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SUSsupersound
post Mar 18 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:20 PM)
i heard there is this redundant scheme.....but don't expect so much
Yeah....don't understand why they prefer to sold the assets to save cost and improve cash flow but on the other hand spend unnecessary fund for HSSE and some rubbish crapz
pity those from SRC, Geelong, etc....
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SRC is still there what biggrin.gif
Why, they want to sell also? that's interesting.
2malaysia
post Mar 18 2015, 09:26 PM

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I think Shell Malaysia Trading and other Shell companies in Malaysia is not doing well the last 3 years.
I estimated up to 10% reduction in their downstream fuel and lub business. With the global slump in oil prices, their once
money machine upstream business will also be greatly affected in the next 5 years where oil prices will go down to as low
as USD35/barrel for prolong period. it is inevitable that they need to cut cost and find the best brain in their IT centre doing mainly Enterprise Resource Planning Work.


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post Mar 18 2015, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 18 2015, 09:22 PM)
SRC is still there what biggrin.gif
Why, they want to sell also? that's interesting.
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sorry i read wrongly...old email from comm, structured reviewed only...
but hei....you won't know right?


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post Mar 18 2015, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:30 PM)
sorry i read wrongly...old email from comm, structured reviewed only...
but hei....you won't know right?
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I'm not Shell employee how do I know?

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post Mar 18 2015, 09:37 PM

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i mean....u won't know Shell will start kantoi their staff in future....
currently we are downsizing and hopefully i can still keep my job till end of this year at current bad economic times sad.gif
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:40 PM

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An O&G company with so many staffs that doing things not related to O&G. No wonder they failed.
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:37 PM)
i mean....u won't know Shell will start kantoi their staff in future....
currently we are downsizing and hopefully i can still keep my job till end of this year at current bad economic times  sad.gif
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not only downstream affected, upstream people all takut now, with PSC expiring looming over in next 2 months.
QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 18 2015, 09:40 PM)
An O&G company with so many staffs that doing things not related to O&G. No wonder they failed.
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with all the funny paperwork creeping up (managing safety kunun) even less time to actually do the necessary work
come new person, implement new system & we have to comply bla bla bla..then the cycle repeats again.


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post Mar 18 2015, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:37 PM)
i mean....u won't know Shell will start kantoi their staff in future....
currently we are downsizing and hopefully i can still keep my job till end of this year at current bad economic times  sad.gif
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Lets be prepared for the worst, I have a bleak outlook for O & G sector in specific and Malaysia business in general.
Shell Retail business has also been bad for many years. NGV vehicles are here and electric cars will also emerge soon.

What SRC said in the letter is to close the refinery and turn it into only storage if refining margin and sales drop, that would
means the capacity is less than 80% and every barrel of crude oil SRC refine end up in loss. The cost reduction SRC mentioned
means the marketing and business support side, then comes the assets sales (like unused equipment and unprofitable Petrol
stations) then refining operation. If you are non technical staff, like the business mgmt side you are vulnerable.

Health, Safety, Security and the Environment HSSE is needed to show the managers are at work in a otherwise
very quiet / little new work then just doing the routines.

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post Mar 18 2015, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(speedfamgirl @ Mar 18 2015, 11:17 PM)
not only downstream affected, upstream people all takut now, with PSC expiring looming over in next 2 months.

with all the funny paperwork creeping up (managing safety kunun) even less time to actually do the necessary work
come new person, implement new system & we have to comply bla bla bla..then the cycle repeats again.
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I never work in MNC like Shell but some of these Shell people I meet always are only confine themselves with
very limited scope of work. I think they have a very specific skills which I find hard to understand in terms of
getting the ultimate job done or saving time.

I think managing people is what all these paperwork is about. How to make the staff work safer, given the higer
knowledge and skills of Shell staff, how to make them actually work for the company and not on other things like
doing things the staff like to do etc..
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post Mar 18 2015, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(2malaysia @ Mar 18 2015, 11:49 PM)
I never work in MNC like Shell but some of these Shell people I meet always are only confine themselves with
very limited scope of work. I think they have a very specific skills which I find hard to understand in terms of
getting the ultimate job done or saving time.

I think managing people is what all these paperwork is about. How to make the staff work safer, given the higer
knowledge and skills of Shell staff, how to make them actually work for the company and not on other things like
doing things the staff like to do etc..
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ya i know the importance of safety, as they always said safety is their top priority.
doing safety audits regularly together with normal operational reporting is fine...but as you said, managers have nothing to do so they impose a new way of managing safety & imposing them to the operations people which mostly are occupied with their routine of keeping the plant running safely.

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post Mar 19 2015, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 18 2015, 09:31 AM)
Using Shell indicator but paid by HP whistling.gif
HP also a failed company.
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actually those 'shell' staff only exist in facebook. Their own company throw them out, but in facebook still loyal to Shell eventhough paycheck is from HP tongue.gif

i also heard that when HP decided to cut the bullshit with these staff, they wanted to mogok and find lawyer to sue HP

how stupid can these morons be. Shell already throw them out, and they dare to fight the hand that feeds


serve them right!
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post Mar 19 2015, 12:14 AM

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So, the end of high paying O&G jobs are here?
I heard BP retrenched a lot people in their bangsar south office also right?

How about Petronas, Petron and Esso Mobil? Any bad news so far?
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post Mar 19 2015, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 19 2015, 12:02 AM)
actually those 'shell' staff only exist in facebook. Their own company throw them out, but in facebook still loyal to Shell eventhough paycheck is from HP tongue.gif

i also heard that when HP decided to cut the bullshit with these staff, they wanted to mogok and find lawyer to sue HP

how stupid can these morons be. Shell already throw them out, and they dare to fight the hand that feeds
serve them right!
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Well, what you can expect from them? Join only already getting rm7000-9000, 800 staffs, with average of rm15000 per person, you do the maths. Selling O&G products or IT company whistling.gif

QUOTE(lightwerker @ Mar 19 2015, 12:14 AM)
So, the end of high paying O&G jobs are here?
I heard BP retrenched a lot people in their bangsar south office also right?

How about Petronas, Petron and Esso Mobil? Any bad news so far?
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Most likely, if the price don't return back to 70.
Petron are going to expand, so unlikely. ESSO Mobil already history, so staffs in KL are waiting for time.
Petronas sure won't, since 95% are Malays. It is more on securing votes during GE, same like MAS.
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i heard that BASF and Colgate SC also retrench a lot people?
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post Mar 19 2015, 03:49 PM

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BASF-PETRONAS Chemicals only downscale its Shared Service division at KL, not for its plant operation at Gebeng.
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post Mar 19 2015, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(chuan_81 @ Mar 19 2015, 03:09 PM)
i heard that BASF and Colgate SC also retrench a lot people?
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Why Colgate retrenched? My ex colleagues all said Colgate is retirement place wor!
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post Mar 19 2015, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Riezlange @ Mar 19 2015, 08:25 PM)
Why Colgate retrenched? My ex colleagues all said Colgate is retirement place wor!
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Nowadays no job are secured, except those are cheating to earn a living field like insurance, property, fund agents whistling.gif
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post Mar 20 2015, 12:18 PM

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Wow. I hope I never meet or become a person like supersound. Such an angry, pessimistic, hateful person smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2015, 12:22 PM

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Haiz, Malaysia everyday retrench people. Last time during the Shell big restructuring, lots of their IT staff move to PETRONAS, exxon, BHP etc. Now those companies also freeze hiring and are also starting their retrenchment programs, where these 850 staff gonna go now?
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post Mar 20 2015, 02:23 PM

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I suppose this initiative will only affect the IT Function, not others in SBSC?

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