Physical stores maybe but their website is pretty up-to-date and available for purchase compared to other manufacturers that require a trip to another retailer.
Personally, I had good experience with Dell (old ones) and HP (current ones) while bad experience with Acer (old).
I had complains about every brand from everyone around me but so far all my machines and gadgets are fine but it is possible that I just maintain my stuffs really well.

Good to hear that. As i doing services also receive complains almost everyday about every brand.
So as long as you're not getting a lemon , and you know how to maintain it well. then it would be working fine.

What do you think about Illegear products ?

Not bad, custom gaming laptop. But in term of design... all chasis and parts from China suplier. But they are growing really well due to increasing sales lately thanks to Z5 and other models as well.
They did provide warranty so its ok.

OK, thank you

using Z400 touch no problem at all

Isn't other brand also purchase most of their parts from China supplier ? So far I just know MSI and Asus produce most of the parts on their own. Is it true ?

Yup.
for illegear , is it just a re-branded Chinese custom laptop ?

check here:
HERE


surprisingly all model are same, every piece of atom and spec are same. But the price 40% much more expensive!

it's based on clevo from taiwan (http://www.clevo.com.tw/)

It is based on Clevo, so obviously it will be the same no. hahaha
Price is much more expensive cause you need to take into account taxes, delivery fee all those stuff.
What I want to know is, IIRC, in some article I read, brand like Dell and Lenovo also purchase barebone from Clevo, or ask Clevo to produce barebone for them. Whether it is true or not.
Well Clevo quality is well known to be good in oversea tho

I have used my Lenovo Y580 for 3 years, still able to run intense application under humid situation and never got overheat... never met a problem like urs... I bought my brother a Lenovo slim laptop with A10 APU, used 1 year , never had any issue either.

The fact is my situation is reverse with urs. I used to use Acer before in few model, Aspire 4710 then Aspire 4741, guess what, both of these unit suffer same problems. 4710 suffer overheat issue after 5 months usage... even though thermal paste replace and cleaning done, same goes to 4741, hardsk failure, overheat issue, blue screen, motherboard fried even fan stop working due to heat overshoot, all these happened in 1 yr of time. Same goes to my friend using V3 with I7, overheat issue after 1 year usage making the palm rest area literally burning the hand when placing over during typing. Therefore, ACER is a problematic laptop for me haha... believe it or not

Anw just sharing my experience though... Asus or Lenovo laptop still my choice.

This post has been edited by clarence888: Jul 10 2015, 11:10 AM

i guess its depending on luck
i got a cheapo lenovo g400s that i upgraded to an i7 3630qm from an i3 3110m
temps stay below 87c with throttlestop
but my friends y500 suffers from overheating even after repaste
might be faulty heatpipe

This post has been edited by bigmac999: Jul 10 2015, 06:47 PM

checked the HP spectre display at ly thundermatch... first thing i notice is the laptop very hot even on idle mode.

if running full usage i think you can burn your lap with it.

My bro and I bought Lenovo Y580 FHD when it first laumched in Msia. These are ori Malaysia set. We got extended warranty promo 3 years. My bro y580 having high temp issue, after a year and half his laptop is dead. He did not send his laptop to warranty because his y580 casing was damaged and lenovo reject warranty claim. My y580 just died this year Mar. Apparently the warranty was expired last year Aug. While using lenovo laptop I pursuaded two of my fren to buy y480. One bought AP and another ori Malaysia. The ori y480 was sent twice for warranty, 1st prob speaker, 2nd motherboard dead. So this is my experience with lenovo laptops. Judge urself.

Lenovo Thinkpad has the best quality, of course it's kinda expensive.

However their consumer multimedia graded laptop using cheap component due to cheaper price, so u want THEIR BEST QUALITY, GO BUY THEIR TOP RATED LAPTOP.

98% of the laptops are manufactured in China, including ALIENWARE and Apple MBP FYI.

May I know which model are you comparing to to the page you listed? Do note the Z5 comes with IPS display, GTX960M 4GB GDDR5 by default.

Other costs such as 6% GST import and international shipping also make our costs higher rather than china local transport.

Where they manufacture doesn't matter. Quality control are the most important after all. ILLEGEAR are company which cooperate, assemble parts from many supplier and manufacturer. Am i right? PCB designs which can fits all the upgrades such as wide variety of processors and graphics cards.
The company which doesn't manufacture their own custom parts where they cannot ensure how the quality controlled by the original manufacturer. Chassis designs, and elements layout are all widely used by many other company as well overseas. But indeed the company provide good custom job and services include warranty.

Keep it up, someday may have custom chassis design available then i will come for investment

My Y480 ideapad only met wifi-adapter failure before and I have been using it for 3 years. A good friend of mine is using Y580 for almost 3 years too. Never hear him complains anything about the laptop. We do gaming everyday for about 3-4 hours daily. Judge yourself.

I know this may be unrelated as I'm using a Toshiba laptop, but I wud like receive some feedback.

My laptop- Satellite L-50 A (i 54200 M), 15.6" screen, bought 2014, heats up quickly, especially d right side of keyboard. This causes discomfort when I use it for > 1.5 hrs, like typing.

1) Is this normal wif other laptops, e.g. Lenovo?
2) What causes laptops to heat up so much in short period of time, like d Lenovo cases mentioned earlier by fellow forumers?
3) CPU temperature is 46 degrees Celsius after > 1.5 hrs of use. Is it normal?


Thx in advanced 4 any feedback.

CPU temperature at 46 degree celsius is completely fine, considering the hot weather in Malaysia. As long as your laptop does not shut down, then it should be okay. My Lenovo laptop heats up within 5 minutes of usage, and the whole laptop is very hot hahaha. It happens probably because the CPU itself is located at the middle of the whole system, when it generates heat, the heat flow to ambient conducted through the heat sink from the CPU, this heat is usually trapped underneath your laptop if your laptop has no external cooler.

Well, if it causes discomfort, just get an external keyboard. Problem arises once your laptop starts to shut down unexpectedly.