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zero721
post Dec 5 2015, 01:41 PM

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Heard from people suggesting me not to get membrane filter for outdoor water filter, due to it will cause water pressure to become small. Is that true?

I'm finding outdoor and indoor water filter. Any recommendation?
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post Dec 9 2015, 11:17 PM

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Hi, go for Panasonic Water Purifier. We are using it so far no problem.
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post Dec 9 2015, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(zero721 @ Dec 5 2015, 01:41 PM)
Heard from people suggesting me not to get membrane filter for outdoor water filter, due to it will cause water pressure to become small. Is that true?

I'm finding outdoor and indoor water filter. Any recommendation?
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Depend, usually land house no need to worry.
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post Dec 9 2015, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(zero721 @ Dec 5 2015, 01:41 PM)
Heard from people suggesting me not to get membrane filter for outdoor water filter, due to it will cause water pressure to become small. Is that true?

I'm finding outdoor and indoor water filter. Any recommendation?
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Depend, usually land house no need to worry. But if you really worry, can go for those Sand media bulky type... If you are apartment then can't, need to look for those compact type like 3M AP902..

Got many choice.. actually, you flip few pages got people recommend one... eSpring, 3M, Aquaphor, Culligan, Aquasana, more and more.. Just make sure look for those certified with NSF one..
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post Dec 10 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Dec 9 2015, 11:31 PM)
Depend, usually land house no need to worry. But if you really worry, can go for those Sand media bulky type... If you are apartment then can't, need to look for those compact type like 3M AP902..

Got many choice.. actually, you flip few pages got people recommend one... eSpring, 3M, Aquaphor, Culligan, Aquasana, more and more.. Just make sure look for those certified with NSF one..
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I'm finding outdoor. Might go for Mesh outdoor water filter. It is membrane type. Any recommendation?
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post Dec 10 2015, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(zero721 @ Dec 10 2015, 01:51 PM)
I'm finding outdoor. Might go for Mesh outdoor water filter. It is membrane type. Any recommendation?
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You mean Nesh brand instead of Mesh? hmm.gif

I assume that you know the Pros and Cons of using Membrane POE Water Filter?
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post Dec 11 2015, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Dec 10 2015, 03:04 PM)
You mean Nesh brand instead of Mesh? hmm.gif

I assume that you know the Pros and Cons of using Membrane POE Water Filter?
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I know the pros is it filter more compared to sand type. But cons, so far only heard that it might cause the water pressure become slower. What else pros and cons? Can tell?
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post Dec 12 2015, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(zero721 @ Dec 11 2015, 12:27 AM)
I know the pros is it filter more compared to sand type. But cons, so far only heard that it might cause the water pressure become slower. What else pros and cons? Can tell?
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From what i know the cons of membrane filter,
1) Reduce water pressure
2) Gets clogged very fast as it is unnecessary too CLEAN 0.01 micron. An Amway Espring drinking filter is only 0.2 miron, Aquaphor Eco is 0.1 micron, why outdoor filter 0.01 micron?
3) As it is too clean, will collect more dirt and hence u need to backwash very often, usually they will ask u to install an automatic flushing timer to flush everyday.
4) Membrane maintenance cost is higher and from what i was told can only tahan 2 years (RM 700+) while most seller say 3 - 5 years.
5) Membrane can only tahan averagely 3 bar of pressure, most catalogs will write 6 to 8 bar but if u read or ask them in details, the casing can withstand 6 to 8 bar pressure but not the membrane.
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post Dec 19 2015, 07:30 PM

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For landed double storey, any good recommendations for both indoor or outdoor water purifier, tight budget, below RM1k each.

Panansonic PJ-37MRF Water Purifier This seems okay and cheap, and can filter out 99.99% (not sure if this can remove those heavy metal as well). Your kind advise is very much appreciated.

How about outdoor?


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post Dec 20 2015, 01:51 AM

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I plan to get a water filter for my house.

Wanted 1 unit for my kitchen tap, that would suffice.

There is no need to put at the main pipe [the one that comes straight from the meter pipe], as :

[1] I do not intend to filter all water
- a bit redundant, as it'll be stored in the tank for some time.
- it clogs up so fast, as water in my area is not for human use

[2] Scared of theft
- as it is installed outside of the house

[3] Cost-wise, it is expensive to purchase / maintain


Any suggestions on model to procure?

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post Dec 20 2015, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 20 2015, 01:51 AM)
I plan to get a water filter for my house.

Wanted 1 unit for my kitchen tap, that would suffice.

There is no need to put at the main pipe [the one that comes straight from the meter pipe], as :

[1] I do not intend to filter all water
- a bit redundant, as it'll be stored in the tank for some time.
- it clogs up so fast, as water in my area is not for human use

[2] Scared of theft
- as it is installed outside of the house

[3] Cost-wise, it is expensive to purchase / maintain
Any suggestions on model to procure?
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Depend your budget.
QUOTE(NightFelix @ Dec 9 2015, 11:31 PM)
Got many choice.. actually, you flip few pages got people recommend one... eSpring, 3M, Aquaphor, Culligan, Aquasana, more and more.. Just make sure look for those certified with NSF one..
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post Dec 20 2015, 03:25 PM

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Just wondering, is this any good?

http://www.lazada.com.my/royal-doulton-sup...er-1599787.html

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For 1, it is dirt cheap, and it is NSF-certified :

http://info.nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp
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Any thoughts on this?
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post Dec 23 2015, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 20 2015, 03:25 PM)
Just wondering, is this any good?

http://www.lazada.com.my/royal-doulton-sup...er-1599787.html

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For 1, it is dirt cheap, and it is NSF-certified :

http://info.nsf.org/Certified/dwtu/listings.asp
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Any thoughts on this?
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Doulton is quite a famous brand for ceramic filters. Ceramic filters are cheap and good but two main disadvantage that i believe most customers do not buy them if they have a little extra budget

1) It requires regular cleaning as the surface area to trap dirty is mainly the exterior ceramic. (once a week, if you use more water and incoming water is dirty may b 3-4 days once)

2) When you clean the filter, the ceramic gets thinner, pore size getting bigger and hence filtration will become poorer. Cleaning it could also cause hairline cracks which are not visible to us and harmful contaminants will eventually sip through. You can just google for info DISADVANTAGE of ceramic filters and you will be able to read more about it.


Usually people just buy ceramic filters as a PREFILTER such as NESH and Diamond also use it as prefilter not as a main filter. However, for Aquaphor Eco it comes with a 5 micron carbon block prefilter, chances for it getting clog before 1 year is quite slim. Sold many and never customer complain about clogging issue. With the 5 micron carbon block prefilter, the surface area to trap dirt is much bigger compared to a ceramic filter, hence no need to clean it.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 15 2016, 08:24 PM
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post Dec 23 2015, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Dec 19 2015, 07:30 PM)
For landed double storey, any good recommendations for both indoor or outdoor water purifier, tight budget, below RM1k each.

Panansonic PJ-37MRF Water Purifier This seems okay and cheap, and can filter out 99.99% (not sure if this can remove those heavy metal as well). Your kind advise is very much appreciated.

How about outdoor?
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Not much spec online but it is written with Granular Carbon and Hollow Fibre only. From my experience, the size is small and it has to fit several media inside, it could get clog fast (change cartridge 4 months - 5 months) and it is using Granular Carbon not even carbon block, with such little amount of carbon will it be really sufficient to remove all the heavy metal?


Sometimes the info on the product catalog is not sufficient and cannot trust 100%, need to do a little reading online or ask friend who are using filters for feedback.

I could sell an Aquaphor Single Cartridge System with 0.1 micron hollow fibre with CARBON fibre block (much better compared to granular carbon) less than RM 800 but i dont recommend to do so as it could get clogged fast unless u have other prefilters. Best to get a good filter for you and your family.

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post Dec 23 2015, 11:16 AM

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Going move to new house, which outdoor filter better? Pls recommend...... TQ notworthy.gif
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post Dec 27 2015, 11:37 AM

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does anybody know whr to get the 3m product and able to help install at my home around klang valley?
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post Dec 27 2015, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Dec 23 2015, 07:53 AM)
Not much spec online but it is written with Granular Carbon and Hollow Fibre only.  From my experience, the size is small and it has to fit several media inside, it could get clog fast (change cartridge 4 months - 5 months) and it is using Granular Carbon not even carbon block, with such little amount of carbon will it be really sufficient to remove all the heavy metal?

Example, 3M first came out with a single carbon block AP Easy Complete but later invested DWS1000 which has two cartridges of carbon block same quality as AP Easy complete. So, why get more carbon block ? If check NSF listing, DWS1000 can filter more contaminants compared to Easy Complete even they are using the same carbon block quality jus double the amount.

Sometimes the info on the product catalog is not sufficient and cannot trust 100%, need to do a little reading online or ask friend who are using filters for feedback.

I could sell an Aquaphor Single Cartridge System with 0.1 micron hollow fibre with CARBON fibre block (much better compared to granular carbon) less than RM 800 but i dont recommend to do so as it could get clogged fast unless u have other prefilters. Best to get a good filter for you and your family.
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i replaced the panasonic you are asking about (which is good and sufficient IF you have prefilters: my case: one sediment filter + two additional carbon block filters). its just annoying cause of the wiggly connections.

bought the Aquaphor Single Cartridge System with 0.1 micron hollow fibre with CARBON fibre block from zheilwane. result: water is a noticably better and absolutely no issues with the filtration performance. if you have the additional money over the panasonic you'll get better results from the aquphor filter.
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:35 PM

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Hi guys,


I've been using the 3M AP902 water filter for about a year already without any issue.

However I heard some said the cartridge need to be changed once every year, some say once every 2 year. How do I check/know when it is ready to be changed?
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post Dec 29 2015, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(cuber @ Dec 28 2015, 09:35 PM)
Hi guys,
I've been using the 3M AP902 water filter for about a year already without any issue.

However I heard some said the cartridge need to be changed once every year, some say once every 2 year. How do I check/know when it is ready to be changed?
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AP902 is an outdoor filter, that is why u can use it more than 1 year if your water quality not to bad or usage is low. However, for indoor drinking filters regardless the brands, best to replace once a year
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Dec 27 2015, 12:15 PM)
i replaced the panasonic you are asking about (which is good and sufficient IF you have prefilters: my case: one sediment filter + two additional carbon block filters). its just annoying cause of the wiggly connections.

bought the Aquaphor Single Cartridge System with 0.1 micron hollow fibre with CARBON fibre block from zheilwane. result: water is a noticably better and absolutely no issues with the filtration performance. if you have the additional money over the panasonic you'll get better results from the aquphor filter.
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The panasonic so worse?

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