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post Mar 18 2015, 12:54 AM, updated 11y ago

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KUALA LUMPUR, March 17, 2015:

Around 850 jobs could be at stake at Shell offices in Cyberjaya as the Anglo-Dutch oil major consolidates its IT functions at a new base in Bangalore, India.

While no decision has yet been made, a senior officer dropped this bombshell during a town hall meeting with staff in Cyberjaya late last month, said sources.

The Bangalore move could also affect some 1,000 third party contractors if they are unable to relocate to India, the sources said.

The Shell Technology Centre Bangalore (STCB) is to be one of the three global hubs for technology, after Houston and Amsterdam for the energy group.

“By the end of 2010, STCB employed around 700 professionals and has plans to grow to about 1,500 in the near future. Recruitment at STCB is currently focused on graduates in India and experienced Indian professionals,” Shell Global said at its website.

Given this focus, chances are staff now employed at Cyberjaya may find it difficult to be relocated to India, said the sources, and will probably have to look for new jobs here.

A Shell company spokesperson here said: “Shell recently announced the strategic intention to create an in-house global information technology centre in Bangalore. India.

“This is part of a review of the company’s global IT projects and selected operations support capability that places greater emphasis on delivering projects in-house.”

Asked about the possible job losses at Cyberjaya, the spokesperson said: “We anticipate no direct impact to Shell staff in Malaysia during 2015 as a result of this proposed change. The project is at an early stage of development.

“Given our strategic intent, however, it is expected that there is likely to be staff impact as a result of this activity. We do not yet know the extent of this impact.

“We will share details when they become available with staff and their representative bodies, where appropriate.”

The spokesperson added: “Shell has been in Malaysia for over 100 years and we believe there are still many opportunities for Shell in Malaysia.

“Shell has no plan to close our Cyberjaya business operations centre. IT is just one of the functions based there.

“The centre also provides valuable human resources, finance, distribution, communications production services, global commercial and contracting and procurement support to Shell’s global operations.

“We continue to look for ways to migrate higher value work to our Cyberjaya Business Operations centre from our global operations.”

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Read more: http://www.therakyatpost.com/business/2015.../#ixzz3Uf9CAxXt
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post Mar 19 2015, 12:14 AM

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So, the end of high paying O&G jobs are here?
I heard BP retrenched a lot people in their bangsar south office also right?

How about Petronas, Petron and Esso Mobil? Any bad news so far?
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post Mar 20 2015, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Daily Kaizen @ Mar 20 2015, 02:23 PM)
I suppose this initiative will only affect the IT Function, not others in SBSC?
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Should be. Mostly affected is the SAP folks there. Used to be high paid SAP consultants, now become jobless SAP consultants. This will further drop the SAP market rates.
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post Mar 21 2015, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 21 2015, 11:22 AM)
Without SAP, people still can work thumbup.gif
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Just back from breakfast with some old friends in the industry who has gone to management role.
Apparently some of the MNC top management are talking about moving to cloud. Their ultimate goal is to have the Analyst sit in NL or UK, and the application+infra is supported and maintained by someone else (currently india). don't be surprise 5 yrs later they announce closure of the india center and outsource everything back to SAP germany, to be hosted on the cloud. i am talking about 2 O&G company here (insider news so i cannot reveal much)
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post Mar 21 2015, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 21 2015, 12:40 PM)
Salary in India are very cheap whistling.gif
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No, there were concerns with the Quality. They wont simply outsource just because it is cheap, the management have thought of all factors. Apparently India is only an interim transition, while waiting for SAP to finalize on the Cloud hosting infra and agreement. The contract for the India center is only 10 years I heard.
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post Mar 22 2015, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(maldini @ Mar 22 2015, 12:25 AM)
This is just beginning, gradually companies are moving out to seek cheaper alternative (in this case obviously India will be the top choice). This is sad fact of shared service industry. The intention of course was noble, to equip local with right knowledge and skills so perhaps one day we can stand on our own. For instance, freelancing, entrepreneurship etc etc. At some degree, I can see this is actually happening especially in SAP. We just have to embrace the change and be competitive in order to survive. In SAP's case, with introduction of HANA Enterprise Cloud, more and more skilled jobs are being reduced. When technology is becoming efficient, job opportunity is becoming competitive (hence high pay). The pie is getting smaller.
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please enlighten us on HANA Enterprise Cloud. I thought currently already have the SAP Cloud ERP?
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post Mar 22 2015, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(maldini @ Mar 22 2015, 01:09 AM)
Well, the only difference is database. With previous SAP Cloud ERP, the database technology could be coming from different vendors for instance Oracle. But with HANA Enterprise Cloud (HEC), it's end to end solution from SAP. With HEC, it's not just Software as a Service we talking about but platform & infrastructure as a service as well. No longer network, server, SAP Basis to name a few required to maintain SAP infrastructure hence less jobs.
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Hmm. my ex-company using SAP Business Bydesign. It was the SAP Cloud ERP which they recently migrated to HANA. I think all new bydesign will be default on HANA already. What is the different between bydesign and HEC?
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post Mar 22 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(maldini @ Mar 22 2015, 09:25 AM)
Business ByDesign is intended for mid size market. The on premise equivalent would be business one. While HEC could cater large enterprise and the equivalent would be SAP ECC. I thought Business ByDesign would be discontinued, Link
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hmm. my ex-company is an MNC so i dont think bydesign is for SME and is not related to business one.
the cloud version of business one is called business one cloud

dont think discontinued because my ex company actively using it.
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post Apr 12 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Apr 12 2015, 10:13 AM)
because i haven't got good job now sweat.gif
it's for SAP support role. haven't got result yet, so don't know how the remuneration package is.
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further read
if u dont mind joining a sinking ship, by all means go ahead.
if u are still young, u may try
if u like to job hop, its definitely a good place because 1 year later definitely u need to find new job again
jobs which can outsourced to india means that what u doing now are no different with the india ppl can do, easily replaceable.

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post Apr 12 2015, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 12 2015, 12:42 PM)
Basically you under estimated what westerner's think.
They are more racist than what you can imagine.
They are treating Asians as pigs.
They are leaving Malaysia as we are no more a loyal dog to them and demanding higher pay.
What they want is loyal dogs that will follow their demand.
Just go and work in their country and you will understand me.
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elaborate more pls
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post Apr 12 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 12 2015, 02:02 PM)
Are you sure you are working in a MNC sweat.gif
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yes but i don't feel the things u told me before. so i am curious
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post Apr 12 2015, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 12 2015, 05:29 PM)
Then suggest you go out of Malaysia and work in other locations whistling.gif
Then you will understands.
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heh. u might as well dont need to say anything.
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post Apr 13 2015, 09:20 PM

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apart from SAP, what ERP does shell uses?
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post Apr 14 2015, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 14 2015, 04:25 PM)
Sure got the reason as the working atmosphere are changed over the years.
That's why they are giving "high" salary to attract people. But then after take people, they start to do retrenchment.
Not to mention the office politics inside, on par with our politics, complicated.
And with current economy downturn, they will protect their own ars first rather than our ars.
Shell been selling their assets for the past 5 years to make their record nice. But with the money saved, still not enough 1 time wastage of buying another problematic O&G company for 70B dollars.
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what company they bought?

i highly suspect u are shell staff. u should be grateful u got to work with the best employer in msia.
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post Apr 14 2015, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 14 2015, 05:34 PM)
Is all came out in the news, not a secret.
As said before, try working overseas first and you will understand why I dare to generalize those mat salleh are racist arsholes shocking.gif
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u must be working in shell b4
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post Apr 15 2015, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou007 @ Apr 15 2015, 10:41 AM)
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Agreed  cool2.gif
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post Apr 17 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(ongss @ Apr 16 2015, 11:37 PM)
What make you think that you are lucky? Because your current job is more secure?  biggrin.gif

In fact, I have been extremely lucky for decades because of Shell IT. It is not merely monetary, but the culture, safety, management technique and many lessons to learn. 

Shifting to India is not new for Shell. They did it since 2004 by outsourcing their downstream ABAP factory and legacy SAP systems to Wipro and IBM India. That was 11 years ago! Each outsourcing exercises Shell did, after 2004, created many opportunities for local talents to learn, explore and grow. Today, many experienced and well-trained ex-Shell staffs are in big well-known companies holding important positions.

You never know what you miss - because you have not been in the position to view things differently.
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well, the things u mention are totally irrelevant.
do u know whenever we see any resume from shell we will just KIV? reason because shell people are too focus on 1 single repetitive task. for example the finance person that i interviewed from shell only know accounts receivable ! she dont know heck about P&L or BS. And yet they are demanding high salary? I could easily hire at cheaper (or i would be more willing to pay higher pay) to those from chinaman company because this finance girl i hired knows almost everything in finance ! since then i never have prejudice towards small company anymore. mind u i am in a german MNC.

don't believe what i said? go ask other MNC whether they would hire shell staff or not. try those companies near you in cyberjaya (not T-system or HP). My excolleague from here who went to AIG practise the same idea as well.
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post Apr 17 2015, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 17 2015, 11:27 AM)
An O&G company still only have expertise on O&G business, not others.
So is good step you are taking. All the staffs from other business/departments basically are not competent.
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i agree with u with regards to their incompetency.
but i still do not agree about the racism practised by shell or any MNC.

 

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