reply my msn/YM by 5pm, and dont give excuses like u have too many customer, blur or things like that, ppl here knows that i dont accept that kind of excuse

if u give me satisfactory answers and solutions by tonight, i will close this thread as soon as i get my things.( i still want the processor FYI, just give me a replacement 1, and u can check back ur thread for my requirements )

got full story arh?

this morning i getting my stuff : amd thunderbird 1ghz B version, matsonic mobo, 2x32 MB sdram

in good packaging

1. at first, i look at the hsf installation from side, omg 1 side of the hsf seems pressing down too much compared to other side (bad feeling)

2. i took out the hsf, look at the core, damn... 1 corner got broken a bit. thinking that my duron 1ghz processor still can work with 1 side broken core, i tried to plug in again, and boot the mobo. damn... same symptom (off/on non stop)

3. fine, i try my luck with my old duron proceessor. ok, it works.

4. then i look carefully at the thunderbird processor again. it seems like ALOT OF dust and dirty things. thnking that it may cause the heat problem that can lead to on/off symptom, i decided to use alcohol, cotton bug, and a flat head screw driver to SLOWLY AND GENTLY get rid of the core dirts to make sure heat transfer is ok.(im not newbie in pc FYI). ok, succeeded without any problem. whole core still fine except for the corner that originally oredi broken.

5. i plug in again to the mobo.same symptom again. conclusion : the processor is rosak.

seem like DOA...should get a 1 to 1 exchange...good luck to you

he gives 1 week personal warranty, thats why i test it fast after i received the thing. who knows first boot oredi giving me the off/on problem

have you PM him about this thread?
if you've not, Do PM him here to settle it here

oredi pm him

p/s : this will be first deal and last deal with him. same like my deal with u.

Never pack the cpu with the heatsink on it unless the cpu has a metal heat spreader... otherwise u're have cracked cores. And if u pack the heatsink with the mobo, tape the heatsink down or put each rolled up newspaper padding to prevent from moving around when posted otherwise it will damage the mobo's caps n other stuff. - Advice to anyone reading this.

good advice. now u have any suggestion for this problem?

guys, please don't make it a habit to open thread just because you have problems with a deal and if it could be easily settled via PM.

threads should only be opened here if there is a dispute, eg when both parties couldn't come up with an agreeable solution.

so avenger, have you even discussed with him before coming to a decision to opening this thread?

what was the result of the discussion that lead you to creating this thread?


as for the rest of you.........please do not post any further.

pls close the thread..if u r not happy with my solution..u can reopen it..
thanks

FYI,

he just received the goods today and he post up this to attack...
i dont know why he do that but....just give and take...

A little too early to post up here in the first place
More and more ppl abusing this section...haih

I'll close this first

Espionage, I will send the processor back to you on saturday. Hopefully it reach you on sunday.

sorry for late sent back, but im busy from monday-friday due to work and other things.

oh great

Espionage is now Deafpionage, keep ignoring my messages online. sms him no reply.

buat tak tau oredi. good seller i must say.

p/s : at least give me the answer that i need. and not the thread link of ur sucky amd processor and mobo selling thread (at first say no more, then become a few units available, but unknown condition, unknown konon, give me answer first).

do you want me to paste the chat logs?

Better post it..... u're getting any peace from him anyways.

u threatening me ar?

called u if i send the processor on saturday, u say ok.

then saturday i went poslaju and all courier service here, all closed. sms u, no reply.

u purposely no reply. call no reply. sms no reply.

u purposely 1 is it? now thing oredi send back to you, just now call you, you say "what you want to do?" you very lansi is it?

RangerRed, shut up. he purposely always no reply on my msn or whatever. leave me a pm will do. that also very hard for him to do.

he sent the processor in that form, oredi his fault, he now trying to escape the fact that he sent it in stupid packaging. partly his fault also.

o.O....wah . . . RangerRed tio kan suddenly =.="
That was awful man . . .Peace...settle in peace lur

Well...i know what is the feeling when someone just don reply ur msg or sms after they get ur pm. Last time i oso tried to msg someone i deal b4 . . . .but he oso din bother to reply me . It lasted a week or 2 if i'm not mistaken then reply me with lansi word. . . . . its really sad ler

This post has been edited by ahbenggay: Oct 12 2006, 08:46 PM

toi kan? no la

i just ask him to shut up, if i want to "kan" ppl, i will say foul words. just now i called Esp, he asked me "what can u do?". lansi. just like when he flamed melodyworld, very lansi. if he chose not to refund (told him i cannot send on that day, no reply also, im assuming he was happy coz i delayed another day, he no need to refund me), i also cannot do anything. he can go to hell with his processor. i will consider it giving a simpati to a pengemis, a rich pengemis.

avenger, i ask him to post the logs so we can judge for ourselves. If u wanted to settle it silently u could have done it in private. Since u couldnt settle it in private u open a thread that is open to public riddicule.

Since u have only posted ur side of the story than Espionage has a right to post his side of the story including all n any discussion he had with ur including his chat logs.

Frankly, i would like to 'hear' what kind of chat logs he has with u that he is refusing to reply to ur SMSes n PMes.

He is just asking for a solution way , what makes you say him "lansi" ?



P/s :What offer did he offered you to deal this situation , Please list it out.

offer?

just now i called him asking how is the status. he say not yet check. then i ask him back, when want to check? he say will check when he free. then i asked back, then i have to wait how long? then he say wait until he free. then i asked again, how long wor? then he say he give 1 week warranty only, then i sent him the thing after 1 week (i oredi called him and sms him about the late delivery on saturday, no reply, so what can i say? he win by the law by silent up), ask me back : "if i check the thing, what u can do? u say la" then i say "ok la ok la, up to u la"

maybe i should consider i sponsor RM xx to a LYN beggar aka pengemis. nvm, money can earn back. but my feeling towards this deal, sorry, cannot pretend to forget. in future i wont buy anything from port klang ppl, thanks to him.

i can tell u that 80-90% of the time i msn him, he just not replying at all. if he does reply, he just reply "ya?" or "i just give 1 week warranty".

Wednesday, 2006 September 27 (23:49:55)
[23:49] :[E:[S:[P:[: who is this
[02:27] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[02:27] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: im from LYN
[02:28] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: want to ask about your amd thunderbird 1ghz and the mobo
[02:28] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: the mobo working well?
[02:48] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: any bolted cap on the mobo?
[09:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[09:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: im avenger here
[09:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: want to ask about ur amd thunderbird 1ghz
[09:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: as well as the motherboard
[10:16] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: halo
[10:16] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: how come u never reply 1
[10:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: one whole day i waiting for ur news
[17:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[17:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u there?
[18:01] :[E:[S:[P:[: hi
[18:01] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[18:01] :[E:[S:[P:[: anything?
[18:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: about ur amd thunderbird
[18:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: and the motherboard
[18:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: still available
[18:03] :[E:[S:[P:[: yes
[18:03] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: price including postage?
[18:04] :[E:[S:[P:[: no
[18:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: RM 200 including postage can?
[18:14] :[E:[S:[P:[: 215
[18:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: har
[18:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: exp
[18:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: since its old oredi
[18:16] :[E:[S:[P:[: that's what i can only do for u
[18:16] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok nvm then
[18:17] :[E:[S:[P:[: can u show me the link that u refer to?
[18:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: what link?
[18:17] :[E:[S:[P:[: about the thing i selling
[18:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i got see ppl selling p4 with mobo RM 170
[18:20] :[E:[S:[P:[: can i have the link?
[18:46] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: just browse thru the cpu section
[18:46] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i dont remember which thread
[18:51] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i cannot find the RM170 thread
[18:51] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: but i found another RM 200 thread
[18:51] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=346235
[18:58] :[E:[S:[P:[: actually what itmes u wants from me?
[19:05] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: amd thunderbird 1ghz + motherboard
[19:07] :[E:[S:[P:[: where is ur location?
[19:07] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: kedah
[19:21] :[E:[S:[P:[: erm
[19:21] :[E:[S:[P:[: ok la..
[19:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 1ghz thunderbird , motherboard, 128MB pc133
[19:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: correct?
[19:22] :[E:[S:[P:[: without the ram
[19:25] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ......
[19:26] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: no ram how to use
[19:26] :[E:[S:[P:[: MBB 112045972921
SEAH SIEW HAO
3 JLN KULUR
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SELANGOR
+6012-2041378
[19:26] :[E:[S:[P:[: u got the amd hsf?
[19:27] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: no
[19:27] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: RM 200 is without ram? sienzzz... i dont have sdram here.... cannot use also if like that
[19:27] :[E:[S:[P:[: erm......
[19:27] :[E:[S:[P:[: what is ur budget?
[19:28] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: if RM 200 can get proc + mobo + ram, ok la
[19:28] :[E:[S:[P:[: not include postal
[19:28] :[E:[S:[P:[: ok?
[19:28] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: including postal la
[19:28] :[E:[S:[P:[: not earning oledi
[19:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: cincai la
[19:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 1 week personal guarantee, right
[19:30] :[E:[S:[P:[: i give u only 32mb ram ok
[19:30] :[E:[S:[P:[: with hsf as well
[19:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 32 how to use
[19:30] :[E:[S:[P:[: 64 la
[19:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: aiyo 128 cannot ar
[19:30] :[E:[S:[P:[: i dont have 128 anymore
[19:31] :[E:[S:[P:[: left 32 and 64
[19:31] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ......
[19:31] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ur mobo how many sdram slot and hwo many pci slot?
[19:32] :[E:[S:[P:[: 3 sd slot...
[19:32] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: will need to expand something
[19:32] :[E:[S:[P:[: 5 pci slot
[19:32] :[E:[S:[P:[: good 1
[19:32] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: agp?
[19:32] :[E:[S:[P:[: agp and int sound as well
[19:32] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: got built in wthat stuff
[19:32] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: agp sound built in?
[19:32] :[E:[S:[P:[: so deal..
[19:32] :[E:[S:[P:[: sound built in only
[19:32] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok can save some power
[19:33] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: how much ram u give
[19:33] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i dont have sdram here
[19:33] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: and i want to use it to replace my dead mobo
[19:36] :[E:[S:[P:[: oic
[19:36] :[E:[S:[P:[: so u got the hsf?
[19:36] :[E:[S:[P:[: i will give u 64mb
[19:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: my hsf cannot tahan thunderbird heat output
[19:37] :[E:[S:[P:[: what spec ur hsf?
[19:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: its stock 1
[19:37] :[E:[S:[P:[: for?
[19:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: duron1ghz
[19:37] :[E:[S:[P:[: i think can
[19:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: nope, it cannot
[19:37] :[E:[S:[P:[: it is the same hsf from mine
[19:38] :[E:[S:[P:[: ok la..i will give u a hsf...
[19:38] :[E:[S:[P:[: so deal?
[19:38] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: have to find sdram lagi
[19:38] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i need 512
[19:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: at least
[19:39] :[E:[S:[P:[: so ok?
[19:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: that 512 i will think myself
[19:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: b4 deal, 1 most important thing to ask
[19:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: the motherboard got bad capacitors?
[19:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: bolted cap
[19:39] :[E:[S:[P:[: dont have la
[19:40] :[E:[S:[P:[: u see my post...
[19:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[19:40] :[E:[S:[P:[: everyone is happy of my stuff
[19:40] :[E:[S:[P:[: coz i care my customer
[19:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i dont want to have bad cap mobo
[19:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so i bank in RM 200 to u?
[19:40] :[E:[S:[P:[: u still need the 64mb ram?
[19:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: need
[19:40] :[E:[S:[P:[: ok la..
[19:40] :[E:[S:[P:[: yes pls bank in now...
[19:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: got bcb?
[19:41] :[E:[S:[P:[: m2u only
[19:41] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hmm
[19:41] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: then i internet banking to u
[19:41] :[E:[S:[P:[: great
[19:41] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: tomorrow u will get the money
[19:41] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: but not now
[19:41] :[E:[S:[P:[: y?
[19:42] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i will trasnfer from bcb
[19:42] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: or public bank
[19:42] :[E:[S:[P:[: erm
[19:42] :[E:[S:[P:[: i got publiv
[19:42] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ah ok
[19:42] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: give me the public bank account
[19:42] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so when can u send
[19:43] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: just want to know
[19:43] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so that i available when poslaju arrive
[19:43] :[E:[S:[P:[: kedah very far
[19:43] :[E:[S:[P:[: 2-4
[19:43] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: poslaju = 1 day only
[19:44] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 2-4?
[19:44] :[E:[S:[P:[: i send something to kedah b4
[19:44] :[E:[S:[P:[: fastest 2
[19:44] :[E:[S:[P:[: slowest 4
[19:44] :[E:[S:[P:[: some more weekend and puasa
[19:44] :[E:[S:[P:[: some more malay u know la
[19:52] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[19:56] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[19:56] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so tomorrow u send?
[19:56] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: personal warranty 1 week from the date i receive?
[19:56] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: my rig is damn messy to setup
[19:56] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: too many things oredi
[19:57] :[E:[S:[P:[: yes...
[19:57] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: at least need 5 hours for advanced pc technician
[19:57] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com:
[19:57] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: deal
[19:57] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: public bank account?
[20:02] :[E:[S:[P:[: 3 PBB 496139511
4 SEAH SIEW HAO
[20:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: aiks
[20:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: cannot do internet transfer
[20:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: public bank there problem
[20:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: This function is temporarily not available until further notice due to system enhancement. Please proceed to our nearest Public Bank branches or ATM machines to perform your third party funds transfer. We apologise for the inconvenience caused.
[20:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: walao eh
[20:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i use bcb la
[20:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: your public bank account correct or not
[20:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: less 1 digit punya
[20:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 496139511 <--- kurang 1 digit from mine
[20:19] :[E:[S:[P:[: 4906139511
[20:19] :[E:[S:[P:[: this should be the correct 1
[20:20] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ur ic no.
[20:20] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: bcb now requires that to send $$
[20:21] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: troublesome
[20:22] :[E:[S:[P:[: 4906139511 is my public bank
[20:22] :[E:[S:[P:[: try again pls
[20:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ur ic no
[20:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i need that for BCB to transfer money to u
[20:23] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: zzzz at internet banking system nwo
[20:23] :[E:[S:[P:[: can u use public bank...?
[20:23] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: cannot
[20:23] :[E:[S:[P:[: i just now give u wrong #
[20:23] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: it doesnt allow for nwo
[20:24] :[E:[S:[P:[: can u try again
[20:24] :[E:[S:[P:[: i can log in my pbebank
[20:24] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: but internet transfer cannotgo thru
[20:24] :[E:[S:[P:[: ok..
[20:25] :[E:[S:[P:[: i give u my bcb acc
[20:25] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: wait ar
[20:25] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i try again
[20:25] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i see how
[20:25] :[E:[S:[P:[: pls try...
[20:25] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: no problem
[20:25] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: cannot
[20:26] :[E:[S:[P:[: 2 BCB 12040504820522
4 SEAH SIEW HAO
[20:26] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: wait
[20:27] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: less 1 number
[20:28] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: eh
[20:28] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: working
[20:28] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hehe
[20:28] :[E:[S:[P:[: done?
[20:29] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: done
[20:29] :[E:[S:[P:[: email me ur name hp# and add to simonseah@gmail.com
[20:29] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: give here can?
[20:29] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: or pm u in forum?
[20:30] :[E:[S:[P:[: cannot email?
[20:30] :[E:[S:[P:[: pm oso can
[20:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: wait ar
[20:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: use my personal website email better
[20:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com:
[20:31] Little Devils~~(6):
[20:31] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: check ur gmail later
[20:31] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: just sent it out
[20:31] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: btw, please wrap it nicely, dont want the mobo to bend
[20:35] :[E:[S:[P:[: how much u do ur own website?
[20:35] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: mine is expensive
[20:35] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: didnt do research b4 pay up
[20:36] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: but nvm la
[20:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok got ur reply email
[20:37] :[E:[S:[P:[: $$$?
[20:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so u send today or tomorrow?
[20:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i scare tomorrow poslaju dont open
[20:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u not yet got ur money?
[20:37] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i sent thru bcb
@,U�?������[20:39] :[E:[S:[P:[: i dont have online bcb
[20:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: oh ok
[20:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: should be there oredi
[20:39] :[E:[S:[P:[: $$$ how much for hosting?
[20:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 70
[20:39] :[E:[S:[P:[: cheap
[20:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: but little space and bandwidth
[20:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: and limited functions
[20:39] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: brb
[20:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: got alot of work to do
[20:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i snake for 2 hours oredi
[20:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com:

Friday, 2006 September 29 (10:09:06)
[10:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[10:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: just want to kacau u
[10:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com:
[10:09] :[E:[S:[P:[: it late now
[10:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: can u give me the poslaju tracking once u send the item out?
[10:09] :[E:[S:[P:[: pls check ur email
[10:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[10:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: im trying to repair the motherboard
[10:10] :[E:[S:[P:[: dont waste time on that
[10:10] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: if the motherboard ok, then i can have a 3rd rig up for good
[10:10] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: :$
[10:10] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: any idea why dont waste time ?
[10:10] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: sifu, please teach
[10:11] :[E:[S:[P:[: it is not easy
[10:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: maybe u got much more technical expertise than me
[10:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: bolted capacitor is not a problem for me ;_
[10:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com:
[10:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: problem im facing now is bolted capacitors
[10:13] :[E:[S:[P:[: no just bad caps cause this prob
[10:13] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: oh
[10:13] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: any idea of what are the problems?
[10:13] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: maybe i can learn new stuff from u
[10:13] :[E:[S:[P:[: many
[10:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[10:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: can give me example
[10:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hehe
[10:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: wah so fast u sent out oredi
[10:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: kudos to u
[10:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 1 of the fastest seller i encountered
[10:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: respect
[10:16] :[E:[S:[P:[: i dont like delay
[10:16] :[E:[S:[P:[: customer satisfaction is important
[10:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[10:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: this 1 u win
[10:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i totally agree with that
[10:23] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hopefully the amd 1ghz thunderbird can tahan 24/7 operation
[10:23] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com:

Saturday, 2006 September 30 (21:55:32)
[21:55] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[21:56] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u there?
[23:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[23:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i know u are there
[23:55] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: halo]

Thursday, 2006 October 05 (01:32:08)
[01:32] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: weekend i will send u the processor
[02:17] :[E:[S:[P:[: how long have u take to sent it
[02:19] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i will send on this saturday
[02:19] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i have been super busy for past few days
[02:19] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so didnt have time to do it
[02:21] :[E:[S:[P:[: how long i stated the warranty period?
[02:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 1 week lo
[02:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: but i no time to send the thing back to u
[02:22] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i put in my cupboard
[02:24] :[E:[S:[P:[: if tomorrow u post it back to me...how long already?
[02:25] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: are u questioning me of my credibility?
[02:27] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u dont have to worry, i will pack the processor back to u in good packing
[02:43] :[E:[S:[P:[: i dont have a worry with you since u posted with argueing without patient...
[02:44] :[E:[S:[P:[: still with the rules...
[02:44] :[E:[S:[P:[: 1 week is 1 week
[02:49] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: the processor will be at ur place on sunday
[02:49] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: then its up to you what u want to do with it
[02:49] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: whether u can find something for me or u want to continue the debate
[02:53] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: the way u flame melodyworld, i can see you are same type of ppl like me
[02:54] :[E:[S:[P:[: still with the rules..1 week is 1 wekk
[02:54] :[E:[S:[P:[: if i dont get it...i am so sorry for you...
[02:56] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so if i send tomorrow?
[02:57] :[E:[S:[P:[: hopefully i got it sat
[02:57] :[E:[S:[P:[: or else sorry
[02:59] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u better be sorry
[03:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i dont get my replacement, and u dont want to give me back my stuff
[03:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ;just see what happen to all ur threads
[03:01] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: in future
[03:01] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: just give 1 more day to receive the processor, then everything will be fine
[03:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i just want another day to send out the procesor
[03:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: if u cannot do that also
[03:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: no comment
[03:07] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: oh ya
[03:07] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: forgot to tell u
[03:07] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ur stuff arrive on sunday
[03:07] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so my warranty valid until sunday
[09:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[09:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: tomorrow maybe i not able to send processor to u
[09:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: something comes up
[09:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so i will send on saturday
[09:05] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: is it ok with u
[09:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: answer me plz
[09:09] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: everytime u just keep quiet

Thursday, 2006 October 05 (22:15:01)
[22:15] :[E:[S:[P:[: u called me just now?
[22:15] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: yup
[22:16] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: 8am work like cow until now
[22:16] :[E:[S:[P:[: where u working
[22:16] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: near my house
[22:17] :[E:[S:[P:[: as?
[22:17] :[E:[S:[P:[: what co?
[22:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: system engineer
[22:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: small company only
[22:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: no face to mention
[22:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: brb
[22:17] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: go lucnh
[23:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ∵　　　　　☆◢██◣　◥◣　∴　 　◢◤　∵　　█氣球█ 　　　　　　　◥██◤　　☆ 　　　◢██◣　　▲　　∵　　　　　☆ ☆　　█氣球█　　╰╮　◢██◣ 　☆　◥██◤　∵　╰╮█氣球█　　☆ 　☆　∵　▲　　　　　　◥██◤☆ 　　　╭╯　　◢◤　☆　　　▲ ☆　　╰╮　　☆　　　　　╭╯　　◢◤ ╭╧╮╭╧╮╭╧╮╭╧╮╭╧╮ ╭╮☆ ║祝│║中│║秋│║佳│║節│ ╰ ╮ ╘∞╛╘∞╛╘∞╛╘∞╛╘∞╛ ☆╰快樂
[09:27] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: now im packing ur amd
[09:41] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ur poslaju tracking code is ED487215856MY
[09:41] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: tomorrow will send out after i wake up

Sunday, 2006 October 08 (18:51:05)
[18:51] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: later maybe u will receive the processor
[06:29] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hi
[06:29] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: did you receive the processor
[06:30] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:35] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:35] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:35] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[06:40] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[07:59] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hello
[16:32] :[E:[S:[P:[: yes
[20:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hallo
[20:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u there/
[20:06] :[E:[S:[P:[: yes sir
[20:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[20:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: finally got answer
[20:11] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: so u got the procesor oredi, right?
[20:12] :[E:[S:[P:[: just got it
[20:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ok
[20:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: yesterday delivered to your house edi
[20:14] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: hehe

Tuesday, 2006 October 10 (18:51:29)
[18:51] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: halo
[18:51] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: how is the status of the processor
[18:52] :[E:[S:[P:[: still on my try
[18:52] :[E:[S:[P:[: awaiting reply from u
[18:53] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: from me?
[18:57] :[E:[S:[P:[: yes
[18:59] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: what reply
[19:02] :[E:[S:[P:[: the terms and conditions
[19:03] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: huh
[19:03] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: where
[19:03] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u make me blur
[19:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: can u say things clearly
[19:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u say things here a bit there a bit, susah nak faham
[19:12] :[E:[S:[P:[: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=54&t=320714
[20:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i have done my part
[20:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i sent u back the processor
[20:05] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: what do u want now
[20:05] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: just make it clear
[20:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: any action u want thinking to do

Wednesday, 2006 October 11 (17:44:39)
[17:44] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: halo
[17:53] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: sigh
[17:53] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: deaf again

If you have a customer like this....
What will you react?
I am so lucky that could save all the logs..........

where is the last part, today punya?

As per requester.........

lastest chat logs:-

[17:44] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: halo
[17:53] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: sigh
[17:53] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: deaf again
[23:57] :[E:[S:[P:[: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...0&#entry8767360
[23:59] :[E:[S:[P:[: lets finish up there......
[23:59] :[E:[S:[P:[: I dont want to delay this problematic issue
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ya
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u lansi ma just now
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: "what u can do"
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: very lansi ma
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: show off now lo
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: ppl side u
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i just want answer frrom u
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u keep quiet
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: very pandai
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: now everyone say i wrong
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u happy lop
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: correct?
[00:00] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: if u want to settle
[00:01] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u will give me answer fast 1 la
[00:01] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: need to drag until today meh
[00:01] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: just say la
[00:01] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: im hoping u to post this up
[00:01] :[E:[S:[P:[: post which up?
[00:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: now 1 lo
[00:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u like to play black and white ma
[00:02] :[E:[S:[P:[: posted already
[00:02] :[E:[S:[P:[: but no one reply yet....
[00:02] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: those things u say in phone no black and white 1 ma, so u can accuse me lying 1, u oredi win black and white ma
[00:03] :[E:[S:[P:[: this topic will be hot...
[00:03] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: why u need ppl to reply
[00:03] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u need supporrtt b4 say anything?
[00:03] :[E:[S:[P:[: i need ppl judgement
[00:04] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: up to u la
[00:05] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: whatever u say, u oredi win ma, those things talk on phone no proof 1, so u can say anything u want and get any support u wanty
[00:05] :[E:[S:[P:[: i will let you know the outcome once the forum got finalise...
[00:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: yala yala up to u la
[00:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i dont care also
[00:06] :[E:[S:[P:[: Thanks for the understanding...
[00:06] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: thanks for making me make donation to beggar
[00:08] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: now only u making noise after buat tak tau for sometime
[00:08] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: nice strategy
[00:08] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: i should learn that next time
[00:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: u can continue keep quiet there
[00:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: keep quiet is the thing loser will do and it will gain some sympathy from forumers
[00:12] My New Webbie : http://www.yeohws.com: nice tactic also

avenger, Espionage wants u to state what sort of solution u want now:

1. Refund
2. Replacement CPU

initially..my personal warranty is 1 week.
buyer got the goods on saturday / sunday.... I post on friday, i think...
but i've receive back the faulty items on monday....
it have been passed personal warranty period..

asked u if i send on saturday, is it ok? u say ok on phone? then saturday i sms u, u no reply, how i know u agree or not? so i just send back on sunday la.

both side also wrong, u want me to bagi muka u only ar?

So r u gonna cover warranty that 'over'? Otherwise what solutions have u proposed to avenger?

what solution ar? he just avoid my sms on saturday afternoon, meaning he win oredi, no need to refund at all. now he say i totally wrong. next time i should do this if i want to sell faulty items, good lesson this 1 from a LYN beggar. nice tactic to minta simpati.

Well, when did the buyer reported the item was faulty? If the request for refund was made during the personal warranty period, then you have to refund.

This post has been edited by mxxuang: Oct 13 2006, 12:34 AM

basically...the warranty period is over....
1 week is 7 days and it is not 8 or 9 days...
you have to know...the 7 days is the duration that starts from the customer got the goods and not the duration i sent the item to the pos office.

basically if the item if faulty the buyer will return the goods immediately to the seller and let the seller to test it to be confirm is it valid or not valid.

Refund is another case....

if the items is not working i will give another unit if i have...if not i will refund...

Well the problem lies in the fact u have both his money n the items.

you are skipping point. i sms u asking is it ok if i send it on sunday, coz all courier service close on that day, of course i cannot send it out. u never reply.

so you would like the final answer to be returned back the procs that he posted to me?

If he request i will post it back......

end of the story...

it's quite obvious from the chat that you r trying to avoid replying ? this is not fair for avenger then u give excuse that it's over. This thread was open on 1st Oct, so it's very obvious that the faulty was reported within 7 days.

now u have the money and the item. I do think u should refund or replace with a working unit and not sit there, assuming nothing happen

The things is reported earlier but the goods does not reach on hand within the time frame...

example...

you bought a hw from lowyat store.
you found it faulty. you made a call to the shop it is faulty....the shop agreed to do warranty in the time frame if the buyer able to return the good within the time frame.
the buyer agreed and promised to be delivered before this the warranty period end.

the shop waits until the warranty is over. finally the good is at the shop.

Nothing the shop can do right now.

All can be done is to return back the faulty goods.

brother, the shop open 7 days a week. They will not avoid their customer and also will pick up the phone to address their customer enquiry.

but u seems to be avoiding by not replying. How the thing is suppose to even reach u if u avoid ? This is not fair at all.

Espionage, nevermind the fact that avenger has annoyed u, u still have to fair when trading in the forum.

1. He did notify u that the item is damage within the warranty period.
2. The damage was cause because the heatsink was install on the cpu and pressure for courier handling caused it to crack.
3. U stated that u knew it took 2 to 4 days sometimes to post it to kedah not to mention it was the feasting month yet u want to hold the 1 week warranty on the date that u posted the item?

pls read the chat logs accordingly before posting this....
i have told the buyer to return it on the next day.

1. He did notify u that the item is damage within the warranty period.
YES I AGREED

2. The damage was cause because the heatsink was install on the cpu and pressure for courier handling caused it to crack.
WHAT IS YOUR POINT HERE?

3. U stated that u knew it took 2 to 4 days sometimes to post it to kedah not to mention it was the feasting month yet u want to hold the 1 week warranty on the date that u posted the item?
DURING FASTING TIME, I AM ABLE TO DELIVER THE GOODS TO HIM IN 1 DAY TIME BUT HE DELAY THE POSTAGE BECAUSE HE GOT NO TIME TO DO THAT. WHICH HE THINKS THAT IS NOT IMPORTANT.

pls get a strong point to post to me....
i felt that most of the question here does not come to the point of RMA.

meaning to say..
your warranty sticker is 10/10/06, you bring the items to the shop on 11/10/06. How will the shop entertain you?

Pls be on the side of business mind. The part is not about considerate case instead of RMA process.

pls bare in mind.

so u still trying to play tricks ? if u say like that, even if u got the item back within 7 days u can actually pretend u didn't receive, then say u got the item back when it's over 7 days so no warranty, happy for you nice trick... but i don't think so it works here.

This post has been edited by Infinity: Oct 13 2006, 01:11 AM

2. The damage was cause because the heatsink was install on the cpu and pressure for courier handling caused it to crack.
WHAT IS YOUR POINT HERE?

My point is I know u r habouring thoughts that he damaged the item by bad handling. My point is u should know full well that u should never pack a cpu with a heatsink install unless the cpu has a heat cap/spreader. But none the less on to the next point:

3. U stated that u knew it took 2 to 4 days sometimes to post it to kedah not to mention it was the feasting month yet u want to hold the 1 week warranty on the date that u posted the item?
DURING FASTING TIME, I AM ABLE TO DELIVER THE GOODS TO HIM IN 1 DAY TIME BUT HE DELAY THE POSTAGE BECAUSE HE GOT NO TIME TO DO THAT. WHICH HE THINKS THAT IS NOT IMPORTANT.

First of u didnt deliver the item in 1 day. Poslaju did so dont make a big deal about it. Now i could go on that u r not a shop that handles items from a distro that has to have the RMA items in a certain period of time so that they send it back to manufacturer or their own tech centres for repairs. No instead i gonna put it clearly for u: u did not state before payment was made that should the item/s be faulty that it has to be delivered by to u by no more than 7 days. U only state when payment was made it was a 7 day warranty so avenger is thinking he has to make his claim in 7 days not send the item back within 7 days. Which if there was a worest case senario, it would have taken 4 days by ur estimation to get to him.

Simon, you left out something


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in another hand he can play trick by denying he didn't get it until it's over 7 days... so anyway he still win... it's just an excuse

This post has been edited by Infinity: Oct 13 2006, 01:20 AM

RMA shop is RMA shop, you deliver to the distro within the time period they'll honour the warranty - that's because they're INFORMED within the stipulated period.

in this deal it is different, don't tell me your warranty period also start from the day you sent to the buyer? cannot be mah, the warranty period only starts when it arrives at buyer place. and within that 7 days (7x 24 hrs) is the warranty period.

if we go by your rationale - it is damn illogical and ridiculous. if buyer discover it even on the 7th day a few hrs before warranty period is over, it's still impossible to claim from your personal warranty as by the time the goods reaches your hand it'll be the 8th day and you'll come with the reason.

this is totally unacceptable. You're cheating n u want to return the procs after the proc is faulty. The seller is delaying time so he can run off his warranty n that is for sure. Not a responsible seller i must say. Anyone agree with me ?

FYI

The warranty period starts from the buyer received the goods...
Please read carefully before you comments.
Thanks.

Anyone got solid comment please come to me.

i have informed the buyer to deliver back the items on the 2nd day....
please read carefully.
I dont want to repeat the thing again again and again.

i have no idea what i am denying....
pls bare in mind when you talking.....

pls read the previous post....how many times i need to explain. dont speculate. Thanks

I cant see the picture. can you post it in directly in the forum....

I am so lazy to entertain your stupid comments with speculation.

1st. Poslaju tracking code prove everythings.

you are so shy to become a trade enforcement.

I think you are great in speculate.

just click on attachment

is it very hard to do? i guess everyone can see it.

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Pls dont guided people silly solutions.

silly solution ?indeed,silly solution only for silly ppl like u,have been following this thread,and if its not because avenger living in kedah,i think he will whack u up personally.

mind to explain why u didnt reply when avenger msg and told u there will be a delay for him to post the item back to you? even if u bought something from the shop,if u phone back and tell them that there will be a 1~2 days late for item returning in polite way, they will understand and accept it,this is what happen on me

ps:i still can see that chat log pic posted by avenger,some silly ppl just trying to avoid from admiting it

pls stick to the point....
dont be out of the scope.
thanks.........

pls let me know which part i did ignore....

pls copy and paste the chat logs.

so which part of my post miss out the point? u cant see the pic posted is your problem,in fact i think all people on lyn can see the pic.(or maybe u trying to admit some stuff)

1st you say even shops don provide service to item that over the warranty period,but in fact for item like yours (2nd hand) they do provide service if advance inform have been done in a polite way

2nd , from the chat log provide,u have been acting silent a.k.a. acting stupid.if you wanna compare your service to a shop,how often you see a shop dont reply customer's call/sms/msn msg?

avenger dude,i doubt u can get your money back,even if winning in fact,certain ppl will just keep silent and no refund will be done.after all just internet id,create a new one and restart the game.

1st of all

I answer all the user's query via phone call. Sometime no, I was sleeping.
I do not answer his sms because he is treatening me.
I already informed him to send back. But he delay the postal.
FYI he send on saturday.

Pls get solid statement to fight. Thanks

Espionage, avenger I want u guys to clarify this for me:

What day did u send the items, avenger?

When did u receive the items, Espionage?

How bout u start coming up with something other than the fact that he "delayed" the postage?

You're the one who needs to get some more solid statements

And the screenshot posted by Avenger is uploaded on the forum
Sure or not u cant see it...ahem

i sent it on sunday, 8th oct, coz all couriers here closed on 7th oct.

he received the item on next day.

i think my office firewall blocks it...
ahem..no need ahem....i just need the point..pls paste it for me...
no offence but everyones offence for pointless.

y you didnt sent it during 2-6 Oct of the time frame?

Simple explaination.

I send the item on 29 Sept and Avenger received at 30 Sept
Avenger send on 8 Oct and I received it on 9 Oct

told u i got no time.

When you told me...as i know that day is 6th Oct....You told me last minute and I do not accept your reason.

So still no other facts other than the delayed shipping?
Not accepting his reason is not a valid reason to deny warranty claims

And wth does "no offence but everyones offence for pointless" mean ?!

The point in the attachment was that you did not reply his MSN msgs telling you he's gonna be sending it late
Those msgs were on the 6th of October
Dont tell me you just decided to ignore him cause u "didnt accept his reasons"?
Come on....u can do better than that

Since when I called I am ignoring him?
I have shown the chat logs.
The answer is there..........
Any strong point. pls post up the chat logs and i will answer u directly.

Well...
Like others have said...
Shop RMA and here RMA are abit different...

He notified u within the warranty period, and said will be late returning it and u agreed..(as he said)

Well...few months back i bought handphone from shop but found it faulty the next day...
So called the shop and they said take it back to RMA, but the shop was far so asked can send back late and they agreed...

i can see the pic just fine, genius. stop being such a nitwit and answer the questions people are asking please. enough of this bullshit already.

i think the chat log is complete?

He let me know the 2nd day the items was faulty i ask him faster send back. but he delay until 5 days. then he sent back. I cant accept it.

if i show u the screen shot...or u come here...will you shut up?

Well its your words against his words, and his words against yours...
He said u agreed and u said u didnt...

pls check the chat logs...weather i agreed or not....
read carefully..............
dont skip the chat logs and critisize me.........

Im not critsizing anybody..
I saw u said u received the proc on saturday.

So is that within the warranty period?

he received the proc on saturday
i received the proc on next next monday.........

The log dated Sunday...
U said u got the proc already?

he made an agreement with avenger to let avenger send his item back on the 2nd day.
but avanger only sent the item on the 5th day which makes him cannot accept it. i mean come on, even if he sent it back on 3rd, the agreement is considered void adi, not to say 5th day.

a party stated that he didnt have much time, another party claimed the warranty is void.

Ok i gonna say my last words here:

Espionage, ur careless packing started this problem.

Espionage, u told avenger to return the item the 2nd day i give u that but u didnt tell him until from what i read in the chat logs u only told him on 05 Oct that he will void his warranty if it fails to reach ur hands by 07 Oct.

Espionage, u were inflexable to allow him a grace period of 4 days past the 7 day warranty since u know it takes to 2-4 days from where u r to reach Kedah if u post by Poslaju. This is a stated fact by u of ur 1st hand experience. Just because this time Poslaju delivered it in 1 day doesn't mean the next time it will. So it happens that the CPU failed at the 7th day of warranty I presume u would have avernger simply charter a helicoptor to personally deliever it to u on that day?

avenger, like us all r affect by conditions in life that may prevent him from dealing with ur warranty conditions immediately. For instantance, he may have long working hours or is required to that week to put in long hours for work. The Poslaju counter nearest to him is not in a reachable time during lunch time due to traffic or its distance or the fact he doesn't have long lunches. Then he might have to deal with personal or family issues first before taking time to send off ur items and with a long work day that maybe at a time when the Poslaju counters are closed.

Finally, Espionage, ur warranty condition stinks of unethical requirements that no shop selling retail products would employ. If anything else this thread displays your trading standards which other LowYat will see and they, themselves will judge whether it is worth the trouble to trade with u or not.

watch your word about stink.....
i have been dealing here since Jan 2003.
This is this 1st time i am here and i would like to have you clarify.

Without the chat logs...
you can ask Avenger directly or place refer to the 1st page of this forum...
he open up this forum on the 1st day he received the goods.
I have told him to send back. all the prove is here.

HOW MANY TIME I NEED TO TELL YOU GUYS, ELITE AKA TRADE ENFORCEMENT TO READ AND READ AND READ.

YOU GUYS ARE BAD READER. I BET FOR SURE.

Ok lets make this straight..

He posted/notified u on the 1st day he got the proc...
U asked for returned, but he was bz and wanted to try fixing it as he dont want to waste money shipping it back and all the trouble.
He finally send it back and u received it after the warranty period.

The problem arise coz your packaging is not good, and u are not lenient on your warranty period..

So case solved?
Too bad for Avenger then, coz u wanna stick with your rules....he has to bear the loss..

The fact of the matter is how u packed the cpu that got him mad n yes he jump the gun a little n made this thread but it was 6 days later he made another post.

The real issue here n its not ur hurt pride as much as u like to think it is, is that u have an extremely constricted warranty condition/requirement which u have not explained to avenger until he said wanted post the items back to u on sunday if possible saturday n improbable friday.

Frankly, i dont give a damn about how long u r trading here. I only care how u treat the current ppl trading with u. Ur past performance does influence a bit on the current opinion but it does not make it current opinion! In other words just because u were sweet to others in the past doesn't u r sweet to them now. N now is what matters the most n not the past!

During the postage there is no one to blame....or else only pos malaysia.....

because i know pos malaysia got so many prob...that is why i gave the buyer 1 week warranty. to let the customer to have a peace of mind.....

So once i receive the good within the time frame...i will do the RMA....

But the buyer refuse to follow my rule...and sacasticly...actacking me instead....

Point...the buyer is not considerate at all...RUDE...and ridiculous...

I am a give and take person...but this person makes me nuts...
If the buyer attitude like this..guys...how to do feel?

it is not the matter of $$$
it is a matter of respectation.

Sorry but why blame pos malaysia?
U should have pack the proc more properly...

Yes RMA (in shop) would follow the time frame, but then here isnt a shop, and its your fault that the proc wasnt packed properly..

Its u that isnt considerate at all...

And btw...1 week warranty ISNT about pos malaysia lousy service...Its warranty if within the time the proc failed..

Btw...I did bought a PIII proc from u cod near klcc if u remembered...
The proc was only wrapped by some thin foam and tied by rubberband..which could bent the cpu pin..

Well I see no respect shown to the seller.

No one will be so free to send a faulty cpu like that, I personally bought 3pcs Tbird 1G from him to assemble PC for my client, none of them fail.

Socket A processor is very fragile item, improper handling will cause the damage to cpu core, that's the reason why a lot of manufacturers refused to build PC product based on this cpu.

Avenger, since you are so "pro" in hardware, why you didn't ask Simon to remove the heatsink fan first?

I list out some steps which both side also missed out:

Espionage:
You should take the photo of the actual items right before you sent out the parcel, to show Avenger there is no crack or chip off on the cpu core.
And then as a seller, you are right because you didn't remove the heatsink fan. The risk of being damaged by postman is much lesser than the risk of being damaged by end user due to mishandling and assembly of heatsink fan by his own.

Avenger:
As a pro, u should aware of the careless ppl from poslaju team.
You have the proper skill and knowledge to make sure the cpu core won't ruin on your hand by installing a heatsink fan on your own, then you should request Espionage to remove the heatsink fan.
That's not the best way for noobs, but that is a better way for you since you know-how.

Nevertheless, I have no comment on the warranty period. If there is any, then Espionage should state there, 1week personal warranty against manufacturer defects, physical damage and any damages due to overclocking will void the warranty.

And again for Avenger, no matter how, this is already your asset, send it promptly for warranty claim is your responsibility.
There is no black and white.

And afterall, please, this faulty item only how much only?
I see so many outsiders shouting like you are one of the victim too, need like that meh?

Peace. Let them settle individually.

This post has been edited by Austin: Oct 13 2006, 10:37 PM

Espionage, the only acceptable solution I find is u return avenger's money or replace the damaged cpu n post back all the items in the original agreement with the replacement cpu instead of the damaged one.

FYI in the Industry Court (civil court) u will have to give at least 21 days warranty with refund on ur product whether the item is new or 2nd hand or used.