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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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plumberly
post Apr 2 2015, 02:17 PM

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Follow up from my frustrating experience yesterday.

Called the ASNB here. Initially I was told that I could not buy ASM due to system upgrading. I explained the ASNB memo on ASN (1-5 Apr) and ASX (5 Apr). Then she said with the system upgrading, it would be slow in getting ASM.

First it is this, later that. Reminds me of MAS (Mana Ada System)!

Asked about going to banks and was told it would be the same with the slow speed.

Giving up. Now they don't deserve the title of being the branch with the highest ASX transactions in Malaysia! Ha.
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post Apr 2 2015, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Apr 2 2015, 12:45 PM)
RHB now has promotion with 50/50 FD & ASNB fund bundle. FD 3 mth 7% and 6 mth 7.8%. Going to top up for ASG fund and place 6 mth FD at 7.8%.

Still cannot open ASM fund. New units issued ?
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How much service charges (i.e. %) u pay?
No new units from ASM other than withdrawal by existing unit holders

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post Apr 2 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 2 2015, 03:19 PM)
How much service charges (i.e. %) u pay?
No new units from ASM other than withdrawal by existing unit holders
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Still std 5%. Last year promo by RHB better, 2.5% only. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 2 2015, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 2 2015, 02:17 PM)
Follow up from my frustrating experience yesterday.

Called the ASNB here. Initially I was told that I could not buy ASM due to system upgrading. I explained the ASNB memo on ASN (1-5 Apr) and ASX (5 Apr). Then she said with the system upgrading, it would be slow in getting ASM.

First it is this, later that. Reminds me of MAS (Mana Ada System)!

Asked about going to banks and was told it would be the same with the slow speed.

Giving up. Now they don't deserve the title of being the branch with the highest ASX transactions in Malaysia! Ha.
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KPI failed for the staff & Branch tongue.gif
wil-i-am
post Apr 2 2015, 04:07 PM

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Returns from fixed n variable price Funds will be affected by GST
http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/NOTISPENTING/Su...disclaimer).pdf
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:09 PM

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Bad news guys..
1MDB energy unit focuses on company’s IPO again.
there's goes your ASx money laugh.gif

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/money/ar...d-potential-inv
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Apr 2 2015, 03:33 PM)
Still std 5%. Last year promo by RHB better, 2.5% only.  biggrin.gif
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To clarify, RHB officer told me need to pay 6% GST on the 5% sales charge. Their promo Apr 1 to end of June 2015. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 2 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 2 2015, 04:07 PM)
Returns from fixed n variable price Funds will be affected by GST
http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/NOTISPENTING/Su...disclaimer).pdf
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Bad news!

I think for the fixed price ASX, the impact will be minimum as there is no sales charge etc.

Only the management fees, trustee fees, etc. 6% of these fees will go to govt and thereby increasing these operating costs by 6%?

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post Apr 2 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 2 2015, 04:09 PM)
Bad news guys..
1MDB energy unit focuses on company’s IPO again.
there's goes your ASx money  laugh.gif

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/money/ar...d-potential-inv
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Let the hunting begin than tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2015, 05:04 PM

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I did a quick check using AS1M annual report on the impact of GST on mgt fee.

The extra 6% on mgt fee equates to about 1% drop in nett profit and a drop of about 0.1% in dividend rate.

I think the overall dividend rate drop will be more than 0.1% due to the 6% GST on other operating costs.

Hope it will not set back by more than 0.2% when compared with before GST.

My 2 cents.
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post Apr 2 2015, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 2 2015, 05:04 PM)
I did a quick check using AS1M annual report on the impact of GST on mgt fee.

The extra 6% on mgt fee equates to about 1% drop in nett profit and a drop of about 0.1% in dividend rate.

I think the overall dividend rate drop will be more than 0.1% due to the 6% GST on other operating costs.

Hope it will not set back by more than 0.2% when compared with before GST.

My 2 cents.
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ASNB need to work harder to generate xtra 0.1% to 0.2% to cover GST cost
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post Apr 2 2015, 06:16 PM

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So, we still pay the normal 5% and it is inclusive the GST?

Damn I pening ad this thing.
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post Apr 2 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 2 2015, 02:17 PM)
Follow up from my frustrating experience yesterday.

Called the ASNB here. Initially I was told that I could not buy ASM due to system upgrading. I explained the ASNB memo on ASN (1-5 Apr) and ASX (5 Apr). Then she said with the system upgrading, it would be slow in getting ASM.

First it is this, later that. Reminds me of MAS (Mana Ada System)!

Asked about going to banks and was told it would be the same with the slow speed.

Giving up. Now they don't deserve the title of being the branch with the highest ASX transactions in Malaysia! Ha.
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CIMB seems so easy, 1 shot got 8k ASM, no more money , otherwise i think can get more. feel like buying it for you guys who dont seem to be able to get, just treat KFC cukup la...
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post Apr 2 2015, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 2 2015, 04:07 PM)
Returns from fixed n variable price Funds will be affected by GST
http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/NOTISPENTING/Su...disclaimer).pdf
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Variable price funds investors will be badly hit.
Assuming every RM1000 worth of investment, 5% sales charge involved. Hence, RM50 goes to the fund manager. And RM3 (6% of RM50) goes to the government.
Meaning U pump in gross RM1000, only RM947 goes to the investment. The rest goes to PNB/IRB.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 2 2015, 06:16 PM)
So, we still pay the normal 5% and it is inclusive the  GST?

Damn I pening ad this thing.
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Consumer/ investors are the one who absorbs the 6%
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Apr 2 2015, 06:46 PM)
Variable price funds investors will be badly hit.
Assuming every RM1000 worth of investment, 5% sales charge involved. Hence, RM50 goes to the fund manager. And RM3 (6% of RM50) goes to the government.
Meaning U pump in gross RM1000, only RM947 goes to the investment. The rest goes to PNB/IRB.
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Is this for depositing time or withdrawing time? Does it affeect the payment of the dividen?
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post Apr 2 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 2 2015, 06:48 PM)
Is this for depositing time or withdrawing time? Does it affeect the payment of the dividen?
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U kena 6% gst when u purchase variable price fund.
Dividend distribution are tax exempted for asnb's fixed price fund.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Apr 2 2015, 06:51 PM)
U kena 6% gst when u purchase variable price fund.
Dividend distribution are tax exempted for asnb's fixed price fund.
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How about variable fund like ASG? Will the dividen be charge 6%?
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post Apr 2 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Apr 2 2015, 06:42 PM)
CIMB seems so easy, 1 shot got 8k ASM, no more money , otherwise i think can get more. feel like buying it for you guys who dont seem to be able to get, just treat KFC cukup la...
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Problem is I am in an under developed town where I still do not know which banks here have upgraded their system for ASM (except ASNB but they raised the you-know-what excuse).

KFC for ASNB? I will be seeing IXP for all-encompassing "sedation" charge. Ha.
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post Apr 2 2015, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 2 2015, 06:16 PM)
So, we still pay the normal 5% and it is inclusive the  GST?

Damn I pening ad this thing.
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We have to pay the 6% on top of the 5%. So if SC RM100, then we pay add'l RM6. Total RM106 from our pocket.

This post has been edited by bbgoat: Apr 2 2015, 07:17 PM

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