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This post has been edited by malutapimau: Oct 16 2012, 09:19 AM
Standard SETUP.., Look @ this b4 u plan to setup ICE
Standard SETUP.., Look @ this b4 u plan to setup ICE
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Sep 14 2012, 08:26 AM
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5--yes
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Oct 3 2012, 04:20 PM
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thanks..it was helpful..
but i do realize something here..mine setup was different..i guess.. got 1 HU..2 Tweeter..4x5" Speaker..1xAmp..and 1x12" Subwoofer..all the component installed under 1 amp..the sound boleh didengar la..so,possible ar my setup? |
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Oct 3 2012, 06:50 PM
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still possible,amp is 4channel yes?
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Oct 8 2012, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(aeonic @ Sep 13 2012, 12:02 AM) 1. Pioneer AVH-4450BT 2. Alpine SPR-17S - front 3. Alpine SPS-610 - rear - powered by HU 4. Pioneer GM-6500F - bridged to 2 channel to power the SPR17s 5. Alpine SWE-1000 underseat active subwoofer 6. 0GA power cables 7. Caliber CR-5 RCA cables. 8. Dynamat 4 door + trunk - 1 box 9. No brand speaker cables. I have an extra audio control xs4, is it recommended to use the xs4 and make the system to active and take away the spr's crossovers? Will this be a better setup? i also feel u can use 4awg power cable instead of 0awg and use the money saved to get better speaker cables |
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Oct 18 2012, 12:23 AM
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erm can anyone mind to explain what the diffrent between 2way full active and 2way full range?
erm are those setup same like diagram below also? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by mfcm: Oct 18 2012, 12:25 AM |
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Oct 24 2012, 12:51 PM
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yes
2way fullrange = 2way speaker (like tweeter + midbass) that plays full frequency range |
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Oct 30 2012, 11:43 PM
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Recently know a friend who taught me some info on ICE.
He does recommend to go for High-Mid-Sub setup than Front-Mid-Sub setup. From my understanding (on what he explained to me), high-mid-sub (would be usually for the 4-channels amp to power up the midbass + tweeters (take out the crossover) and subwoofer either powered by another 2-channels amp or utilising active subwoofer. Front-mid-sub would be 4-channels amp to drive a component speaker set and another 2 channels for the subwoofer. Which setup is more likely to be recommended for SQ setup? As I see, most ICE shop does recommend front-mid-sub setup. Is it because of the cost or it does sound better than high-mid-sub? * Assuming the component speaker set is 2-way. |
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Oct 31 2012, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Oct 30 2012, 11:43 PM) Recently know a friend who taught me some info on ICE. from your description:He does recommend to go for High-Mid-Sub setup than Front-Mid-Sub setup. From my understanding (on what he explained to me), high-mid-sub (would be usually for the 4-channels amp to power up the midbass + tweeters (take out the crossover) and subwoofer either powered by another 2-channels amp or utilising active subwoofer. Front-mid-sub would be 4-channels amp to drive a component speaker set and another 2 channels for the subwoofer. Which setup is more likely to be recommended for SQ setup? As I see, most ICE shop does recommend front-mid-sub setup. Is it because of the cost or it does sound better than high-mid-sub? * Assuming the component speaker set is 2-way. id say front - mid - sub however your description is just vague as hell and i believe you're getting the terms incorrectly. also why would you take out the crossover if you're not gonna have an active setup/processor? from your post alone, id say forget what your friend taught you about ICE |
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Nov 24 2012, 09:02 PM
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erm..sorry guy,need help abit bout tweeter and mid range location..the location of those tweeter and mid range must be ventrical with tweeter on top,mid range at bottom?is there any prob if horizontal,the tweeter must abit higher than mid range?yeah it for A-pillar ..tq
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Nov 25 2012, 03:42 AM
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QUOTE(mfcm @ Nov 24 2012, 09:02 PM) erm..sorry guy,need help abit bout tweeter and mid range location..the location of those tweeter and mid range must be ventrical with tweeter on top,mid range at bottom?is there any prob if horizontal,the tweeter must abit higher than mid range?yeah it for A-pillar ..tq tweeters typically on a - pillar or dashboard for those not wanting to mod a pillars/spend on custom fiber glassmid (3 ways) typically below tweeters around a-pillar location too mid bass (and mid for 2 ways) typically on the door kick panel |
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Nov 25 2012, 11:51 AM
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yup i know bro the midbass on the door panel..jus wonder bout mid+tweeter on the pillar.coz the space between pillar and meter not wide enuf..if dont want to put higher on the pillar,will it be ok if put horizontal for both mid and tweeter?or the tweeter shud be abit higher than mid
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Nov 25 2012, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(mfcm @ Nov 25 2012, 11:51 AM) yup i know bro the midbass on the door panel..jus wonder bout mid+tweeter on the pillar.coz the space between pillar and meter not wide enuf..if dont want to put higher on the pillar,will it be ok if put horizontal for both mid and tweeter?or the tweeter shud be abit higher than mid so can assume you're doing 3 way setup?well by horizontal, does it mean you're sorta putting on the dashboard? (by meter i assume meter cluster/instruments?) sound stage wouldn't be too ideal, i think what people do is just place if higher, and have it tilting slightly lower maybe other sifu can comment |
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Dec 12 2012, 11:08 AM
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can lah, ive used that way before on the jazz for competition, its all about trial and error before deciding on a final location, with some compromise of coz
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Dec 12 2012, 04:07 PM
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hi all bro and sifu sekalian,
I am having some problem of connecting my head unit (one pair of RCA) to 4 channel amp. Act, my set up was done by one of the so called sifu at my hometown and he said dat his set up is damn superb whereby his set up with only 8 subwoofer is able to cover another competitor with 12 subwoofer. If found out a lot of setting being done wrongly by this guy. I am using this 4 channel amp to run one set of component at one subwoofer. He used channel a for the component set and channel b for the subwoofer. I found out that for channel b (subwoofer), he chose the setting as off instead of LPF. Act, which one shud be the correct setting for subwoofer? LPF or off? In my opinion LPF shud b the correct setting after going thru ice forum in lowyat. I have drawn two drawing for ur reference. Currently, my set up is connection A but I feel that connection B should be more appropriate. For connection A, i will be getting mono instead of stereo bcs he is connecting the rca (right side) from head unit to channel A for left and right sides. So, which one shud be the correct connection? Connection A or B? Thank you very much for the help!!! |
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Dec 13 2012, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(lozenges @ Dec 12 2012, 04:07 PM) hi all bro and sifu sekalian, i guess Connection B shud b better as u'll get stereo signal for all channels. but hopefully d signal output from HU is strong enuf to be splitted.I am having some problem of connecting my head unit (one pair of RCA) to 4 channel amp. Act, my set up was done by one of the so called sifu at my hometown and he said dat his set up is damn superb whereby his set up with only 8 subwoofer is able to cover another competitor with 12 subwoofer. If found out a lot of setting being done wrongly by this guy. I am using this 4 channel amp to run one set of component at one subwoofer. He used channel a for the component set and channel b for the subwoofer. I found out that for channel b (subwoofer), he chose the setting as off instead of LPF. Act, which one shud be the correct setting for subwoofer? LPF or off? In my opinion LPF shud b the correct setting after going thru ice forum in lowyat. I have drawn two drawing for ur reference. Currently, my set up is connection A but I feel that connection B should be more appropriate. For connection A, i will be getting mono instead of stereo bcs he is connecting the rca (right side) from head unit to channel A for left and right sides. So, which one shud be the correct connection? Connection A or B? Thank you very much for the help!!! getting a HU with 2 pairs RCA pre-out will definitely solve ur problem.... This post has been edited by hcgui: Dec 13 2012, 10:43 PM |
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Feb 23 2013, 11:32 PM
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To sifu-sifu,
Actually at what wattage rating one would normally consider his ICE as SPL setup? I mean there must be some kind of borderline between SQ and SPL? I dont want to waste money on the unused power by buying high rated one. The thing is I plan to get good SQ + decent SPL setup but quite reluctant to go too far as to spend extra for upgrading alternator, adding secondary battery, those huge caps, other whatnot etc etc.. Issit possible? I learnt that grounding cable is a must so besides that I only plan on getting good component set, amps and sub+box as got quite tight budget around 2k at max. So which watt range should I aim, that consider safe for my battery health without those power upgrades? This post has been edited by azyune: Feb 23 2013, 11:35 PM |
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Mar 2 2013, 12:03 PM
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Guys urgently, I got 3 RCA HU, 1 set com , 1 set 6x9 and a 12 inch sub n 4 channel amp.
Can this item all be a setup? Or I need another amp? |
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Apr 22 2013, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 24 2007, 11:47 PM) I using sony HU. Type S. I forget the model. The fella bridge into one channel said it more power to kick my woofer. Then he mai bridge lor. But the component set, I don't think is bridge to 1 channel and i also not so sure.Cause i still can listen stereo sound. Hehe.. I guess not bridge the component. What can i do so that i can use fade and balance function? means can i use a 4 channel amp to push a 12" subwoofer?4 brigde to 1 |
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Apr 22 2013, 04:41 PM
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Apr 22 2013, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Shortyeyek @ Mar 2 2013, 12:03 PM) Guys urgently, I got 3 RCA HU, 1 set com , 1 set 6x9 and a 12 inch sub n 4 channel amp. Can. Front RCA out can go to channel 1 & 2 of the amp to power the front component set. Then Sub RCA out can go to channel 3 & 4 and then connect the sub to these channels in bridge mode. As for the 6x9 speaker, just directly connect to the speaker output of the HU so not powered from the amp but directly from the HU.Can this item all be a setup? Or I need another amp? Note that this is provided that your power amp has sufficient power to drive the component set and sub, and can bridge. If your amp does not have enough power to drive the sub, then need to get 1 more mono or 2 channel amp to power the sub. Then channel 3 & 4 can be connected to RCA out 3 & 4 from the HU to power the 6x9. |
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