I don't know exactly how this new version work. I do know (told my Amway technician) the counter will jump faster if input water condition are bad.

This post has been edited by weikee: Nov 16 2017, 03:28 PM

I have been following this thread and I find it amusing that some people are very obsessed with finding that perfect water filter for almost 100% clean water and some even for added alkaline and RO and other so called technology. And there are also arguments over the effectiveness of these things.

Bear in mind that we only need to drink clean water in adequate amounts to stay healthy. And by saying clean I do not mean totally free of contaminants. It will be good if the water contains small amounts of biological contaminants (eg.bacteria) for our bodies to build up the immune system. If the water that we consume is too clean, our bodies will not have a chance to be exposed to germs to build up the immunity.

And for those filters that use infra-red as a selling point, there is a cheaper way to kill germs: just boil the water.

I do have a POE and Aquaphor filter but I am not too concerned about them filtering out 100% of the contaminants. As long as they filter out most of the dirt, I am fine with it.

I am posting this because I find some people are too fussy about a water filter.
My advise is, just get one that does the basic function of filtering the water. After all, all our bodies require is natural clean water without added alkali, oxygen, and what not.

This is just my 2 cents. You are free to disagree but I hope it can help those who are spending a lot of time looking for that perfect filter.

Warning as in?
This warning?


Or just beep once when open tap?

If you doubt the accuracy, you can always bring it to Amway shop for usage check, you can even check how many times the UV light on.


Sometimes we can't really estimate the daily usage, it's all average calculation.

Do you have any source/study to support your believe?
Exposing to germs don't build up immunity, our intestine are all time full of germs/bacteria.

Nothing is 100% fail proof, even kitchen knife handle can break, a filter housing can break or clogged.
Of course there's case like your brother's eSpring spoilt but one breakdown doesn't means others can fail sooner or later, just like NOTE 7 case, not all NOTE 7 has explosion issue.
There's still people using WTS 2 which working well after like 10+ years.
If i didn't remember wrongly, you bought the entire monitoring module is about RM700 range, expensive or not, depends.

This post has been edited by oyching88: Nov 16 2017, 06:20 PM

Relax bro, don't be so defensive. I was merely pointing out the pro and con of a water filter with electronic board and smart sensor. Budget conscious buyers should take note of this. Amway spare parts support is excellent but if after warranty period, the repair cost is prohibitory expensive.

As for the bold part, I don't know what you are talking about. Wrong person kot?

I know, i got your point haha, just pointing out everything also can rosak la...
The replacement of the entire monitoring module (electronic part) is within RM700 (you can get discount actually).
If you ask me expensive or not, i think acceptable la, you get entire new stuff with warranty also. It's also not going to be changed again and again if taken care.

Ya lar, very agree with you 3k-4k filter also can rosak.
RM700 to you is nothing, but to some, they think it's an expensive lesson learned

That's why i say it depends on that person.
Now repair LED TV also cost RM800+ for panel

Nope, so far none that i know of having issue with the monitoring module.
There was one batch of replacement cartridges that often have read error problem after some times previously. But it was replaced with a new cartridge by Amway since it's a defect, cost $0.
All replacement cartridge comes with lifetime warranty.

Yeah, same like everything you wanna buy, think twice or thirce before buying. If it suite you and the seller is good, then buy, else go for others.

This post has been edited by oyching88: Nov 17 2017, 12:27 AM

Agree of that, sometime if just think buy online is cheaper with someone oversea or else like the example oyching88 gave, you does not know the product condition is whether reseal with new package or over warranty, the risk need to take.

So what ever buy what or buy from who also need to think twice.

This post has been edited by Ch33r: Nov 17 2017, 01:06 AM

anyone can intro water filter for kitchen sink, rm500 to rm2000 range

anyone using 3M™ Countertop Drinking Water System CTM-01 or other similar ones? any feedback?

looking for an affordable drinking water filter, preferably below rm1k and replacement cartridge that doesn't cost a bomb.

Source/study to support my believes?
Dude, do you know the concept of immunization? It is to introduce weakened pathogens into our bodies so that they have the chance to build up the immunity against them. Our immune system only builds up the antibodies when they come into contact with a particular pathogen.
The bacteria in our guts that you are talking about are called probiotics. They are good bacteria that aids digestion and immunity. Not disease bearing bacteria.

But anyway, if you want proof to my believes, you can always google "Consequences of being too clean'.
Below are some to help get you started:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151118-c...ou-be-too-clean
https://www.medpagetoday.com/publichealthpo...talhealth/23634

I've read your rants about 3M so many times in this thread. I would say your 3M clogged before it's recommended capacity reached has got nothing to do with the 3M filter and NSF certification. In your previous posts, you told the forum that your old condo water is very dirty and yellowish and there is no space to install a PoE filter. therefore the actual culprits are dirty water and no sediment pre-filter. Your aquaphor has a pre-filter that's why you don't have clogging issue now. You should add on a cheap standard 10" pre-filter right next to your 3M easy complete and I'm very sure you can use the Easy Complete up to 1 year. Btw, since you don't like easy complete so much, do you still keeping the 3M Easy Complete filter head ? Sell to me if it is trash to you. I can use it on retired cartridge from drinking purposes for washing purposes at the 2nd sink.

If you see good deal for water filter that doesn't need electricity be it 3M or Aquaphor or Culligan, why not? They don't have any electronic board or sensor which are prone to failure. Similarly, I have no hesitation to offer to buy your used 3M easy complete filter head because the chances of failure for that solid filter head is very slim.

Try read a few pages back, there were few online deals shared by forumers that saves as much as 50% compare to the local pricing.

CTM-01 is tested in accordance with NSF standard but no certification. About RM300 in local online shopping portals. RC is RM150, can be cheaper if use discount code. Good option under affordability category.
Here the tips for you the save even more:
Exsakai really hate his 3M easy complete, now he has a spare filter head since he already switched over to aquaphor. Buy the filter head from exsakai cheap cheap ( I'm sure he will sell cheap cheap like RM20 because he really dislike it so much) Then buy the RC from Lazada RM150 and voila !!

ctm-01 only 300 ah? where ah?

if want higher level filtering, can use their more expensive filters option mah? use back the ctm-01 head.
they even have cyst filter etc.

My replacement is RM500+, usually around 14-16 months before I replace. It work out to be RM 70 +- per month (for both indoor and outdoor unit) which i am ok.

RM349 before discount voucher. After apply discount voucher you should get around RM300 odd.
https://www.lazada.com.my/3m-countertop-dri...3d428ZROZU&ff=1

Yes, the same filter head can also be used for NSF standards certified cartridges such as C-Complete, F003 (buy from China) and others cartridges that are compatible to AP2 filter head.
For C-Cyst, you need AP3 filter head. Can buy the head only from Taobao/Tmall.

Similar to Culligan IC-EZ-1 basic sold in local Ace Hardware @RM122, the filter head is compatible with EZ-4 cartridge from Amazon @ USD35.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Nov 17 2017, 12:33 PM

thx for the tip, anyways
i found got ori AP2 head for GBP11.
worth or not? earlier posts, ppl saying why use china no brand cheap copy head etc. better use back ori.. bla bla..

off topic how much is the aquaphor malaysia price for dwm-101?

This post has been edited by ar188: Nov 17 2017, 01:05 PM