Anyone here using smart home automation?
Control your aircond and lights from smart phone, lightings from smart phone and smoke detector sends signals to smart phone and etc.
Smart Home, Let's discuss
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Apr 18 2015, 01:35 AM
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planning to get Samsung SHS-P717 door lock end of the month when I visit kimchi land  and also LG Roboking VR 6370 LVM  Already have -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan and TV in the rooms via phone -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan, TV, Astro, Home theater via phone -IP camera for movement tracking This post has been edited by babyk: Apr 18 2015, 01:38 AM ss_izal liked this post
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 01:35 AM) planning to get Samsung SHS-P717 door lock end of the month when I visit kimchi land LG Roboking I had it long time ago, the door lock worry no battery can't open door and also LG Roboking VR 6370 LVM Already have -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan and TV in the rooms via phone -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan, TV, Astro, Home theater via phone -IP camera for movement tracking   This post has been edited by kimsim: Apr 18 2015, 07:24 AM |
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 01:35 AM) planning to get Samsung SHS-P717 door lock end of the month when I visit kimchi land Why you need a smart Home? and also LG Roboking VR 6370 LVM Already have -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan and TV in the rooms via phone -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan, TV, Astro, Home theater via phone -IP camera for movement tracking It cost energy to use. Troublesome. Even just on/off a device. |
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Apr 18 2015, 09:34 AM
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how much price for door?
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Apr 18 2015, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 09:28 AM) Why you need a smart Home? Because I can always remote access to my house to control when I am not at homeIt cost energy to use. Troublesome. Even just on/off a device. It is not troublesome, if you feel troublesome, your setup is totally wrong Jaclow liked this post
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 09:28 AM) Why you need a smart Home? Because I can always remote access to my house to control when I am not at homeIt cost energy to use. Troublesome. Even just on/off a device. It is not troublesome, if you feel troublesome, your setup is totally wrong |
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 18 2015, 07:23 AM) LG Roboking I had it long time ago, the door lock worry no battery can't open door don't worry about that, it will give you warning about 1 week to replace the batteries |
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Apr 18 2015, 09:34 AM) how much price for door? door lock price around RM1000This post has been edited by babyk: Apr 18 2015, 09:53 AM |
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Apr 18 2015, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 09:47 AM) Because I can always remote access to my house to control when I am not at home What to control when you're not at home?It is not troublesome, if you feel troublesome, your setup is totally wrong |
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Apr 18 2015, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 09:52 AM) don't worry about that, it will give you warning about 1 week to replace the batteries No manual overwrite? |
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Apr 18 2015, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 10:06 AM) What to control when you're not at home? switching on my aircond when i am on my way back home switching on my TV when I near to the house or upon timer setup basically i control everything on IR remote such as TV, Astro This post has been edited by babyk: Apr 18 2015, 10:15 AM |
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Apr 18 2015, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 10:06 AM) What to control when you're not at home? there are another model which comes with keys for manual overwritebut the particular model i wanted you can use 9V battery to power up the door when the inside batteries are flat |
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Apr 18 2015, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 10:14 AM) switching on my aircond when i am on my way back home I always read and hear people said this same thing.switching on my TV when I near to the house or upon timer setup basically i control everything on IR remote such as TV, Astro For me, it is just a waste of energy and time. Doesn't really usefull. The only reason I can think of is, it is a luxury thing. |
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Apr 18 2015, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 10:17 AM) there are another model which comes with keys for manual overwrite Let say, 1 day you comeback home and your lock out of battery. Either you,but the particular model i wanted you can use 9V battery to power up the door when the inside batteries are flat 1) Always carry a 9v battery. 2) Go out and get a 9v battery. If late night, 7/11 is the only answer. |
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Apr 18 2015, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 02:15 PM) I always read and hear people said this same thing. wasting energy? far from it.For me, it is just a waste of energy and time. Doesn't really usefull. The only reason I can think of is, it is a luxury thing. embedded systems use far less energy than your wireless router or the astro receiver. correctly integrated it will save lots of electricity. |
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Apr 18 2015, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 18 2015, 02:31 PM) wasting energy? far from it. The unit is still running on energy. There is nothing is zero energy. And the energy that run on this controller unit is worth benefit to me? embedded systems use far less energy than your wireless router or the astro receiver. correctly integrated it will save lots of electricity. I don't really need to ON the aircon and light before I reach home. It doesn't save my bill this way. I doesn't need a phone to control everything. When the step to ON a device is too many and take time. This is really my experience that I try before many many yrs. Tendakek liked this post
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Apr 19 2015, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 02:53 PM) The unit is still running on energy. There is nothing is zero energy. And the energy that run on this controller unit is worth benefit to me? sure. because it didn't work for you, i'm sure it won't work for anyone else.I don't really need to ON the aircon and light before I reach home. It doesn't save my bill this way. I doesn't need a phone to control everything. When the step to ON a device is too many and take time. This is really my experience that I try before many many yrs. cheers RViN liked this post
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Apr 19 2015, 09:27 AM
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i know it is a trend now to have "advance state-of-the-art" automatic home control, like sci fi movies....some even have voice / retina / biometric recognition n all....... but.......i can say that home automation has more cons
1) when thunderstorm n lightning (u know malaysia, tropical country) , zappp..... system fried 2) it is quite expensive 3) if u go for biometric control, ur eyes / fingers may be chopped off when thief rob u at ur doorstep 4) it makes u fat n lazy (by not physically moving to switch on something) 5) it makes u more "stupid", ur brain work less (especially when using timer control, u dont need to remember what time to ON the perimeter lights, or OFF the fan, etc etc) |
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Apr 19 2015, 10:05 AM
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there are pros and cons in smart home system
things i would do for smart homes: 1. integrated motion detectors with hd cctv cams and alarm system with fail safe, auto notification...its already available at a certain cost 2. cinema and audio smart mode for cinema/audio room....hehehehehehe like if you wanna watch movie, just press the cinema mode and the lights auto adjusts its level, the projector turns on, the screen comes down, the amps turn on and your ipad has a movie menu other than that.....i still prefer manual.....of coz auto gate is still a standard item to have lar |
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Apr 19 2015, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 02:53 PM) The unit is still running on energy. There is nothing is zero energy. And the energy that run on this controller unit is worth benefit to me? Yeah, it's not so common now, wait until it's a trend, then everyone will be using itI don't really need to ON the aircon and light before I reach home. It doesn't save my bill this way. I doesn't need a phone to control everything. When the step to ON a device is too many and take time. This is really my experience that I try before many many yrs. Similar to smart phone, they used to say smart phone are useless but then now what? The person who said that is using smart phone  Wait till Apple launch smart home, every single home will be using it |
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Apr 19 2015, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 19 2015, 09:13 AM) sure. because it didn't work for you, i'm sure it won't work for anyone else. Nope. I m open mind. I want to know more what it can do. Something new, trend etc. Beside as a luxury thing.cheers I m go through all this as what you guys go through now. New house. Full of idea, ambitious and energy. |
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Apr 19 2015, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(MechaLEE @ Apr 19 2015, 09:27 AM) i know it is a trend now to have "advance state-of-the-art" automatic home control, like sci fi movies....some even have voice / retina / biometric recognition n all....... but.......i can say that home automation has more cons Actually not entirely cons.1) when thunderstorm n lightning (u know malaysia, tropical country) , zappp..... system fried 2) it is quite expensive 3) if u go for biometric control, ur eyes / fingers may be chopped off when thief rob u at ur doorstep 4) it makes u fat n lazy (by not physically moving to switch on something) 5) it makes u more "stupid", ur brain work less (especially when using timer control, u dont need to remember what time to ON the perimeter lights, or OFF the fan, etc etc) You know what, nowadays every house have some sort of home automation/smart. It is just we don't realize it. It blend into our life along we grow. |
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Apr 19 2015, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 19 2015, 11:24 AM) Yeah, it's not so common now, wait until it's a trend, then everyone will be using it Yup. It is not common. Cause the price. And we are not an advance nation. If the smart home can sell at like below 5k, I guess many developer will include into their design. Similar to smart phone, they used to say smart phone are useless but then now what? The person who said that is using smart phone Wait till Apple launch smart home, every single home will be using it |
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Apr 19 2015, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 19 2015, 11:24 AM) Yeah, it's not so common now, wait until it's a trend, then everyone will be using it Similar to smart phone, they used to say smart phone are useless but then now what? The person who said that is using smart phone Wait till Apple launch smart home, every single home will be using it QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 19 2015, 02:17 PM) Yup. It is not common. Cause the price. And we are not an advance nation. If the smart home can sell at like below 5k, I guess many developer will include into their design. wait till Xiaomi launches smart home systemApple smarthome RM15k Xiaomi smarthome RM1k haha |
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Apr 19 2015, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(MechaLEE @ Apr 19 2015, 02:24 PM) wait till Xiaomi launches smart home system But then if that's the case, Xiaomi will steal your house information worth millions of dollars and apple won't Apple smarthome RM15k Xiaomi smarthome RM1k haha |
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Apr 19 2015, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 19 2015, 01:55 PM) Nope. I m open mind. I want to know more what it can do. Something new, trend etc. Beside as a luxury thing. I m go through all this as what you guys go through now. New house. Full of idea, ambitious and energy. I agree with you. I love gadgets but I don't see much use for all these automation. Do I need to turn on/off lights at a certain time? No. Maybe just one or two. Do I need to tell my Aircon to turn on before my arrival? Nope. And then those home automation promo videos always show kettle boil water, make your coffee etc automatically in the morning.....you think who is going to put water in the kettle or coffee into the coffee maker? If got robot Asimo do for you then can lah. Besides turning on/off a few lights, I don't see much use for it. Sure it's very cool to have but the cost out weighs the benefits. Fast forward Jan 2018 - getting my home Xiaomified 😅 This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 12 2018, 06:18 PM |
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Apr 19 2015, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 19 2015, 05:37 PM) I agree with you. I love gadgets but I don't see much use for all these automation. Do I need to turn on/off lights at a certain time? No. Maybe just one or two. Do I need to tell my Aircon to turn on before my arrival? Nope. And then those home automation promo videos always show kettle boil water, make your coffee etc automatically in the morning.....you think who is going to put water in the kettle or coffee into the coffee maker? If got robot Asimo do for you then can lah. would you consider if the device cost is RM150 and it can control things from your smartphone?Besides turning on/off a few lights, I don't see much use for it. Sure it's very cool to have but the cost out weighs the benefits. |
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Apr 19 2015, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 19 2015, 06:15 PM) would you consider if the device cost is RM150 and it can control things from your smartphone? Even Rm1500 I will consider just for the cool factor but is it really helpful in my daily life? I think not really lah. Btw 30 years ago I already playing with x10 devices. I bought a simple system - can turn on/off appliances, lights at a set time. Can also use remote to control.m |
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Apr 19 2015, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 19 2015, 05:37 PM) I agree with you. I love gadgets but I don't see much use for all these automation. Do I need to turn on/off lights at a certain time? No. Maybe just one or two. Do I need to tell my Aircon to turn on before my arrival? Nope. And then those home automation promo videos always show kettle boil water, make your coffee etc automatically in the morning.....you think who is going to put water in the kettle or coffee into the coffee maker? If got robot Asimo do for you then can lah. Actually such ads did fool me before. Besides turning on/off a few lights, I don't see much use for it. Sure it's very cool to have but the cost out weighs the benefits.  Young and naïve ma.  So I experience all this so call remote control gadget la, automation la, smart thing la, bla bla bla gadget. Than realize, what the hell am I doing. What an idiot to turn ON the light before I set foot in my home. When time pass, 1 by 1 thing get clearly and understand the stupidness I am with such an automation thing. And now I see people repeat the same thing that I go through. Same reason given that from the saleman and ads. Of course with a new trend, twist and some modify. But the smart/automation didn't die from my brain. I still pickup some smart/automation which I think is really really usefull. That worth the energy that I pay every mth. Well, technology is my work. |
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Apr 19 2015, 07:11 PM
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No need apa smart home. Give me motorized roller blinds with remote also I happy liao. China selling so cheap those motors but over here they wants tens of thousand ringgit.
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Apr 19 2015, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 19 2015, 07:11 PM) No need apa smart home. Give me motorized roller blinds with remote also I happy liao. China selling so cheap those motors but over here they wants tens of thousand ringgit. Everything with remote is smart |
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Apr 19 2015, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 19 2015, 07:15 PM) Everything with remote is smart Not really smart la. remote control still needs a human to press press 😅All individual devices. |
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Apr 19 2015, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 19 2015, 07:34 PM) Not really smart la. remote control still needs a human to press press 😅 That is why the smart device consolidate all devices into one and you can control everything from your phone inside or outside of the house All individual devices. |
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Apr 19 2015, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 19 2015, 07:11 PM) No need apa smart home. Give me motorized roller blinds with remote also I happy liao. China selling so cheap those motors but over here they wants tens of thousand ringgit. Get the motor and diy la. |
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Apr 19 2015, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 19 2015, 07:39 PM) That is why the smart device consolidate all devices into one and you can control everything from your phone inside or outside of the house In another words a smart home is nothing more than a huge remote control |
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Apr 19 2015, 08:09 PM
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Get yourself few arduino, some add on relay, sensors, with some programing you got yourself fully control house, and as smart as you can program.
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Apr 19 2015, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 19 2015, 07:11 PM) No need apa smart home. Give me motorized roller blinds with remote also I happy liao. China selling so cheap those motors but over here they wants tens of thousand ringgit. Ah, remind me back my curtain project. Thought DIY. But seeing the price, better just order from china.http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-retra...1465630904.html |
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Apr 20 2015, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 19 2015, 08:16 PM) Ah, remind me back my curtain project. Thought DIY. But seeing the price, better just order from china. You got plaster ceiling near your curtains?http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Smart-retra...1465630904.html I don't have. How to get power to the motor? |
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Apr 20 2015, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 08:05 AM) You got plaster ceiling near your curtains? Pull from lighting point lo.I don't have. How to get power to the motor? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 08:05 AM) You got plaster ceiling near your curtains? As weikee said, lightning point or power point nearby. I don't have. How to get power to the motor? Better get it done now since you're doing reno. |
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Apr 20 2015, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 20 2015, 08:17 AM) Pull from lighting point lo. How to hide the wires? Hack the ceiling? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 20 2015, 08:21 AM) As weikee said, lightning point or power point nearby. Just curious only. No budget to do motorized blinds la Better get it done now since you're doing reno. And I don't have plaster ceiling - can't hide wiring and the transformer This post has been edited by idoblu: Apr 20 2015, 08:24 AM |
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Apr 20 2015, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 08:22 AM) Just curious only. No budget to do motorized blinds la Just stanby put a power point there for future lor. Not necessary to do it now. Buy a RM5 small junction box to close the wire. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 08:21 AM) How to hide the wires? Hack the ceiling? If only have concrete / cement without plaster ceiling have to use cutter to create a "longkang" to put wires, and plaster it back. Using diamond cutter will be fast and easy, only -ve side is dusty, therefore need to wet the area first to reduce the dust. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 20 2015, 08:44 AM) If only have concrete / cement without plaster ceiling have to use cutter to create a "longkang" to put wires, and plaster it back. Using diamond cutter will be fast and easy, only -ve side is dusty, therefore need to wet the area first to reduce the dust. Market do not have wireless motor for curtain? |
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Apr 20 2015, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 20 2015, 09:33 AM) Market do not have wireless motor for curtain? So where to get the power? solar? The only wireless will be hand motor. |
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Apr 20 2015, 10:05 AM
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Battery operate ? He.....
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 20 2015, 09:58 AM) So where to get the power? solar? The only wireless will be hand motor. Lol. That is mechanical already. QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 20 2015, 10:05 AM) Battery operate ? He..... Yes, battery. Just like those wireless alarm system. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 20 2015, 10:14 AM) Lol. That is mechanical already. Motorized will suck up battery like crazy. You plan to use NS 70? or perhaps Din 75?Yes, battery. Just like those wireless alarm system. |
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Apr 20 2015, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 20 2015, 10:24 AM) Motorized will suck up battery like crazy. You plan to use NS 70? or perhaps Din 75? You kidding? A car battery beside your curtain rail ? |
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Apr 20 2015, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 20 2015, 10:14 AM) Lol. That is mechanical already. Running on normal battery will drain out fast. If you talk about AA or AAA.Yes, battery. Just like those wireless alarm system. |
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Apr 20 2015, 10:43 AM
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9V battery? Or those thin round shape battery?
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Apr 20 2015, 10:57 AM
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9V battery is just the voltage high. But the Amp is very low. Even lower than the AA.
You need high Amp to run if the voltage is lower. |
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Apr 20 2015, 11:03 AM
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9v battery is the least amps you can get. You may need like 100 of it.
Check the motor watt, you know the AH required. A 200 watt motor, need at least 18amps for a 12v battery. |
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Apr 20 2015, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 20 2015, 09:58 AM) So where to get the power? solar? The only wireless will be hand motor. Yes Solar!It has battery inside the tubing and recharge via Solar http://en.dooya.com/products_5.html |
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Apr 20 2015, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 12:24 PM) Yes Solar! Do try out, let us know the outcome, and performance.It has battery inside the tubing and recharge via Solar http://en.dooya.com/products_5.html |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 20 2015, 10:57 AM) 9V battery is just the voltage high. But the Amp is very low. Even lower than the AA. You need high Amp to run if the voltage is lower. QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 20 2015, 11:03 AM) 9v battery is the least amps you can get. You may need like 100 of it. Seems like not possible for battery operation.Check the motor watt, you know the AH required. A 200 watt motor, need at least 18amps for a 12v battery. QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 12:24 PM) Yes Solar! China product! Hmmmmm It has battery inside the tubing and recharge via Solar http://en.dooya.com/products_5.html  |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 20 2015, 03:09 PM) Seems like not possible for battery operation. You want angmoh product? This one is French -China product! Hmmmmm http://www.somfysystems.com Btw Somfy System bought over 70% of Dooya so in the end still China made products This post has been edited by idoblu: Apr 20 2015, 03:16 PM |
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Apr 20 2015, 03:29 PM
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so lets say, I want to able to control light with my phone, where do I start, how much do I need to get it started?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 03:13 PM) You want angmoh product? This one is French - http://www.somfysystems.com Btw Somfy System bought over 70% of Dooya so in the end still China made products QUOTE(set @ Apr 20 2015, 03:29 PM) so lets say, I want to able to control light with my phone, where do I start, how much do I need to get it started? How you want to control the lights? On/off? |
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Apr 20 2015, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 03:13 PM) You want angmoh product? This one is French - The sun sensor looks good.http://www.somfysystems.com Btw Somfy System bought over 70% of Dooya so in the end still China made products QUOTE(set @ Apr 20 2015, 03:29 PM) so lets say, I want to able to control light with my phone, where do I start, how much do I need to get it started? How you want to control the lights? On/off? |
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Apr 20 2015, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 20 2015, 04:09 PM) The sun sensor looks good. yep, just a simple on offHow you want to control the lights? On/off? |
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Apr 20 2015, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(set @ Apr 20 2015, 04:11 PM) yep, just a simple on off Not available in Malaysia, right? |
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Apr 20 2015, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 03:13 PM) You want angmoh product? This one is French - Something not really logical here, if need to install Solar panel, what happen if the windows blind/curtain are further inside the house/house owner have awning? I doubt the panel able to run that efficient to charge the battery if the panel are cover with the awning?http://www.somfysystems.com Btw Somfy System bought over 70% of Dooya so in the end still China made products |
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Apr 20 2015, 04:31 PM
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Dear All I am using this at home Would introduce you all to use this  |
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Apr 20 2015, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 20 2015, 04:29 PM) Something not really logical here, if need to install Solar panel, what happen if the windows blind/curtain are further inside the house/house owner have awning? I doubt the panel able to run that efficient to charge the battery if the panel are cover with the awning? That's why they got different product for different situation |
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Apr 20 2015, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 20 2015, 04:36 PM) That's why they got different product for different situation Somehow still need to do the wiring. Solar or main power. Can't run away. |
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Apr 20 2015, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 20 2015, 04:31 PM) Dear All I am using this at home Would introduce you all to use this |
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Apr 20 2015, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 20 2015, 03:09 PM) Seems like not possible for battery operation. I don't no how reliable. But if too expensive for such a simple task, I rather just use my hand. China product! Hmmmmm Unless I have those banglo 2storey tall curtain. This post has been edited by ozak: Apr 20 2015, 06:28 PM |
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Apr 20 2015, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 20 2015, 06:25 PM) How many pcs do I need in my home ? To control AV, light, aircon. One for living and depending how far is your another Aircond, if no blockage, one is enough |
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Apr 21 2015, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 20 2015, 06:25 PM) How many pcs do I need in my home ? To control AV, light, aircon. You can have a look into logitech harmony 1 remote. 1 piece settle all.QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 20 2015, 06:27 PM) I don't no how reliable. But if too expensive for such a simple task, I rather just use my hand. Haha, even 2 storey curtain hand operate also not difficult la. Unless I have those banglo 2storey tall curtain. |
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Apr 21 2015, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 21 2015, 10:06 AM) You can have a look into logitech harmony 1 remote. 1 piece settle all. Oh yeah, forgotten this harmony remote. Last time did consider this after my media player remote cannot find anymore. But too expensive. Haha, even 2 storey curtain hand operate also not difficult la.  Now I have receiver remote which function almost same as Harmony 1. But seldom use as too many function have to remember. Still individual remote is the best. All line up on the coffee table. For this broadlink, you need 1 for each room. Cannot control room aircon if the unit at the living room right ? But still troublesome to use. As it need phone and too many step. QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 21 2015, 10:06 AM) You can have a look into logitech harmony 1 remote. 1 piece settle all. Those high curtain very heavy 1 wor. For lady, you need more strength to pull. And the mean of pull, sometime mistake "pull down". Not pull left/right.Haha, even 2 storey curtain hand operate also not difficult la. |
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Apr 21 2015, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 21 2015, 12:36 PM) Oh yeah, forgotten this harmony remote. Last time did consider this after my media player remote cannot find anymore. But too expensive. Logitech got cheaper one too. But use IR not RF. Now I have receiver remote which function almost same as Harmony 1. But seldom use as too many function have to remember. Still individual remote is the best. All line up on the coffee table. For this broadlink, you need 1 for each room. Cannot control room aircon if the unit at the living room right ? But still troublesome to use. As it need phone and too many step. Those high curtain very heavy 1 wor. For lady, you need more strength to pull. And the mean of pull, sometime mistake "pull down". Not pull left/right. Got pulley to help ma, little strength needed only |
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Apr 23 2015, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 01:35 AM) planning to get Samsung SHS-P717 door lock end of the month when I visit kimchi land How much to get this in Malaysia?and also LG Roboking VR 6370 LVM Already have -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan and TV in the rooms via phone -Smart home automation for controlling aircond, fan, TV, Astro, Home theater via phone -IP camera for movement tracking The door lock is dual function? Thumbprint and pin code? |
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Apr 23 2015, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(luvimp @ Apr 23 2015, 11:33 AM) How much to get this in Malaysia? This model should be RFiDThe door lock is dual function? Thumbprint and pin code? If you get it in korea is cheaper, and 2nd alternative is in Ebay. Your challenge will be getting the correct installer. And Also the door thickness need to be according to the lock requirement. |
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Apr 23 2015, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 23 2015, 11:35 AM) This model should be RFiD Locksnmore selling RM2399 inclusive of installation and warranty.If you get it in korea is cheaper, and 2nd alternative is in Ebay. Your challenge will be getting the correct installer. And Also the door thickness need to be according to the lock requirement. |
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Apr 23 2015, 08:06 PM
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You can get it below RM1000 if you know where to get it
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Apr 23 2015, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(luvimp @ Apr 23 2015, 04:15 PM) Locksnmore selling RM2399 inclusive of installation and warranty. LocksNmore got a very sturdy Schlage electronic lock. Much much more solid than the Samsung. Around the same price.If anyone knows where I can get a cheaper price pls let me know. Next best are the Yale. |
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Apr 24 2015, 09:10 AM
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Never heard of Schlage but i saw online and their electronic lock is not as good looking as Samsung. Same goes to Yale which i find it the most ugly. Samsung have this push and pull electronic lock which i find it very convenient. I personally prefer electronic lock due to the looks and much more convenient to open door without keys.
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Apr 24 2015, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 23 2015, 08:06 PM) You can get it below RM1000 if you know where to get it Where? |
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Apr 25 2015, 07:25 AM
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I think I might get a smart doorbell
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Apr 25 2015, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 25 2015, 07:25 AM) I think I might get a smart doorbell Not bad also. Price a bit high side. See can get it in US for a cheaper price. |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 25 2015, 07:25 AM) I think I might get a smart doorbell A nice product, maybe good for apartment or high rise area. When the last time someone press door bell in landed? |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:36 AM
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Believe bro idoblu's new pad can use this product so should be ok. Besides I didn't see any mention of the said product to be weather-proof for landed property. Wouldn't be suitable for landed property owners in m'sia
QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 25 2015, 11:19 AM) A nice product, maybe good for apartment or high rise area. When the last time someone press door bell in landed? |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 25 2015, 10:19 AM) A nice product, maybe good for apartment or high rise area. When the last time someone press door bell in landed? True also. Forget when is my last door bell ring... |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(S'aimer @ Apr 25 2015, 10:36 AM) Believe bro idoblu's new pad can use this product so should be ok. Besides I didn't see any mention of the said product to be weather-proof for landed property. Wouldn't be suitable for landed property owners in m'sia It is waterproof. But abit fragile for thieft proof. |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:49 AM
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Only time will tell, especially with our hot sun.
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Apr 25 2015, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 25 2015, 10:19 AM) A nice product, maybe good for apartment or high rise area. When the last time someone press door bell in landed? I find the opposite to be true.Landed will see more ppl using the door bell High rise - usually the guards already intercom you ahead and the only neighbors that will ring your doorbell will be those on the same floor. Other floors occupants can't even get to your floor nowadays Anyway I kinda hate doorbells. I disconnected mine when I was staying at a condo. Actually I'm looking for a programmable door chime. I want to put Star Trek wav files in it 😁 This post has been edited by idoblu: Apr 25 2015, 07:43 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 25 2015, 07:39 PM) I find the opposite to be true. Not all apartment and condo have direct paging, only newer build up.Landed will see more ppl using the door bell High rise - usually the guards already intercom you ahead and the only neighbors that will ring your doorbell will be those on the same floor. Other floors occupants can't even get to your floor nowadays Anyway I kinda hate doorbells. I disconnected mine when I was staying at a condo. Actually I'm looking for a programmable door chime. I want to put Star Trek wav files in it 😁 My house hardly anyone press, I have to once a while press to make sure is still functioning  There are some newer design can use wave file. But not loud enough. Still prefer the "dong" or "ding dong" sound. Louder and crispy sound. |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 25 2015, 07:25 AM) I think I might get a smart doorbell Looks cool and useful. Can consider to get one if not costly. |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 25 2015, 07:39 PM) I find the opposite to be true. Your door bell sound weird with the Star Trek soundtrack.Landed will see more ppl using the door bell High rise - usually the guards already intercom you ahead and the only neighbors that will ring your doorbell will be those on the same floor. Other floors occupants can't even get to your floor nowadays Anyway I kinda hate doorbells. I disconnected mine when I was staying at a condo. Actually I'm looking for a programmable door chime. I want to put Star Trek wav files in it 😁 |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 25 2015, 10:21 PM) Your door bell sound weird with the Star Trek soundtrack. I want this http://www.trekcore.com/audio/doors/voy_door_chime_2.mp3 Or this http://www.trekcore.com/audio/computer/voi...ertdeck8_ep.mp3 This post has been edited by idoblu: Apr 25 2015, 10:34 PM |
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Apr 25 2015, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 25 2015, 10:30 PM) I want this Walau, you sci fi fan huh. http://www.trekcore.com/audio/doors/voy_door_chime_2.mp3 Or this http://www.trekcore.com/audio/computer/voi...ertdeck8_ep.mp3 Don't tell me your house reno like space ship theme. This post has been edited by ozak: Apr 25 2015, 10:42 PM |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 25 2015, 10:41 PM) Walau, you sci fi fan huh. My iPhone using Star Trek sounds too for incoming text and ring Don't tell me your house reno like space ship theme. House - no la, my new place hardly do anything. Move a bit also money  |
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Apr 26 2015, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 26 2015, 06:16 AM) My iPhone using Star Trek sounds too for incoming text and ring Nah. Some sample starship quarter for you to renovate your room. House - no la, my new place hardly do anything. Move a bit also money  You can name your room Deck 6-Section 36. He...he...Taken at Star Trek exhibition in science center.   |
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Apr 26 2015, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 25 2015, 08:02 PM) There are some newer design can use wave file. But not loud enough. Still prefer the "dong" or "ding dong" sound. Louder and crispy sound. This post has been edited by idoblu: Apr 26 2015, 09:03 PM |
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Apr 26 2015, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 26 2015, 09:03 PM) where can find? Last time I seenbit in expo, maybe no one use, close shop already. You can try eBay or aliexpress |
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Apr 27 2015, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 26 2015, 09:27 AM) Nah. Some sample starship quarter for you to renovate your room. It will be super cool to have it in ones house. You can name your room Deck 6-Section 36. He...he...Taken at Star Trek exhibition in science center. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 27 2015, 04:55 PM) It will be super cool to have it in ones house. My dream.  If you see cleary, it is not difficult to reno. Most of the furniture is already have in local here. Those light are LED. And the shape can settle with the carpenter. |
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Apr 27 2015, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 27 2015, 05:08 PM) My dream. Definitely possible. If you see cleary, it is not difficult to reno. Most of the furniture is already have in local here. Those light are LED. And the shape can settle with the carpenter. Wait to see you actual pictures then. |
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Apr 27 2015, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Apr 27 2015, 05:16 PM) Definitely possible. $$$ Wait to see you actual pictures then. |
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Apr 27 2015, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 27 2015, 05:19 PM) $$$ That is not a big problem.Earn them, man! |
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May 1 2015, 09:39 PM
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Check out the Sharp Cloud smart home solution (looks more like a security system) - I'm interested in the IP Cam only
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Jun 26 2015, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(limkopi78 @ Jun 26 2015, 01:20 AM) Pretty cool. Seems to understand his singlish accent pretty well "Computer, photon torpedos next door neighbor" This post has been edited by idoblu: Jun 26 2015, 09:46 AM |
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I always away from home. I need smart system to control lighting, cctv, door lock & autogate. Any cheep solution?
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I'm planning to implement home automation using z-wave protocol, probably using vera edge as the controller. Not much device using Malaysia Z-wave frequency, so probably using EU frequency. What I plan to do:
1. security: integrate with NAS, IP camera and Alarm system. Compatibility is important for the communications of the devices. Thus, I'm getting Asustor NAS and Hikvision IP camera(with motion detect, alarm IO and audio IO) which is compatible with the Asustor ADM. Asustor will send email and SMS(need subscription) once motion detected from IP camera. eg: motion detected on the window area (before someone go near the window even before he touch the window). Alarm IO of the IP camera will connect the Z-wave binary sensor which connected to the Vera Edge. Then, Vera Edge trigger the outdoor flood light to deter the potential burglar. In second stage when he insist to break in from the window, alarm came in when trigger the sensor on the window. Of course all these will be under monitor remotely, looking through ip camera from mobile phone once the first stage triggered (received email & sms). PIR sensors will be installed indoor too, including the attic in case the first line of defend breached. 2. Automation: Since the alarm is connected to Vera Edge, PIR from the alarm can be used to automate the switching on or off the lighting during the alarm disarmed/armed stay mode. (eg: walk to kitchen, movement detected, switch light on. After no motion of period of time, switch off light to save energy.) Another thing I plan to get is the z-wave smoke detector so I will be notified when something is burning in the house. Not sure if there is smoke detector + air quality monitor that include detection of gas leakage, if there is such product is even better can alert when gas leak from kitchen. Besides the above, normal stuff like lighting switch and some wall plug switch will be z-wave enabled too. Zwave IR remote is a nice touch up to control gadget that is IR controlled too. As for the lock, I will use the traditional lock. Because I'm kind of a paranoid just in case the system is being hacked or breached  Therefore, any remotely accessed content such as IP cam feed will be tunnel through VPN from remote to home. No port will open/forward, just the VPN. Guest WiFi will be VLAN separated so visitor will not have direct contact with the system.All the above will be DIY including the alarm because need to use compatible alarm system but still need to figure out where to get all the components This post has been edited by ywkwy: Jun 26 2015, 04:46 PM |
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QUOTE(ywkwy @ Jun 26 2015, 04:42 PM) I'm planning to implement home automation using z-wave protocol, probably using vera edge as the controller. Not much device using Malaysia Z-wave frequency, so probably using EU frequency. What I plan to do: Wow, look fantastic your idea. Show us when u are done. 1. security: integrate with NAS, IP camera and Alarm system. Compatibility is important for the communications of the devices. Thus, I'm getting Asustor NAS and Hikvision IP camera(with motion detect, alarm IO and audio IO) which is compatible with the Asustor ADM. Asustor will send email and SMS(need subscription) once motion detected from IP camera. eg: motion detected on the window area (before someone go near the window even before he touch the window). Alarm IO of the IP camera will connect the Z-wave binary sensor which connected to the Vera Edge. Then, Vera Edge trigger the outdoor flood light to deter the potential burglar. In second stage when he insist to break in from the window, alarm came in when trigger the sensor on the window. Of course all these will be under monitor remotely, looking through ip camera from mobile phone once the first stage triggered (received email & sms). PIR sensors will be installed indoor too, including the attic in case the first line of defend breached. 2. Automation: Since the alarm is connected to Vera Edge, PIR from the alarm can be used to automate the switching on or off the lighting during the alarm disarmed/armed stay mode. (eg: walk to kitchen, movement detected, switch light on. After no motion of period of time, switch off light to save energy.) Another thing I plan to get is the z-wave smoke detector so I will be notified when something is burning in the house. Not sure if there is smoke detector + air quality monitor that include detection of gas leakage, if there is such product is even better can alert when gas leak from kitchen. Besides the above, normal stuff like lighting switch and some wall plug switch will be z-wave enabled too. Zwave IR remote is a nice touch up to control gadget that is IR controlled too. As for the lock, I will use the traditional lock. Because I'm kind of a paranoid just in case the system is being hacked or breached Therefore, any remotely accessed content such as IP cam feed will be tunnel through VPN from remote to home. No port will open/forward, just the VPN. Guest WiFi will be VLAN separated so visitor will not have direct contact with the system.All the above will be DIY including the alarm because need to use compatible alarm system but still need to figure out where to get all the components |
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QUOTE(ywkwy @ Jun 26 2015, 04:42 PM) I'm planning to implement home automation using z-wave protocol, probably using vera edge as the controller. Not much device using Malaysia Z-wave frequency, so probably using EU frequency. What I plan to do: Can you maintain it ?1. security: integrate with NAS, IP camera and Alarm system. Compatibility is important for the communications of the devices. Thus, I'm getting Asustor NAS and Hikvision IP camera(with motion detect, alarm IO and audio IO) which is compatible with the Asustor ADM. Asustor will send email and SMS(need subscription) once motion detected from IP camera. eg: motion detected on the window area (before someone go near the window even before he touch the window). Alarm IO of the IP camera will connect the Z-wave binary sensor which connected to the Vera Edge. Then, Vera Edge trigger the outdoor flood light to deter the potential burglar. In second stage when he insist to break in from the window, alarm came in when trigger the sensor on the window. Of course all these will be under monitor remotely, looking through ip camera from mobile phone once the first stage triggered (received email & sms). PIR sensors will be installed indoor too, including the attic in case the first line of defend breached. 2. Automation: Since the alarm is connected to Vera Edge, PIR from the alarm can be used to automate the switching on or off the lighting during the alarm disarmed/armed stay mode. (eg: walk to kitchen, movement detected, switch light on. After no motion of period of time, switch off light to save energy.) Another thing I plan to get is the z-wave smoke detector so I will be notified when something is burning in the house. Not sure if there is smoke detector + air quality monitor that include detection of gas leakage, if there is such product is even better can alert when gas leak from kitchen. Besides the above, normal stuff like lighting switch and some wall plug switch will be z-wave enabled too. Zwave IR remote is a nice touch up to control gadget that is IR controlled too. As for the lock, I will use the traditional lock. Because I'm kind of a paranoid just in case the system is being hacked or breached Therefore, any remotely accessed content such as IP cam feed will be tunnel through VPN from remote to home. No port will open/forward, just the VPN. Guest WiFi will be VLAN separated so visitor will not have direct contact with the system.All the above will be DIY including the alarm because need to use compatible alarm system but still need to figure out where to get all the components |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 27 2015, 09:43 AM) Can you maintain it ? In terms of? |
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QUOTE(ywkwy @ Jun 27 2015, 12:04 PM) In terms of? After some yrs, thing get bad and spoil. Can you maintain it? |
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Jun 28 2015, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 28 2015, 10:14 AM) After some yrs, thing get bad and spoil. Can you maintain it? Should be ok since I'm going to DIY the whole system where I know how the system works. The part which I'm not sure whether I should DIY is laying of the network cable which I believe is 1 time job unless wanted to change network cable after some years. Either the ugly way of putting into cable casing without laying in the wall or hire someone to lay PVC pipe and wiring in the wall or should I DIY the wall hacking as well Anyone here have experience hacking the wall and lay PVC pipe for wiring? Is it hard? |
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QUOTE(ywkwy @ Jun 28 2015, 05:47 PM) Should be ok since I'm going to DIY the whole system where I know how the system works. The part which I'm not sure whether I should DIY is laying of the network cable which I believe is 1 time job unless wanted to change network cable after some years. Either the ugly way of putting into cable casing without laying in the wall or hire someone to lay PVC pipe and wiring in the wall or should I DIY the wall hacking as well You need some tools to do it.Anyone here have experience hacking the wall and lay PVC pipe for wiring? Is it hard? Grinder to cut the chases at wall. Mixer for skim coat mixing if your wall is skim coated. Then you need to do some wet works such as patching of chases. |
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QUOTE(ywkwy @ Jun 28 2015, 05:47 PM) Should be ok since I'm going to DIY the whole system where I know how the system works. The part which I'm not sure whether I should DIY is laying of the network cable which I believe is 1 time job unless wanted to change network cable after some years. Either the ugly way of putting into cable casing without laying in the wall or hire someone to lay PVC pipe and wiring in the wall or should I DIY the wall hacking as well Cables, is better to have it in a conduit, this mean you need a bigger "drain" in the wall to put in the cables. Anyone here have experience hacking the wall and lay PVC pipe for wiring? Is it hard? Diamond cutter + chisel drill will make your life much much easier. Hacking on the wall even on the thin layer of plastering and red brick is not easy without the two items. And Do make sure you wet the wall. It will be very dusty too. Sealing the drain you, if its deep and big better get cement + fine sand. If small area you can use putty filler. And you have to wait till it dry for few days, some crack may appear again and you need to apply putty to seal it. <Most Important: Don't cut the pipes or wires already implanted in the wall.> I am also converting some part of my house to smart too, using Arduino, and its interfaces are much fun. Programming are using C. Below my prototype to switch on light during night when someone are around.  This post has been edited by weikee: Jun 29 2015, 09:40 AM |
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QUOTE(ywkwy @ Jun 26 2015, 04:42 PM) I'm planning to implement home automation using z-wave protocol, probably using vera edge as the controller. Not much device using Malaysia Z-wave frequency, so probably using EU frequency. What I plan to do: I suggest you use something more readily available here for home automation.1. security: integrate with NAS, IP camera and Alarm system. Compatibility is important for the communications of the devices. Thus, I'm getting Asustor NAS and Hikvision IP camera(with motion detect, alarm IO and audio IO) which is compatible with the Asustor ADM. Asustor will send email and SMS(need subscription) once motion detected from IP camera. eg: motion detected on the window area (before someone go near the window even before he touch the window). Alarm IO of the IP camera will connect the Z-wave binary sensor which connected to the Vera Edge. Then, Vera Edge trigger the outdoor flood light to deter the potential burglar. In second stage when he insist to break in from the window, alarm came in when trigger the sensor on the window. Of course all these will be under monitor remotely, looking through ip camera from mobile phone once the first stage triggered (received email & sms). PIR sensors will be installed indoor too, including the attic in case the first line of defend breached. 2. Automation: Since the alarm is connected to Vera Edge, PIR from the alarm can be used to automate the switching on or off the lighting during the alarm disarmed/armed stay mode. (eg: walk to kitchen, movement detected, switch light on. After no motion of period of time, switch off light to save energy.) Another thing I plan to get is the z-wave smoke detector so I will be notified when something is burning in the house. Not sure if there is smoke detector + air quality monitor that include detection of gas leakage, if there is such product is even better can alert when gas leak from kitchen. Besides the above, normal stuff like lighting switch and some wall plug switch will be z-wave enabled too. Zwave IR remote is a nice touch up to control gadget that is IR controlled too. As for the lock, I will use the traditional lock. Because I'm kind of a paranoid just in case the system is being hacked or breached Therefore, any remotely accessed content such as IP cam feed will be tunnel through VPN from remote to home. No port will open/forward, just the VPN. Guest WiFi will be VLAN separated so visitor will not have direct contact with the system.All the above will be DIY including the alarm because need to use compatible alarm system but still need to figure out where to get all the components You can use Orvibo and it allied with Zigbee technology. Many device can be bought here from http://www.m3shoppe.my/goods/goods_toDetai...tml?goodId=2903 and from other local suppliers also. The program to control is freely available on Google Play. If you are programmer as well, there is website on reverse engineering the control software to make it less proprietary https://stikonas.eu/wordpress/2015/02/24/re...ibo-s20-socket/ |
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Hmmm, any curtain controllers that are controllable from the phone app?
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QUOTE(van_dyke @ Jun 29 2015, 11:13 AM) Hmmm, any curtain controllers that are controllable from the phone app? Those with IR should be able to control by handphone. |
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Any products/company in malaysia that carries this?
QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jun 30 2015, 10:07 AM) Those with IR should be able to control by handphone. |
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QUOTE(van_dyke @ Jun 30 2015, 10:26 AM) Any products/company in malaysia that carries this? Just check with curtain contractor, tell them you want motorise with IR. |
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Stay turn for the new SmartHome product complete with wireless Alarm and wireless IP Camera. Best fit for all type of houses without laying of cable.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 29 2015, 09:45 AM) I suggest you use something more readily available here for home automation. Since there are plenty of different brand of wireless Smart Home system in the market such as Orvibo, LifeSmart, Broadlink and etc. Which brand is the most popular, reliable, more functioning and future expansion?You can use Orvibo and it allied with Zigbee technology. Many device can be bought here from http://www.m3shoppe.my/goods/goods_toDetai...tml?goodId=2903 and from other local suppliers also. The program to control is freely available on Google Play. If you are programmer as well, there is website on reverse engineering the control software to make it less proprietary https://stikonas.eu/wordpress/2015/02/24/re...ibo-s20-socket/ |
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QUOTE(N73 @ Sep 3 2015, 07:29 PM) Since there are plenty of different brand of wireless Smart Home system in the market such as Orvibo, LifeSmart, Broadlink and etc. Which brand is the most popular, reliable, more functioning and future expansion? I dunno which is more popular. Hard to predict what will happen. Just like the Betamax and VHS tape. Even though the Betamax was small and more compact and gave same recording length, it was VHS that prevailed.As long as it is using standard technology, I would say it is good already. It means anyone can make the product, just like USB. The Orvibo is using Zigbee, while LifeSmart and Broadlink is using WiFi. So, all on standard platform. Maybe the control signal is different from one brand to another just like TV remote control. All use IR but Sony remote control cannot be used on Panasonic I guess just go for brand that is easily available in Malaysia  |
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is Samsung SmartThing started selling in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(commtrader @ Sep 16 2015, 08:52 AM) is Samsung SmartThing started selling in Malaysia? Smarthing is using Z-wave wireless protocol, different country have different Z-wave frequency, US is 908.42 Mhz, where Malaysia approved z-wave frequency is 868.1 Mhz, (SKMM WTS SRD/EN 300 220). So you would hardly get z-wave product which is comply to Malaysia Standard.Or anybody bought from US/UK, can you use it in Malaysia? http://www.smartthings.com/ |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 29 2015, 09:39 AM) Cables, is better to have it in a conduit, this mean you need a bigger "drain" in the wall to put in the cables. wei, your arduino smart home project how? Still learning stage?Diamond cutter + chisel drill will make your life much much easier. Hacking on the wall even on the thin layer of plastering and red brick is not easy without the two items. And Do make sure you wet the wall. It will be very dusty too. Sealing the drain you, if its deep and big better get cement + fine sand. If small area you can use putty filler. And you have to wait till it dry for few days, some crack may appear again and you need to apply putty to seal it. <Most Important: Don't cut the pipes or wires already implanted in the wall.> I am also converting some part of my house to smart too, using Arduino, and its interfaces are much fun. Programming are using C. Below my prototype to switch on light during night when someone are around. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 16 2015, 12:04 PM) wei, your arduino smart home project how? Still learning stage? Hold for a while, got other project to do. I purchased some ATTiny, very small and good for such project but this ATTiny I need to declare because it can use for military or terrorist :0 |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 16 2015, 12:25 PM) Hold for a while, got other project to do. I purchased some ATTiny, very small and good for such project but this ATTiny I need to declare because it can use for military or terrorist :0 I m looking for some basic arduino class or basic learning. Look like don't have here. Rasberry got class nearby my home. But I see arduino are more famous and more accessory. |
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QUOTE(Pucca&Garu @ Sep 16 2015, 11:49 AM) Smarthing is using Z-wave wireless protocol, different country have different Z-wave frequency, US is 908.42 Mhz, where Malaysia approved z-wave frequency is 868.1 Mhz, (SKMM WTS SRD/EN 300 220). So you would hardly get z-wave product which is comply to Malaysia Standard. Hello, so samsung will roll out this product in Malaysia soon?Any news? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 16 2015, 12:42 PM) I m looking for some basic arduino class or basic learning. Look like don't have here. Rasberry got class nearby my home. But I see arduino are more famous and more accessory. Arduino got more add-on (shields) and sensors, it use 5v for most interface sensors. You will usually use C to write the program/logic. For raspberry, the interface are limited but getting more, but usually more expensive. Also note the voltage is 3.3v. There are ways to use arduino sensors in pi, and vice versa. Pi is easier to connect into network and internet. Usually use pyton for programing. I have both, currently focus on arduino first. |
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Got many diy website and eBook you can get to learn arduino and pi. Is a big community outside.
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QUOTE(commtrader @ Sep 16 2015, 02:41 PM) Hello, so samsung will roll out this product in Malaysia soon? I dont think samsung will launch this product in Malaysia in near future. As most of the "things" accessories by other manufacturers does not exist in Malaysia for their z-wave products.Any news? |
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QUOTE(Pucca&Garu @ Sep 16 2015, 05:52 PM) I dont think samsung will launch this product in Malaysia in near future. As most of the "things" accessories by other manufacturers does not exist in Malaysia for their z-wave products. Wow you're so knowledgeble.So do you think what is currently available in malaysia that is similar to SmartThings? Thanks for advice. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 16 2015, 03:39 PM) Arduino got more add-on (shields) and sensors, it use 5v for most interface sensors. You will usually use C to write the program/logic. Just order a Arduino uno r3 kits set. For raspberry, the interface are limited but getting more, but usually more expensive. Also note the voltage is 3.3v. There are ways to use arduino sensors in pi, and vice versa. Pi is easier to connect into network and internet. Usually use pyton for programing. I have both, currently focus on arduino first. Just learn the mainboard hardware version and how many type, I also already  It branch out so many type.I m worry the prg side as I totally no idea. I dilemma of choosing with 1 to learn. Raspberry or arduino. Raspberry less accessory and community on the net. But I can learn from class with also near my home. I see the kids also can prg the raspberry when I visit the class. Wonder the teacher will teach oldman like me.  Arduino have many support and accessory in the net. Cheap also. But local short of community and learning class. Can't find any group also. |
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Sep 17 2015, 03:21 AM
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Hi guys what you guys think of Samsung Intercom?
this one : http://www.samsungdigitallife.com/SHT-7610.php the features are : 10.1" color digital LCD Screen Slim & minimal flush mounting type Door answering & monitoring Door release Home control (lighting, gas valve, air conditioner, etc.) System integration with CCTV Security (burglar, fire, gas leakage, etc.) Intercommunication (guard office, households) Save the visitor's image Multi language support (English, Chinese, Taiwanese, Russian) planning to get this one ^^ |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 16 2015, 08:23 PM) Just order a Arduino uno r3 kits set. Welcome to Arduino Just learn the mainboard hardware version and how many type, I also already It branch out so many type.I m worry the prg side as I totally no idea. I dilemma of choosing with 1 to learn. Raspberry or arduino. Raspberry less accessory and community on the net. But I can learn from class with also near my home. I see the kids also can prg the raspberry when I visit the class. Wonder the teacher will teach oldman like me. Arduino have many support and accessory in the net. Cheap also. But local short of community and learning class. Can't find any group also. Lots of "how to" on the net. No need worry about programming lah. C is a very basic language, no Object oriented that complicated things. |
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Oct 27 2015, 09:49 AM
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 LifeSmart Showroom in Empire Soho Subang. Welcome to experience the 'smart home' here 
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QUOTE(Pucca&Garu @ Jul 2 2015, 01:03 AM) Stay turn for the new SmartHome product complete with wireless Alarm and wireless IP Camera. Best fit for all type of houses without laying of cable. can buy the equipment per parts?
or only comes in package? QUOTE(N73 @ Sep 3 2015, 07:29 PM) Since there are plenty of different brand of wireless Smart Home system in the market such as Orvibo, LifeSmart, Broadlink and etc. Which brand is the most popular, reliable, more functioning and future expansion? my choice would be 1 ring to rule them all..eh, 1 app to rule them all.. broadlink - can control IR stuff and lights only orvibo - not sure need to google lifesmart - looks good and future expansion.. QUOTE(commtrader @ Sep 16 2015, 08:52 AM) is Samsung SmartThing started selling in Malaysia? yes! http://www.samsungdigitallife.com/Or anybody bought from US/UK, can you use it in Malaysia? http://www.smartthings.com/ but its quite pricey.. QUOTE(Pucca&Garu @ Oct 27 2015, 09:49 AM) LifeSmart Showroom in Empire Soho Subang. Welcome to experience the 'smart home' here
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Recently I bought few home automation "things" from US and China, having fun with it for a week, and I felt it is pretty powerful and can do almost any automation that you want
Things that I bought are Samsung Smartthings hub V2 - z-wave and zigbee controller, it is open platform, compatible with many z-wave and zigbee devices, even the device is not in the support list, you can add custom device handlers to manage it. there are many developers out there to publish 3rd party z-wave device handlers, such as custom yamaha receiver device handler, custom smartapps integration to kodi to control kudled color bulb. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kudled Color bulb (Taobao) - Zigbee color bulb, similar to Philips Hue, it is much much cheaper, only one quarter of Philips Hue price! thanks for the smartthings community, I'm able to pair this with smartthings hub directly and able to control the bulb from smartthings app » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Monoprice z-wave in wall on/off switch - the cheaper z-wave on/off switch, you can use it as a relay or light switch, I use it as light switch and also a relay act as momentary switch to open/close autogate, the momentary switch connected to my autogate panel, the blue and red wires are connected to a z-wave switch relay, so I wired these two to the autogate door trigger, and it works perfectly, I set up a routine that when I'm arriving home, the gate will automatically open, and turn on the kudled lights installed at the gate. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « GoControl Z-wave motion sensor and door/windows sensor - these security things can be used for wireless alarm, I use it for my second alarm system, the door sensor has external input that I connect it to the magnet contact installed on the autogate, this enables to monitor the autogate status to see whether or not it is close (I often forgot to close it). With the motion sensor installed, it is able to detect any intruder and take actions such as turn on all Kudled lights and set color to RED, since I have two Kudled color bulbs installed as the gate light, it is easier for outsider to notice my house is in the alarm state! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Below is the low quality video to demonstrate the smartthings integration with kudled color bulb » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Alarm System + CCTV nowadays something essential for our home.
Now we have a 4 in 1 system with Alarm + CCTV (Integrate HIKVISION camera)+ SmartHome Control + Background Music Player have a quick look! 
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 26 2016, 12:21 AM) Recently I bought few home automation "things" from US and China, having fun with it for a week, and I felt it is pretty powerful and can do almost any automation that you want nice! Things that I bought are Samsung Smartthings hub V2 - z-wave and zigbee controller, it is open platform, compatible with many z-wave and zigbee devices, even the device is not in the support list, you can add custom device handlers to manage it. there are many developers out there to publish 3rd party z-wave device handlers, such as custom yamaha receiver device handler, custom smartapps integration to kodi to control kudled color bulb. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kudled Color bulb (Taobao) - Zigbee color bulb, similar to Philips Hue, it is much much cheaper, only one quarter of Philips Hue price! thanks for the smartthings community, I'm able to pair this with smartthings hub directly and able to control the bulb from smartthings app » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Monoprice z-wave in wall on/off switch - the cheaper z-wave on/off switch, you can use it as a relay or light switch, I use it as light switch and also a relay act as momentary switch to open/close autogate, the momentary switch connected to my autogate panel, the blue and red wires are connected to a z-wave switch relay, so I wired these two to the autogate door trigger, and it works perfectly, I set up a routine that when I'm arriving home, the gate will automatically open, and turn on the kudled lights installed at the gate. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « GoControl Z-wave motion sensor and door/windows sensor - these security things can be used for wireless alarm, I use it for my second alarm system, the door sensor has external input that I connect it to the magnet contact installed on the autogate, this enables to monitor the autogate status to see whether or not it is close (I often forgot to close it). With the motion sensor installed, it is able to detect any intruder and take actions such as turn on all Kudled lights and set color to RED, since I have two Kudled color bulbs installed as the gate light, it is easier for outsider to notice my house is in the alarm state! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Below is the low quality video to demonstrate the smartthings integration with kudled color bulb » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  |
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QUOTE(keimieko @ Sep 17 2015, 03:21 AM) Hi guys what you guys think of Samsung Intercom? Nice one.. What's the price? Bought already?this one : http://www.samsungdigitallife.com/SHT-7610.php the features are : 10.1" color digital LCD Screen Slim & minimal flush mounting type Door answering & monitoring Door release Home control (lighting, gas valve, air conditioner, etc.) System integration with CCTV Security (burglar, fire, gas leakage, etc.) Intercommunication (guard office, households) Save the visitor's image Multi language support (English, Chinese, Taiwanese, Russian) planning to get this one ^^ |
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My yet to complete Z-wave home automation
I'm using the Honeywell Lynx 5100 with US Zwave frequency, schlage door lock and of course sensors/siren from honeywell. the control panel link to my android box app. I control the android box using teamviewer. All DIY, no ploblemo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « to disarm/unlock I can either use the keyfob, the Honeywell apps (within home wifi range) or controlled via teamviewer to my android box (away from my home). other method, I need to keyin the schlage lock password and have a 45 seconds to disarm the alarm at the honeywell panel with password. Yes for the ease of use and user friendly I find it vera or the samsung smarthome easier to use. But if you love the control panel/hub with a display and the flexibility to custom, I could say the Honeywell is the best. The back panel has an additional input/ouput trigger I/O connection for further custom circuit. It has a built in battery backup and RJ11 phone socket to make a phone call to the programmed number on any alarm/triggered event. The lastest model Tuxedo has a built server, easier to remote monitoring with some DDNS This post has been edited by eddyann: Apr 6 2016, 01:41 PM |
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Apr 6 2016, 01:20 PM) My yet to complete Z-wave home automation I have been using Smartthings hub for few months, it supports wide range of z-wave and zigbee devices, and is customizable, the system is opensource, so you can get update very frequent, drawback is it is not really reliable, sometimes there are too many changes especially if you apply some third party smartapps, things can go haywire .I'm using the Honeywell Lynx 5100 with US Zwave frequency, schlage door lock and of course sensors/siren from honeywell. the control panel link to my android box app. I control the android box using teamviewer. All DIY, no ploblemo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « to disarm/unlock I can either use the keyfob, the Honeywell apps (within home wifi range) or controlled via teamviewer to my android box (away from my home). other method, I need to keyin the schlage lock password and have a 45 seconds to disarm the alarm at the honeywell panel with password. Yes for the ease of use and user friendly I find it vera or the samsung smarthome easier to use. But if you love the control panel/hub with a display and the flexibility to custom, I could say the Honeywell is the best. The back panel has an additional input/ouput trigger I/O connection for further custom circuit. It has a built in battery backup and RJ11 phone socket to make a phone call to the programmed number on any alarm/triggered event. The lastest model Tuxedo has a built server, easier to remote monitoring with some DDNS |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Apr 7 2016, 01:05 AM) I have been using Smartthings hub for few months, it supports wide range of z-wave and zigbee devices, and is customizable, the system is opensource, so you can get update very frequent, drawback is it is not really reliable, sometimes there are too many changes especially if you apply some third party smartapps, things can go haywire . can you share the review of this Monoprice z-wave in wall on/off switch? Yes I could agree this is the cheapest, but how about the reliability and stability? can recognize easily by the hub/controller? I'm looking for one |
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Apr 7 2016, 08:46 AM) can you share the review of this Monoprice z-wave in wall on/off switch? Yes I could agree this is the cheapest, but how about the reliability and stability? can recognize easily by the hub/controller? I'm looking for one Monowall z-wave in wall on/off switch is pretty good, it is reliable, easily pair with smartthings, it is actually a relay, so I use it to open/close my autogate. now my autogate can automatically open once my car is arriving home There is a trick to use the Monowall z-wave, you must go through the manual and follow the steps to configure the switch, or it will not work as expected. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Apr 7 2016, 10:27 PM) Monowall z-wave in wall on/off switch is pretty good, it is reliable, easily pair with smartthings, it is actually a relay, so I use it to open/close my autogate. now my autogate can automatically open once my car is arriving home How the autogate can automatically open once your car is arriving home ? There is a trick to use the Monowall z-wave, you must go through the manual and follow the steps to configure the switch, or it will not work as expected. It can sense your car coming far away? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 8 2016, 09:02 AM) How the autogate can automatically open once your car is arriving home ? I guess its smth like thisIt can sense your car coming far away? https://shop.smartthings.com/#!/product...tsense-presence or maybe other type or device |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Apr 7 2016, 10:27 PM) Monowall z-wave in wall on/off switch is pretty good, it is reliable, easily pair with smartthings, it is actually a relay, so I use it to open/close my autogate. now my autogate can automatically open once my car is arriving home But a bit unsafe to have this feature ler. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 8 2016, 09:02 AM) How the autogate can automatically open once your car is arriving home ? Smartthing has android and IOS app, this app acts as presence sensor, when you car is entering your house using geo fence, it will trigger the z-wave relay to open autogate.It can sense your car coming far away? My geo fence is about 200 meters radius from my house, so the autogate will open when my car is entering 200 meters radius. the presence not only can trigger autogate, it also turn on lights, disable alarm, even unlock your door (but I don't have z-wave lock, I scare it is not reliable and also afraid smartthing is hacked) |
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Apr 24 2016, 06:54 AM
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Hi guys,
I have Cat6 Lan cables laying in my storeroom , about 140 meters long. Let me know if you guys are interested in getting some for your house renovation. I use it to lay cable to everyroom and to living room as well. https://carousell.com/p/43042219 Norman |
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any idea where can i get the honeywell lynx at decent price over here, rather than having it bought from amazon, ebay?
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Jun 4 2016, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 26 2016, 12:21 AM) Recently I bought few home automation "things" from US and China, having fun with it for a week, and I felt it is pretty powerful and can do almost any automation that you want Hi bro, can share Kudled Color bulb link?Things that I bought are Samsung Smartthings hub V2 - z-wave and zigbee controller, it is open platform, compatible with many z-wave and zigbee devices, even the device is not in the support list, you can add custom device handlers to manage it. there are many developers out there to publish 3rd party z-wave device handlers, such as custom yamaha receiver device handler, custom smartapps integration to kodi to control kudled color bulb. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kudled Color bulb (Taobao) - Zigbee color bulb, similar to Philips Hue, it is much much cheaper, only one quarter of Philips Hue price! thanks for the smartthings community, I'm able to pair this with smartthings hub directly and able to control the bulb from smartthings app » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Monoprice z-wave in wall on/off switch - the cheaper z-wave on/off switch, you can use it as a relay or light switch, I use it as light switch and also a relay act as momentary switch to open/close autogate, the momentary switch connected to my autogate panel, the blue and red wires are connected to a z-wave switch relay, so I wired these two to the autogate door trigger, and it works perfectly, I set up a routine that when I'm arriving home, the gate will automatically open, and turn on the kudled lights installed at the gate. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « GoControl Z-wave motion sensor and door/windows sensor - these security things can be used for wireless alarm, I use it for my second alarm system, the door sensor has external input that I connect it to the magnet contact installed on the autogate, this enables to monitor the autogate status to see whether or not it is close (I often forgot to close it). With the motion sensor installed, it is able to detect any intruder and take actions such as turn on all Kudled lights and set color to RED, since I have two Kudled color bulbs installed as the gate light, it is easier for outsider to notice my house is in the alarm state! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Below is the low quality video to demonstrate the smartthings integration with kudled color bulb » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Jun 4 2016, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ Jun 4 2016, 07:32 PM) Hi bro, can share Kudled Color bulb link? I don't recommend to buy, it has quality issue, one of the bulbs already not working, another bulb lost red color, and the worst thing, it lost connection to my smartthings hub after the hub disconnect from internet. |
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Jun 5 2016, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 4 2016, 08:28 PM) I don't recommend to buy, it has quality issue, one of the bulbs already not working, another bulb lost red color, and the worst thing, it lost connection to my smartthings hub after the hub disconnect from internet. Any good quality brand suggest?or better use normal light for longer lifetime?Actually I just need pair of warm colour(4k?) light with remote.If cant found good quality with reasonable price I think will just pull a switch beside my bed. Thx for the advice. |
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Jun 5 2016, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(lawrencehl @ Jun 5 2016, 08:50 AM) Any good quality brand suggest?or better use normal light for longer lifetime? If you wanted branded and good quality bulbs, philips hue and osram lightify, but they cost a bomb >RM200 per bulb and need hub controller!Actually I just need pair of warm colour(4k?) light with remote.If cant found good quality with reasonable price I think will just pull a switch beside my bed. Thx for the advice. or you can try xiaomi yeelight, https://world.tmall.com/item/528834492886.h...0714.0.0.3KV7VX http://xiaomi-mi.com/mi-lighting/xiaomi-ye...art-light-bulb/ |
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Jun 5 2016, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 5 2016, 11:31 AM) If you wanted branded and good quality bulbs, philips hue and osram lightify, but they cost a bomb >RM200 per bulb and need hub controller! I think using yee led +mi wireless on/off switch is that best solution for me and my wallet.or you can try xiaomi yeelight, https://world.tmall.com/item/528834492886.h...0714.0.0.3KV7VX http://xiaomi-mi.com/mi-lighting/xiaomi-ye...art-light-bulb/ |
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QUOTE(babyk @ Apr 18 2015, 01:17 AM) Anyone here using smart home automation? Hei! Just happened come through this post. Although is old post. But I have to say... Just ignore those has limited knowledge in IT and not into digital things but likes to watch digital created films, ironman, star track, Harry Potter... Haha. Control your aircond and lights from smart phone, lightings from smart phone and smoke detector sends signals to smart phone and etc. Light - Smart control CAN DO some much more then just On or Off the light. Can those people change their light build colour? No. U can't. Haha. I can use phone change my lightbulk colour anytime when change mood from reading to watch Tv, after dinner then drink at balcony. Change or dim the colour to Yellow, blue, white, rainbow Just to match the mood. And also a basic function - auto lights on timer. When Long go or before night fall. Plugs - if they think smart control only Can do lighting then Wrong again. You can control power on or off on switch. Don't worry forget to turn off the iron or don't need to wait or heat up. Can on before u go to downstairs. Also I set everyday 8am my coffee machine auto boil. My Aircon is on, before I arrived home. Audio - play music on my ceiling speaker from phone. I don't have to turn on my computer before I go shower or shit. phone always follow us. Come back home from work, Just put the phone on table and music auto play. People... Pls don't ask Why? Still need touch the screen? NO, there is a chips call NFC. (Apple call Apple Pay) the function can do so many things. Like our IC can also use like touchNgo, like a USB pen drive in flat paper shape. Just use app to store function in the sticker then stick in car or meeting room or home. When a phone put on top, it wil tells the phone auto silent mode. Or auto turn to speaker mode in car. Or auto show map traffic. Or auto play music. Doorlock - can't believe still have people say. Worry no battery. Want to ask them, ur phone no battery then how ah? Worry ur car no battery then don't drive? Is not something to worry. Because it alway gives you warning before it totally gone. Otherwise do you think Hotel still use key?! I also using the Samsung doorlock you have . I don't worry my family forget to bring key. (For sure everyone kena this before) because it can use password to key in. Or, call anyone in the family, we can unlock the door for him. Especially new year time. My aunt arrive time always different from promised time. So always open the door for them first. And some friend come to party also. (True-I can work with it for remote control. But I have ODC, need everything same brand or same colour. So I still planing to get a smarthing hub. Malaysia not sure can use or not if want to remote control, just worry IP block , although shouldn't be a problem it using Amazon's gate.) TV - nothing to say. May be those non-technology dude still using USB plug in Hardisk watch something. I don't understand why they have a smart phone, smart LED tv But doing those non-smart action? Perhaps they only "half-smart" or lazy to understand what they can do more. Like driving a F1 car in 40kmhz road. Wasted. They can use phone mirror play things to the tv. Or they can connect the tv to a network drive. I can use phone click what things I want to download, let the network drive download when I go work and no one is home. When I come back. I can sit and play the video on tv. This post has been edited by josqi: Jul 31 2016, 10:43 AM |
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Wow really impressive automation you guys are doing here. Forgive me for being a giant noob...
May I know if most ppl DIY or is there a contractor who specializes in all these including doing plaster ceiling, normal reno works. Which brand of ceiling speaker do you recommend? What system & NFC chip are you using to manage it? I want to do most of what you have done for my new home, hopefully can get some tips from you. Thanks in advance josqi!!! QUOTE(josqi @ Jul 31 2016, 10:34 AM) Hei! Just happened come through this post. Although is old post. But I have to say... Just ignore those has limited knowledge in IT and not into digital things but likes to watch digital created films, ironman, star track, Harry Potter... Haha. Light - Smart control CAN DO some much more then just On or Off the light. Can those people change their light build colour? No. U can't. Haha. I can use phone change my lightbulk colour anytime when change mood from reading to watch Tv, after dinner then drink at balcony. Change or dim the colour to Yellow, blue, white, rainbow Just to match the mood. And also a basic function - auto lights on timer. When Long go or before night fall. Plugs - if they think smart control only Can do lighting then Wrong again. You can control power on or off on switch. Don't worry forget to turn off the iron or don't need to wait or heat up. Can on before u go to downstairs. Also I set everyday 8am my coffee machine auto boil. My Aircon is on, before I arrived home. Audio - play music on my ceiling speaker from phone. I don't have to turn on my computer before I go shower or shit. phone always follow us. Come back home from work, Just put the phone on table and music auto play. People... Pls don't ask Why? Still need touch the screen? NO, there is a chips call NFC. (Apple call Apple Pay) the function can do so many things. Like our IC can also use like touchNgo, like a USB pen drive in flat paper shape. Just use app to store function in the sticker then stick in car or meeting room or home. When a phone put on top, it wil tells the phone auto silent mode. Or auto turn to speaker mode in car. Or auto show map traffic. Or auto play music. Doorlock - can't believe still have people say. Worry no battery. Want to ask them, ur phone no battery then how ah? Worry ur car no battery then don't drive? Is not something to worry. Because it alway gives you warning before it totally gone. Otherwise do you think Hotel still use key?! I also using the Samsung doorlock you have . I don't worry my family forget to bring key. (For sure everyone kena this before) because it can use password to key in. Or, call anyone in the family, we can unlock the door for him. Especially new year time. My aunt arrive time always different from promised time. So always open the door for them first. And some friend come to party also. (True-I can work with it for remote control. But I have ODC, need everything same brand or same colour. So I still planing to get a smarthing hub. Malaysia not sure can use or not if want to remote control, just worry IP block , although shouldn't be a problem it using Amazon's gate.) TV - nothing to say. May be those non-technology dude still using USB plug in Hardisk watch something. I don't understand why they have a smart phone, smart LED tv But doing those non-smart action? Perhaps they only "half-smart" or lazy to understand what they can do more. Like driving a F1 car in 40kmhz road. Wasted. They can use phone mirror play things to the tv. Or they can connect the tv to a network drive. I can use phone click what things I want to download, let the network drive download when I go work and no one is home. When I come back. I can sit and play the video on tv. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 26 2016, 12:21 AM) Recently I bought few home automation "things" from US and China, having fun with it for a week, and I felt it is pretty powerful and can do almost any automation that you want Hey Kiding,Things that I bought are Samsung Smartthings hub V2 - z-wave and zigbee controller, it is open platform, compatible with many z-wave and zigbee devices, even the device is not in the support list, you can add custom device handlers to manage it. there are many developers out there to publish 3rd party z-wave device handlers, such as custom yamaha receiver device handler, custom smartapps integration to kodi to control kudled color bulb. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kudled Color bulb (Taobao) - Zigbee color bulb, similar to Philips Hue, it is much much cheaper, only one quarter of Philips Hue price! thanks for the smartthings community, I'm able to pair this with smartthings hub directly and able to control the bulb from smartthings app » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Monoprice z-wave in wall on/off switch - the cheaper z-wave on/off switch, you can use it as a relay or light switch, I use it as light switch and also a relay act as momentary switch to open/close autogate, the momentary switch connected to my autogate panel, the blue and red wires are connected to a z-wave switch relay, so I wired these two to the autogate door trigger, and it works perfectly, I set up a routine that when I'm arriving home, the gate will automatically open, and turn on the kudled lights installed at the gate. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « GoControl Z-wave motion sensor and door/windows sensor - these security things can be used for wireless alarm, I use it for my second alarm system, the door sensor has external input that I connect it to the magnet contact installed on the autogate, this enables to monitor the autogate status to see whether or not it is close (I often forgot to close it). With the motion sensor installed, it is able to detect any intruder and take actions such as turn on all Kudled lights and set color to RED, since I have two Kudled color bulbs installed as the gate light, it is easier for outsider to notice my house is in the alarm state! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Below is the low quality video to demonstrate the smartthings integration with kudled color bulb » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I've been reading your post around the forum and see that you have used home automation products from US. I am currently planning to move back to MY from US and would like to bring back some HA products. I was wondering do you know if the Philips Hue light bulbs bought from US would work in 220v? And are there any problems using the sensors? Thanks! |
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QUOTE(0806A68032 @ Sep 17 2016, 05:53 AM) Hey Kiding, I don't think Philips Hue sold in US can be used in Malaysia as it is 110V, if you plug in to 220V socket, it could burst!I've been reading your post around the forum and see that you have used home automation products from US. I am currently planning to move back to MY from US and would like to bring back some HA products. I was wondering do you know if the Philips Hue light bulbs bought from US would work in 220v? And are there any problems using the sensors? Thanks! You can bring back those battery powered smartthings compatible z-wave or zigbee sensors, it will work in Malaysia. |
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Sep 18 2016, 08:44 AM
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Digital lock is the only one which will come in handy. Switches, etc....unless u r really that lazy to move
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Sep 20 2016, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Sep 17 2016, 01:15 PM) I don't think Philips Hue sold in US can be used in Malaysia as it is 110V, if you plug in to 220V socket, it could burst! Thanks for the reply! Yeah the bulbs are rated 110v, but i've read alot of reviews saying it works in 220V lol.You can bring back those battery powered smartthings compatible z-wave or zigbee sensors, it will work in Malaysia. How about connected door locks and ring doorbell? Both are battery powered, so i guess they should work too? |
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ok at first i wasnt too warm to this home automation thing mainly because its too darn expensive just to turn on/off a light or two.
but lately there are some interesting products popping out that makes me reconsider. now apple is adding Homekit with Siri voice control to certain devices that is compatible with Homekit. Good example is the Philips Hue. Still it cost about Rm1k just for a three bulb starter pack. then Amazon is coming out with the second gen Amazon Echo Dot (see video) which is only US$50. Its like a standalone Siri. And it is compatible with many standards. I can add smart plugs from TP-Link Smartplug and D-link Smartplug (about Rm150 each). Now if I can find a hub/control for my ceiling lights.....that would complete the setup that I need. I dont need to control temperature (maybe just monitoring), I cant afford to motorize my roller blinds, I dont have an alarm system, I got one IP cam and might add another. I dont need auto make coffee. So basically I just want to control my lights. Thats the biggest thing. Now Im using mechanical timers to turn on/off lights. If the times and date can be set electronically using Smartplugs with an app, that would be great. Can dim as well. Change colors if you got RGB bulbs Any more ideas ozak and weikee? Okay Echo Dot may not work (100%) outside USA or UK. You can still use voice to control your devices but anything to do with location and time/date, it wont work This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 23 2016, 09:01 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 23 2016, 08:49 AM) ok at first i wasnt too warm to this home automation thing mainly because its too darn expensive just to turn on/off a light or two. I still need to sturdy how it going to intergrate into our basic wiring control in the house. but lately there are some interesting products popping out that makes me reconsider. now apple is adding Homekit with Siri voice control to certain devices that is compatible with Homekit. Good example is the Philips Hue. Still it cost about Rm1k just for a three bulb starter pack. then Amazon is coming out with the second gen Amazon Echo Dot (see video) which is only US$50. Its like a standalone Siri. And it is compatible with many standards. I can add smart plugs from TP-Link Smartplug and D-link Smartplug (about Rm150 each). Now if I can find a hub/control for my ceiling lights.....that would complete the setup that I need. I dont need to control temperature (maybe just monitoring), I cant afford to motorize my roller blinds, I dont have an alarm system, I got one IP cam and might add another. I dont need auto make coffee. So basically I just want to control my lights. Thats the biggest thing. Now Im using mechanical timers to turn on/off lights. If the times and date can be set electronically using Smartplugs with an app, that would be great. Can dim as well. Change colors if you got RGB bulbs Any more ideas ozak and weikee? Okay Echo Dot may not work (100%) outside USA or UK. You can still use voice to control your devices but anything to do with location and time/date, it wont work This echo run on wifi. So it is easy to setup. But the device that going to be control is not easy to setup. Specially already in your home. How to going to integrate into it. Not the price that turn me off from buying such call "home automation". What turn off me is, it is not Automation at all. It is just some fancy gadget that make you feel cool. It even can't replace us to switch ON/OFF the light in easy way. (Not this echo la) So what's problem you're facing to turn on/off the light ? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 23 2016, 09:53 AM) I still need to sturdy how it going to intergrate into our basic wiring control in the house. just use the smartplug from TP-Link (got link above)This echo run on wifi. So it is easy to setup. But the device that going to be control is not easy to setup. Specially already in your home. How to going to integrate into it. Not the price that turn me off from buying such call "home automation". What turn off me is, it is not Automation at all. It is just some fancy gadget that make you feel cool. It even can't replace us to switch ON/OFF the light in easy way. (Not this echo la) So what's problem you're facing to turn on/off the light ? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 23 2016, 09:55 AM) just use the smartplug from TP-Link (got link above) Don't tell me you going to rewiring your room/hall light, pull the wire out from the switch, put a 3pin plug and plug into this smartplug and plug into the wall socket ?How many kind of light in your home that run on wall socket ? Table lamp? But I still cannot figure it out what I can do with this smartplug. Than this TP-link and dlink plug doesn't state any power consumption that it run. Later makan my energy more than my light. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 23 2016, 10:13 AM) Don't tell me you going to rewiring your room/hall light, pull the wire out from the switch, put a 3pin plug and plug into this smartplug and plug into the wall socket ? ya just use for table lamps. plug in table lamp into a smartplug but can only control on/off and timer functionHow many kind of light in your home that run on wall socket ? Table lamp? But I still cannot figure it out what I can do with this smartplug. Than this TP-link and dlink plug doesn't state any power consumption that it run. Later makan my energy more than my light. cant dim. for other lights that are hard wired - this i dunno how. need another device |
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Sep 23 2016, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 23 2016, 10:13 AM) Don't tell me you going to rewiring your room/hall light, pull the wire out from the switch, put a 3pin plug and plug into this smartplug and plug into the wall socket ? There are many light wall switches can be installed directly without changing your home electrical wiring. Previously most of the smart switch need neutral wiring. The problem is these product might not support homekitHow many kind of light in your home that run on wall socket ? Table lamp? But I still cannot figure it out what I can do with this smartplug. Than this TP-link and dlink plug doesn't state any power consumption that it run. Later makan my energy more than my light. |
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Sep 23 2016, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 23 2016, 10:20 AM) ya just use for table lamps. plug in table lamp into a smartplug but can only control on/off and timer function ok la. try la. cant dim. for other lights that are hard wired - this i dunno how. need another device Echo + smartplug probably RM300+ ? Have you often use SIRI ? Easy use or not? Actually I m not against Automation or whatever automation. Even you see me like negative post here. I would be weird to myself if I against it. Macam "sot sot day" person. |
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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Sep 23 2016, 10:25 AM) There are many light wall switches can be installed directly without changing your home electrical wiring. Previously most of the smart switch need neutral wiring. The problem is these product might not support homekit So does it need neutral wire or not now?How you going to put a wifi inside the wall switch without the neutral wire? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 23 2016, 10:28 AM) ok la. try la. I use Siri but not for Homekit cause I got nothing home automationEcho + smartplug probably RM300+ ? Have you often use SIRI ? Easy use or not? Actually I m not against Automation or whatever automation. Even you see me like negative post here. I would be weird to myself if I against it. Macam "sot sot day" person. Easy to use, just simply ask Dont worry Im also dont feel anything special about all these home automation thing. Basically just to control the lights. I am using mechanical timers now. If electronic, it can skip turning on my bedroom lights on weekends etc. Right now I set it to 5:30am and it turns on everyday at that time. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 23 2016, 10:37 AM) I use Siri but not for Homekit cause I got nothing home automation Not worry about you. Easy to use, just simply ask Dont worry Im also dont feel anything special about all these home automation thing. Basically just to control the lights. I am using mechanical timers now. If electronic, it can skip turning on my bedroom lights on weekends etc. Right now I set it to 5:30am and it turns on everyday at that time. My job involve automation. And I design it. So I m weird if I against it. "Sot sot day" person. My only automation light is the car porch run on timer. But the timer already spoil for a yrs and still haven't replace it back. Don't feel it necessary. I have 2 more light run on wall socket. But run 7/11. So no need timer or automation. So now you want to turn ON/OFF your bedroom light by timer and best in schedule ON/OFF ? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 23 2016, 08:49 AM) ok at first i wasnt too warm to this home automation thing mainly because its too darn expensive just to turn on/off a light or two. As always, the video make it so easy. And even if it happen you dare to use, even with Tesla got hacked, all because is integration. https://www.rt.com/usa/360172-tesla-vulnera...ty-hack-brakes/ but lately there are some interesting products popping out that makes me reconsider. now apple is adding Homekit with Siri voice control to certain devices that is compatible with Homekit. Good example is the Philips Hue. Still it cost about Rm1k just for a three bulb starter pack. then Amazon is coming out with the second gen Amazon Echo Dot (see video) which is only US$50. Its like a standalone Siri. And it is compatible with many standards. I can add smart plugs from TP-Link Smartplug and D-link Smartplug (about Rm150 each). Now if I can find a hub/control for my ceiling lights.....that would complete the setup that I need. I dont need to control temperature (maybe just monitoring), I cant afford to motorize my roller blinds, I dont have an alarm system, I got one IP cam and might add another. I dont need auto make coffee. So basically I just want to control my lights. Thats the biggest thing. Now Im using mechanical timers to turn on/off lights. If the times and date can be set electronically using Smartplugs with an app, that would be great. Can dim as well. Change colors if you got RGB bulbs Any more ideas ozak and weikee? Okay Echo Dot may not work (100%) outside USA or UK. You can still use voice to control your devices but anything to do with location and time/date, it wont work I am doing this now. http://www.techradar.com/how-to/computing/...tsapp-1315610/2 This post has been edited by weikee: Sep 23 2016, 11:02 AM |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 23 2016, 10:58 AM) Your Pi project like a decade already. Haven't finish ? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 23 2016, 11:01 AM) Your Pi project like a decade already. Haven't finish ? I made a Pi Temperature logger already, is for server room. Now will put in Whatsapp to send notification, and also from whatsapp to send kill switch. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 23 2016, 10:35 AM) So does it need neutral wire or not now? Boss!!! I found a solution liao How you going to put a wifi inside the wall switch without the neutral wire? http://www.vesternet.com/downloads/dl/file...anual_v1_01.pdf This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 23 2016, 05:10 PM |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 23 2016, 10:35 AM) So does it need neutral wire or not now? In market wireless smart switches not refer to wifi switches, mostly RF, must connect to a hub then into the router. This is because wifi switch high power consumption as it always connected.How you going to put a wifi inside the wall switch without the neutral wire? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 23 2016, 04:43 PM) Try lor.But you got to check the depth of our socket back box. Enough space or not. Just recently have this experience with the Schneider rcd socket. Either the new socket no std or the back box. Cause me to modify the back box. Lucky not in the wall. This dimmer maker/designer must be half pass six. Why not just combine the dimmer with the switch with both can be remote. Sell it as a switch dimme. Easy installation and can control both. Definitely consumer won't mind to pay for it. |
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QUOTE(henryj8 @ Sep 23 2016, 09:46 PM) In market wireless smart switches not refer to wifi switches, mostly RF, must connect to a hub then into the router. This is because wifi switch high power consumption as it always connected. One of the thing that I don't like this kind of home automation is power consumption. If you replace all the switch with some socket too, the consumption is freaking high. I do experience before with remote switch install in my bedroom. Cost rm45 for 2 gang. That is back 18yrs ago. Last for about 10yrs. Internal transformer circuit smoke. No need neutral wire. I can't find back the maker/company. The bad is, this RF sometime sot sot. Can't detect even few ft away. Have to reset and reprogram again. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 23 2016, 01:38 PM) I made a Pi Temperature logger already, is for server room. Now will put in Whatsapp to send notification, and also from whatsapp to send kill switch. Sound interesting. I m thinking of this too. Wonder my Arduino can do or not. Now in the mid of expanding my solar system. Some light point will be run on led with DC voltage. All charger and dry cabinet on solar power. I might need some remote monitoring, triggering and controlling. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 24 2016, 10:01 AM) Sound interesting. Arduino more baremetal and less processing power. Will be hard because the whatsapp library are running on python.I m thinking of this too. Wonder my Arduino can do or not. Now in the mid of expanding my solar system. Some light point will be run on led with DC voltage. All charger and dry cabinet on solar power. I might need some remote monitoring, triggering and controlling. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 24 2016, 09:36 AM) Try lor. Another way is using z-wave/zig-bee bulbs if you don't want to modify anything, currently amazon selling Philips hue white around RM60 per bulb (without shipping cost)But you got to check the depth of our socket back box. Enough space or not. Just recently have this experience with the Schneider rcd socket. Either the new socket no std or the back box. Cause me to modify the back box. Lucky not in the wall. This dimmer maker/designer must be half pass six. Why not just combine the dimmer with the switch with both can be remote. Sell it as a switch dimme. Easy installation and can control both. Definitely consumer won't mind to pay for it.QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 24 2016, 09:49 AM) One of the thing that I don't like this kind of home automation is power consumption. Nowadays zigbee/z-wave RF is very power efficient, I have one z-wave power socket to dim light, after installing, I don't see any different in my electricity bill. also z-wave can easily detect 10 meters away device.If you replace all the switch with some socket too, the consumption is freaking high. I do experience before with remote switch install in my bedroom. Cost rm45 for 2 gang. That is back 18yrs ago. Last for about 10yrs. Internal transformer circuit smoke. No need neutral wire. I can't find back the maker/company. The bad is, this RF sometime sot sot. Can't detect even few ft away. Have to reset and reprogram again. This post has been edited by Kiding: Sep 24 2016, 11:47 AM |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Sep 24 2016, 11:46 AM) Nowadays zigbee/z-wave RF is very power efficient, I have one z-wave power socket to dim light, after installing, I don't see any different in my electricity bill. also z-wave can easily detect 10 meters away device. 1 switch consume 2w. 20pcs will be 40w. 24hr running even your light is off. That is like pay for nothing. They should comeout just a main hub. Sleep mode in low power. When require on that light, only than send the signal to that point. Other than that, that point would be in zero watt. That also good to reduce the maintain cost, only hub is power and all the point have no power. I wonder Amazon echo will respond me " Alexa, can you save my bill?" |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 24 2016, 12:36 PM) 1 switch consume 2w. 20pcs will be 40w. 24hr running even your light is off. That is like pay for nothing. Z wave or zigbee RF working in that way. Normal time is standby mode.They should comeout just a main hub. Sleep mode in low power. When require on that light, only than send the signal to that point. Other than that, that point would be in zero watt. That also good to reduce the maintain cost, only hub is power and all the point have no power. I wonder Amazon echo will respond me " Alexa, can you save my bill?" |
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 IKEA is coming out with a smart bulb series called Home Smart II Lighting Collection. Its like Philips Hue or LIFX where you can control them using an app or a remote control. Most important thing is IKEA says it will be very affordable. read more here - http://gizmodo.com/ikeas-working-on-a-supe...home-1707301488 |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 27 2016, 08:55 PM) IKEA is coming out with a smart bulb series called Home Smart II Lighting Collection. Its like Philips Hue or LIFX where you can control them using an app or a remote control. Most important thing is IKEA says it will be very affordable. read more here - http://gizmodo.com/ikeas-working-on-a-supe...home-1707301488 |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 27 2016, 11:00 PM) There already have for the LED bar type or some focus led. But not sure can apps control. I always play with it at the LED light section. The remote require 2AAA battery. What is bar type? Got any links? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 27 2016, 11:08 PM) What is bar type? Got any links? I cannot find in their website. But damansara IKEA have more range in there. The remote is not just 1 type only. You can connect any type on it. I think it got 1 main supply with several led connect to it. So you can connect any led type on it. This post has been edited by ozak: Sep 27 2016, 11:48 PM |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 27 2016, 11:46 PM) I cannot find in their website. E27 bulb?But damansara IKEA have more range in there. The remote is not just 1 type only. You can connect any type on it. I think it got 1 main supply with several led connect to it. So you can connect any led type on it. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 27 2016, 11:46 PM) I cannot find in their website. These?But damansara IKEA have more range in there. The remote is not just 1 type only. You can connect any type on it. I think it got 1 main supply with several led connect to it. So you can connect any led type on it. http://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/categories/series/25006/ http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80288328/ |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 28 2016, 12:07 AM) These? Ya, this is some of the range.http://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/categories/series/25006/ http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80288328/ I got try 1pcs of OMLOPP and 2pcs of MAGLEHULT. Didn't buy the main hub (driver). Just the light. OMLOPP is too bright under the shelve. Need some modify. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 28 2016, 12:07 AM) These? That is the remote. Look like normal remote only.http://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/categories/series/25006/ http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80288328/ This remote look like good enough for you. QUOTE Key features This post has been edited by ozak: Sep 28 2016, 09:14 AM- You can mount the remote control on the wall or under a cabinet. - You can easily dim your lights to 2 levels with ANSLUTA remote control. - You can use ANSLUTA remote control to turn on/off and dim all UTRUSTA and OMLOPP light units connected in a chain simultaneously. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 28 2016, 09:12 AM) That is the remote. Look like normal remote only. actually i need timer function. now all my table lamps are using mechanical timers. I dont touch the switch at all to turn on and offThis remote look like good enough for you. but i need a better timer, i need it to separate weekdays and weekends. This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 28 2016, 10:11 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 28 2016, 10:00 AM) actually i need timer function. now all my table lamps are using mechanical timers. I dont touch the switch at all to turn on and off Why you need a timer for your table lamps ? Where you place your table lamps?but i need a better timer, i need it to separate weekdays and weekends. I want to buy this LIFX but its expensive. But I only need 3 bulbs. It has timer and remote function buildin like Philips Hue There is a weekday weekend timer too in the market. http://www.lelong.com.my/electronic-digita...7-01-Sale-I.htm |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 28 2016, 10:13 AM) Why you need a timer for your table lamps ? Where you place your table lamps? just what i need! thanksThere is a weekday weekend timer too in the market. http://www.lelong.com.my/electronic-digita...7-01-Sale-I.htm for waking up and going to sleep. put at beside table lamp |
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ozak now can find a few Smart Plugs, can on/off, timer schedule, and even monitor power usage
 Remote Access – Control devices connected to the Smart Plug wherever you have Internet using the free Kasa app on your smartphone. Scheduling – Schedule the Smart Plug to automatically power electronics on and off as needed, like setting lights to come on at dusk or turn off at sunrise. Energy Monitoring – Analyze a device’s real-time and historical power consumption. Away Mode – Turns your devices on and off at different times to give the appearance that someone is home. Amazon Echo Voice Control – Amazon Echo (sold separately) lets you control devices connected to the Smart Plugs just using your voice. http://www.tp-link.com.my/products/details...0.html#overview got cheaper ones made by Orvibo as well but in chinese |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 28 2016, 08:45 PM) ozak now can find a few Smart Plugs, can on/off, timer schedule, and even monitor power usage China site have many. Cheap also.Remote Access – Control devices connected to the Smart Plug wherever you have Internet using the free Kasa app on your smartphone. Scheduling – Schedule the Smart Plug to automatically power electronics on and off as needed, like setting lights to come on at dusk or turn off at sunrise. Energy Monitoring – Analyze a device’s real-time and historical power consumption. Away Mode – Turns your devices on and off at different times to give the appearance that someone is home. Amazon Echo Voice Control – Amazon Echo (sold separately) lets you control devices connected to the Smart Plugs just using your voice. http://www.tp-link.com.my/products/details...0.html#overview got cheaper ones made by Orvibo as well but in chinese Get 1 and try la. But don't get the Chinese wan la. Alexa don't understand. |
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check out Samsung SmartThings. connect all your devices inside home.
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Where did u guys usually buy Samsung SmartThings? ebay?
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Oct 13 2016, 08:57 PM) Where did u guys usually buy Samsung SmartThings? ebay? you can get smartthings from amazonbtw, any forum discuss DIY of this smart home things? smartthings forum is here http://community.smartthings.com |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Oct 13 2016, 09:17 PM) Thanks bos. The cheapest price is in amazon?What is your feedback after using smartthings after period of time? Plan to give a try since I'm PLC & DCS engineer. |
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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Oct 14 2016, 10:58 AM) Thanks bos. The cheapest price is in amazon? What is DCS engineer ?What is your feedback after using smartthings after period of time? Plan to give a try since I'm PLC & DCS engineer. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 14 2016, 11:12 AM) What is DCS engineer ? Err.... Distributed Control System. Higher range of automation which bigger than plc and scada. Only used in industrial and oil & gas field. |
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anyone has experience in smart doorbell like Ring Doorbell Pro? I have recently bought one and Ring said it is compatible in MY. Any ideas of how to connect it? It uses a existing wired doorbell.
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QUOTE(0806A68032 @ Oct 19 2016, 04:31 AM) anyone has experience in smart doorbell like Ring Doorbell Pro? I have recently bought one and Ring said it is compatible in MY. Any ideas of how to connect it? It uses a existing wired doorbell. has your Ring doorbell arrived? any instructions?It requires a 16-24 VAC transformer, does it comes with one? I think our wiring are 240V AC very interesting, we were talking about it last time This post has been edited by idoblu: Oct 19 2016, 07:46 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Oct 19 2016, 07:41 AM) has your Ring doorbell arrived? any instructions? I am still in US but planning to move back and bought a ring doorbell pro.It requires a 16-24 VAC transformer, does it comes with one? I think our wiring are 240V AC very interesting, we were talking about it last time Yeah MY is 240V AC, however most doorbells don't use 240V AC as it will be dangerous and it only needs a low VAC. So most doorbell has a step down transformer built in. I was wondering can I just buy a step down transformer and add it to the circuit at the doorbell? I'm not sure if ring doorbell has a built in transformer, thats why it requires 16-24VAC or a existing doorbell connection. Any doorbell pros out there to clarify? |
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QUOTE(0806A68032 @ Oct 20 2016, 11:54 PM) I am still in US but planning to move back and bought a ring doorbell pro. If it said compactible, check the specification of the door bell. what is the voltage of the bell.Yeah MY is 240V AC, however most doorbells don't use 240V AC as it will be dangerous and it only needs a low VAC. So most doorbell has a step down transformer built in. I was wondering can I just buy a step down transformer and add it to the circuit at the doorbell? I'm not sure if ring doorbell has a built in transformer, thats why it requires 16-24VAC or a existing doorbell connection. Any doorbell pros out there to clarify? |
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Whoever wants to do voice command for their home device, do let me know. I have a few brand new Echo dots for sale.
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QUOTE(lilcool @ Nov 3 2016, 08:59 PM) Whoever wants to do voice command for their home device, do let me know. I have a few brand new Echo dots for sale. Can pm me price?Thanks |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 28 2016, 08:45 PM) ozak now can find a few Smart Plugs, can on/off, timer schedule, and even monitor power usage Interesting item. Any idea where can buy locally and how much?Remote Access – Control devices connected to the Smart Plug wherever you have Internet using the free Kasa app on your smartphone. Scheduling – Schedule the Smart Plug to automatically power electronics on and off as needed, like setting lights to come on at dusk or turn off at sunrise. Energy Monitoring – Analyze a device’s real-time and historical power consumption. Away Mode – Turns your devices on and off at different times to give the appearance that someone is home. Amazon Echo Voice Control – Amazon Echo (sold separately) lets you control devices connected to the Smart Plugs just using your voice. http://www.tp-link.com.my/products/details...0.html#overview got cheaper ones made by Orvibo as well but in chinese |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 22 2016, 11:25 AM) Interesting item. Any idea where can buy locally and how much? I got orvibo last week from lazada..around 60The app is in English now.. So far so good.. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 22 2016, 11:25 AM) Interesting item. Any idea where can buy locally and how much? http://www.lazada.com.my/tp-link-wi-fi-wir...y-16971065.html |
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QUOTE(rapple @ Dec 22 2016, 11:28 AM) I got orvibo last week from lazada..around 60 So much cheaper compare to TP link. How is it? Good to use?The app is in English now.. So far so good.. QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 22 2016, 11:38 AM) Thanks for the link. Not cheap huh. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 22 2016, 01:07 PM) So much cheaper compare to TP link. How is it? Good to use? Not bad for the price.. using it to control a stand lamp.. Thanks for the link. Not cheap huh. Can remote access and scheduling.. TPLink have more features.. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 22 2016, 01:07 PM) So much cheaper compare to TP link. How is it? Good to use? You can get xiaomi smart home kit, including smart plug, temp & humidity sensor, motion sensor, windows/doors sensor, smart button, hub at very low price. Thanks for the link. Not cheap huh. These xiaomi devices are zigbee devices, some even can integrate to smartthings, I'm getting the humidity sensor to monitor my drybox is working properly or not http://xiaomi-mi.com/smart-home/xiaomi-mi-smart-home-kit/ |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Dec 22 2016, 04:12 PM) You can get xiaomi smart home kit, including smart plug, temp & humidity sensor, motion sensor, windows/doors sensor, smart button, hub at very low price. is the app in english?These xiaomi devices are zigbee devices, some even can integrate to smartthings, I'm getting the humidity sensor to monitor my drybox is working properly or not http://xiaomi-mi.com/smart-home/xiaomi-mi-smart-home-kit/ i'm using the international version yi home camera.. |
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QUOTE(rapple @ Dec 22 2016, 04:18 PM) is the app in english? Yes, the iOS app support English.i'm using the international version yi home camera.. you can get the kit from aliexpress or ezbuy if you can't read Chinese. Lazada also selling but a bit pricey. |
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QUOTE(rapple @ Dec 22 2016, 02:53 PM) Not bad for the price.. using it to control a stand lamp.. TP only 1 extra function which is the away function, right?Can remote access and scheduling.. TPLink have more features.. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 22 2016, 04:42 PM) TP only 1 extra function which is the away function, right? U can set Different mode but can only use one mode at a time..Tp can connect to amazon and monitor usage.. |
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QUOTE(rapple @ Dec 22 2016, 05:11 PM) U can set Different mode but can only use one mode at a time.. I see. Okok, understand nowTp can connect to amazon and monitor usage.. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Dec 22 2016, 04:34 PM) Yes, the iOS app support English. How bout their smart light? In English as well?you can get the kit from aliexpress or ezbuy if you can't read Chinese. Lazada also selling but a bit pricey. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Dec 22 2016, 04:12 PM) You can get xiaomi smart home kit, including smart plug, temp & humidity sensor, motion sensor, windows/doors sensor, smart button, hub at very low price. This look good to me.These xiaomi devices are zigbee devices, some even can integrate to smartthings, I'm getting the humidity sensor to monitor my drybox is working properly or not http://xiaomi-mi.com/smart-home/xiaomi-mi-smart-home-kit/ All devices are control via wifi from the hub, right? |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 23 2016, 10:35 AM) This look good to me. Not really, most devices are zigbee devices, some of that are WiFiAll devices are control via wifi from the hub, right? |
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Managed to get it up and running ! Now it works with Siri as well and it can control The app is in Engrish , but its a lousy app. Good for pairing and enabling developer mode. After that you can use homebridge + homekit + Siri to control and automate it Now I need to replace the light switch |
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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 24 2016, 02:18 PM) Bought all xiaomi stuff Great to hear that! do you mind sharing some reference sites to integrate Xiaomi devices to Siri and homekit?Managed to get it up and running ! Now it works with Siri as well and it can control The app is in Engrish , but its a lousy app. Good for pairing and enabling developer mode. After that you can use homebridge + homekit + Siri to control and automate it Now I need to replace the light switch |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Dec 23 2016, 04:41 PM) Not really, most devices are zigbee devices, some of that are WiFi Good good. Coz my house 3rd floor have bad wifi reception. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 22 2016, 01:07 PM) So much cheaper compare to TP link. How is it? Good to use? It's better to buy better brand because you still need their cloud service. If their cloud is always down, your thing won't workThanks for the link. Not cheap huh. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 26 2016, 09:39 AM) It's better to buy better brand because you still need their cloud service. If their cloud is always down, your thing won't work Ow.....depends on cloud huh. Okok |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 26 2016, 09:39 AM) It's better to buy better brand because you still need their cloud service. If their cloud is always down, your thing won't work This thing still unreliable. Anything that cutoff from the cloud, your thing can't work. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 26 2016, 04:50 PM) This thing still unreliable. Yup. Btw one of my bulbs confirmed something wrong. Consistently offline more than the other twoAnything that cutoff from the cloud, your thing can't work. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Dec 26 2016, 04:50 PM) This thing still unreliable. Btw these type of things will never be 100% reliable. You just got to use it for non-critical taskAnything that cutoff from the cloud, your thing can't work. This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 26 2016, 06:01 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 26 2016, 06:01 PM) Btw these type of things will never be 100% reliable. You just got to use it for non-critical task Seems like the technology is still not mature huh. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Dec 27 2016, 09:05 AM) Seems like the technology is still not mature huh. like i said it will never be. internet can be down anytime. you are not going to use your smart plug to turn on some life saving incubator or whatnots....so dont worry about it |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 26 2016, 06:01 PM) Btw these type of things will never be 100% reliable. You just got to use it for non-critical task I guess the memory card cannot fit into the bulb. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 27 2016, 09:07 AM) like i said it will never be. internet can be down anytime. If only internet connection then still ok. I have been rely on internet for many other things, so far ok la.you are not going to use your smart plug to turn on some life saving incubator or whatnots....so dont worry about it What i worry more is the hardware or software immature nature kind of thing. |
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QUOTE(prasys @ Dec 24 2016, 02:18 PM) Bought all xiaomi stuff Hi, can you provide links or some guide how you configure them to work with siri?Managed to get it up and running ! Now it works with Siri as well and it can control The app is in Engrish , but its a lousy app. Good for pairing and enabling developer mode. After that you can use homebridge + homekit + Siri to control and automate it Now I need to replace the light switch Also, did you manage to get google now working with xiaomi hub? Just starting to have interest on getting voice commands to work with automated device after seeing some videos people using tasker app and combo with harmony hub |
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I saw this Sony Qrio Smart Lock at the Sony Building Ginza. It cost 18000 Yen which is about Rm700
Its very easy to install but unfortunately it doesnt fit my locks. My thumb turner is round instead of flat. And its is not convenient to take out smartphone to unlock doors as compare to conventional keys It has auto lock but no auto open. If only it can sense Im approaching and unlocks itself when it pairs with the smartphone But I like the idea of "sharing" the key with another person This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 30 2016, 06:32 PM |
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I plan to use tplink smart plug for controlling the lightings in badminton court remotely.
Will the smart plug able to handle the load? Lets say one plug controlling 40 tubes of 20w led t8. Thanks! |
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QUOTE(hikashi @ Jan 1 2017, 04:24 PM) I plan to use tplink smart plug for controlling the lightings in badminton court remotely. all your 40 tubes of light bulbs connected to one 3 pin plug? Will the smart plug able to handle the load? Lets say one plug controlling 40 tubes of 20w led t8. Thanks!  |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 1 2017, 09:43 PM) all your 40 tubes of light bulbs connected to one 3 pin plug? Total its only 800w though. |
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Anyone using amazon echo dot here?
Thinking about buying one and getting it work to with broadlink rm like in this video Sonoff seems to be a low cost alternative to smart plugs, curious to know how long it can last My friend bought broadlink tc2 smart switch but it stopped working after a few months |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 18 2015, 02:15 PM) I always read and hear people said this same thing. This is another way to impress girls...For me, it is just a waste of energy and time. Doesn't really usefull. The only reason I can think of is, it is a luxury thing. |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 12 2017, 02:29 PM) Anyone using amazon echo dot here? hmmm this Sonoff looks good...Sonoff seems to be a low cost alternative to smart plugs, curious to know how long it can last My friend bought broadlink tc2 smart switch but it stopped working after a few months ozak what do you think? This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 12 2017, 02:39 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2017, 02:39 PM) hmmm this Sonoff looks good... Look good. ozak what do you think? Where is the prg save? In the cloud or the device? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 12 2017, 04:48 PM) Look good. everything also cloud.... Where is the prg save? In the cloud or the device? in china cloud summore.... anyway i just ordered 4 to try.....cannot go wrong for $5 each only hope that it doesnt burn down my house |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2017, 05:41 PM) everything also cloud.... Later prc hack your house. in china cloud summore.... anyway i just ordered 4 to try.....cannot go wrong for $5 each only hope that it doesnt burn down my house Actually I m doubt with that price about quality. Since you offer as a white rat 1st, tell me later the result. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 12 2017, 06:15 PM) Later prc hack your house. I sked also. If PRC knows my IP address can masuk my network or not? 😅 Actually I m doubt with that price about quality. Since you offer as a white rat 1st, tell me later the result. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2017, 06:35 PM) I sked also. If PRC knows my IP address can masuk my network or not? 😅 Definitely la.2yrs ago, I went to china help the branch there. Sometime access my NAS back home. To get some file and manage media file for my wife. Than comeback. Suddenly don't no why sometime my NAS access so slow. Check the log file in the NAS. Fuuuuck.... Got somebody keep hacking in, in certain hour. Everyday, everyweek. I google the IP. And you know from where? It is the fucking china IP.  |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 12 2017, 06:48 PM) Definitely la. Wah so scary wei 😣2yrs ago, I went to china help the branch there. Sometime access my NAS back home. To get some file and manage media file for my wife. Than comeback. Suddenly don't no why sometime my NAS access so slow. Check the log file in the NAS. Fuuuuck.... Got somebody keep hacking in, in certain hour. Everyday, everyweek. I google the IP. And you know from where? It is the fucking china IP. No need password to masuk? How about using another third party app like this https://www.yonomi.co At least not from china One more thing, you can buy the RF version that don't use wifi This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 12 2017, 07:07 PM |
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Depending how the nas is access loh, sometime maybe due to house pc downloading and got Trojan.
Back to so called smart hokes, Actually, smart home is overrated. Smart is not the word to use. Is just bunch of sensor operate base on the logic someone program inside. It should be called programed home, not smart. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 12 2017, 07:16 PM) Depending how the nas is access loh, sometime maybe due to house pc downloading and got Trojan. Smart home is nothing more than a glorified remote control with timer function 😂Back to so called smart hokes, Actually, smart home is overrated. Smart is not the word to use. Is just bunch of sensor operate base on the logic someone program inside. It should be called programed home, not smart. |
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Remember more sensors more maintenance
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 12 2017, 02:29 PM) Anyone using amazon echo dot here? I'm going to get Echo dot to integrate with my smartthings home automation, actually I ordered it Nov last year through ezbuy, but they fxxx out and waste my 1.5 months waiting, very bad service for ezbuy US store.Thinking about buying one and getting it work to with broadlink rm like in this video » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Sonoff seems to be a low cost alternative to smart plugs, curious to know how long it can last » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « My friend bought broadlink tc2 smart switch but it stopped working after a few months I also just got the broadlink tc2 and RM Pro, now integrating with smartthings, so that I can use echo dot to voice control all my smart devices I bought the xiaomi temperature/humidity sensor lately to monitor my drybox humidity, the sensor is dirt cheap which costs < RM35, and it can work with smartthings, I'm going to buy more xiaomi zigbee plug/motion sensor/door & windows contact sensors since it is much cheaper and able to work with smartthings hub |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2017, 07:40 PM) Smart home is nothing more than a glorified remote control with timer function 😂 That is because you don't know about smart home, home automation is a hot topic in developed countries.My smart home will automatically open my autogate when I approach my home, turn on gate lights. living room lights automatically when I reach home when it is dark. turn off light when I watch TV/Movie, and one touch to turn on/off all my amp, TV, media player. it is more than what you thought, it can make your life easier if you know how to do it creatively. Further more, it is also can act as wireless house alarm, if someone break in your house, you will get notified through the app wherever you are , it also can integrate to IP Camera to take pic and video when house get intruded. This post has been edited by Kiding: Jan 12 2017, 09:06 PM |
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+ hacking and installing
+ iot / sensors, + SIM cards / internet + lorawan (many not into this game yet) / zwawe / bluetooth + Arduino / Raspberry / Orange / propriety controller + programming There you go, the need of smarthome. Hacking zwave is already happening, jamming gsm/4g/wifi, Bluetooth is in the market already. more fun for hacker to hack... |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 12 2017, 06:48 PM) Definitely la. you can flash your own programs, no need to use their app2yrs ago, I went to china help the branch there. Sometime access my NAS back home. To get some file and manage media file for my wife. Than comeback. Suddenly don't no why sometime my NAS access so slow. Check the log file in the NAS. Fuuuuck.... Got somebody keep hacking in, in certain hour. Everyday, everyweek. I google the IP. And you know from where? It is the fucking china IP. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2017, 07:00 PM) Wah so scary wei 😣 Of course got password la. Lucky the NAS have firewall and virus protected. If not, my file habis liau.No need password to masuk? How about using another third party app like this https://www.yonomi.co At least not from china One more thing, you can buy the RF version that don't use wifi I no expect. Found someone hack you like this sure scary la. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2017, 09:43 PM) you can flash your own programs, no need to use their app Don't understand why such a simple devise can't operate ownself. Got to use cloud. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 12 2017, 08:53 PM) I'm going to get Echo dot to integrate with my smartthings home automation, actually I ordered it Nov last year through ezbuy, but they fxxx out and waste my 1.5 months waiting, very bad service for ezbuy US store. I plan to buy one from taobao instead, faster to get from there.I also just got the broadlink tc2 and RM Pro, now integrating with smartthings, so that I can use echo dot to voice control all my smart devices I bought the xiaomi temperature/humidity sensor lately to monitor my drybox humidity, the sensor is dirt cheap which costs < RM35, and it can work with smartthings, I'm going to buy more xiaomi zigbee plug/motion sensor/door & windows contact sensors since it is much cheaper and able to work with smartthings hub Still no sales on echo dot for now. I notice for ezbuy you have to push them a bit, last time i tried to buy amazon fire tv stick during black friday sales and they only order it a week after that promo ended. Obviously it goes back to full price and I cancelled that order. What's the shipping fee for ezbuy us? I mostly use it for prime shipping now, can't go wrong with rm16 for a single checkout for any items. For the broadlink rm pro, how do you extend to other rooms? Do you have to use rf extender cable like with logitech harmony or get multiple rm pro and place it various room like the kitchen/living room? Can you share how you configure smartthings with xiaomi home suit system? |
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Smarthome system with an AI would be good in the future. Like Jarvis and now Friday in the ironman movies.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 12 2017, 10:05 PM) Don't understand why such a simple devise can't operate ownself. Got to use cloud. Cloud is also marketing hype lah, cloud is someone else computer inside Datacenter. The purpose of using cloud is they can milk you (annual /monthly), connecting around the world, high up time. Than again what is the point if got cloud connection but house Internet is depending in electric and one isp? Still got many point of failure. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 12 2017, 10:05 PM) Don't understand why such a simple devise can't operate ownself. Got to use cloud. Because it's a simple device, If it run by it ownself, you can't control it from anywhere in the world |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 13 2017, 07:49 AM) Next in line, "Alexa, appoint me as the president of my country." |
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 13 2017, 08:01 AM) Next in line, "Alexa, appoint me as the president of my country." Alexa / "OK Google" / "Hey, Siri", Get me lots of donation money.Alexa / "OK Google" / "Hey, Siri", what is my mummy credit card information? This post has been edited by weikee: Jan 13 2017, 08:05 AM |
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so this is where u guys discuss this things
hi idoblu, its me again setting up mine as well, currently, linking echo with hue and vera, still waiting for harmony hub to arrive so far problem encounter is when 2nd dot( in master room) cant connect to wifi other than that need the dot to really recognize your english n sentence structure |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:22 PM) so this is where u guys discuss this things where you bought your echo dot?hi idoblu, its me again setting up mine as well, currently, linking echo with hue and vera, still waiting for harmony hub to arrive so far problem encounter is when 2nd dot( in master room) cant connect to wifi other than that need the dot to really recognize your english n sentence structure |
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from amazon la, abuthen?
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:22 PM) so this is where u guys discuss this things I think should be no problem, saw an echo demo with a guy with thick chinese accent and still can get recognizedhi idoblu, its me again setting up mine as well, currently, linking echo with hue and vera, still waiting for harmony hub to arrive so far problem encounter is when 2nd dot( in master room) cant connect to wifi other than that need the dot to really recognize your english n sentence structure Do you plan to extend to other areas in your house with rf extender cables? How long was the delivery from amazon? |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 13 2017, 02:07 PM) from amazon la, abuthen? Amazon delivers to singapork? Cannot be. You use third party is it |
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i use 3rd party, the one we using for years
amazon deliver to sg la, no? @alucard, me stay small apt, did gotten another wifi extender, everything seems ok now, so far alexa did not turn red color in the bedroom delivery to my usa address quite fast, then consolidation cos waiting other items, then ship back here, ard 3 days bah, DHL |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 13 2017, 04:25 PM) i use 3rd party, the one we using for years ship back to MY or SG boss?amazon deliver to sg la, no? @alucard, me stay small apt, did gotten another wifi extender, everything seems ok now, so far alexa did not turn red color in the bedroom delivery to my usa address quite fast, then consolidation cos waiting other items, then ship back here, ard 3 days bah, DHL got kena tax or not if MY? Amazon dont ship Echo Dot outside of USA |
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my things now all ship to SG, lesser tax involved
then only we bring it back to MY ship to MY sure kena 20 + 10 la, barang sure exceed rm 500 This post has been edited by rx330: Jan 13 2017, 04:45 PM |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 13 2017, 04:44 PM) my things now all ship to SG, lesser tax involved Have you try ezbuy?then only we bring it back to MY ship to MY sure kena 20 + 10 la, barang sure exceed rm 500 |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 13 2017, 04:50 PM) Have you try ezbuy? Don't use ezbuy US buy for me service, suck big time!!! I wait for 1.5 months for echo dot and they told me Amazon didn't dispatch the items at the end, during the 1.5 month waiting period, message them, email them, all got this standard replied -> item not dispatched. It wastes my time and I lost opportunity to get echo dot at US$39.9, now I got to buy it at US$49.9! Fxxx ! ezbuy is my blacklist now. |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 12 2017, 10:07 PM) For the broadlink rm pro, how do you extend to other rooms? I don't extend, instead I bought two broadlink devices, one is RM pro and another one is black bean (RM Mini)Do you have to use rf extender cable like with logitech harmony or get multiple rm pro and place it various room like the kitchen/living room? Can you share how you configure smartthings with xiaomi home suit system? Certain xiaomi zigbee devices have custom device handlers for smartthings, so I just use those device handler to configure xiaomi zigbee devices |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 13 2017, 04:25 PM) i use 3rd party, the one we using for years Oh I meant for the harmony hub, did you buy more than one unit or just get one unit and extend to other rooms using rf cable?amazon deliver to sg la, no? , me stay small apt, did gotten another wifi extender, everything seems ok now, so far alexa did not turn red color in the bedroom delivery to my usa address quite fast, then consolidation cos waiting other items, then ship back here, ard 3 days bah, DHL DHL ar, sounds expensive for shipping, which service you're using & what's the overall price including postage? |
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no, i dont use ezbuy
the service i use is MYUS.com it has options for me to pick to use dhl or fedex, but all these while im used to DHL, easier access for me to pick up @alu, i just bought one unit of the harmony hub, havent reach me yet still thinking how can i link it so i can voice control in my room as well, any ideas? the hub itself will be in the living room for sure, it comes with an ir blaster too |
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Are there wifi controlled switches that can be hidden behind wall switches like those from Fibaro but not needing a controller hub?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 14 2017, 11:18 AM) Are there wifi controlled switches that can be hidden behind wall switches like those from Fibaro but not needing a controller hub? One of their staff confirmed they'll be adding support to alexa next month, good to know since i don't see any tasker integration with sonoff yet.I asked Sonoff but their reply is a bit strange http://support.iteadstudio.com/support/dis...ics/11000009015 |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 14 2017, 10:36 AM) no, i dont use ezbuy From what I've read, you can configure it directly using the alexa app. the service i use is MYUS.com it has options for me to pick to use dhl or fedex, but all these while im used to DHL, easier access for me to pick up @alu, i just bought one unit of the harmony hub, havent reach me yet still thinking how can i link it so i can voice control in my room as well, any ideas? the hub itself will be in the living room for sure, it comes with an ir blaster too I'm just wondering what's the best way to control rf/ir devices in other rooms. Either getting extra rm pro or rf extender device Now I'm still looking for low cost wifi/rf wall switch that be controlled using tasker/alexa. If anyone has any suggestions, please do recommend |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 16 2017, 01:15 PM) One of their staff confirmed they'll be adding support to alexa next month, good to know since i don't see any tasker integration with sonoff yet. i bought 4 http://support.iteadstudio.com/support/dis...ics/11000009015 thanks for intro here |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 16 2017, 01:21 PM) i bought 4 How are you using them so far? Easy to install? thanks for intro here |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 16 2017, 01:32 PM) How are you using them so far? Easy to install? I just ordered after seeing your postDunno takes how long to get here |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 16 2017, 01:39 PM) I just ordered after seeing your post I see, will be waiting for your review thenDunno takes how long to get here Are you using any wifi wall switch now also that's still in working condition now? I'm a bit doubtful with broadlink wall switch since it didn't last long when my friend had one |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 16 2017, 07:55 PM) I see, will be waiting for your review then Nope but wanted to buy the tp link smart plug. Now no need liaoAre you using any wifi wall switch now also that's still in working condition now? I'm a bit doubtful with broadlink wall switch since it didn't last long when my friend had one |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 16 2017, 08:06 PM) Nope but wanted to buy the tp link smart plug. Now no need liao There's that but I do wonder how sonoff works if there's more than 1 switch on 1 wall socket. |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 16 2017, 08:26 PM) There's that but I do wonder how sonoff works if there's more than 1 switch on 1 wall socket. Don't understand You want to use 1 Sonoff to control many ? Or do you have say an extension power outlet but you only want to control one something This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 16 2017, 08:34 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 16 2017, 08:32 PM) Don't understand Something like that, if there's like 3 switch on one wall socket like for nightlight, led light and fan.You want to use 1 Sonoff to control many ? Or do you have say an extension power outlet but you only want to control one something So it turns on/off all at once? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 16 2017, 08:41 PM) Something like that, if there's like 3 switch on one wall socket like for nightlight, led light and fan. Depends how you wire it. If you put the Sonoff at the extension wire then it will control all three. If put say at the fan wire then it controls the fanSo it turns on/off all at once? Oops...maybe I misunderstood you. You said wall switch? This is not for wall switch This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 16 2017, 08:44 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 16 2017, 08:43 PM) Depends how you wire it. If you put the Sonoff at the extension wire then it will control all three. If put say at the fan wire then it controls the fan Ok, understood Oops...maybe I misunderstood you. You said wall switch? This is not for wall switch It's specific to control one device, or whatever elss at the end of the wire |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 16 2017, 09:05 PM) Ok, understood Yes just think of it as a big switch. What do you want to turn on/off - then put this switch between that and the power plugIt's specific to control one device, or whatever elss at the end of the wire |
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im using aeotec and fibaro to switch off items
they shud be fixing it this weekend if they can make it bought a tp link to extend the home wifi, not very stable @ alucard, here is the problem im facing, since the harmony home would be at the living hall, im thinking wat other way can i use it to voice control the tv/appletv in my room as well any ideas? the RF extender need to be wired from the hub another thing i read is the remote that comes to it, can be used to send out IR, not too sure how it works |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2017, 12:47 PM) im using aeotec and fibaro to switch off items wah bro fibaro should be able to kautim everything, how come you got many controllers they shud be fixing it this weekend if they can make it bought a tp link to extend the home wifi, not very stable @ alucard, here is the problem im facing, since the harmony home would be at the living hall, im thinking wat other way can i use it to voice control the tv/appletv in my room as well any ideas? the RF extender need to be wired from the hub another thing i read is the remote that comes to it, can be used to send out IR, not too sure how it works |
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Jan 17 2017, 01:19 PM
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got a lot controller ar? hahahha
the fibaro is some box to be added behind the main switches as said the house is to be integrate with vera, but now is how to let it fully controlled by alexa hahaha |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 17 2017, 12:47 PM) im using aeotec and fibaro to switch off items Seems like wireless option would be all the devices listed herethey shud be fixing it this weekend if they can make it bought a tp link to extend the home wifi, not very stable @ alucard, here is the problem im facing, since the harmony home would be at the living hall, im thinking wat other way can i use it to voice control the tv/appletv in my room as well any ideas? the RF extender need to be wired from the hub another thing i read is the remote that comes to it, can be used to send out IR, not too sure how it works https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-ir-remote-exten...CFVcSHwodousEYw Btw, how many devices can you add with your hamony hub? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 17 2017, 11:29 PM) Seems like wireless option would be all the devices listed here rx330 says he stays in small apartment but I wonder what is his definition of "small" is? https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-ir-remote-exten...CFVcSHwodousEYw Btw, how many devices can you add with your hamony hub? 6000sf? |
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Jan 18 2017, 09:58 AM
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Wah, nowadays still got this RF and IR extender. Thought already obsolete.
Using 1 back 15yrs ago. Not stable with useless IR. Throw away. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 18 2017, 09:58 AM) Wah, nowadays still got this RF and IR extender. Thought already obsolete. give you cloud service you say not securedUsing 1 back 15yrs ago. Not stable with useless IR. Throw away. give you RF/IR you say obsolete |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 10:10 AM) give you cloud service you say not secured It is not the cloud is not secure. It is our net infrastructure is not secure.give you RF/IR you say obsolete I don't no what logic is it if just a program timer, have to go through all this Cloud-> ISP->fiber->wifi router->your wifi bulb. Just to switch ON ? A simple plug socket timer cost below RM100 already can do it and much much more secure. RF/IR have been long liau. Analog thing obsolete liau ma. Why you still need this device ? I remember brought it about RM200+. BTW, can I use my NAS cloud ? I got host cloud in my home. |
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Jan 18 2017, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 18 2017, 10:31 AM) It is not the cloud is not secure. It is our net infrastructure is not secure. If you dont use cloud, you cannot get it to do things where ever you are on this EarthI don't no what logic is it if just a program timer, have to go through all this Cloud-> ISP->fiber->wifi router->your wifi bulb. Just to switch ON ? A simple plug socket timer cost below RM100 already can do it and much much more secure. RF/IR have been long liau. Analog thing obsolete liau ma. Why you still need this device ? I remember brought it about RM200+. BTW, can I use my NAS cloud ? I got host cloud in my home. If using cloud, you can set up IFTTT - https://ifttt.com Your smartphone needs to be connected to the device - if you use bluetooth, its only nearby. If you use wifi, you need the cloud. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 10:35 AM) If you dont use cloud, you cannot get it to do things where ever you are on this Earth Put that prg into the bulb la. The bulb already have the IP and link to your router modem liau. From your hp apps, straight can find the bulb from where you are. Without need the cloud.If using cloud, you can set up IFTTT - https://ifttt.com Your smartphone needs to be connected to the device - if you use bluetooth, its only nearby. If you use wifi, you need the cloud. Why that IFTTT site tell me my browser outdate liau? Ask me to use chrome. I think I m outdate. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 18 2017, 11:20 AM) Put that prg into the bulb la. The bulb already have the IP and link to your router modem liau. From your hp apps, straight can find the bulb from where you are. Without need the cloud. You are obsolete Liao Why that IFTTT site tell me my browser outdate liau? Ask me to use chrome. I think I m outdate. If the device connects to your router, how your smartphone gonna connect to your device? Your smartphone can only make one connection at a time - either to the Internet or to the device. |
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the hub can connect till 8, unless if u buy the elite, then can go till 15 how does the IR repeater work? i connect one unit to the hub, and the other just put in another room? they will connect wirelessly? each of these IR unit needs to have a power source right? @idoblu my current house 1.2k sqf nia, not those 6k sqf penthouse Tried IFTTT, couldnt really get it to work wat i need need to experiment more the speed of it quite fast, i send a trigger from alexa to ifttt from there to philips hue, about 1 second or so |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 11:32 AM) You are obsolete Liao I mean why you put the brain at the cloud and not the device. If the device connects to your router, how your smartphone gonna connect to your device? Your smartphone can only make one connection at a time - either to the Internet or to the device. If you outside HP apps--> modem router--> device. But now your bulb is not talk direct with you ? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 18 2017, 11:43 AM) I mean why you put the brain at the cloud and not the device. The brain is at the device but to run the brain you need software. Software is at the cloudIf you outside HP apps--> modem router--> device. But now your bulb is not talk direct with you ? Or maybe I'm wrong - software on your smartphone (app) and the cloud is like a gateway |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 11:32 AM) You are obsolete Liao Not true, why the smartphone can't connect to the device? it is also connect to router, both are able to connect to each other as they connect to the local router. If the device connects to your router, how your smartphone gonna connect to your device? Your smartphone can only make one connection at a time - either to the Internet or to the device. smartphone can make few hundred connections at a time, it can connect to smart devices and internet at the same time Why some products require cloud? it is because it is easier to maintain the software, upgrade, patching are automatically done, cloud enables product to have more control of your smart home devices. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 18 2017, 08:40 PM) Not true, why the smartphone can't connect to the device? it is also connect to router, both are able to connect to each other as they connect to the local router. Got any examples or not?smartphone can make few hundred connections at a time, it can connect to smart devices and internet at the same time Why some products require cloud? it is because it is easier to maintain the software, upgrade, patching are automatically done, cloud enables product to have more control of your smart home devices. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 18 2017, 09:07 PM) Got any examples or not? There are many smart home devices are running locally without connecting to cloud, and managed by smart phone, especially china brand wifi smart devices like tp-link, home automation solutions like wemo, openhab, home assitant, control4, vera all can work without cloud. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 19 2017, 12:43 AM) There are many smart home devices are running locally without connecting to cloud, and managed by smart phone, especially china brand wifi smart devices like tp-link, home automation solutions like wemo, openhab, home assitant, control4, vera all can work without cloud. ozak there you go....no need cloud service for the aboveI think if you look at anything that uses z-wave or zigbee, then there is no need for cloud service. It's basically using RF TP-Link and Wemo still using cloud service though. This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 19 2017, 04:03 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 04:02 AM) ozak there you go....no need cloud service for the above Let say your bulb company close shop can't sustain. Cloud service sure no more since it need to pay to maintain. I think if you look at anything that uses z-wave or zigbee, then there is no need for cloud service. It's basically using RF TP-Link and Wemo still using cloud service though. What happen to your bulb and device? Will it stop functioning ? |
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Jan 19 2017, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 09:06 AM) Let say your bulb company close shop can't sustain. Cloud service sure no more since it need to pay to maintain. yup stop functioning and it has happened before - read hereWhat happen to your bulb and device? Will it stop functioning ? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016...nest-smart-home |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 09:18 AM) yup stop functioning and it has happened before - read here Risky investment ? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016...nest-smart-home |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 19 2017, 12:43 AM) There are many smart home devices are running locally without connecting to cloud, and managed by smart phone, especially china brand wifi smart devices like tp-link, home automation solutions like wemo, openhab, home assitant, control4, vera all can work without cloud. Remember back I have few device that direct wifi with HP. Don't need cloud, router or network. The WD wifi ext HDD. Use this for holiday to backup/extra space. It direct talk to my HP thru wifi. Gopro direct wifi with HP. Use my HP as press button and lcd screen. NAS through wifi router. Access without outside net if you at home. All this device have apps with HP and ipad. Update/fw is using your hp/pc. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 09:37 AM) Remember back I have few device that direct wifi with HP. Don't need cloud, router or network. I know... I also have a Sony camera can connect to my Smartphone via Wifi, can upload pictures to the Internet. Can also press the shutter button to take a picture, etcThe WD wifi ext HDD. Use this for holiday to backup/extra space. It direct talk to my HP thru wifi. Gopro direct wifi with HP. Use my HP as press button and lcd screen. NAS through wifi router. Access without outside net if you at home. All this device have apps with HP and ipad. Update/fw is using your hp/pc. But these are nearby devices to your smartphone. You cannot connect this camera located in KL, when you are across the world somewhere else. Downstairs also cannot lo maybe dun say so far... anyway like others have pointed out, some smart home controllers dont use cloud. but you need to buy their controller and other switches, sensors, etc and it still open up your router connection and maybe even compromise it - read here - https://www.veracode.com/blog/2013/07/the-m...home-power-user btw even my Samsung IP cam uses Cloud. If Samsung chuplup, I think got hacks to view my cam but cant do pretty much else |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 09:47 AM) I know... I also have a Sony camera can connect to my Smartphone via Wifi, can upload pictures to the Internet. Can also press the shutter button to take a picture, etc Aiya, don't worry la. Nobody want to see your naked. But these are nearby devices to your smartphone. You cannot connect this camera located in KL, when you are across the world somewhere else. Downstairs also cannot lo maybe dun say so far... anyway like others have pointed out, some smart home controllers dont use cloud. but you need to buy their controller and other switches, sensors, etc and it still open up your router connection and maybe even compromise it - read here - https://www.veracode.com/blog/2013/07/the-m...home-power-user btw even my Samsung IP cam uses Cloud. If Samsung chuplup, I think got hacks to view my cam but cant do pretty much else Your IP cam using cloud for what? Store video ? I think this is good point if the video can transfer to cloud immediately. If the thief take away your cam, the video is safe. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 09:58 AM) Aiya, don't worry la. Nobody want to see your naked. No the video is stored in the uSD card Your IP cam using cloud for what? Store video ? I think this is good point if the video can transfer to cloud immediately. If the thief take away your cam, the video is safe. but to view it and select which segment (time) to watch, you need to connect via the app in your smartphone. and the app connects to their cloud. You can view from anywhere in the world. You can view live video, listen or talk thru the IP cam |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 10:02 AM) No the video is stored in the uSD card Wah, risky wor. Once take away your cam, nothing to see already. but to view it and select which segment (time) to watch, you need to connect via the app in your smartphone. and the app connects to their cloud. You can view from anywhere in the world. You can view live video, listen or talk thru the IP cam No way to keep the video safe ? Everytime you view the cam in your home, do you see any "unusual thing" or "unusual sound" ? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 10:11 AM) Wah, risky wor. Once take away your cam, nothing to see already. you can set automatic upload still pictures to Google Photos and also save a video or photo copy on your smartphone (have to manually save using smartphone) No way to keep the video safe ? Everytime you view the cam in your home, do you see any "unusual thing" or "unusual sound" ? So far nothing paranormal but hor....I noticed my neighbor dunno do what job wan - they come home or leave during late hours like 2-3am 4-5am but never fixed time This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 19 2017, 10:18 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 10:15 AM) you can set automatic upload still pictures to Google Photos and also save a video or photo copy on your smartphone (have to manually save using smartphone) eh... you put your cam outside or inside? Your neighbour hot ? So far nothing paranormal but hor....I noticed my neighbor dunno do what job wan - they come home or leave during late hours like 2-3am 4-5am but never fixed time I once success capture a theft try to still my shoe early morning 4am, I begin interest to know anything unusual around my home. Try point my cam around my house. But nothing to see. Now trigger liau. Want to get a cam and wait for month 7. At least still picture can auto capture and upload. Otherwise makesure your cam not gone with the thief. |
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Jan 19 2017, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 10:30 AM) eh... you put your cam outside or inside? Your neighbour hot ? my cam is outside my wooden main door but inside my "grills" I once success capture a theft try to still my shoe early morning 4am, I begin interest to know anything unusual around my home. Try point my cam around my house. But nothing to see. Now trigger liau. Want to get a cam and wait for month 7. At least still picture can auto capture and upload. Otherwise makesure your cam not gone with the thief. actually i dont have grill, but a glass door so i can see thru quite hot....if not i wont be interested in watching..... my cam will only capture if it detected a motion. and or sound (but sound detection I turned off) |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 10:34 AM) my cam is outside my wooden main door but inside my "grills" Wei, share share la. actually i dont have grill, but a glass door so i can see thru quite hot....if not i wont be interested in watching..... my cam will only capture if it detected a motion. and or sound (but sound detection I turned off) Base on your experience, what cam function should have? What kind of cam to capture better. (at least can see your hot neighbour more detail). |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 10:43 AM) Wei, share share la. last time i review before ma Base on your experience, what cam function should have? What kind of cam to capture better. (at least can see your hot neighbour more detail). 1. must have 1080 at least 2. detect motion to start recording My one cannot pan, tilt or zoom but there is a new one from Samsung can pan and tilt i think mine is this - https://www.samsungsmartcam.com/web/ SNH-P6410BN The one can pan and tilt is - SNH-V6410PN This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 19 2017, 11:05 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 10:30 AM) eh... you put your cam outside or inside? Your neighbour hot ? Get those with thermal imaging. Doubt it will be cheap. I once success capture a theft try to still my shoe early morning 4am, I begin interest to know anything unusual around my home. Try point my cam around my house. But nothing to see. Now trigger liau. Want to get a cam and wait for month 7. At least still picture can auto capture and upload. Otherwise makesure your cam not gone with the thief. people says those paranormal thing usually comes with lower temperature.  |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 19 2017, 11:01 AM) last time i review before ma After long use, can get more accurate review. What pro n cons.1. must have 1080 at least 2. detect motion to start recording My one cannot pan, tilt or zoom but there is a new one from Samsung can pan and tilt i think mine is this - https://www.samsungsmartcam.com/web/ SNH-P6410BN The one can pan and tilt is - SNH-V6410PN Capture night better ? Hot chick normally appear at night. Lan power or 240v? |
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QUOTE(yushin @ Jan 19 2017, 11:02 AM) Get those with thermal imaging. Doubt it will be cheap. So serious meh ?people says those paranormal thing usually comes with lower temperature. Cost you a bomb with that camera. A normal handheld IR imaging already cost you few k. I more interest idoblu hot chick capture now. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 19 2017, 11:14 AM) After long use, can get more accurate review. What pro n cons. 240v - got an adaptorCapture night better ? Hot chick normally appear at night. Lan power or 240v? overall it works. One time my card got problem - it cannot be written anymore but can read. Maybe just the card problem. have to replace with a new card. i tried to write to that card with other devices from pc to phones also cannot sometimes if power failure, it may not connect back to the wifi correctly - so far only happened one time in 1.5 years overall it just works! Im really happy with it but even with 1080p resolution, i think still cant see the face nicely. from a distance if no lights, it will turn on its IR led to illuminate the area This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 19 2017, 11:27 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2017, 01:02 PM) alamak my Sonoff left Shenzhen --->HK----> now landed in Sweden hahahaha...... Round the world. shipped via SF-Express It will take a month to reach you. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 20 2017, 01:08 PM) Round the world. It will take a month to reach you. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2017, 01:13 PM) They piggy back some container. Few day ago, my item have been told will deliver here 2mnth+20days.  |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 20 2017, 01:18 PM) Free shipping right? not free - have to pay. I called them and they say "maybe wrongly ship" lolThey piggy back some container. Few day ago, my item have been told will deliver here 2mnth+20days. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2017, 01:20 PM) not free - have to pay. I called them and they say "maybe wrongly ship" lol "maybe wrongly ship" ?More worst. Ship back and ship again. 2 mnth at least. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 20 2017, 01:39 PM) "maybe wrongly ship" ? No la I think a nice blonde Swedish girl will deliver my package. They are going there to pick her upMore worst. Ship back and ship again. 2 mnth at least. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2017, 01:02 PM) alamak my Sonoff left Shenzhen --->HK----> now landed in Sweden hahahaha...... Aliexpress? How much did you buy from there?shipped via SF-Express |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 20 2017, 03:46 PM) Aliexpress? How much did you buy from there? not aliexpress but iteads - https://www.itead.cc$4.85 each |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2017, 03:48 PM) Free shipping right? Looks like they're using sweden post if pass thru sweden, like when I bought stuff from aliexpress |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 20 2017, 03:50 PM) Free shipping right? Looks like they're using sweden post if pass thru sweden, like when I bought stuff from aliexpress have to pay, there are a few selections to choose from. the cheapest was registerer airmail i think which was just little bit less than the SF-Express I choseSF Express is a Chinese company -= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Express This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 20 2017, 03:53 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2017, 03:52 PM) have to pay, there are a few selections to choose from. the cheapest was registerer airmail i think which was just little bit less than the SF-Express I chose Oh, okSF Express is a Chinese company -= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Express I estimate around 3 usd for shipping those 3 units? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 20 2017, 03:54 PM) Oh, ok I paid $8.45 for shippingI estimate around 3 usd for shipping those 3 units? i should have say something to them when I saw they put "Europe Distribution Center" Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 20 2017, 03:58 PM) I paid $8.45 for shipping Better to buy from taobao, those 3 units should be under 1kg @ rm13 using dexi should have say something to them when I saw they put "Europe Distribution Center" |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 18 2017, 11:36 AM) the hub can connect till 8, unless if u buy the elite, then can go till 15 how does the IR repeater work? i connect one unit to the hub, and the other just put in another room? they will connect wirelessly? each of these IR unit needs to have a power source right? my current house 1.2k sqf nia, not those 6k sqf penthouse Tried IFTTT, couldnt really get it to work wat i need need to experiment more the speed of it quite fast, i send a trigger from alexa to ifttt from there to philips hue, about 1 second or so Not too sure if they would connect wirelessly automatically since I've just recently started reading about them And for that reason I also bought broadlink rm pro since there's no limits to devices added |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 19 2017, 12:43 AM) There are many smart home devices are running locally without connecting to cloud, and managed by smart phone, especially china brand wifi smart devices like tp-link, home automation solutions like wemo, openhab, home assitant, control4, vera all can work without cloud. Hi, which one are you using now? Openhab or home assistant easier to setup? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 20 2017, 06:25 PM) Only thing I don't like is the device limitation with harmony hubs mine has just arrive, dont think will have time to fiddle with itNot too sure if they would connect wirelessly automatically since I've just recently started reading about them And for that reason I also bought broadlink rm pro since there's no limits to devices added personally i do not have that really many device, but if it could work ideally in this manner i would be happy (all thru voice command) living 1. tv 2. soundbar 3. exposure amp 4. PS4 (which doesnt work now i think) or wall mount fan 5. Kodi (if its possible) room 1. tv 2. apple tv 3. wall mount fan so max out about 8 items or so for my setup broadlink seems interesting, may ask my fren to consider if he wanna set up smart home the hub itself doesnt seem very expensive and it seems like one for all instead of my setup mine i need the pc to run 24/7 just to act as bridge to link alexa and vera |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 23 2017, 10:59 AM) mine has just arrive, dont think will have time to fiddle with it I'm not sure about vera, but with alexa you can install tasker on any android box and it can act as bridge and control broadlinkpersonally i do not have that really many device, but if it could work ideally in this manner i would be happy (all thru voice command) living 1. tv 2. soundbar 3. exposure amp 4. PS4 (which doesnt work now i think) or wall mount fan 5. Kodi (if its possible) room 1. tv 2. apple tv 3. wall mount fan so max out about 8 items or so for my setup broadlink seems interesting, may ask my fren to consider if he wanna set up smart home the hub itself doesnt seem very expensive and it seems like one for all instead of my setup mine i need the pc to run 24/7 just to act as bridge to link alexa and vera There's also home assistant app that you can install on raspberry pi board but it does require a bit more tinkering to configure properly with your existing devices. If you only have ir devices (mostly with aircon/fan) you can just get the cheaper broadlink mini 3 (no rf). I'm getting the broadlink pro since I might be planning to also get rf wall switches. Particularly for 4 gang wall switch, since most wifi switch only has 1/2 gang only. |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 23 2017, 11:57 AM) I'm not sure about vera, but with alexa you can install tasker on any android box and it can act as bridge and control broadlink their wall switches can fit out lobangs nicely? you tried already?There's also home assistant app that you can install on raspberry pi board but it does require a bit more tinkering to configure properly with your existing devices. If you only have ir devices (mostly with aircon/fan) you can just get the cheaper broadlink mini 3 (no rf). I'm getting the broadlink pro since I might be planning to also get rf wall switches. Particularly for 4 gang wall switch, since most wifi switch only has 1/2 gang only. |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 23 2017, 11:57 AM) I'm not sure about vera, but with alexa you can install tasker on any android box and it can act as bridge and control broadlink my wall switches are on Z waveThere's also home assistant app that you can install on raspberry pi board but it does require a bit more tinkering to configure properly with your existing devices. If you only have ir devices (mostly with aircon/fan) you can just get the cheaper broadlink mini 3 (no rf). I'm getting the broadlink pro since I might be planning to also get rf wall switches. Particularly for 4 gang wall switch, since most wifi switch only has 1/2 gang only. does rf switches need neutral on your wall switches? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 23 2017, 12:08 PM) their wall switches can fit out lobangs nicely? you tried already? QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 23 2017, 02:09 PM) my wall switches are on Z wave For broadlink switch can fit nicely.does rf switches need neutral on your wall switches? Not sure, haven't purchased any yet since I'm still browsing for 4 gang switch Which Z wave wall switch did you get? |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jan 23 2017, 02:09 PM) my wall switches are on Z wave The broadlink TC RF wall plate doesn't require neutral line, just a live wire is good enough.does rf switches need neutral on your wall switches? 
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 23 2017, 11:32 PM) The broadlink TC RF wall plate doesn't require neutral line, just a live wire is good enough. How many did you get and how long have they been working so far?
I have managed to integrate the broadlink RM Pro and RM Mini 3 to Alexa, the RM tasker app running on Android has feature to bridge Alexa and Broadlink eControl app, now I can use Alexa to voice control all broadlink devices Also, how long is the command line? Does it sound like 'Alexa, tell broadlink switch to turn/off lights' or is it shorter? Btw, is it a 1 way/2 way communication for switch? Last review I read mentioned that it's 1 way, like if you turn it off the app didn't update the last current on/off condition This post has been edited by alucard89: Jan 24 2017, 08:51 AM |
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where are you guys buying Broadlink stuff from? cheapest source and preferably with no Custom tax and import duties
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 08:58 AM) where are you guys buying Broadlink stuff from? cheapest source and preferably with no Custom tax and import duties Everytime kena? |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 24 2017, 09:40 AM) Everytime kena? my robomop didnt kena even it cost Rm990 my lifx kena my motorized blinds kena This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 24 2017, 10:39 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 08:58 AM) where are you guys buying Broadlink stuff from? cheapest source and preferably with no Custom tax and import duties Taobao seems to be cheapest one |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 10:38 AM) my robomop didnt kena even it cost Rm990 Which website did you get those?my lifx kena my motorized blinds kena Lazada or amazon? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 10:42 AM) Which website did you get those? 11streetLazada or amazon? This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 24 2017, 10:46 AM |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 10:41 AM) Taobao seems to be cheapest one how much is the 3 gang switch?I saw in Lazada about Rm120 |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 10:38 AM) my robomop didnt kena even it cost Rm990 I think they see where it from. Rather the price.my lifx kena my motorized blinds kena So far so good for me. Some is even over RM500. But never kena. Don't no how they choose to tax. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 10:45 AM) 11street They don't reimburse for that?Lazada does that for import purchase if you're charged any |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 10:47 AM) how much is the 3 gang switch? Around rm80I saw in Lazada about Rm120 |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 10:51 AM) Around rm80 then have to add postage and taxes, i think better to get from Lazada (no need pay postage, or taxes)sometimes can even get further discounts the switch cannot do dimming right? This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 24 2017, 10:55 AM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 10:54 AM) then have to add postage and taxes, i think better to get from Lazada (no need pay postage, or taxes) No tax, just postage (rm13 for 1st kg, then rm6 for next 0.5kg)sometimes can even get further discounts the switch cannot do dimming right? Not sore about that, mostly on/off |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 10:57 AM) No tax, just postage (rm13 for 1st kg, then rm6 for next 0.5kg) there is another company that makes switches that can dim - http://www.livolo.comNot sore about that, mostly on/off but it dont have timer function and cannot connect to the Net |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 11:00 AM) there is another company that makes switches that can dim - http://www.livolo.com I've read on that one.but it dont have timer function and cannot connect to the Net But the control is a bit different since don't have dedicated on/off button like other normal rf remote control 1 guy tried using with broadlink but it didn't work properly. You can search for it on YouTube, forgot which link |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 08:32 AM) How many did you get and how long have they been working so far? I bought 2 x two gang switch, each cost ~ RM40, just install recently so I can't confirm it is reliable or notAlso, how long is the command line? Does it sound like 'Alexa, tell broadlink switch to turn/off lights' or is it shorter? Btw, is it a 1 way/2 way communication for switch? Last review I read mentioned that it's 1 way, like if you turn it off the app didn't update the last current on/off condition each button in the Broadlink e-control app has an entry in the RM tasker, you can create a macro to combine multiple button actions, then, you can create a Alexa device contain the macro, let say I create movie macro which to turn on TV and amplifier, and I create Alexa device name in RM tasker call Watch Movie, then, you can talk to Alexa like "Alexa, turn on Watch Movie", Alexa will automatically execute the movie macro actions Broadlink TC is 1 way communication, just like other IR devices. z-wave, zigbee, wifi are mostly 2 ways communication QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 24 2017, 08:58 AM) where are you guys buying Broadlink stuff from? cheapest source and preferably with no Custom tax and import duties world.taobao.com or www.aliexpress.com, aliexpress is more expensive but it is English interface and mostly free shippingThis post has been edited by Kiding: Jan 24 2017, 05:31 PM |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 24 2017, 05:30 PM) I bought 2 x two gangs switch, each cost ~ RM40, just install recently so I can't confirm it is reliable or not Thanks 👍🏻each button in the Broadlink e-control app has an entry in the RM tasker, you can create a macro to combine multiple button action, then, you can create a Alexa device name contain the macro, let say I create movie macro which to turn on TV and amplifier, and I create Alexa device name in RM tasker call Watch Movie, then, you can talk to Alexa like "Alexa, turn on Watch Movie", Alexa will automatically execute the movie macro actions Broadlink TC is 1 way communication, just like other IR devices. z-wave, zigbee, wifi are mostly 2 ways communication world.taobao.com or www.aliexpress.com, aliexpress is more expensive but it is English interface and mostly free shipping |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 24 2017, 05:30 PM) I bought 2 x two gang switch, each cost ~ RM40, just install recently so I can't confirm it is reliable or not Thanks for the feedbackeach button in the Broadlink e-control app has an entry in the RM tasker, you can create a macro to combine multiple button actions, then, you can create a Alexa device contain the macro, let say I create movie macro which to turn on TV and amplifier, and I create Alexa device name in RM tasker call Watch Movie, then, you can talk to Alexa like "Alexa, turn on Watch Movie", Alexa will automatically execute the movie macro actions Broadlink TC is 1 way communication, just like other IR devices. z-wave, zigbee, wifi are mostly 2 ways communication world.taobao.com or www.aliexpress.com, aliexpress is more expensive but it is English interface and mostly free shipping I thought it was also wifi switch, that explains it Your broadlink also in the same room like switch right? How's the rf signal coverage? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 24 2017, 05:43 PM) Thanks for the feedback my switch is just 5 meters away from the broadlink hub, so signal is good.I thought it was also wifi switch, that explains it Your broadlink also in the same room like switch right? How's the rf signal coverage? |
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I calculated I only need - (TC2 switches)
3 gang - 2x 2 gang - 2x 1 gang - 1x Not going to change anything for my rooms as my master bedroom I use mostly my LIFX lamps. The rest like dressing room and guest room - no need automate. I think Rm1,000 can kautim |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 24 2017, 05:50 PM) my switch is just 5 meters away from the broadlink hub, so signal is good. Since it's only rf, i might consider getting other cheaper rf switch especially for the 4 gang switch.Btw, broadlink tc2 doesn't come with remote right since rm pro already have those commands built in? For wifi switch, itead seems to be the best option since alexa support coming soon after cny. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 25 2017, 09:41 AM) I calculated I only need - (TC2 switches) What else you plan to buy with 1k? 3 gang - 2x 2 gang - 2x 1 gang - 1x Not going to change anything for my rooms as my master bedroom I use mostly my LIFX lamps. The rest like dressing room and guest room - no need automate. I think Rm1,000 can kautim Seems like under rm500 should be enough for all switch listed Maybe getting one of those motorized curtains? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 25 2017, 11:12 AM) What else you plan to buy with 1k? i havent caluclated yet. just a rough figureSeems like under rm500 should be enough for all switch listed Maybe getting one of those motorized curtains? just these switches and the broadlink RM pro |
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seems broadlink RM is like a good option, shud have went with this instead of vera, somemroe no need neutral wire
my harmony hub arrived yesterday, did some setup not really easy to setup especially it needs to cnnect to server only thing i can do now is " Alexa turn on/off tv " but my stupid soundbar giving me issues harmony will power up the soundbar, switch to hdmi 1, but after a few seconds my soundbar will auto switch back to its home menu |
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My Sonoff still in Sweden 😭
Now CNY holidays dunno when only gonna get here. Regret using SF-Express. If I select Registered Post already sampai |
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Plan to get broadlink rm. coz it is quite cheap to bring in myself from taobao. Anyone review this smarthome system? Good?
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I think the answers r at previous post. Haha xD
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QUOTE(luvox @ Jan 26 2017, 08:39 PM) I think the answers r at previous post. Haha xD There's the broadlink mini 3 that has voice commandOnly in chinese though, not sure how well it works |
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Do you use alexa/broadlink to control your ceiling fan? Mind sharing the best config to give proper command to adjust fan speed? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 27 2017, 08:02 PM) Kiding I don't have ceiling fan, I plan to control the towel fan, it is not difficult to control fan speed by asking "Alexa, turn on fast fan" or "Alexa, turn on slow fan" where "fast fan" or "slow fan" refer to the IR macro name which consist of IR command "high speed, medium speed, low speed"Do you use alexa/broadlink to control your ceiling fan? Mind sharing the best config to give proper command to adjust fan speed? |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 28 2017, 01:41 PM) I don't have ceiling fan, I plan to control the towel fan, it is not difficult to control fan speed by asking "Alexa, turn on fast fan" or "Alexa, turn on slow fan" where "fast fan" or "slow fan" refer to the IR macro name which consist of IR command "high speed, medium speed, low speed" Thanks for that, good thing my fan has discrete command for on/off signalBtw, I'm thinking of getting this RF wall switch 4 gang since I couldn't find any 4 gang wifi There's itead wall switch but only up to 3 gang, will see if they include alexa skill update for this too after CNY holiday ends.  https://world.taobao.com/item/45596858861.h...064901.8.dGAqSe Anyone here care to comment what other things to consider for wall switch, like the max load? Since I'm not much of an electrician I'm gonna be using one to turn on 8 led lights (1 switch = 2 led lights) |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 30 2017, 08:21 PM) Thanks for that, good thing my fan has discrete command for on/off signal Iteads got more than 1 gang? I only see one gangBtw, I'm thinking of getting this RF wall switch 4 gang since I couldn't find any 4 gang wifi There's itead wall switch but only up to 3 gang, will see if they include alexa skill update for this too after CNY holiday ends. https://world.taobao.com/item/45596858861.h...064901.8.dGAqSe Anyone here care to comment what other things to consider for wall switch, like the max load? Since I'm not much of an electrician I'm gonna be using one to turn on 8 led lights (1 switch = 2 led lights) This Chuguan looks nice - do they have a proper website? If you are using LED lights, too much load won't be the problem but not enough load. If the load is too low, some of these switches/ dimmer don't work well. They make your lights flicker. That's why like Broadlink ones comes with capacitors This post has been edited by idoblu: Jan 31 2017, 02:16 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 31 2017, 02:12 PM) Iteads got more than 1 gang? I only see one gang Can't seem to find any, does the chuguan taobao link shows that it comes with capacitors or not?This Chuguan looks nice - do they have a proper website? If you are using LED lights, too much load won't be the problem but not enough load. If the load is too low, some of these switches/ dimmer don't work well. They make your lights flicker. That's why like Broadlink ones comes with capacitors https://world.taobao.com/item/540194306845....96601.96.aOUxly Oh wait, it's not sonoff, it's actually tantech switch which can be controlled by ewelink You can see it listed in the wiki page under device details https://www.itead.cc/wiki/EWeLink_Introduction There's also cheaper wifi switch with normal design (not touch ones) but I'm doubtful about alexa skill for those This post has been edited by alucard89: Jan 31 2017, 03:12 PM |
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ok my alexa now can turn on and off my fan, harmony needs to learn from the remote as its not in their spec
and the remote only has off button , no on off did a few research n settings only get it to work turn on = fan speed turn off = off button now is which IR repeater to get so this function is possible in my room fan also, if not i would need another IR blaster for the VERA system in order for the room fan to work  This post has been edited by rx330: Feb 2 2017, 10:50 AM |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 2 2017, 10:49 AM) ok my alexa now can turn on and off my fan, harmony needs to learn from the remote as its not in their spec Maybe you can try this one?and the remote only has off button , no on off did a few research n settings only get it to work turn on = fan speed turn off = off button now is which IR repeater to get so this function is possible in my room fan also, if not i would need another IR blaster for the VERA system in order for the room fan to work http://www.lelong.com.my/200m-wireless-ir-...7-01-Sale-I.htm |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 2 2017, 01:52 PM) thanksAny idea how this work? one end i plug the receiver unit into the harmony 2nd IR port blaster(in my living) and the 2nd unit i just place it in my room? |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 3 2017, 03:39 PM) This cost more than buying a ready build August or Sony smart lock |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 2 2017, 02:29 PM) thanks That should be how it worksAny idea how this work? one end i plug the receiver unit into the harmony 2nd IR port blaster(in my living) and the 2nd unit i just place it in my room? If you do decide to grab that one, do provide feedback on the range |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 3 2017, 03:48 PM) This cost more than buying a ready build August or Sony smart lock Is the fun of building one. Using is secondary |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 3 2017, 04:43 PM) That should be how it works ok, will try n purchase If you do decide to grab that one, do provide feedback on the range btw im just curious, from its description(its actually copied from another models IR repeater), it says it can link up to 3 different devices does this means max i could control 3 devices only in my bedroom? |
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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Feb 4 2017, 10:55 PM) any1 got source for smart tint? What is a smart tint? |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 4 2017, 08:55 AM) ok, will try n purchase Well it's not exactly like harmony when you have to setup specific numbers of devices that you need to controlbtw im just curious, from its description(its actually copied from another models IR repeater), it says it can link up to 3 different devices does this means max i could control 3 devices only in my bedroom? From what I understand it should transmit any ir signal it receives For me, I'd probably add broadlink rm mini for since it's a cheaper option |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 6 2017, 02:26 PM) have to buy direct from usa for the smart tint i guess Got any specific brand that's reliable for smart tint from china?china has one cheaper version, my fren and me were looking into this product sometime ago This looks interesting, reminds of the viper tv show |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 6 2017, 03:51 PM) The smart thingy is from the tint or the glass? Look like glass to me. it should be a tint. the cable is hidden. so theoretically this should be cheaper then replacing a whole glass. |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 6 2017, 02:26 PM) have to buy direct from usa for the smart tint i guess do u have the keyword? translating from google and search from taobao prove to be hard.china has one cheaper version, my fren and me were looking into this product sometime ago |
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The so called smart tint already in the market 15 yrs back
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QUOTE(Netto Hikari @ Feb 6 2017, 06:45 PM) it should be a tint. the cable is hidden. so theoretically this should be cheaper then replacing a whole glass. Can electrify a tint? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 6 2017, 10:50 PM) This? Seems like is a glass, not those lamination film.https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/High...0528978674.html https://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/CN/smart-glass.html QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 7 2017, 01:03 AM) This 1 confirm can not be "add on" tint. Is a "glass" by itself if i interprate correctly. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 7 2017, 09:24 AM) Seems like is a glass, not those lamination film. there are two types laThis 1 confirm can not be "add on" tint. Is a "glass" by itself if i interprate correctly. one is a film like tint film. end users can install this on their own the other one must be sandwich between two pieces of glass like laminated glass this one must be done at their factory anyway, this thing is good for privacy but it doesnt totally black out the Sun. It will be like frosted glass, and our strong sunlight can still get through. I feel its not really suitable for our climate unless you dont get any direct sunlight |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 09:39 AM) there are two types la The link provided by you says is float glass. Which can be self install?one is a film like tint film. end users can install this on their own the other one must be sandwich between two pieces of glass like laminated glass this one must be done at their factory anyway, this thing is good for privacy but it doesnt totally black out the Sun. It will be like frosted glass, and our strong sunlight can still get through. I feel its not really suitable for our climate unless you dont get any direct sunlight Sandwhich tint film should be the one pointed out by Kiding, right? |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 7 2017, 09:24 AM) Seems like is a glass, not those lamination film. If you look at the spec in the link carefully, then you will not think it is a glass.This 1 confirm can not be "add on" tint. Is a "glass" by itself if i interprate correctly. |
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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Feb 7 2017, 09:46 AM) The link provided by you says is float glass. Which can be self install? sorry the explanation wasnt in my earlier linkSandwhich tint film should be the one pointed out by Kiding, right? try this - https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Jiny...0420157159.html |
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My Sonoff finally arrived! Weird thing is SF-Express sent it to me from Sweden via normal Swedish Post so Pos Malaysia delivers it. Its like they gave up and use the airmail ....lol
Anyway, the Sonoff is quite small, seen here side by side a portable HDD  Installing it is also very simple - just two inputs L & N and two outputs. One thing I feel is the terminal block is rather weak. Its soldered into the board but when you tightened the screws, the block will move a bit to one side. I worry that the solder connection may break and may cause some arcing. This can be solved by taking off the cover and hold the terminal block down while you tightened the screws. I installed two Sonoff for 1 table lamp and the other I installed it in an extension cord. On this extension cord, I have three other small table lamps. So one Sonoff will control all three lamps and whatever else I plug into this extension. For the extension, I did not cut the Earth wire but route it inside the Sonoff box - Only adjustment is that you have to cut a bit of the top cover (see pics)    Just make sure all the wires are clear of the screw holes for the two side covers. The two side covers will hold the wire in place, it has some teeth.   Extension Finished -  The other single table lamp -  This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 7 2017, 12:22 PM |
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Next is pairing it with the EWeLink App. Press the Pairing button on the Sonoff.
You select the Sonoff to pair with  Go to your smartphone's WIFI setting and select the ITEADS......device  Then it will start pairing -  Btw ozak, I connected it to my Wifi Guest Network which has limited excess (can only go to Internet) and it works.  You can control the Sonoff device in three ways - Countdown Timer, Timer Schedule, and Scene Countdown timer - you set how many days, hours or minutes and it will countdown to either On or Off your device  Timer Schedule - this one you set it to go On or Off and certain dates, days and time - yes you can skip certain days  Scene - you can set either a Smart Scene or Non-Smart Scene. Smart Scene is like you got a temperature sensor and you can set the sensor to send a signal to the Sonoff. Non-Smart Scene - you can group some or all the Sonoff to trigger Overall I am happy with it, anyway its darn cheap at only $5 each, what more can you expect? This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 7 2017, 03:35 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 12:21 PM) Next is pairing it with the EWeLink App. Press the Pairing button on the Sonoff. For $5, it is damn cheap. You select the Sonoff to pair with Go to your smartphone's WIFI setting and select the ITEADS......device Then it will start pairing - Btw ozak, I connected it to my Wifi Guest Network which has limited excess (can only go to Internet) and it works. You can control the Sonoff device in three ways - Countdown Timer, Timer Schedule, and Scene Countdown timer - you set how many days, hours or minutes and it will countdown to either On or Off your device Timer Schedule - this one you set it to go On or Off and certain dates, days and time - yes you can skip certain days Scene - you can set either a Smart Scene or Non-Smart Scene. Smart Scene is like you got a temperature sensor and you can set the sensor to send a signal to the Sonoff. Non-Smart Scene - I think it uses IFTTT commands - I am not sure, I havent try this out yet One con - I cant control a group of things - For example I have two Sonoff and it allows me to group this two devices but I cant control it like one click to turn On or Off this entire group of devices. As you can see here, you can only toggle one device not a group Overall I am happy with it, anyway its darn cheap at only $5 each, what more can you expect? |
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Very nicely done review and thanks for the neutral wire tip So still no group feature in the app For international shipping service like sweden post/china post they usually past it to pos msia Btw, have you tested with alexa voice command? Assuming they've upgraded the firmware to include alexa skill |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 7 2017, 01:33 PM) idoblu I think you meant the Earth wire?Very nicely done review and thanks for the neutral wire tip So still no group feature in the app For international shipping service like sweden post/china post they usually past it to pos msia Btw, have you tested with alexa voice command? Assuming they've upgraded the firmware to include alexa skill I got no Alexa so ....cant test |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 12:21 PM) My Sonoff finally arrived! Weird thing is SF-Express sent it to me from Sweden via normal Swedish Post so Pos Malaysia delivers it. Its like they gave up and use the airmail ....lol Nice toy. How is the build quality? Hope is good. Anyway, the Sonoff is quite small, seen here side by side a portable HDD Installing it is also very simple - just two inputs L & N and two outputs. One thing I feel is the terminal block is rather weak. Its soldered into the board but when you tightened the screws, the block will move a bit to one side. I worry that the solder connection may break and may cause some arcing. This can be solved by taking off the cover and hold the terminal block down while you tightened the screws. I installed two Sonoff for 1 table lamp and the other I installed it in an extension cord. On this extension cord, I have three other small table lamps. So one Sonoff will control all three lamps and whatever else I plug into this extension. For the extension, I did not cut the Earth wire but route it inside the Sonoff box - Only adjustment is that you have to cut a bit of the top cover (see pics) Just make sure all the wires are clear of the screw holes for the two side covers. The two side covers will hold the wire in place, it has some teeth. Extension Finished - The other single table lamp - After yesterday incident in USJ2 fire (just 2 row from my house) , i want to have good build quality things. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 12:21 PM) My Sonoff finally arrived! Weird thing is SF-Express sent it to me from Sweden via normal Swedish Post so Pos Malaysia delivers it. Its like they gave up and use the airmail ....lol Nice toy. How is the build quality? Hope is good. Anyway, the Sonoff is quite small, seen here side by side a portable HDD Installing it is also very simple - just two inputs L & N and two outputs. One thing I feel is the terminal block is rather weak. Its soldered into the board but when you tightened the screws, the block will move a bit to one side. I worry that the solder connection may break and may cause some arcing. This can be solved by taking off the cover and hold the terminal block down while you tightened the screws. I installed two Sonoff for 1 table lamp and the other I installed it in an extension cord. On this extension cord, I have three other small table lamps. So one Sonoff will control all three lamps and whatever else I plug into this extension. For the extension, I did not cut the Earth wire but route it inside the Sonoff box - Only adjustment is that you have to cut a bit of the top cover (see pics) Just make sure all the wires are clear of the screw holes for the two side covers. The two side covers will hold the wire in place, it has some teeth. Extension Finished - The other single table lamp - After yesterday incident in USJ2 fire (just 2 row from my house) , i want to have good build quality things. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 7 2017, 02:13 PM) Nice toy. How is the build quality? Hope is good. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3777583/+40After yesterday incident in USJ2 fire (just 2 row from my house) , i want to have good build quality things. Short circuit ? |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 7 2017, 02:13 PM) Nice toy. How is the build quality? Hope is good. OMG 😲 just two rows away? After yesterday incident in USJ2 fire (just 2 row from my house) , i want to have good build quality things. Build quality is okay except as I said the terminal block not so solid only. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 12:21 PM) My Sonoff finally arrived! Weird thing is SF-Express sent it to me from Sweden via normal Swedish Post so Pos Malaysia delivers it. Its like they gave up and use the airmail ....lol Wei, dangerous la that earth wire didn't connect it.Anyway, the Sonoff is quite small, seen here side by side a portable HDD Installing it is also very simple - just two inputs L & N and two outputs. One thing I feel is the terminal block is rather weak. Its soldered into the board but when you tightened the screws, the block will move a bit to one side. I worry that the solder connection may break and may cause some arcing. This can be solved by taking off the cover and hold the terminal block down while you tightened the screws. I installed two Sonoff for 1 table lamp and the other I installed it in an extension cord. On this extension cord, I have three other small table lamps. So one Sonoff will control all three lamps and whatever else I plug into this extension. For the extension, I did not cut the Earth wire but route it inside the Sonoff box - Only adjustment is that you have to cut a bit of the top cover (see pics) Just make sure all the wires are clear of the screw holes for the two side covers. The two side covers will hold the wire in place, it has some teeth. Extension Finished - The other single table lamp - Use the straight joint connector la.  |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 02:24 PM) Wei, dangerous la that earth wire didn't connect it. The single lamp got no earth, just two wire only worUse the straight joint connector la. The extension cord got earth |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 02:25 PM) The single lamp got no earth, just two wire only wor I see the sonoff joint to the extension wire ?The extension cord got earth |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 02:16 PM) No idea yet, don't want to speculate. Is really sad. He is our committee leader. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 02:24 PM) OMG 😲 just two rows away? Yeah, house on fire is 1st row, mine is 3rd row.Build quality is okay except as I said the terminal block not so solid only. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 7 2017, 02:51 PM) Yeah, house on fire is 1st row, mine is 3rd row. Check this YouTubeHe didn't say anything about bad quality so I think should be good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_389pQPLyr8 |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 02:45 PM) I see the sonoff joint to the extension wire ? Extension power outlet have Earth wire. The Sonoff itself got no connection to Earth. Actually the Neutral also just pass thru only. Watch the YouTube video one post above See here This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 7 2017, 03:20 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 03:17 PM) Extension power outlet have Earth wire. The Sonoff itself got no connection to Earth. Actually the Neutral also just pass thru only. Watch the YouTube video one post above Is your joining is 3pin plug -> sonoff-> whole role socket ?See here If yes, than the whole role of socket earth side don't have earth. The earth wire got to joint and pass thru the sonoff. |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 03:28 PM) Is your joining is 3pin plug -> sonoff-> whole role socket ? Yes 3pin plug -> sonoff-> whole row switchesIf yes, than the whole role of socket earth side don't have earth. The earth wire got to joint and pass thru the sonoff. Got Earth pass thru, I didn't cut it. Can see the green/yellow wire on top of the relay? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 7 2017, 01:33 PM) idoblu I found out how to group them - using the scene setting. Setting it up wasn't intuitive that's why I confused sikitVery nicely done review and thanks for the neutral wire tip So still no group feature in the app For international shipping service like sweden post/china post they usually past it to pos msia Btw, have you tested with alexa voice command? Assuming they've upgraded the firmware to include alexa skill Alexa commands will be implemented first quarter of 2017 according to Iteads This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 7 2017, 03:37 PM |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 03:32 PM) Yes 3pin plug -> sonoff-> whole row switches The picture confuse ler.Got Earth pass thru, I didn't cut it. Can see the green/yellow wire on top of the relay?  |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 03:39 PM) The picture confuse ler. Ya I also dunno what is that black part but it's one complete wire uncutLater I check what is that black thing. Maybe a cap 😜 This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 7 2017, 03:43 PM |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 03:39 PM) The picture confuse ler. It's the relay hiding it 😅 |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 04:11 PM) It's the relay hiding it 😅 Look see look see in the Itead. Many interesting component. Specially those 5-24v wifi and switching. I m designing a solar battery protected circuit project. After last few week bad weather drain my battery alarming low. But so far can't find any usefull component in the Itead. This similar https://www.itead.cc/smart-home/sonoff-sv.html as your wan is quite interesting. |
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Is this Sonoff safe? Because the fella in the SuperHouse YouTube channel says it's not approved by their local regulations.
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QUOTE(Two5Kid @ Feb 7 2017, 04:25 PM) Is this Sonoff safe? Because the fella in the SuperHouse YouTube channel says it's not approved by their local regulations. angmoh countries got a lot of building codes |
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QUOTE(Two5Kid @ Feb 7 2017, 04:25 PM) Is this Sonoff safe? Because the fella in the SuperHouse YouTube channel says it's not approved by their local regulations. It is not easy to apply those cert. Like sirim.If they have such label, that device is not cheap already. |
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Sonoff is already supported by Alexa FYI. I m getting a few sets once my house is ready for reno.
BTW for those who wanted alternative to Phillips Hue, you can get Yeelight. I got mine working directly with Alexa without the bridge. |
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ozak btw the Sonoff uses Cloud but it once you set it, if your Internet down, and you already set the schedule, it will continue to follow the set schedule cause all the timing is inside Sonoff.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 04:47 PM) ozak btw the Sonoff uses Cloud but it once you set it, if your Internet down, and you already set the schedule, it will continue to follow the set schedule cause all the timing is inside Sonoff. No more cloud cloud memory? You just cant use your smartphone to trigger it So the setting is inside the unit already. that is good. |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 03:15 PM) Check this YouTube Rely on cloud, is not going to be good. better do what the Superhouse did, refresh to own firmwareHe didn't say anything about bad quality so I think should be good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_389pQPLyr8 This post has been edited by weikee: Feb 7 2017, 05:27 PM |
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just buy the RF version if you sked of Cloud - https://www.itead.cc/wireless-4-buttons-pus...controller.html
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 05:30 PM) just buy the RF version if you sked of Cloud - https://www.itead.cc/wireless-4-buttons-pus...controller.html Looking for 2CH. But it only have 1 CH. https://www.itead.cc/smart-home/sonoff-rf.html |
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 7 2017, 04:43 PM) Sonoff is already supported by Alexa FYI. I m getting a few sets once my house is ready for reno. Wah niceBTW for those who wanted alternative to Phillips Hue, you can get Yeelight. I got mine working directly with Alexa without the bridge. What name does it show up as after alexa scans for new devices? How many bulbs do you have installed |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 7 2017, 05:52 PM) Wah nice It shows the name you put in yeelight app. You need to install Alexa module in Alexa app. I bought 4 lights only setup two. What name does it show up as after alexa scans for new devices? How many bulbs do you have installed I am getting so lazy after installing all these stuff. Broadlink still haven't setup with my Alexa yet. Need get a bridge for the tasker to work, dunno which Android tablet or tvbox is have good reliability. |
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 7 2017, 06:21 PM) It shows the name you put in yeelight app. You need to install Alexa module in Alexa app. I bought 4 lights only setup two. Better get tvbox since it doesn't rely on battery, any cheap one will do since only need it as bridge.I am getting so lazy after installing all these stuff. Broadlink still haven't setup with my Alexa yet. Need get a bridge for the tasker to work, dunno which Android tablet or tvbox is have good reliability. Or just use any old android phones and install broadlink rm plugin. I'm just waiting for confirmation other devices that's setup using ewelink can be controlled with alexa (tantech switch) https://www.itead.cc/wiki/EWeLink_Introduction I was gonna grab rf wall switch but I'm holding it off for the moment since remote button sends both on/off commands. I was expecting similar to rf fans where you have discrete button for turning fan on or off. Have they released ewelink plugin on the alexa app? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 7 2017, 06:45 PM) Better get tvbox since it doesn't rely on battery, any cheap one will do since only need it as bridge. I guess their app haven't approved by amazon yet, but here is the demo video.Or just use any old android phones and install broadlink rm plugin. I'm just waiting for confirmation other devices that's setup using ewelink can be controlled with alexa (tantech switch) https://www.itead.cc/wiki/EWeLink_Introduction I was gonna grab rf wall switch but I'm holding it off for the moment since remote button sends both on/off commands. I was expecting similar to rf fans where you have discrete button for turning fan on or off. Have they released ewelink plugin on the alexa app? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzfgFl70Ee0&feature=youtu.be |
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 7 2017, 09:01 PM) I guess their app haven't approved by amazon yet, but here is the demo video. oh crap! does this means I need new Sonoff hardware for Alexa to work? Or do I just need a firmware upgrade?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzfgFl70Ee0&feature=youtu.be |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 09:06 PM) oh crap! does this means I need new Sonoff hardware for Alexa to work? Or do I just need a firmware upgrade? Aiya why so susah.Just call your wife and she will do it for you. |
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 7 2017, 09:01 PM) I guess their app haven't approved by amazon yet, but here is the demo video. Saw that weeks back, hopefully comes out soon since they did say it'll be out after cny.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzfgFl70Ee0&feature=youtu.be Btw, if add device in alexa group, can skip 'tell ewelink to turn on/off device' and just say 'turn on/off device' right? Or need to wait for future update like logitech harmony app? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 04:47 PM) ozak btw the Sonoff uses Cloud but it once you set it, if your Internet down, and you already set the schedule, it will continue to follow the set schedule cause all the timing is inside Sonoff. Now I know why it at cloud. That sonoff device have only 8bit of memory. Very little.You just cant use your smartphone to trigger it |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 11:16 PM) Now I know why it at cloud. That sonoff device have only 8bit of memory. Very little. 1MB only.....enough la to do what its suppose to do.... |
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if i am not lazy, i think i can fix one of these Sonoff above my ceiling board for some of my downlights that I want to control.....
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 08:06 AM) 1MB only.....enough la to do what its suppose to do.... I don't no how much require memory to store.This superhouse guy geng. He is genuines. Solve my power supply problem. According to him, this sonoff only have 8bit that too little. He change the memory to 32bit which only cost RM1. Easy to change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mz5sCAvDAY |
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 8 2017, 09:47 AM) I don't no how much require memory to store. https://www.google.com/search?client=safari...=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8This superhouse guy geng. He is genuines. Solve my power supply problem. According to him, this sonoff only have 8bit that too little. He change the memory to 32bit which only cost RM1. Easy to change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mz5sCAvDAY 8 megabits = 1MB This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 8 2017, 10:05 AM |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 7 2017, 10:29 PM) Saw that weeks back, hopefully comes out soon since they did say it'll be out after cny. if you group the ewelink device, then u just rename the group and tell it to turn on or off will doBtw, if add device in alexa group, can skip 'tell ewelink to turn on/off device' and just say 'turn on/off device' right? Or need to wait for future update like logitech harmony app? thats how i think it works la |
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I would like to know the way to link alexa with broadlink rm2pro, option 1. Android tv box + RM bridge app or option 2. Android tv box + rm tasker app , which one better & any 3rd option? If the answer is on previous post plz kindly show me. 😅
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There is cheaper voice control, alexa echo dot. Is the voice control as good as alexa echo & able to link to broadlink like its brother?
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Feb 8 2017, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 8 2017, 02:24 PM) There is cheaper voice control, alexa echo dot. Is the voice control as good as alexa echo & able to link to broadlink like its brother? I'm using one now and yes you can link to broadlink rm using rm tasker app. Another is pairing broadlink rm with home assistant(can be installed on pc/mac/rpi) which can be controlled using alexa I don't have the taller amazon echo but from the reviews it's pretty much the same except that it's missing more powerful speaker and built in battery. I've only used option 2, so far so good and easy to setup Maybe I'll try the bridge app later |
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 8 2017, 11:50 AM) if you group the ewelink device, then u just rename the group and tell it to turn on or off will do That's how expect it should work alsothats how i think it works la Gonna have to wait till official firmware update |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 05:46 PM) I'm using one now and yes you can link to broadlink rm using rm tasker app. I read some post that mention tasker is less stable & may require to reset the slept off android tv box sometimes. Do u hv this problem? Another is pairing broadlink rm with home assistant(can be installed on pc/mac/rpi) which can be controlled using alexa I don't have the taller amazon echo but from the reviews it's pretty much the same except that it's missing more powerful speaker and built in battery. I've only used option 2, so far so good and easy to setup Maybe I'll try the bridge app later Which android tv box u use? There is many android tv @ taobao from rm100-250. Dont know which one better, coz worry the android tv turn into sleep or standby mode affect the bridge If use pc as bridge, home assistant, pc need to turn on 24hours right? |
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Feb 8 2017, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 05:46 PM) I'm using one now and yes you can link to broadlink rm using rm tasker app. Another is pairing broadlink rm with home assistant(can be installed on pc/mac/rpi) which can be controlled using alexa I don't have the taller amazon echo but from the reviews it's pretty much the same except that it's missing more powerful speaker and built in battery. I've only used option 2, so far so good and easy to setup Maybe I'll try the bridge app later 
Do u think this cheap android tv box will work? I plan to source echo dot from taobao rmb 470, broadlink rm pro rmb 170 Tc2 switch which taobao brand looks solid in quality n build? This post has been edited by luvox: Feb 8 2017, 06:29 PM |
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Feb 8 2017, 06:31 PM
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echo dots just buy from BHPhotos
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Feb 8 2017, 06:43 PM
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Is there any option of smoke detector sensor that can trigger alarm for broadlink?
Start to worry fire. 😂 coz dont know how reliable this china smart home system products |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 06:31 PM) echo dots just buy from BHPhotos Air freight? No custom tax?postage only $6 US to malaysia postage usd 6 ? This post has been edited by luvox: Feb 8 2017, 06:47 PM |
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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 8 2017, 06:18 PM) I read some post that mention tasker is less stable & may require to reset the slept off android tv box sometimes. Do u hv this problem? I'm gonna try using android box this weekend, see how stable it will beWhich android tv box u use? There is many android tv @ taobao from rm100-250. Dont know which one better, coz worry the android tv turn into sleep or standby mode affect the bridge If use pc as bridge, home assistant, pc need to turn on 24hours right? Was doing test using my hp as bridge It's all about os I guess as long as app stays running in the background, since you only need one as bridge, no need buy box that's too expensive Yeah, so better if you install on something that consumes low power like raspberry pi Which I intend to try also soon, not to mention you can install android os too on rpi. |
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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 8 2017, 06:45 PM) Air freight? No custom tax? Yes but that's almost same price as taobaoUS to malaysia postage usd 6 ? If you are ordering other things just order all from taobao better Dunno got Custom duty or not. By DHL Saver |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 06:31 PM) echo dots just buy from BHPhotos BPPhotos NY, really? Or need to use consolidate service like ezbuy buy from us or others too?postage only $6 |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 07:07 PM) BPPhotos NY, really? Or need to use consolidate service like ezbuy buy from us or others too? Direct from bhphotos |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 07:08 PM) Direct from bhphotos Oh so they support international shipping? Total how much did it cost for you and how long was the postage?This post has been edited by alucard89: Feb 8 2017, 07:10 PM |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 07:10 PM) Oh so they support international shipping? Total how much did it cost for you and how long was the postage? 10-15 days. This is what their website says. I did not order Echo Dots  |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 07:17 PM) 10-15 days. This is what their website says. I did not order Echo Dots Ok, thanks for the suggestions[img][/img] Can you estimate what are the taxes that might get charged on this? |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 07:30 PM) Ok, thanks for the suggestions Dunno. If order one maybe no taxCan you estimate what are the taxes that might get charged on this? |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 07:36 PM) Dunno. If order one maybe no tax It's not cellular device for one and also not above rm500 for gst. I'll try buying one, hopefully no other charges. Probably the best offer now with not so expensive shipping charge |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 07:43 PM) It's not cellular device for one and also not above rm500 for gst. You try first let me know 😅I'll try buying one, hopefully no other charges. Probably the best offer now with not so expensive shipping charge |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 07:49 PM) You try first let me know 😅 haha... u suggested it but ask us to try to buy n c the custom tax. i thought u own echo dot. if no tax it is way cheaper than taobao. who can confirm this? coz plan to get it soon.taobao no tax for sea freight which i used to it |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 07:06 PM) I'm gonna try using android box this weekend, see how stable it will be Do i need to know basic programming language to operate or install android onto rpi?Was doing test using my hp as bridge It's all about os I guess as long as app stays running in the background, since you only need one as bridge, no need buy box that's too expensive Yeah, so better if you install on something that consumes low power like raspberry pi Which I intend to try also soon, not to mention you can install android os too on rpi. U let the tasker run at your android phone background 24/7?? Will ur phone battery drain fast? I hv one galaxy tab first generation which i keep it sleeping in drawer. How fast this bridge app drain the battery? I dont like to charge my galaxy tab daily which i will not touch it. Feel like android box less hassle If android phone used as bridge, do we need to keep to android phone on same wifi network to function or can bring the phone around under telco network? |
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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 8 2017, 08:44 PM) haha... u suggested it but ask us to try to buy n c the custom tax. i thought u own echo dot. if no tax it is way cheaper than taobao. who can confirm this? coz plan to get it soon. taobao no tax for sea freight which i used to it |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 7 2017, 12:21 PM) My Sonoff finally arrived! Weird thing is SF-Express sent it to me from Sweden via normal Swedish Post so Pos Malaysia delivers it. Its like they gave up and use the airmail ....lol this thing the custom tax not?Anyway, the Sonoff is quite small, seen here side by side a portable HDD Installing it is also very simple - just two inputs L & N and two outputs. One thing I feel is the terminal block is rather weak. Its soldered into the board but when you tightened the screws, the block will move a bit to one side. I worry that the solder connection may break and may cause some arcing. This can be solved by taking off the cover and hold the terminal block down while you tightened the screws. I installed two Sonoff for 1 table lamp and the other I installed it in an extension cord. On this extension cord, I have three other small table lamps. So one Sonoff will control all three lamps and whatever else I plug into this extension. For the extension, I did not cut the Earth wire but route it inside the Sonoff box - Only adjustment is that you have to cut a bit of the top cover (see pics) Just make sure all the wires are clear of the screw holes for the two side covers. The two side covers will hold the wire in place, it has some teeth. Extension Finished - The other single table lamp - |
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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 8 2017, 09:01 PM) this thing the custom tax not? No tax. My purchase only total to $28 (including postage) so no tax |
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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 8 2017, 08:51 PM) Do i need to know basic programming language to operate or install android onto rpi? I was using spare phone, so the battery pretty much last the whole day since I didn't use anything else on itU let the tasker run at your android phone background 24/7?? Will ur phone battery drain fast? I hv one galaxy tab first generation which i keep it sleeping in drawer. How fast this bridge app drain the battery? I dont like to charge my galaxy tab daily which i will not touch it. Feel like android box less hassle If android phone used as bridge, do we need to keep to android phone on same wifi network to function or can bring the phone around under telco network? If you don't want to overcharge the tablet all the time,you could try using smart plug/plug with timer that turns on charging every 4-3 hours/day like that So far need to use same wifi network Also, for tc2 switch, there are also other touch wall switch rf alternative in taobao. It's just that I'm a bit hesitant to buy more of it since there's no separate on/off button for the wall switch like remote fans. Which is where wifi wall switch comes in, there's a bunch out there using their own app of course Itead also has wifi wall switch, that's controlled with their ewelink app that should be supported by alexa this month For the rpi, it's pretty easy to setup/install os. For setting up homeassistant, you might need to go through their wiki/youtube videos for detailed instruction This post has been edited by alucard89: Feb 8 2017, 09:13 PM |
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I used to order many stuff from B&H especially lens and camera, never kena tax.
I already have two Echo dot. one will be place at my master bed room. 2nd one living room. maybe i should get two more for kitchen and my home office. too bad the sales is over used to be 40 during bf/Christmas time. |
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 8 2017, 09:17 PM) I used to order many stuff from B&H especially lens and camera, never kena tax. Wah, thanks for confirmationI already have two Echo dot. one will be place at my master bed room. 2nd one living room. maybe i should get two more for kitchen and my home office. too bad the sales is over used to be 40 during bf/Christmas time. No tax even for orders above rm500? Or do you request their shop to declare lower value? So the had sales too on their shop? Thought it was only on amazon |
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 8 2017, 09:05 PM) No tax. My purchase only total to $28 (including postage) so no tax Maybe is cheaper to buy them through Taobao. i m deciding how many i might need for them,i think they are better alternative compare to braodlink which uses RF.I read their reviews, many people complaint that it break down easily. Reliability might be an issue. For your setup. i think is better to get a electrical safety switch box to cover the module and glue the cables., it is not safe laying out like that. if some body accidentally pull the cable, it might get disconnected. something like this https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....ucket=20#detail Regards Ian |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 09:20 PM) Wah, thanks for confirmation Camera equipment memang no tax. Now after GST I dunno la but last time before GST, never kena tax order photographic equipment. No tax even for orders above rm500? Or do you request their shop to declare lower value? So the had sales too on their shop? Thought it was only on amazon BH won't simply declare lower value wan. |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 09:20 PM) Wah, thanks for confirmation that was like 4 years back, camera stuff was tax free before the sales tax hit。 but i even order some recorder stuff and tapes all mostly above 500.No tax even for orders above rm500? Or do you request their shop to declare lower value? So the had sales too on their shop? Thought it was only on amazon now i usually ship to Singapore and hand carry back since is tax free for 400SGD |
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Feb 8 2017, 09:09 PM) I was using spare phone, so the battery pretty much last the whole day since I didn't use anything else on it Thanks for the suggestion, scheduled charging device for galaxy tab If you don't want to overcharge the tablet all the time,you could try using smart plug/plug with timer that turns on charging every 4-3 hours/day like that So far need to use same wifi network Also, for tc2 switch, there are also other touch wall switch rf alternative in taobao. It's just that I'm a bit hesitant to buy more of it since there's no separate on/off button for the wall switch like remote fans. Which is where wifi wall switch comes in, there's a bunch out there using their own app of course Itead also has wifi wall switch, that's controlled with their ewelink app that should be supported by alexa this month For the rpi, it's pretty easy to setup/install os. For setting up homeassistant, you might need to go through their wiki/youtube videos for detailed instruction I read the same issue that u mention, tc2 no seperate on off switch to control fan. But i dont understand whats the problem with fan control. Can explain in detail? Do u mean tc2 switch use same single command for on&off, broadlink wont know tc2 switch on off status? This is wat i guess wat u mean |
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 8 2017, 09:32 PM) that was like 4 years back, camera stuff was tax free before the sales tax hit。 but i even order some recorder stuff and tapes all mostly above 500. If worst senario happens, how much will be the tax? Jz wanna get mentally prepared. Hahanow i usually ship to Singapore and hand carry back since is tax free for 400SGD |
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QUOTE(luvox @ Feb 8 2017, 09:56 PM) If worst senario happens, how much will be the tax? Jz wanna get mentally prepared. Haha Anything under rm500 got no tax but if they kwailan, just charge you 6% for GST on your total order plus postagefongsum buy la 😁 This post has been edited by idoblu: Feb 8 2017, 10:02 PM |
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QUOTE(ianlti @ Feb 8 2017, 09:29 PM) Maybe is cheaper to buy them through Taobao. i m deciding how many i might need for them,i think they are better alternative compare to braodlink which uses RF. You mean Broadlink or Sonoff not reliable? Broadlink right?I read their reviews, many people complaint that it break down easily. Reliability might be an issue. For your setup. i think is better to get a electrical safety switch box to cover the module and glue the cables., it is not safe laying out like that. if some body accidentally pull the cable, it might get disconnected. something like this https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....ucket=20#detail Regards Ian |
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