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hestati
post Apr 10 2018, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(spawney @ Apr 10 2018, 06:40 PM)
Thanks for the prompt reply.

You are right, it fact it went very quickly from 1 month to 2 weeks after a few scrubs!

My first choice is the POE only because:
1) I will need to install pre-filter for 2 Cosway (kitchen and wash basin outside toilet)
2) Water quality at laundry and shower area will also improve, additional benefit
3) Only need to change filter at POE when clog, and scrub the 2 Cosway once a month, hopefully

I dun think the Cosway housing is NSF certified, but if NSF certified pre-filter is still affordable I do not mind.
I'm still boiling the water after Cosway, do you think its necessary?

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Honestly, it depends. Ceramic filters absorb everything "inside", it's like glorified melt blown filter. Problem with ceramic is that even if it stops all bacteria inside (which I really doubt, but ok, let's suppose) then they start growing inside, which can lead to secondary contamination, premature clogging, etc. So not that boiling is 100% required, but I don't believe it's 100% protection from bacteria.

Someone can argue that there is Doulton and it's NSF certified, but it's NSF 42 without any bacteria claims and I don't know any ceramic filter certified in California, where various claims are harder to make.


As for POE, if you can do it, then sure. 10" by 4.5" housing with pleated polyester (not yet available) or melt blown (available). Having 2 pre-filters is probably much easier to install and somewhat cheaper, but yes, no benefits of cleaner water in shower/laundry.

Drop me a PM when you decide between POE vs. pre-filter, maybe I can suggest something.
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post Apr 10 2018, 10:40 PM

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Hi,
Where can I find Brita Filter Pitcher?
I tried looking at Ace HArdware in Cyberjaya but could not find it. Any help is very much appreciated. Thanks
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post Apr 11 2018, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 9 2018, 04:20 PM)
1. Thanks.
2. Perhaps I should elaborate more. White colour limescale forming over a long period of time say 3 months especially in areas where you don't get to wipe it dry.
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Hmmm, just to test, can you buy Spitzer mineral bottled water and measure ppm? I never see limescale anywhere with my levels of ppm, at your levels you should not have it either. Something is not right.
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post Apr 11 2018, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 11 2018, 02:33 PM)
Hmmm, just to test, can you buy Spitzer mineral bottled water and measure ppm? I never see limescale anywhere with my levels of ppm, at your levels you should not have it either. Something is not right.
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Will do that. Does Spitzer disclose thier ppm ?
But this TDS meter gives a reasonable 2ppm reading for RO water. Isn't it rule out TDS meter's fault ?

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post Apr 11 2018, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 11 2018, 02:50 PM)
Will do that. Does Spitzer disclose thier ppm ?
But this TDS meter gives a reasonable 2ppm reading for RO water. Isn't it rule out TDS meter's fault ?
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Spitzer should be about 200 EC, give or take, so roughly 300-400ppm depending on meter.

2ppm is kinda very low even for RO. Suspecting that your meter does not read high values, stuck at 22?
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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 11 2018, 03:51 PM)
Spitzer should be about 200 EC, give or take, so roughly 300-400ppm depending on meter.

2ppm is kinda very low even for RO. Suspecting that your meter does not read high values, stuck at 22?
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No, it can give >1000 reading for my hydroponic nutrient.
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post Apr 11 2018, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 11 2018, 04:25 PM)
No, it can give >1000 reading for my hydroponic nutrient.
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Then it is really strange. Let's ask the others...

Anyone experienced limestone deposits in their kettle or anywhere else? If yes, then how quickly it happens?
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post Apr 11 2018, 06:58 PM

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Here to report that my filter setup had issues leaking at the joints.
Started with the sides intake and outtake. Then the inner joint nipples between filters also was leaking.

This was done over multiple teflon tapes, pipe dope, and even turning the joints until it reaches the end.

Will return the whole filter setup and try to get one with brass threading. The current threads that are PVC i feel are too soft and doesnt handle the water pressure inside.

I know because once I accidentally remove one of the pipes tubing without draining the water, and the whole thing push out alot of force.


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QUOTE(ShenWoo @ Apr 11 2018, 06:58 PM)
Here to report that my filter setup had issues leaking at the joints.
Started with the sides intake and outtake. Then the inner joint nipples between filters also was leaking.

This was done over multiple teflon tapes, pipe dope, and even turning the joints until it reaches the end.

Will return the whole filter setup and try to get one with brass threading. The current threads that are PVC i feel are too soft and doesnt handle the water pressure inside.

I know because once I accidentally remove one of the pipes tubing without draining the water, and the whole thing push out alot of force.
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This is for which filter?
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post Apr 11 2018, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(ShenWoo @ Apr 11 2018, 06:58 PM)
Here to report that my filter setup had issues leaking at the joints.
Started with the sides intake and outtake. Then the inner joint nipples between filters also was leaking.

This was done over multiple teflon tapes, pipe dope, and even turning the joints until it reaches the end.

Will return the whole filter setup and try to get one with brass threading. The current threads that are PVC i feel are too soft and doesnt handle the water pressure inside.

I know because once I accidentally remove one of the pipes tubing without draining the water, and the whole thing push out alot of force.
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post Apr 12 2018, 07:10 PM

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My 3 stage 10 inch filter from a local water filter shop, comes with brackets and connections between the filter done. All I need to do was connect the inlet and outlet with 3/4 Inch threaded pipe. First leaks was inlet and outlet. Then came the inner connection.
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QUOTE(ShenWoo @ Apr 12 2018, 07:10 PM)
My 3 stage 10 inch filter from a local water filter shop, comes with brackets and connections between the filter done. All I need to do was connect the inlet and outlet with 3/4 Inch threaded pipe. First leaks was inlet and outlet. Then came the inner connection.
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Yes, this is the issue with these systems. Fittings are usually cheap and prone to leaking. You can change nipples between filters, unless the housing threads are damaged. Gotta see where it is leaking first, are you sure it's fitting between stages or is it housing itself?
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post Apr 13 2018, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 10 2018, 08:22 PM)
Honestly, it depends. Ceramic filters absorb everything "inside", it's like glorified melt blown filter. Problem with ceramic is that even if it stops all bacteria inside (which I really doubt, but ok, let's suppose) then they start growing inside, which can lead to secondary contamination, premature clogging, etc. So not that boiling is 100% required, but I don't believe it's 100% protection from bacteria.

Someone can argue that there is Doulton and it's NSF certified, but it's NSF 42 without any bacteria claims and I don't know any ceramic filter certified in California, where various claims are harder to make.
As for POE, if you can do it, then sure. 10" by 4.5" housing with pleated polyester (not yet available) or melt blown (available). Having 2 pre-filters is probably much easier to install and somewhat cheaper, but yes, no benefits of cleaner water in shower/laundry.

Drop me a PM when you decide between POE vs. pre-filter, maybe I can suggest something.
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Hi Hestati,

PM send.
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post Apr 13 2018, 11:16 PM

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Between stages.
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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 11 2018, 05:28 PM)
Then it is really strange. Let's ask the others...

Anyone experienced limestone deposits in their kettle or anywhere else? If yes, then how quickly it happens?
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You are right, something has gone wrong. My reading was wrong.
So I test again.

Tap water before filter = 45ppm
Filtered water by Culligan EZ-4 = 44ppm

Below picture is the limescale deposit on my water tumbler after 1week usage.

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post Apr 15 2018, 03:42 PM

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Hello guys,

i have this undersink, first filter is 1 micron, second is 5 micron CTO. at the faucet there connected to 3M water purifier.

i just installed this and ran the water for 20 seconds only, the first filter so fast became dirty, is that normal or my area water condition is extremely bad?

why there is bubble inside ? water pressure not enough? im pretty sure no leaking.

purpose to install this i want cleaner water even for dish washing, and to pro long the life of 3M water purifier. no outdoor filter, condo cannot install also not going to hack wall.

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Apr 15 2018, 03:42 PM)
Hello guys,

i have this undersink, first filter is 1 micron, second is 5 micron CTO. at the faucet there connected to 3M water purifier.

i just installed this and ran the water for 20 seconds only, the first filter so fast became dirty, is that normal or my area water condition is extremely bad?

why there is bubble inside ? water pressure not enough? im pretty sure no leaking.

purpose to install this i want cleaner water even for dish washing, and to pro long the life of 3M water purifier. no outdoor filter, condo cannot install also not going to hack wall.

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i tot 5 micron should be 1st filter then 1 micron second filter? no?
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post Apr 15 2018, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Apr 15 2018, 05:01 PM)
i tot 5 micron should be 1st filter then 1 micron second filter? no?
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Yea, because CTO more expensive, I put it for chlorine only, so I put 1 micron as first one cheaper cost to replace.
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post Apr 16 2018, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(Pain4UrsinZ @ Apr 15 2018, 06:25 PM)
Yea, because CTO more expensive, I put it for chlorine only, so I put 1 micron as first one cheaper cost to replace.
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Can you share where did you buy the filters? Are the threads plastic or metal?
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QUOTE(ShenWoo @ Apr 16 2018, 06:38 PM)
Can you share where did you buy the filters? Are the threads plastic or metal?
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Plastic under magico made in Taiwan, I bought it from Aeon kepong

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