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post Apr 18 2018, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 18 2018, 08:40 AM)
Yes, cyst.
Please. Just explain the features and functionality of the filter without the sales tone to comply with the forum's rules.
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wah , buy cartridge refill price vs buy cartridge + head adapter why $$ diff so much? sweat.gif
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post Apr 18 2018, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 19 2017, 09:27 PM)
This is a new counter top design, can't use it for undersink installation. Sharing the same 3M NSF certified C Complete cartridge as in AP Easy Complete.
If you want cheaper option and undersink installation, go for the RM350 3M CTM-01. After one year usage, replace the cartridge with C Complete. You will get same water quality as in CTM-02.
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very useful info......
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post Apr 18 2018, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 18 2018, 03:16 PM)
wah , buy cartridge refill price vs buy cartridge + head adapter why $$ diff so much? sweat.gif
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Hi Bro, which 3M filter suitable for apartment to install at PBA room?

Thank you.
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post Apr 18 2018, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(leongsem @ Apr 18 2018, 04:36 PM)
Hi Bro, which 3M filter suitable for apartment to install at PBA room?

Thank you.
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have to ask this sifu since he familar with most of the popular brands in malaysia

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post Apr 20 2018, 11:33 AM

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Is it okay if my drinking water tap is connected to the water tank ? Planning to add POE filter and another POU filter
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post Apr 20 2018, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 11 2018, 03:51 PM)
Spitzer should be about 200 EC, give or take, so roughly 300-400ppm depending on meter.

2ppm is kinda very low even for RO. Suspecting that your meter does not read high values, stuck at 22?
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I just measured Spritzer mineral water using my cheapo TDS & EC meter.
204EC and 102ppm

QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 18 2018, 03:16 PM)
wah , buy cartridge refill price vs buy cartridge + head adapter why $$ diff so much? sweat.gif
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Yalar, if you minus the replacement cartridge cost from the price of the complete set, you will find out the price of the filter head alone is so cut throat overpriced.

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post Apr 20 2018, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 20 2018, 06:26 PM)

Yalar, if you minus the replacement cartridge cost from the price of the complete set, you will find out the price of the filter head alone is so cut throat  overpriced.
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lets say cartridge is 300-400,
but full set is 1k. (full set just have extra plastic head and tube parts)

LOL laugh.gif

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post Apr 20 2018, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 20 2018, 06:49 PM)
lets say cartridge is 300-400,
but full set is 1k. (full set just have extra plastic head and tube parts)

LOL  laugh.gif
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You bought already ? Give a write up on how one can save RM600-RM700 by following your method.
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post Apr 20 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 20 2018, 07:07 PM)
You bought already ? Give a write up on how one can save RM600-RM700 by following your method.
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survey the replacement cartridge price only and compare with the full set price. difference so much.

but my adapter head already arrive ! haha rclxms.gif
maybe cartridge buy from UK even cheaper. lol.

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post Apr 20 2018, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 20 2018, 06:26 PM)
I just measured Spritzer mineral water using my cheapo TDS & EC meter.
204EC and 102ppm
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So your EC is very accurate.

Do you have 2 filters, one RO and one single stage? With soft water like that, RO membrane can last forever. Do you have a lot of iron in water? Take clean glass container, like a jar, fill it up with water and let sit for 24-4i hours. Is bottom brown?if no iron and low PPM, RO will last forever...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 20 2018, 07:11 PM)
survey the replacement cartridge price only and compare with the full set price. difference so much.

but my adapter head already arrive ! haha rclxms.gif
maybe cartridge buy from UK even cheaper. lol.
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This is why I'm bringing standard housings from Taiwan. Clear profiteering from adapter head by these companies. This is the trick, make custom housings/heads and screw everyone. Most filters are simple sediment or carbon, yet cost a fortune.
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post Apr 20 2018, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 20 2018, 08:19 PM)
This is why I'm bringing standard housings from Taiwan. Clear profiteering from adapter head by these companies. This is the trick, make custom housings/heads and screw everyone. Most filters are simple sediment or carbon, yet cost a fortune.
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i think else where like us and uk the prices have settled down. i mean just see their RO (with expansion tank) or 6 filter systems mostly below 200usd.
maybe this region still can price gouge until to the point where water filter sell for 3-5k, thats crazy. rclxub.gif
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post Apr 20 2018, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 20 2018, 08:23 PM)
i think else where like us and uk the prices have settled down. i mean just see their RO (with expansion tank) or 6 filter systems mostly below 200usd.
maybe this region still can price gouge  until to the point where water filter sell for 3-5k, thats crazy.  rclxub.gif
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Well, ok, RO for $200 is pushing it as well. I mean can be done, but low quality components. RO at 300 USD from high quality components is more realistic.


I find here we lack middle players. We have 3-5K systems and then have crappy systems that leak and don't filter anything for 300-500RM. But also mentality, always want brand. In USA almost no one will consider 3M if it costs 400USD and Pentek is 200USD (talking PoE now), this is why all these brands are priced ok there.

I will present my PoU ASAP. Have it already, but had no time to write it up.

Next step is PoE.
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post Apr 20 2018, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 20 2018, 09:17 PM)
Well, ok, RO for $200 is pushing it as well. I mean can be done, but low quality components. RO at 300 USD from high quality components is more realistic.
I find here we lack middle players. We have 3-5K systems and then have crappy systems that leak and don't filter anything for 300-500RM. But also mentality, always want brand. In USA almost no one will consider 3M if it costs 400USD and Pentek is 200USD (talking PoE now), this is why all these brands are priced ok there.

I will present my PoU ASAP. Have it already, but had no time to write it up.

Next step is PoE.
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1 simple question, your aquaphor replacement cartridges is 350 for 3 units right?
why dont just make a plastic housing to house all 3 cartridge?
then total solution, of around rm500 can already. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 20 2018, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 20 2018, 09:21 PM)
1 simple question, your aquaphor replacement cartridges is 350 for 3 units right?
why dont just make a plastic housing to house all 3 cartridge?
then total solution, of around rm500 can already.  biggrin.gif
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I wish I could. But this is why the make their own cartridges and head, hard to copy. I mean can copy, but then need to sell like 5000 systems, because factory cannot make just 10 heads. There is also an issue of liability, these heads are damn strong and actually if they explode they may make a lot of damage, you can go to court against Aquaphor and win.

I have an idea that Pentek may use same head, but gotta check.


Actually I find Aquaphor cartridges rather cheap for what they are, UF, 3 carbon blocks, easy change. 3M cartridge is a stupid sediment for 600RM, now that's overkill.


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post Apr 21 2018, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 20 2018, 08:14 PM)
So your EC is very accurate.

Do you have 2 filters, one RO and one single stage? With soft water like that, RO membrane can last forever. Do you have a lot of iron in water? Take clean glass container, like a jar, fill it up with water and let sit for 24-4i hours. Is bottom brown?if no iron and low PPM, RO will last forever...
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RO is at another house, forgot the tap water EC/TDS reading already. Will retest again.
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post Apr 21 2018, 08:51 AM

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Hi I wonder if cuckoo and coway really good because it really popular among my friends. Because they have after sales services and some models offer cold and hot function. But what concern me more is how safe to drink their water. I already owned espring and looking for my in-laws.
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post Apr 21 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 20 2018, 09:54 PM)
There is also an issue of liability, these heads are damn strong and actually if they explode they may make a lot of damage, you can go to court against Aquaphor and win.
wont explode wan la. lol. you think your incoming water pressure so great like hydraulic lines meh. your internal pipes will leak first biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 21 2018, 09:27 AM)
wont explode wan la. lol. you think your incoming water pressure so great like hydraulic lines meh. your internal pipes will leak first  biggrin.gif
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Unfortunately they do explode sometimes. Now, I am not saying it is always huge explosion with pieces flying around (though it may happen too). But those transparent housings for example, they are prone to cracking and flooding whole apartment and neighbors. Actually many manufacturers have insurance against housing/component explosion/cracking. This is why I never recommend transparent housings. Always get white or blue.
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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 21 2018, 11:23 AM)
Unfortunately they do explode sometimes. Now, I am not saying it is always huge explosion with pieces flying around (though it may happen too). But those transparent housings for example, they are prone to cracking and flooding whole apartment and neighbors. Actually many manufacturers have insurance against housing/component explosion/cracking. This is why I never recommend transparent housings. Always get white or blue.
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Likely caused by water hammer effect.
Quarter turn tap connect to rigid pipes are the usual cause.

 

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