hi guys. i want to ask for your opinion.

if i were to accept a 1-year contract with Shell SBSC, is it advisable? will the contract be renewed, or in the end SBSC also closed down after a year and it will be hard to find job again?

please advise your opinion

which department?how is the offer compared to your current offer?
If you have a good job now why jump in these tough economic times.

because i haven't got good job now
it's for SAP support role. haven't got result yet, so don't know how the remuneration package is.

further read
if u dont mind joining a sinking ship, by all means go ahead.
if u are still young, u may try
if u like to job hop, its definitely a good place because 1 year later definitely u need to find new job again
jobs which can outsourced to india means that what u doing now are no different with the india ppl can do, easily replaceable.

If jobless, why not? Gain experience first.
But make sure you look for other jobs for the time being.

Basically you under estimated what westerner's think.
They are more racist than what you can imagine.
They are treating Asians as pigs.
They are leaving Malaysia as we are no more a loyal dog to them and demanding higher pay.
What they want is loyal dogs that will follow their demand.
Just go and work in their country and you will understand me.

elaborate more pls

Are you sure you are working in a MNC

yes but i don't feel the things u told me before. so i am curious

Then suggest you go out of Malaysia and work in other locations
Then you will understands.

heh. u might as well dont need to say anything.

If they really value your contribution, why they want to close Cyberjaya down?

errmmm.....because it is business?

In case you don't know, Cyber is a support location. For any supporting function, the strategy to pursue is low cost process efficiency. That has always been the case.

If there is another location that is cheaper, then it doesn't make sense to pay more for supporting functions.

What you have said so far is just a whole lot of baloney........you say orang putih racist but can only support that by pointing out why they don't value the cyber folks. Yet at the same time, you demonstrated a deficient understanding of business operation. So please stop with this nonsense.

This post has been edited by feynman: Apr 12 2015, 07:59 PM

That's why i said, get out of Malaysia and work with them first unless you still want to be a village hero.
Royal dutch are dumping 70 billion to buy another company in London, a bailing out.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/shell-bg-merge...asia-1428676146
They are protecting their same skin but don't bother on others.

What;s the problem with this? Don't see the connection here. How does closing down cyber and proceeding with this merger got to do with racist orang putih?

There isn't a problem about this merger....it's about creating value. As a listed company, the board of directors and the C-suite are driven to deliver returns to shareholders. The execs believe that through this, value can be created. You may disagree but it is their heads that are on the table if they can't deliver the returns.

Guess what? you can extract value if you purchase stocks of Shell. How is this racist?

All the same, you still can't demonstrate what's so wrong about this. Show where you have been treated like pigs? Show where you have been treated like a dog?

On what basis are you saying what you have said in your first post? If you are just spouting this nonsense because they are closing it down, then sorry, you don't understand how business works. Period. Shell like any other company is not a charity, they are not here to feed you in case you didn't know. They are here to delivery value to their shareholders.

This post has been edited by feynman: Apr 12 2015, 08:36 PM

Well, if you are 1 of the 900 staffs that get affected, will you still says the same rubbish?

With this, are you admitting that you are one of the impacted employees?

Well, I'm sorry this is going to happen to you.

I can tell you this, I will still say this same 'rubbish' because I am not under no false illusion that Shell owes me a job.

Many people fail to realise that we live in a capitalist society. The objective of the corporation is to create wealth for the shareholders. You tak suka, you boleh pergi Cuba. You get the same wage no matter what you do. The moment you think that the company owes you something, that they are indebted to you, how bloody wrong you are.

Everybody is dispensable.

How do you avoid this then? Make yourself indispensable. When was the last time you acquired a new skill? When was the last time you acquired some new knowledge?

It is only prudent to constantly monitor what exit opportunities at any one time, it is also smart to monitor where your employing company is heading, you should be able to tell if your ship is sinking and if you have not made plans to jump, then you have yourself to blame.

Don't ever think that the company will be there for you forever, there is no such nonsense. You get paid for the work you do, they are not obligated to pay you for a work that they can get someone else to do or if they no longer require your service because of new technology or whatever. It's not a charity.

So take this as a lesson. Go find a new job, go acquire a new skill at the same time. Don't ever invest your feelings in the company unless it is your own.

This post has been edited by feynman: Apr 12 2015, 09:16 PM

Sorry, I'm not 1 of them.
If the economy are really bad and they start retrenchment, then I can't say anything. But if "cutting" here and there then waste a big chunk of money, then is not good.
Hope your current company will flush you out for being talk rubbish

That is why you are not and will never be a C-suite executive.

Well, worry about your position first before you proceed with more spewing more drivel.

Yes this is so true, in western countries especially european (west) they have such tight labor laws so their employees are paid higher, if they outsource to Malaysia they save so much, India even more..