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qiuweng
post May 2 2017, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 2 2017, 08:16 AM)
alkaline water good for health???

espring is product normal water, right??? mean not RO or alkaline!
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What we want from a good water filter is
1) able to remove contaminants that are harmful to our body
2) kills bacteria and viruses

Alkaline water filter do none of the above, expect for making the water to become alkaline.

The first 190 litre of espring filtered water are mild alkaline pH 8.5 due to the carbon, after that it become neutral pH 7.0. Espring water contains mineral (not RO reverse osmosis water).

The easiest way to make your own alkaline water is to put baking soda (cost less than rm3 / packet).

And the best way to remove acidity from our body is through exercise and drinking fruit juices.

Alkaline water is just marketing gimmick, there is no single scientific proof to show it does any good to our body.



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post May 2 2017, 10:02 AM

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[quote=qiuweng,May 2 2017, 09:11 AM]
What we want from a good water filter is
1) able to remove contaminants that are harmful to our body
2) kills bacteria and viruses

Alkaline water filter do none of the above, expect for making the water to become alkaline???

mean that coway model Neo,...cuckoo which product alkaline water uable to remove contaminants that are harmful n kills bacteria and viruses ???

sori...i am not expert....still in learning about water filter.....



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post May 2 2017, 10:34 AM

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any brand is product natural water, not RO, alkaline, energy water???
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post May 2 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 2 2017, 10:02 AM)


mean that coway model Neo,...cuckoo which product alkaline water uable to remove contaminants that are harmful n kills bacteria and viruses ???

sori...i am not expert....still in learning about water filter.....
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For alkaline water filter, they are not focused on filtering the contaminants, but focusing on 'alkaline is good for health'. All alkaline water filters will have a carbon filter to filter the contaminants, however it is a very inefficient carbon filter. Hence it is very bad at removing contaminants, bacteria and viruses.

QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 2 2017, 10:34 AM)
any brand is product natural water, not RO, alkaline, energy water???
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3M, eSpring or other cheap, not certified water filter.
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post May 2 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Terbulance @ May 2 2017, 11:26 AM)
For alkaline water filter, they are not focused on filtering the contaminants, but focusing on 'alkaline is good for health'. All alkaline water filters will have a carbon filter to filter the contaminants, however it is a very inefficient carbon filter. Hence it is very bad at removing contaminants, bacteria and viruses.
3M, eSpring or other cheap, not certified water filter.
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ok....tq tq tq

if espring...need to boil our-self.... sad.gif sad.gif
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post May 2 2017, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 2 2017, 02:01 PM)
ok....tq tq tq

if espring...need to boil our-self.... sad.gif  sad.gif
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For eSpring, you do not need to boil the water, you can direct drink it (but it still depends on what the user preferred, some still wanted to boil it which is your choice).

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post May 3 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ May 2 2017, 04:41 PM)
For eSpring, you do not need to boil the water, you can direct drink it (but it still depends on what the user preferred, some still wanted to boil it which is your choice).
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cboys00
post May 3 2017, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ May 2 2017, 04:41 PM)
For eSpring, you do not need to boil the water, you can direct drink it (but it still depends on what the user preferred, some still wanted to boil it which is your choice).
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what kind of espring product??? nature water, or mineral water

what is difference between natura, mineral, RO, akaline, anything else???

which is best for us??? is nature water?? which brand is product nature water ??? only espring, 3M?????


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post May 3 2017, 12:35 PM

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another question is espring...

http://www.amway.com/at-home/eSpring/technology

compare to others brand....espring technology only have ULTRAVIOLET TECHNOLOGY and CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY

ULTRAVIOLET TECHNOLOGY ---The eSpring® Water Purifier is unique when compared to other in-home purifiers because it contains an all-in-one cartridge with an ultraviolet (UV) lamp inside a carbon-block filter* to treat water without chemicals. The UV bulb exposes water to powerful UV doses up 80 millijoules (units of measure) per square centimeter. The Water Purifier also reduces more than 140 potential health-effect contaminants that may be present in drinking water with its multistage, pressed carbon-block filter.

CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY --The eSpring® System uses a patented, multi-stage carbon block that:
Reduces chlorine taste and odor
Traps particulates to boost water clarity
Effectively reduces over 140 possible health-effect contaminants

**how can it reduces over 140 possible health-effect contaminants only using CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY????

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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 3 2017, 12:14 PM)
what kind of espring product??? nature water, or mineral water

what is difference between natura, mineral, RO, akaline, anything else???

which is best for us???  is nature water??  which  brand is product nature water ??? only espring, 3M?????
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Natural = based on your water source
Mineral = water with minerals
RO = only H2O, no minerals
Alkaline = pH > 7

Recommend to drink water which is free of contaminants while retaining the natural minerals in the water.

QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 3 2017, 12:35 PM)
another question is espring...

http://www.amway.com/at-home/eSpring/technology

compare to others brand....espring technology only have ULTRAVIOLET TECHNOLOGY and  CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY

ULTRAVIOLET TECHNOLOGY ---The eSpring® Water Purifier is unique when compared to other in-home purifiers because it contains an all-in-one cartridge with an ultraviolet (UV) lamp inside a carbon-block filter* to treat water without chemicals. The UV bulb exposes water to powerful UV doses up 80 millijoules (units of measure) per square centimeter. The Water Purifier also reduces more than 140 potential health-effect contaminants that may be present in drinking water with its multistage, pressed carbon-block filter.

CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY --The eSpring® System uses a patented, multi-stage carbon block that:
Reduces chlorine taste and odor
Traps particulates to boost water clarity
Effectively reduces over 140 possible health-effect contaminants

**how can it reduces over 140 possible health-effect contaminants only using CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY????
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eSpring Carbon Filter Technology uses activated carbon. There are very fine spores on the carbon which will trap contaminants. The activated carbon also reacts towards the contaminants and attracts it onto the carbon. Effectively removes particulates down to 0.2 microns.

As for viruses and bacteria, it is destroyed / deactivated by UV light. Both these technologies and design are patented.

The 140 contaminants are certified to be filtered by 3rd party organisation, NSF.
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Above replies have answered your questions. eSpring is certified by NSF & WQA to remove 140 contaminants effectively which includes bacteria & virus.
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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 3 2017, 12:35 PM)
another question is espring...

http://www.amway.com/at-home/eSpring/technology

compare to others brand....espring technology only have ULTRAVIOLET TECHNOLOGY and  CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY

ULTRAVIOLET TECHNOLOGY ---The eSpring® Water Purifier is unique when compared to other in-home purifiers because it contains an all-in-one cartridge with an ultraviolet (UV) lamp inside a carbon-block filter* to treat water without chemicals. The UV bulb exposes water to powerful UV doses up 80 millijoules (units of measure) per square centimeter. The Water Purifier also reduces more than 140 potential health-effect contaminants that may be present in drinking water with its multistage, pressed carbon-block filter.

CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY --The eSpring® System uses a patented, multi-stage carbon block that:
Reduces chlorine taste and odor
Traps particulates to boost water clarity
Effectively reduces over 140 possible health-effect contaminants

**how can it reduces over 140 possible health-effect contaminants only using CARBON FILTER TECHNOLOGY????
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The question is not can it deliver. Is if you really need water to be that clean. Water filter is like insurance. How much protection is enough?
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QUOTE(oyching88 @ May 3 2017, 06:57 PM)
Above replies have answered your questions. eSpring is certified by NSF & WQA to remove 140 contaminants effectively which includes bacteria & virus.
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how can 1 carbon filter can remove 140 contaminants...very easy ???

and others brand use many many filter????


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post May 4 2017, 10:33 AM

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how about this

3M™ Filtered Water Dispenser HCD-2

it also product natura water ????

it is also from Korea (saleman say)??? or singapore?? http://solutions.3m.com.sg/wps/portal/3M/e...ation/about/us/

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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 4 2017, 10:06 AM)
how can 1 carbon filter can remove 140 contaminants...very easy ???

and others brand use many many filter????
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The technology developed by Amway is different from others. Hence one carbon filter is enough while other makers need few filters, and still not able to filter 140 contaminants.

I do not know in details how it can filter the contaminants other than what I have explained to you, but the important thing is it is proven and certified by NSF (3rd party non-profit organisation) that it can filter the stated 140 contaminants effectively. How the technology was developed? Sorry to say I am not one of the scientists who made it.

If you are still skeptical, please find more information on the internet.
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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 4 2017, 10:06 AM)
how can 1 carbon filter can remove 140 contaminants...very easy ???

and others brand use many many filter????
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140 contaminants removals include the UV light to kill bacteria and virus.
This is a very good question, why need 3 or 6 filters if only 1 can do the job?
Many RO or alkaline water system have many filters, but the only real filter that remove contaminants is only 1,and it's rather very small filter. The others filters have other functions like adding minerals, add alkaline levels, ionising and etc...
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This is comparison of eSpring cartridge with another X brand Cxxxx filter which used to remove contaminants, the size tells all the stories.
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ May 4 2017, 04:39 PM)
The technology developed by Amway is different from others. Hence one carbon filter is enough while other makers need few filters, and still not able to filter 140 contaminants.

I do not know in details how it can filter the contaminants other than what I have explained to you, but the important thing is it is proven and certified by NSF (3rd party non-profit organisation) that it can filter the stated 140 contaminants effectively. How the technology was developed? Sorry to say I am not one of the scientists who made it.

If you are still skeptical, please find more information on the internet.
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post May 5 2017, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ May 4 2017, 05:07 PM)
140 contaminants removals include the UV light to kill bacteria and virus.
This is a very good question, why need 3 or 6 filters if only 1 can do the job?
Many RO or alkaline water system have many filters, but the only real filter that remove contaminants is only 1,and it's rather very small filter. The others filters have other functions like adding minerals, add alkaline levels, ionising and etc...
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This is comparison of eSpring cartridge with another X brand Cxxxx filter which used to remove contaminants, the size tells all the stories.
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cboys00
post May 5 2017, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(cboys00 @ May 4 2017, 10:33 AM)
how about this

3M™ Filtered Water Dispenser HCD-2

it also product natura water ????

it is also from Korea (saleman say)??? or singapore??  http://solutions.3m.com.sg/wps/portal/3M/e...ation/about/us/
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how about this..anyone use it????
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QUOTE(Terbulance @ May 2 2017, 11:26 AM)
3M, eSpring or other cheap, not certified water filter.
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how about 3M...it made from???

from http://www.3m.com.my/3M/en_MY/company-my/c...ny-information/

it from malaysia??? ....saleman say from korea???



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