yup, just use the 700 for the focal access and run it from the HU first. then start saving up for a decent 2ch amp for the focals for next upgrade.
Standard SETUP.., Look @ this b4 u plan to setup ICE
Standard SETUP.., Look @ this b4 u plan to setup ICE
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May 5 2009, 10:13 PM
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yup, just use the 700 for the focal access and run it from the HU first. then start saving up for a decent 2ch amp for the focals for next upgrade.
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May 7 2009, 11:04 PM
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yup, but u risk damaging the amp or the speakers
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May 13 2009, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(jason_roag @ May 13 2009, 12:12 AM) Hi, good SQ systems usually dont even have any rear speakers. if u feel u need to, then powering it up with the HU is the better choice. in good systems, rear passengers will also hear the front components.From what i gather from the sifus Currently i'm using a pioneer HU which has 2 RCA pre outs and a component set. I'm planning to get a 4 channel amp and a woofer. I understand that the usual set up is 2 channels for the component set and 2 channels bridged for the woofer. Does this mean that the rear speakers will have to be blanked out? or is it ok to power it with the HU. Will it sound weird coz i get the impression that once the woofer is installed, just kill off the rear speakers coz it won't sound nice. But i guess any rear passengers will then only feel the woofer. Can it still work? QUOTE(jason_roag @ May 13 2009, 12:12 AM) Also the guy at the shop did mention 2 RCA will give a fader option for front n back. Not sure he meant fader between the front and rear speakers or fader between the front and woofer. Can anyone clarify? for fronts + sub, since rear pre out is used for sub now.QUOTE(jason_roag @ May 13 2009, 12:12 AM) he also said my panel speakers which i think is 5 inch is a bit too small for any difference but suggested to install the amp and upgrade later. But i think having an amp should provide significant audio clarity even if it's just 5 inches....what do u guys think? are your 5 inch speakers from a component set, or are they OEM speakers? usually first upgrade would be changing oem speakers to components, then only adding amp and sub. if theyre oem speakers having them powered by the amp could kill it, make sure the gain level is low.Alternately, he did also suggest just getting a 2 channel amp to just power the woofer and let the HU power the components(he hinted not much diffrence if power the components) since its running on 5 inch speakers, but i suspect it might be unbalanced. Anyway, it's better to have an option for upgrades right? Added on May 13, 2009, 4:27 pm QUOTE(initial.craig @ May 13 2009, 12:27 AM) Hi to all sifus here, neve h eard of mariola amp before, like mazola cooking oil je, hehe...I'm from Miri, Sarawak here and I plan to upgrade my Hyundai Atos (noob car:() ICE. Recently I went to one shop here and the people there quote me a JBL GTO series component with JBL GT5-12 woofer and a Marriola amp. Is this worth it? Sorry i'm a newbie here. Any comments will be appreciated. why not get jbl amp to complete the set? This post has been edited by zennn: May 13 2009, 04:27 PM |
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May 20 2009, 10:32 PM
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for a 4ch amp to run sub, make sure sub is single voice coil 4ohm, or a dual voice coil 2 ohm wired in series (4ohm load), this is bcoz most 4ch amp are only stable to 4ohm when bridged mono.
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May 26 2009, 11:32 PM
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can, provided the electronic crossover can cross at frequencies high enough for the tweeter..
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May 28 2009, 09:02 PM
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for front usually class AB amp. Class D amp usually for subs, since they cant play frequencies more than 200hz.
difference is them is just their design, not which is better than the other. its not like in school last time, if clever go class A, stupid go class D This post has been edited by zennn: May 28 2009, 09:02 PM |
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May 29 2009, 10:21 PM
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efficient only in relation to power, thats being turned into sound instead of heat, thats all. recently there are class d amps that are able to play full range, however that doesnt mean its better sounding than class AB.
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there are 12 pages in this thread and a lot of good advise on what a good starting system for SQ is.
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Jun 13 2009, 04:54 PM
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get an electronic crossover la....
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QUOTE(spadecrew @ Jun 13 2009, 06:55 PM) yes, the one with speakers is called passive crossover. it divides frequency at speaker wire level, comes between amplifier and speakerelectronic crossover uses rca cables, divides frequency at signal level via rca cables, comes in between head unit and amplifier Added on June 14, 2009, 11:12 pm QUOTE(Martin6706 @ Jun 13 2009, 08:58 PM) Now I using alpine HU with 2 pre-out, 1 for 2 channel amp to play the front component set and another 1 for monoblock to play subwoofer. all sound settings is nice for me now just the subwoofer is abit low although the HU subwoofer setting is max, should i adjust the gain level on the monoblock to get louder? adjusting the gain level will spoil the sq? have u tried playing with EQ yet? try and boost some low frequencies before u play with gain. anyway u can increase gain as long as u know where to stop, so u avoid sending clipped signals and damage your sub.This post has been edited by zennn: Jun 14 2009, 11:12 PM |
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yes, high pass for front speaker amp, low pass to sub amp..
nowadays head units have inbuilt electronic xovers already, so thats another way to go |
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sell the xover and save up for new HU, just use the hi pass and lo pass filters on the amp
can use stock HU with the alpine 4ch first because it can accept speaker level input, no need to buy hi-lo convertor just power just the comps first and later the sub. |
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in car audio, waht u pay is what u get, thats why component set always more expensive than coaxials, and of coz sounds a lot better too.
instead of using amp + coaxials, better use that money just buy component set. add amp when u have budget later on... |
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QUOTE(New_kid @ Aug 25 2009, 04:29 PM) Hi sifus, i'm planning to buy a component set to replace my front speakers. do i need an amp to get better sound quality or just replace the old speakers with the new component speakers? components always sound better with amp, so depends on your budget lah...can also install the amp later, run the components direct from HU first. QUOTE(New_kid @ Aug 25 2009, 04:29 PM) Can i buy a 2 channel amp to power my front components and let my rear speakers directly connected to the HU? If i do this, is there any configurations i need to do to the fader or others? yes you can, that method is highly recommended actually. some dont even bother with rears, kacau the front soundstage only. |
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most 4ch amps can accept input from a single rca, theres a switch for it, should be written something like "sum or separate"
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the one on the right looks like the one in website, so the left could be a copy..?
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cd player, 4ch amp, front components, rear 6x9, kautim....
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Nov 19 2009, 01:24 PM
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engineered, best to change your player, dont waste money on cheap EQ
jaya yup, thats good also.... This post has been edited by zennn: Nov 19 2009, 01:25 PM |
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get an amp, the head unit amp is very very small, not enough, especially for the speakers u stated above. and get the passive xover from your friend, look for a 4ch amp to start with, to power the front speakers (mtx+jbl tweet+xover) and the rear 6x9. the underseat woofer has inbuilt amp inside already. once the tweeter is connected to the passive xover the sound will be better..
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monoblock is a single channel amp, used usually for subwoofers
u can use either 2ch or monoblock for the sub, all depends on what power is required by the sub and how it is wired, if its single voice coil or double no pls do not connect the 2ch amp to both your components and sub your components will not sound better, and either the amp will rosak or your speakers will if u plan to upgrade to better 4ch amp, u can use the new 4ch amp to power both your front components and your sub. use old 2ch for the rear speakers. |
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