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 Fire Extinguisher for Home use, What is recommended?

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ozak
post Jan 23 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Jan 23 2017, 09:48 AM)

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It just a adv demo. Doesn't tell me anything.

The bad fact is overwhelm the good.

Actually I brought aerosol type before. Back 17yrs ago. Before you know it exist.

The shelf life is only 2yrs. By the yrs 6 (I m lazy to replace it), I try to squeeze, there is no more pressure inside.
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post Jan 23 2017, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 23 2017, 09:57 AM)
It just a adv demo. Doesn't tell me anything.

The bad fact is overwhelm the good.

Actually I brought aerosol type before. Back 17yrs ago. Before you know it exist.

The shelf life is only 2yrs. By the yrs 6 (I m lazy to replace it), I try to squeeze, there is no more pressure inside.
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The reusable one will loose pressure over time.

Those disposable type can last longer. It is like opening a can, once you break it, you have to finish it.

Aerosol fire extinguisher is more suitable for home and personal usage. Even though it also started to gain popularity in industry and military.
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post Jan 23 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Jan 23 2017, 10:02 AM)
The reusable one will loose pressure over time.

Those disposable type can last longer. It is like opening a can, once you break it, you have to finish it.

Aerosol fire extinguisher is more suitable for home and personal usage. Even though it also started to gain popularity in industry and military.
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The reuseable can tell me the pressure is still good or not. By checking the gauge.

If pressure low, I can bring it to refill that doesn't cost me much.

So the refilling method still cost me less in a long run.

For the aerosol type, I don't no is it good or not in the shelf. By the time I need it, it probably in low pressure. It don't have the gauge to tell me.

The only reason I want to get the aerosol type is to put inside my car. Cause the refill type is too big store under the car seat.

But not for my home.


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post Jan 23 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 23 2017, 10:16 AM)
The reuseable can tell me the pressure is still good or not. By checking the gauge.

If pressure low, I can bring it to refill that doesn't cost me much.

So the refilling method still cost me less in a long run.

For the aerosol type, I don't no is it good or not in the shelf. By the time I need it, it probably in low pressure. It don't have the gauge to tell me.

The only reason I want to get the aerosol type is to put inside my car. Cause the refill type is too big store under the car seat.

But not for my home.
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You need to check the gauge, some needs to be certified as well. It is really a hassle for average home user.

The disposable type can easily last 10 years. When it is expired just buy a new one.
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post Jan 23 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(CKKwan @ Jan 23 2017, 10:25 AM)
You need to check the gauge, some needs to be certified as well. It is really a hassle for average home user.

The disposable type can easily last 10 years. When it is expired just buy a new one.
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You don't have proof.

You don't have fact.

You don't have experience.

And it is a joke to just check the gauge and you called hassle.
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post Jan 23 2017, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 23 2017, 10:33 AM)
You don't have proof. 

You don't have fact.

You don't have experience.

And it is a joke to just check the gauge and you called hassle.
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I gave you the video link. There are many more studies, in fact I have seen it in action in one of the military exhibition.

You are based on your 17 years out dated experience right?


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post Jan 26 2017, 11:55 AM

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Which wan is better for car ?

The small wan can put below the seat.

The 1kg must be put behind the trunk.

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post Jan 26 2017, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 26 2017, 11:55 AM)
Which wan is better for car ?

The small wan can put below the seat.

The 1kg must be put behind the trunk.

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I would avoid putting it in the trunk.

Also.... make sure its a GOOD brand... cause our cars get VERY hot when parked under the sun... my fren had a gas cannister which exploded in the trunk and embedded itself halfway thru the backseat...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 26 2017, 11:59 AM)
I would avoid putting it in the trunk.

Also.... make sure its a GOOD brand... cause our cars get VERY hot when parked under the sun... my fren had a gas cannister which exploded in the trunk and embedded itself halfway thru the backseat...
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The 1kg is safe to put in the trunk compare to the gas canister. Very much different from the safety design and the storing material.

And it already been age for such type of fire extinguisher in the trunk.

But I have a dilemma which is more useful when need it.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 26 2017, 12:05 PM)
The 1kg is safe to put in the trunk compare to the gas canister. Very much different from the safety design and the storing material.

And it already been age for such type of fire extinguisher in the trunk.

But I have a dilemma which is more useful when need it.
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I avoid trunk not about its exploding, its about accessibility... cabin would be much easier to access.

Best would be in a position where u can access even if you are pinned in the car...

In the same vein... I have a very nice knife with belt cutter and carbide window breaker within easy access as well. (dont get a STEEL window breaker... it doesnt work and you wont have the leverage to make it work).

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 26 2017, 12:08 PM)
I avoid trunk not about its exploding, its about accessibility... cabin would be much easier to access.
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Thanks. I would think that too.

Since I can place it at the bottom of the seat, I can access it faster and nearer. But such fire extinguisher is limited capacity.

Compare to 1kg, which have higher capacity, but no place for the front.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 26 2017, 11:55 AM)
Which wan is better for car ?

The small wan can put below the seat.

The 1kg must be put behind the
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Buy this one la
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...re+extinguisher
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post Jan 26 2017, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 26 2017, 12:59 PM)
Crazy that price.

And after that short expired date, I got to throw it away.

Ace got selling.


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post Jan 26 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 26 2017, 01:45 PM)
Crazy that price.

And after that short expired date, I got to throw it away.

Ace got selling.
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How much?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 26 2017, 01:50 PM)
How much?
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Want to buy 2 more. But sold out jor. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 26 2017, 01:45 PM)
Crazy that price.

And after that short expired date, I got to throw it away.

Ace got selling.
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ACE usually sell stuff at a premium de....
ozak
post Feb 7 2017, 11:47 AM

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Four in a family killed in fire

PETALING JAYA: Just days after holding a Chinese New Year reunion dinner, a couple and their two sons were killed in a blaze, choked by smoke when they were trapped by the iron grille on the windows of their house.

The body of Lim Ah Kok, 58, was found with those of his two sons, Lim Yong Liang, 20, and Lim Yong Wei, 17, in the second room on the upper floor of a double storey terrace house in Jalan USJ 2/3, Subang Jaya.

His wife Goh Bee Khim, 51, was found in the bathroom of the master bedroom.

The couple’s eldest daughter, Lim Yi Jun, 23, was not home as she is staying near her college in Cheras.

The family’s two dogs survived the fire.

It is believed that Lim could have rushed to wake up his sons in the next room before they all succumbed to the smoke.

The early morning blaze yesterday was believed to have been sparked by a short circuit on the ground floor.

Neighbours who heard the screams from the house had alerted firemen, who reached the scene in 10 minutes upon receiving a call at 5.34am.

However, by then, the fire was too big.

Selangor Fire and Rescue Depart­ment assis­tant director (operations) Mohd Sani Harul said the firemen had problems trying to enter the house as the front gate was locked.

“We had to cut the autogate’s lock,” he said.

Another team, added Mohd Sani, managed to get onto the roof of the house through a neighbour’s house to bring the blaze under control and keep it from spreading.

It is learnt that the firemen managed to rescue the dogs, one of which was kept in the house and was found with its fur blackened by the thick smoke.

Subang Jaya OCPD Asst Comm Mohammad Azlin Sadari said a post-mortem showed that the couple and their sons had died from smoke inhalation, adding that their bodies were not burnt by the fire.

The cause of the fire was still under investigation but he did not rule out the possibility of short circuit.

“We believe that the fire started downstairs, because the victims appeared to be trapped upstairs,” he told reporters at the scene.

Police, he said, believed that Lim had been trying to alert his sons as their bodies were found in the same room.

The family, added ACP Moham­mad Azlin, was believed to have been trapped in by the iron grille on the windows.

He urged the public to ensure that they only installed those which could be opened during emergencies.

The funeral for the four victims is expected to be held in Butterworth
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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 7 2017, 11:47 AM)
Trapped by iron grill windows, they might be ok if they have fire extinguisher.
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 7 2017, 11:51 AM)
Trapped by iron grill windows, they might be ok if they have fire extinguisher.
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Iron grill.. double edged sword.

But I dont understand ppl who dont atleast install an unlocked portion of the grill.... wanna save cost?
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Feb 7 2017, 11:51 AM)
Trapped by iron grill windows, they might be ok if they have fire extinguisher.
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Kill by smoke. Fire extinguisher can't help.

They probably can survive if have the smoke detector. Cause when a person in sleep, hearing is more sensitive than others sense in your body.

And some basic knowledge of fire escape.

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