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Austin
post Oct 13 2006, 12:42 PM

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Well I see no respect shown to the seller.

No one will be so free to send a faulty cpu like that, I personally bought 3pcs Tbird 1G from him to assemble PC for my client, none of them fail.

Socket A processor is very fragile item, improper handling will cause the damage to cpu core, that's the reason why a lot of manufacturers refused to build PC product based on this cpu.

Avenger, since you are so "pro" in hardware, why you didn't ask Simon to remove the heatsink fan first?

I list out some steps which both side also missed out:

Espionage:
You should take the photo of the actual items right before you sent out the parcel, to show Avenger there is no crack or chip off on the cpu core.
And then as a seller, you are right because you didn't remove the heatsink fan. The risk of being damaged by postman is much lesser than the risk of being damaged by end user due to mishandling and assembly of heatsink fan by his own.

Avenger:
As a pro, u should aware of the careless ppl from poslaju team.
You have the proper skill and knowledge to make sure the cpu core won't ruin on your hand by installing a heatsink fan on your own, then you should request Espionage to remove the heatsink fan.
That's not the best way for noobs, but that is a better way for you since you know-how.

Nevertheless, I have no comment on the warranty period. If there is any, then Espionage should state there, 1week personal warranty against manufacturer defects, physical damage and any damages due to overclocking will void the warranty.

And again for Avenger, no matter how, this is already your asset, send it promptly for warranty claim is your responsibility.
There is no black and white.

And afterall, please, this faulty item only how much only?
I see so many outsiders shouting like you are one of the victim too, need like that meh?

Peace. Let them settle individually.

This post has been edited by Austin: Oct 13 2006, 10:37 PM
Austin
post Oct 15 2006, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(desmand @ Oct 15 2006, 02:02 PM)
Sorry for missing the return of proc part.. notworthy.gif
Since u saying u r a Profesional Business man(& u r proud of it)..I have to admint that u did nothing wrong in the trade with avenger(send the stuff next day, give warranty 7 days & blah blah...).

But when doing the packaging, u act like an idoit wthout logic thinking..How would anybody pack their " Proc+HSF with mobo " together & send through POS LAJU?
Did u provide receipt or any documet to avenger state that the warranty was 7 days, the total price &...U r just simple a pasar malam ah pek selling his proc+mobo+ram...
A pro business man will settle this case wisely, not like how impatient u r.... sweat.gif
I suggest u goto ebay to do ur pro business... thumbup.gif
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I beg to differ, I sent my own used proc + mobo + hsf ONLY together, never seperate them.
Especially for socket A platform, as too many buyers don't have the proper skill to install the heatsink correctly.
This is a fool proof solution for both parties FYI.

I think I had sent more than 20 parcels with this way and no complaint so far.

So u said this seller is idiot, indirectly also said me and other seller sent the parcels with the same way also idiot isn't it? doh.gif

So same goes to PC manufacturers also lah? MUST remove the hsf from PC and ask the end user to do the job? Well very logical thinking eh doh.gif

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post Oct 15 2006, 10:03 PM

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In this conflict, the only arguement we need to look at is, when on earth the proc was damaged:

- on seller hand, before it was packed into parcel
- during the delivery, namely the stupid postman do it
- on buyer's hand before or after the hsf was taken out

Obviously it was during it's delivery trip. Well now is Bulan Puasa a lot of postmen won't have the right mood to get the job done perfectly.
So they would hav threw it further/harder to smash any fragile thing.

If the proc was faulty on Espionage hand, why the 3 set I ordered from him all working?
And as Avenger said he is a pro user too, chances to get the thing cracked by his bare hand also very slim.

So since both parties also did not wish/intend to see this tradegy happened, but after all it has happened, I suggest both of you bear the cost 50/50 or seller 60 buyer 40.

And how come so many poor readers eh? never read properly already want to shoot ppl.
Please post only constructive comments and not to treat this thread as a place to pass time with bad mouth. doh.gif

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post Oct 16 2006, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(avenger @ Oct 15 2006, 10:49 PM)
Austin, you bad mood ar? why everything is in bold 1?
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ya just argued with 1 guy owed me 15k for 1yr+ and still dun want to pay back the debt what do u think? cry.gif
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post Oct 16 2006, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Oct 16 2006, 01:33 PM)
Just curious, what was Austin selling for 15k ?  tongue.gif
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Not sales la, lent the $ to a irresponsible a$$hole friend doh.gif

btw this is out of topic liao, don't ask here anymore about me. wub.gif

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post Oct 21 2006, 12:55 PM

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well a skype or msn conference sounds promising.
A Brief Talk is always better than Typing. smile.gif
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