's does not mean a higher 4K adoption. If you go by that assumption and if you are a marketeer, you would probably crash hard. You can easily ask any manufacturers or sellers be it TV's or PC LCD's, I can pretty much tell you that 4K screen sales are still minimal compared to other resolutions.

3. That said, if you own an electrical shop, do you think it makes sense to stock and display more 4K screens on demo compared to normal non 4K screens? If your answer is "YES" then almost everyone in the business is making wrong decisions.

4. Not all sources are 4K ready. I had a 4K LCD on my PC, a lot of the videos, movies, etc doesn't look good on the 4K screen. Font scaling is also another issue on the Windows platform.

5. I value your experience in 4K and I am one of the early adopters as well. However, I do not think it's a fair comment to generalize and think this is the trend just because we have a 4K screen smile.gif The jump from Full HD to WQHD takes a bit of time and there's no difference with this phenomena either (4K)
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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Oct 2 2015, 04:40 PM)
Sure, why not. If you can get a phone capable of capturing 4K and still record at HD, I suppose you can use an iPad as a photo frame too.

Think about it this way. You have a device capable of recording at 4K. You record to preserve moments. You playback those moments. So if you don't have a TV capable of displaying the high quality of the video recorded today, who is to say that you won't have that TV in a near future? When you do later, a little voice in your head will tell you: 'Should have recorded this in 4K'

4K content is scarce. But that doesn't mean we can't create our own if we have both the hardware to record and play it.
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I understand where you are coming from but again, that's how you perceive it should be done if it were you. There's obviously a purpose as to why people were given options on what video quality they prefer to shoot in the menu. If you buy a DSLR, does it mean you always have to shoot in RAW format and the highest quality? If your analogy is "YES", it always has to be the highest settings then I am afraid there are just as many people which thinks otherwise. To disappoint you further, I am very confident MAJORITY of people does not think like you biggrin.gif

Have a look at this video and read some of the comments to see what they think about 4K:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NFmpJNvd4k

Someday 8K would be the standard as well so maybe you can buy a 8K camera now to preserve all your moments today? It's alright to live in your own world on how you believe technology should be used but expecting others to live the world like yours would only result in disappointment.

If Tim Cook were to think like you and hard code 6S/6S+ to only record in 4K (because the device is 4K capable and we should preserve all moments in 4K irregardless), I can't imagine what would happen.
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post Oct 2 2015, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(harmeet15 @ Oct 2 2015, 05:42 PM)
I think you should buy that iPhone 6S, record in glorious 1080p and watch it on your 4K tv.
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I think you just have to do what you love and stop meddling about how others uses their gadgets smile.gif In response to your feedback, yes I will prefer to record in 1080p 60 FPS than 4K 30 FPS at the present moment.
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post Oct 5 2015, 10:46 AM

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I started using the 6S+ 64 since Friday. My impressions compared to the 6+ I had previously:

1. Battery life is a lot better. I am not sure if it's because of iOS or the chip but it obviously last much longer compared to my 6+

2. Speed is amazing. If you play games then you would notice everything loads up so much faster and graphics are crisp. Apart from that, I also notice faster 4G/Wifi on the same network so the new LTE chip in the phone did make a huge difference.

3. On paper the weight says 20g heavier. While it seems quite substantial (we're talking about 10% increase in weight), it's negligible.

4. The 3D Touch might not be very useful at this point in time because you can still easily navigate through normal methods.

5. The extra RAM makes iOS a lot smoother and you don't need to get into Safari waiting for the page to refresh. It stays as per where you left and same behavior like the iPad Air 2 which I have.

Conclusion: Overall, it's a great buy and am happy with it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yclam5729 @ Oct 5 2015, 10:54 AM)
Very good review, making me can't wait to get mine. I have every iPhone since 2G except iPhone 3G, I can tell the significant improvement on every iphones I owned. I am pretty sure this one make a bigger jump on its 2GB ram and 3D touch especially when jb it out.
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Seriously boss, the speed improvement is noticeable biggrin.gif I wasn't expecting that but all my websites load much faster in 4G. Apart from that it's super fast in everything else. The 6+ was a bit laggy/sluggish when it was launched last year but this time along, Apple made it right. The Live Photos are a bit hit and miss though; a bit cock up sometimes, haha.
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QUOTE(yclam5729 @ Oct 5 2015, 11:02 AM)
Now I start to worry if 64GB is enough for me.  biggrin.gif
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If you do a bit of house keeping sometimes then 64GB should be enough? I'm not sure how you use it for but it's obviously better to spend a bit more for 128GB if you really utilize it.

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Oct 5 2015, 11:22 AM)

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Yup, battery life is fantastic! Certainly a big jump from 6+ last year. Do you have lots of tabs in Safari? I normally have 2-3 so it doesn't refresh when I get back in.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 5 2015, 11:32 AM)
Nice Review.

Questions to your reviews

1) Could battery life be better because the 6S+ had a new battery while your 6+ had a worn out battery?

2) Both the 6+ and 6S+ supports the latest Gen 2 LTE networks. But if you say faster 4G and Wifi I wonder why?

3) Thats reasonable. 20grams is not noticeable.

4) That we need to get the hang of it before being to fully utilize it.

5) Im sure the 2GB ram makes a lot of difference. But the main issue is that Safari doesnt needs to restart every time and that makes a lot of difference to me as I really hate the refresh everytime I open safari.  thumbup.gif

Overall seems like a worthy upgrade even though the high price.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks boss, my answers:

1) I bought the 6 when it was launched last year and changed to 6+ after that. Both are new units. I am very sure that even when I started using the 6+, the battery life was no match compared to 6S+. Normally the 6+ would last me a full day but the 6S+ goes all the way until the next day biggrin.gif I guess it must be the new A9 chip being more energy efficient.

2) I guess the iOS 9 Wifi Assist helps after all? For LTE, you can certainly feel the big difference. Loading websites are almost instant while the 6+ takes a bit more time. I am on Maxis btw.

3) I certainly don't mind carrying an extra 20g for the battery life and speed improvements this phone gives me.

4) I believe when more Apps utilizes this feature, it may be more useful. At present time, I rather use the normal method to get to the menu I'd like. Nevertheless, 3D Touch for the fish screen saver to move is a cool thing. My 4 year old son enjoyed it laugh.gif

5) 1GB RAM is certainly insufficient and not to mention the A8 chip on the 6+ last year. IMHO, Apple should use the A8X chip on iPad Air 2 for the 6+ and it would be snappier. Yes, the bloody website refresh every time we move back to Safari was a turn off.

It's a great upgrade and certainly not only limited to 4K video and 3D Touch. Personally, I feel that battery life and speed improvements are just as pivotal compared to the other features.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Oct 5 2015, 12:22 PM)
1) My 6+ could easily get me through minimum 2 days usage. But then again it depends on the individual usage.

2) The 6+ with IOS 9 does come with Wifi Assist too. But I turn it off as I dont want data to be utilized when Im on Wifi. Maybe I should turn it back on and see if its much faster.  nod.gif
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1) If your usage pattern allows you to have 2 days usage on 6+ then the 6S+ would probably give you 3 days or so. There's definitely improvement in this area.

2) If it's our own home, it shouldn't be much of an issue. We should know where are the spots where Wifi is weak/strong. For example, if you know that the balcony always don't have Wifi and yet you go YouTube there while smoking then blame it on Wifi Assist for using up the data plan on our network laugh.gif Of course if the user is non technical then yes, it can be a potential risk.

QUOTE(invisiblelim @ Oct 5 2015, 12:33 PM)
Thanks for your review, i had decided to upgrade my wife's 6+ as well smile.gif
waiting for Malaysia to launch and Telco Plan..
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Go grab it boss biggrin.gif We work hard and we need to enjoy life, pamper ourselves with the gadgets we love!
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QUOTE(me076310 @ Oct 5 2015, 02:11 PM)
I'm in love with the size of the 6S but I really like the 6S+ battery life....which one is the better compromise?

should i follow the results below?
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From my experiences using both iPhone 6 and 6+ last year;

1. You don't have to compare the features because they are identically the same. The image stabilization crap, etc on the 6+ is no big deal so omit that.

2. What you need to ask yourself is; do you prefer a small or bigger screen, do you want to easily use the phone with one hand or don't mind using both hands.

3. Battery life is superb on the "Plus" version but I'm sure the 6S would easily be sufficient for a day of use. In case you are worried, just put a power bank in your car and use whenever necessary.

I started off with a 6 and figured out the screen was not quite big enough, hated the battery life. These 2 turn down is sufficient to justify the 6+ which I ended up with biggrin.gif

My 2 cents rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(xproc @ Oct 5 2015, 04:20 PM)
conclusion... we do not need wifi assist...
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I left it turned on because I never finish my data plan quota anyway. Besides, I don't YouTube and only used for Internet surfing, chatting, games, etc.

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