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Vinci777
post Apr 13 2015, 01:42 AM

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Convert the Malaysians shells employee payroll to Indian employees payrol. Let's c whether it's racist or business. The Malaysian employees would probably resign automatically. It's all about the business. Shared services center is all about cost saving. That's the reason they do it in cyber in the first place until they decided during this oil crisis that Indians could probably do the same job with lower operations cost than Malaysia. Sad but true that we have to constantly improve our value especially those in IT line becos India is stealing your rice bowl.
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post Apr 13 2015, 05:47 AM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Apr 12 2015, 11:41 AM)
further read
if u dont mind joining a sinking ship, by all means go ahead.
if u are still young, u may try
if u like to job hop, its definitely a good place because 1 year later definitely u need to find new job again
jobs which can outsourced to india means that what u doing now are no different with the india ppl can do, easily replaceable.
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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Apr 13 2015, 01:42 AM)
Convert the Malaysians shells employee payroll to Indian employees payrol. Let's c whether it's racist or business. The Malaysian employees would probably resign automatically. It's all about the business. Shared services center is all about cost saving. That's the reason they do it in cyber in the first place until they decided during this oil crisis that Indians could probably do the same job with lower operations cost than Malaysia. Sad but true that we have to constantly improve our value especially those in IT line becos India is stealing your rice bowl.
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hm..duly noted hmm.gif

thank u notworthy.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Apr 13 2015, 01:03 AM)
Yes this is so true, in western countries especially european (west) they have such tight labor laws so their employees are paid higher, if they outsource to Malaysia they save so much, India even more..
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Nah, outsource to other countries are just to create a fake situation and create a branding.
Not to say they have tight labor laws in their own country, basically they are lazy and stupid.
And to justify that they are racist, you can see out of 30 their top management post does not have any Asians.
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post Apr 13 2015, 07:01 PM

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So Shell Cyberjaya closing down now? blink.gif
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post Apr 13 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Jack Wilshere 10 @ Apr 13 2015, 07:01 PM)
So Shell Cyberjaya closing down now? blink.gif
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Not yet, still got other services. But sending local HP staffs to rubbish bin plan are there doh.gif
From the day when Shell sold off their HQ in Damansara already a good sign that Shell will do anything to safeguard their interest, rather than employee's interest.
They willing to keep 1 million dollar sleeping manager but they won't bother on life or dead of 1000 front liners.
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post Apr 13 2015, 09:20 PM

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apart from SAP, what ERP does shell uses?
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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 13 2015, 08:54 PM)
Not yet, still got other services. But sending local HP staffs to rubbish bin plan are there doh.gif
From the day when Shell sold off their HQ in Damansara already a good sign that Shell will do anything to safeguard their interest, rather than employee's interest.
They willing to keep 1 million dollar sleeping manager but they won't bother on life or dead of 1000 front liners.
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Luckily i din't accept Shell Cyberjaya offer last time.
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post Apr 14 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Jack Wilshere 10 @ Apr 14 2015, 07:09 AM)
Luckily i din't accept Shell Cyberjaya offer last time.
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10-20 years ago, Shell maybe is a good place to work, but not now.
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post Apr 14 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 14 2015, 09:10 AM)
10-20 years ago, Shell maybe is a good place to work, but not now.
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No wonder 100 graduate employer always never include Shell brows.gif
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post Apr 14 2015, 04:25 PM

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No wonder 100 graduate employer always never include Shell brows.gif
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Sure got the reason as the working atmosphere are changed over the years.
That's why they are giving "high" salary to attract people. But then after take people, they start to do retrenchment.
Not to mention the office politics inside, on par with our politics, complicated.
And with current economy downturn, they will protect their own ars first rather than our ars.
Shell been selling their assets for the past 5 years to make their record nice. But with the money saved, still not enough 1 time wastage of buying another problematic O&G company for 70B dollars.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 14 2015, 04:25 PM)
Sure got the reason as the working atmosphere are changed over the years.
That's why they are giving "high" salary to attract people. But then after take people, they start to do retrenchment.
Not to mention the office politics inside, on par with our politics, complicated.
And with current economy downturn, they will protect their own ars first rather than our ars.
Shell been selling their assets for the past 5 years to make their record nice. But with the money saved, still not enough 1 time wastage of buying another problematic O&G company for 70B dollars.
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what company they bought?

i highly suspect u are shell staff. u should be grateful u got to work with the best employer in msia.
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post Apr 14 2015, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Apr 14 2015, 04:42 PM)
what company they bought?

i highly suspect u are shell staff. u should be grateful u got to work with the best employer in msia.
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Is all came out in the news, not a secret.
As said before, try working overseas first and you will understand why I dare to generalize those mat salleh are racist arsholes shocking.gif

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post Apr 14 2015, 06:09 PM

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I'm kinda agreed with supersound comments in this thread. Its true.
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post Apr 14 2015, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Apr 14 2015, 06:09 PM)
I'm kinda agreed with supersound comments in this thread. Its true.
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That's why I said, MNC does not mean is good.
And when we working as contractor, it will be more obvious on not getting respected.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 14 2015, 05:34 PM)
Is all came out in the news, not a secret.
As said before, try working overseas first and you will understand why I dare to generalize those mat salleh are racist arsholes shocking.gif
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u must be working in shell b4
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post Apr 14 2015, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Apr 14 2015, 07:01 PM)
u must be working in shell b4
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Want to fish me on this whistling.gif
Can try, but won't get any info laugh.gif
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The world is fair.

Imagine 15 years ago, those Shell IT staff in Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, China, Hong Kong, Australia, UK, Netherlands, Germany, US and etc lost their jobs to Malaysians.

Shell Cyberjaya created many opportunities for many Malaysians - especially those SAP contractors. Many became multi-millionaires. Even today, many Project Managers are earning good monies from Shell Cyberjaya.

If there is anything to blame, I blame the government for:

- Not producing enough qualified graduates who are well versed in English.
- Never offer good opportunities for Shell. If Shell has enough upstream projects, the saving for shifting to India is negligible.
- Lack of focus to develop Cyberjaya - more interested in property development than any other things.

Nevertheless, many of us should thank Shell for the past 20 years (from the days SSI was formed).
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QUOTE(ongss @ Apr 14 2015, 09:08 PM)
The world is fair.

Imagine 15 years ago, those Shell IT staff in Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, China, Hong Kong, Australia, UK, Netherlands, Germany, US and etc lost their jobs to Malaysians.

Shell Cyberjaya created many opportunities for many Malaysians - especially those SAP contractors. Many became multi-millionaires. Even today, many Project Managers are earning good monies from Shell Cyberjaya.

If there is anything to blame, I blame the government for:

- Not producing enough qualified graduates who are well versed in English.
- Never offer good opportunities for Shell. If Shell has enough upstream projects, the saving for shifting to India is negligible.
- Lack of focus to develop Cyberjaya - more interested in property development than any other things.

Nevertheless, many of us should thank Shell for the past 20 years (from the days SSI was formed).
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Oil well reserves in Malaysia are limited, the production won't be on par to what Middle east are doing.
I can open another 20 wells in Malaysia, but again with current weak market, for every barrel being dig out, I may be losing money.
Australia also giving fair competition to all, but yet Shell still sells their refinery in Australia.
This is nothing to do with local government's policies, is more on keeping the book nice as to continue sucking investor's money.
Shell share in Malaysia are bleeding like nobody's business, from the all time high of rm14 last time, now is at rm5. But at HQ, their share price still remain high.
They already make enough money from Malaysia, so is time to close it down and go to other places.
1 Employee that earning rm6000 a month for them are a burden, but keeping a manager that does nothing for rm60000 are required to stay competitive.
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post Apr 14 2015, 09:57 PM

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Doesn't matter for them. They can hire 2 in Bangalore for rm6000 with still the same rm60000 manager managing them.

Don't come back telling me they need to fire the manager away so they could hire 20 ppl to do the managers job.

Management ppl always get paid higher than operations ppl no matter they work or Facebook all the time. Have to accept the fact. How to avoid? Set up our own company or be that manager.
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post Apr 14 2015, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(ongss @ Apr 14 2015, 09:08 PM)
The world is fair.

Imagine 15 years ago, those Shell IT staff in Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, China, Hong Kong, Australia, UK, Netherlands, Germany, US and etc lost their jobs to Malaysians.

Shell Cyberjaya created many opportunities for many Malaysians - especially those SAP contractors. Many became multi-millionaires. Even today, many Project Managers are earning good monies from Shell Cyberjaya.

If there is anything to blame, I blame the government for:

- Not producing enough qualified graduates who are well versed in English.
- Never offer good opportunities for Shell. If Shell has enough upstream projects, the saving for shifting to India is negligible.
- Lack of focus to develop Cyberjaya - more interested in property development than any other things.

Nevertheless, many of us should thank Shell for the past 20 years (from the days SSI was formed).
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well said...we lost one of ibu pembangunan (NS) from penang as well. These foreign investors had contributed so much to our pepple and nation, unfortunately, our local policy is not compatible to global growing economy at all.

We had lost so much, especially to Thailand and Spore. Namely, as for recent event, the car assembly/manuf, that suppose to be msian, but our policy was not competitive enough; lately biggest logistic hub, suppose to be Msia as well.... but lost to Spore.

Sigh!

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