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post Aug 20 2011, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(ILikePie @ Aug 20 2011, 07:11 PM)
HU > 4ch > comps + sub?

or

HU > (2ch > comps) + (2ch > sub)

Which setup more worth? hmm.gif
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of course the 1st one. less equipment = less cables, n save space smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2011, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Aug 20 2011, 08:11 PM)
of course the 1st one. less equipment = less cables, n save space smile.gif
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Which setup is better in the long term?
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post Aug 21 2011, 04:02 AM

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1st one if you dont plan to upgrade anymore, 2nd one is more versatile in replacements/upgrades, however costs more, and takes up more space, more cables etc.
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post Oct 12 2011, 08:12 PM

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Thanks to TS upon posted block diagram on 1st pages thumbup.gif notworthy.gif ,at least i understand more... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 1 2011, 05:20 PM

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To all ice sifus, im planning to set up my car with 2 component sets, 1 woofer. can i power my 2 component sets with a 4 chnl amp, and a 2 chnl mono to power my sub? smile.gif

im a beginner ice ><
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post Dec 2 2011, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(3vilb0b @ Dec 1 2011, 05:20 PM)
To all ice sifus, im planning to set up my car with 2 component sets, 1 woofer. can i power my 2 component sets with a 4 chnl amp, and a 2 chnl mono to power my sub? smile.gif

im a beginner ice ><
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yes you can. though, why the hell would you want 2 component sets again? rear?
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post Dec 2 2011, 03:29 AM

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The setup im planning
: 2 component set.
:1 woofer.

im just abit confuse of wat amp i shud use, as in
4chnl amp for my 2 component speakers?
and a 2chnl monoblock for woofer?

not sure whether its sufficient or not =/

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post Jan 10 2012, 05:21 PM

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The ideal recommendation for path to a better sound setup would be following the steps below.

1. Decent HU capable of at least 2 pairs of RCA outputs and crossover control(optional as most amps have it as well)
2. Component set
3. Sound deadening on front doors or at the least minimum, speaker mounting locations, at least double layer(1 square feet on the inner metal behind the speaker, and 1 square feet on the panel where the speakers are mounted)
4a. 2-channel amplifier to power the component set
4b. Add on an amplifier and subwoofer complete with enclosure(box)
4c. 4-channel amplifier, front channels to power the component set, rear channels bridged to power a subwoofer.

Note that I didn't specify any rear speaker upgrades as they are not needed in a regular sedan/hatchback setup. Adding on rear speakers will most of the time only pull the soundstage to the rear which is not we want in a SQ setup.

This post has been edited by GRexer: Jan 10 2012, 05:22 PM
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post Feb 5 2012, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jan 10 2012, 05:21 PM)
The ideal recommendation for path to a better sound setup would be following the steps below.

1. Decent HU capable of at least 2 pairs of RCA outputs and crossover control(optional as most amps have it as well)
2. Component set
3. Sound deadening on front doors or at the least minimum, speaker mounting locations, at least double layer(1 square feet on the inner metal behind the speaker, and 1 square feet on the panel where the speakers are mounted)
4a. 2-channel amplifier to power the component set
4b. Add on an amplifier and subwoofer complete with enclosure(box)
4c. 4-channel amplifier, front channels to power the component set, rear channels bridged to power a subwoofer.

Note that I didn't specify any rear speaker upgrades as they are not needed in a regular sedan/hatchback setup. Adding on rear speakers will most of the time only pull the soundstage to the rear which is not we want in a SQ setup.
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not really la ... if u usually have 'guest' in ur cars better put some cheapo rear speaker ... then use ur HU to off the rear speaker when u need some SQ. Otherwise ur guests in back seat only hear boom boom boom ... cool.gif
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post Feb 20 2012, 09:31 PM

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hi,
i have been reading from page 1 to here

I just wana ask....what is the replacement unit for alphine 9855 currently
117E ???

as 9855 hard to get i guess
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post Feb 20 2012, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(nomoredfox @ Feb 20 2012, 09:31 PM)
hi,
i have been reading from page 1 to here

I just wana ask....what is the replacement unit for alphine 9855 currently
117E ???

as 9855 hard to get i guess
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wow amazing, didnt think people would read through the pages thumbup.gif

IINM, 9887 is the 117e replacement
do correct me if im wrong since im not familiar with older alpine models, especially the higher end ones
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post Feb 20 2012, 11:34 PM

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9855-->9886-->9887-->117

i think.
even 9887 new is hard to find nowadays.

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post Feb 21 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Feb 20 2012, 11:34 PM)
9855-->9886-->9887-->117

i think.
even 9887 new is hard to find nowadays.
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post Feb 21 2012, 08:53 PM

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den need to do some readings
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post Feb 23 2012, 01:07 PM

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ops, i just sold off a 9855 to a weird guy, then i accidently got stock for 9887 and 117 is actually the replacement of 9887 with slightly lesser tuning features......

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post Feb 26 2012, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:11 AM)
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Hehe, got 1 9887 letting go, interested pm me
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:30 AM

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Need sifu advice newbie for ICE,

if i buy 2 channel AMP and max 800w and the Subwoofer max 400w i got dual.
is it possible i using 1 channel 400w go for 1 sub with 1 cable? and another channel2 got with another subwoofer with other cable2 ? so is it possible to separate dont using 1 cable go to first subwoofer and extend connect to the second sub ?
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post Jul 12 2012, 10:08 PM

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may be possible, however you wont like the result smile.gif
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post Jul 13 2012, 11:34 AM

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just wire the dual voice coil sub to the monoblock with parallel wiring, the amp output will become double
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jan 10 2012, 05:21 PM)
The ideal recommendation for path to a better sound setup would be following the steps below.

1. Decent HU capable of at least 2 pairs of RCA outputs and crossover control(optional as most amps have it as well)
2. Component set
3. Sound deadening on front doors or at the least minimum, speaker mounting locations, at least double layer(1 square feet on the inner metal behind the speaker, and 1 square feet on the panel where the speakers are mounted)
4a. 2-channel amplifier to power the component set
4b. Add on an amplifier and subwoofer complete with enclosure(box)
4c. 4-channel amplifier, front channels to power the component set, rear channels bridged to power a subwoofer.

Note that I didn't specify any rear speaker upgrades as they are not needed in a regular sedan/hatchback setup. Adding on rear speakers will most of the time only pull the soundstage to the rear which is not we want in a SQ setup.
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Chief, taking on the above suggestion, i really wanted a sub but donot want to sacrifice the boots and the slimmer sub amp is not able to fit under the car seat. current stock,

Sedan 4 door car.
Rear - 2 6x9 3 way speakers
Front - mid range and separate tweeter
amp - 4 channel

I feel like replacing 6x9 with woofer and pehaps installed 2 tweeter at the back, else ppl sitting at the back will hear boom boom only, unless I can play with the Fader. Anyone installed such set-up.

Thanks.

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