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post Mar 18 2015, 02:08 AM

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There's no Shell staffs in Cyberjaya to begin with.
HP staffs to be exact.
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 18 2015, 08:21 AM)
Know before talk man....

Shell still around if you aware...the building is next to IBM/Experian/AT&T
Still a number of shell staff...with a bigger number of contractor staff...
All those AT&T/T-sys/HP staffs supporting it already working from each company office ad...
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Using Shell indicator but paid by HP whistling.gif

QUOTE(kron_ka @ Mar 18 2015, 08:26 AM)
The HP staffs servicing Shell were Shell IT staff back then, before Shell decided to outsource.

So its more like HP staffs out of work, unless HP could find a big enough client to absorb the HP team that supports Shell IT.
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HP also a failed company.
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post Mar 18 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 18 2015, 12:19 PM)
dude, u need to know this place exists...
https://plus.google.com/1122204684138782211...out?gl=my&hl=en
There are still Shell staffs....not just those contract staff from HP/ATT/TS who work for them...
HP belum bungkus, but moved a few roles/teams to India ad...
basically "align" with customer's vision  rclxms.gif
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As said, the name is there, but owned by others.
Moving a person from 1 to another country is like forcing a person to resign by their own doh.gif
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post Mar 18 2015, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Riezlange @ Mar 18 2015, 01:02 PM)
I can't believe there's so much ignorant people speculating and making assumptions.

After selling and outsourced to AT&T, T-System and HP. There are still a lot of Shell permanent staff working in SBSC. The plan has been announced 5 yrs back and hence the freeze of hiring of perm staff.

There are a lot of Shell perms that will be affected but shell has plans for them for internal recruitment into different departments
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Yup, you are right, like sending a west Malaysia people going to East Malaysia with minimal allowance thumbup.gif
More to come from Royal Dutch, this is just the beginning laugh.gif
Not to mention few years back they sold the HQ office.

This post has been edited by supersound: Mar 18 2015, 01:35 PM
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post Mar 18 2015, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Riezlange @ Mar 18 2015, 03:08 PM)
Well at least the shell staff don't need to worry jobless. The vss is very good and relocation package is good too. Lutong still has a lot of vacancies.
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Are they giving VSS? In your dreams maybe. Nowadays Shell don't play with this rubbish.
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post Mar 18 2015, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Riezlange @ Mar 18 2015, 04:23 PM)
Y u hate shell so much?
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Hate? Never, is just hat they are not like last time generous when treating their staffs.
Just see how many refineries sold and what happen to the employees inside.
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:20 PM)
i heard there is this redundant scheme.....but don't expect so much
Yeah....don't understand why they prefer to sold the assets to save cost and improve cash flow but on the other hand spend unnecessary fund for HSSE and some rubbish crapz
pity those from SRC, Geelong, etc....
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SRC is still there what biggrin.gif
Why, they want to sell also? that's interesting.
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:30 PM)
sorry i read wrongly...old email from comm, structured reviewed only...
but hei....you won't know right?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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I'm not Shell employee how do I know?

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post Mar 18 2015, 09:40 PM

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An O&G company with so many staffs that doing things not related to O&G. No wonder they failed.
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post Mar 19 2015, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Mar 19 2015, 12:02 AM)
actually those 'shell' staff only exist in facebook. Their own company throw them out, but in facebook still loyal to Shell eventhough paycheck is from HP tongue.gif

i also heard that when HP decided to cut the bullshit with these staff, they wanted to mogok and find lawyer to sue HP

how stupid can these morons be. Shell already throw them out, and they dare to fight the hand that feeds
serve them right!
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Well, what you can expect from them? Join only already getting rm7000-9000, 800 staffs, with average of rm15000 per person, you do the maths. Selling O&G products or IT company whistling.gif

QUOTE(lightwerker @ Mar 19 2015, 12:14 AM)
So, the end of high paying O&G jobs are here?
I heard BP retrenched a lot people in their bangsar south office also right?

How about Petronas, Petron and Esso Mobil? Any bad news so far?
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Most likely, if the price don't return back to 70.
Petron are going to expand, so unlikely. ESSO Mobil already history, so staffs in KL are waiting for time.
Petronas sure won't, since 95% are Malays. It is more on securing votes during GE, same like MAS.
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post Mar 19 2015, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Riezlange @ Mar 19 2015, 08:25 PM)
Why Colgate retrenched? My ex colleagues all said Colgate is retirement place wor!
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Nowadays no job are secured, except those are cheating to earn a living field like insurance, property, fund agents whistling.gif
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post Mar 21 2015, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Mar 20 2015, 12:22 PM)
Haiz, Malaysia everyday retrench people. Last time during the Shell big restructuring, lots of their IT staff move to PETRONAS, exxon, BHP etc. Now those companies also freeze hiring and are also starting their retrenchment programs, where these 850 staff gonna go now?
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They can go India whistling.gif
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post Mar 21 2015, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Mar 20 2015, 11:20 PM)
Should be. Mostly affected is the SAP folks there. Used to be high paid SAP consultants, now become jobless SAP consultants. This will further drop the SAP market rates.
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Without SAP, people still can work thumbup.gif
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post Mar 21 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Mar 21 2015, 12:33 PM)
Just back from breakfast with some old friends in the industry who has gone to management role.
Apparently some of the MNC top management are talking about moving to cloud. Their ultimate goal is to have the Analyst sit in NL or UK, and the application+infra is supported and maintained by someone else (currently india). don't be surprise 5 yrs later they announce closure of the india center and outsource everything back to SAP germany, to be hosted on the cloud. i am talking about 2 O&G company here (insider news so i cannot reveal much)
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Salary in India are very cheap whistling.gif

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post Mar 21 2015, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Mar 21 2015, 12:45 PM)
No, there were concerns with the Quality. They wont simply outsource just because it is cheap, the management have thought of all factors. Apparently India is only an interim transition, while waiting for SAP to finalize on the Cloud hosting infra and agreement. The contract for the India center is only 10 years I heard.
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You know why Middle East countries after their local the second most is Indians sweat.gif
Why they like them hmm.gif
Is because they are yes men.
Help desk job is a standard job, they only do according to it, nothing more but always can perform lesser.
So, since it is stated in procedures, you don't need highly skilled person to do the job.
Quality of job are out of topic for them.
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post Apr 12 2015, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(fix24311 @ Apr 10 2015, 03:27 PM)
hi guys. i want to ask for your opinion.

if i were to accept a 1-year contract with Shell SBSC, is it advisable? will the contract be renewed, or in the end SBSC also closed down after a year and it will be hard to find job again?

please advise your opinion icon_question.gif
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If jobless, why not? Gain experience first.
But make sure you look for other jobs for the time being.
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post Apr 12 2015, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Apr 12 2015, 11:41 AM)
further read
if u dont mind joining a sinking ship, by all means go ahead.
if u are still young, u may try
if u like to job hop, its definitely a good place because 1 year later definitely u need to find new job again
jobs which can outsourced to india means that what u doing now are no different with the india ppl can do, easily replaceable.
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Basically you under estimated what westerner's think.
They are more racist than what you can imagine.
They are treating Asians as pigs.
They are leaving Malaysia as we are no more a loyal dog to them and demanding higher pay.
What they want is loyal dogs that will follow their demand.
Just go and work in their country and you will understand me.
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post Apr 12 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Apr 12 2015, 01:41 PM)
elaborate more pls
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Are you sure you are working in a MNC sweat.gif
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post Apr 12 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Apr 12 2015, 04:39 PM)
yes but i don't feel the things u told me before. so i am curious
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Then suggest you go out of Malaysia and work in other locations whistling.gif
Then you will understands.
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post Apr 12 2015, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(lightwerker @ Apr 12 2015, 06:18 PM)
heh. u might as well dont need to say anything.
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If they really value your contribution, why they want to close Cyberjaya down?

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