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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoise V2, Shell reptiles please enter here...

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jaredx
post Jan 27 2007, 01:33 PM

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whats the best way to package tortoise for delivery? someone told me put inside the plastic with full of oxgen? i scare it will burst .... any good ideas? doh.gif


Added on January 27, 2007, 9:17 pm
i want to cry some1 bought the tortoise that im interested!!!!!!!!!!! !@#$%^&*() cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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dEviLs
post Jan 28 2007, 06:27 PM

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Hi guys, have a few questions on star tortoise:

1) Do i need to provide them with a water dish?
2) I m using corn cob pellets as bedding, is it fine?
3) I m not suppose to feed them high protein food right ?
4) Do I need to bath them ?

Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Jan 28 2007, 06:27 PM)
Hi guys, have a few questions on star tortoise:

1) Do i need to provide them with a water dish?
2) I m using corn cob pellets as bedding, is it fine?
3) I m not suppose to feed them high protein food right ?
4) Do I need to bath them ?

Thanks in advance  biggrin.gif
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here's a quick answer for ur question

1. yes u need all living thing drink water biggrin.gif
2. im not very sure on this, i heard some ppl said cord cob pallet got toxic or something but im not very sure on this, someone plz correct me on this thanks. however most of us use wood chip as bedding.
3. yes you are right, only greens smile.gif
4. it's a good practice to soak them everyday, this is to allow them to release their poop and urate, which is crucial in preventing bladder stone.

hope this give you some basic idea about ur question, hope other sifu will add something also, especially the 2nd answer. smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(hwa107 @ Jan 28 2007, 08:35 PM)
here's a quick answer for ur question

1. yes u need all living thing drink water biggrin.gif
2. im not very sure on this, i heard some ppl said cord cob pallet got toxic or something but im not very sure on this, someone plz correct me on this thanks. however most of us use wood chip as bedding.
3. yes you are right, only greens smile.gif
4. it's a good practice to soak them everyday, this is to allow them to release their poop and urate, which is crucial in preventing bladder stone.

hope this give you some basic idea about ur question, hope other sifu will add something also, especially the 2nd answer. smile.gif
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Thanks alot, that helps biggrin.gif

About the drinking water, do I need anti-clorine for that ?
And also whats the best way to soak them ? Like how deep the water should be and the temperature. I read somewhere that 40c is ideal unsure.gif

http://www.cngui.com/Article/Special/yinxing/Index.html
Also found this useful site, but in Chinese blush.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Jan 28 2007, 08:43 PM)
Thanks alot, that helps biggrin.gif

About the drinking water, do I need anti-clorine for that ?
And also whats the best way to soak them ? Like how deep the water should be and the temperature. I read somewhere that 40c is ideal unsure.gif

http://www.cngui.com/Article/Special/yinxing/Index.html
Also found this useful site, but in Chinese blush.gif
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i think no need anti-chlorine lar, i just use tab water, never use anti-chlorine. the soaking water level should never higher than ur star's nose, better just reach "dagu" there, around 1cm like that, and the temperature i never measure it lar but i make sure it's not too hot and warm enough for a human baby to bath into lol soak it around 20min ok oledi.

i went to the website and click an article to read, i found this interesting fact

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在野生下的印度星,有着大家都还不知道的秘密。
    他们吃肉~!
    幼体们,生活在河边和丰富杂草树林下面。因为在原产地的天敌实在太多了。为了逃生,呵呵。
    这样,在那样的环境下,就有了很多的熟透的果实,动物的死尸和昆虫。
    幼龟们会使劲的吃他们,使劲的成长。这些都已经被观察到了。
basically it says that in the wild, baby star do eat meat!! in order to survive, baby star will eat bugs and other animal body, so that they will grow fast and outgrow other predators.

that's interesting... blink.gif
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post Jan 29 2007, 03:15 PM

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sry a nubi here. whats is this '0.1.0 Star Tortoise' means? as we can see here hwa107's 0.1.0 Star Tortoise (Betty). thanks.
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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jan 29 2007, 04:15 PM)
sry a nubi here. whats is this '0.1.0 Star Tortoise' means? as we can see here hwa107's 0.1.0 Star Tortoise (Betty). thanks.
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The first colum is for male the second female the last colum is sex unknown Juv.

For example 1.0.0 is one male , 0.1.0 is one female 0.0.9 is 9 Juv sex unknown
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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Jan 29 2007, 03:22 PM)
The first colum is for male the second female the last colum is sex unknown Juv.

For example 1.0.0 is one male , 0.1.0 is one female  0.0.9 is 9 Juv sex unknown
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he's right!! thumbup.gif
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post Jan 29 2007, 03:48 PM

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owh~ ic ic. put mine also lah.
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post Jan 29 2007, 09:25 PM

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From experience.... woodchips is better. Tortoise tend to pee alot, when corn cob become wet, it will harbour bacteria and mold.... also, corn cob is small and can get stuck on wet genitals. Another fact is that corn cob can accidently be eaten by tortoise, so kinda dangerous since can cause impaction.

For me, I use a mixture of woodchips and wood pellets. Gives good results and I do spot cleaning once a week while major cleaning only when the wood pellets become mushy.
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cat litter does the job nicely. it's cheap too. wood chips tend to trap moisture if not monitored properly.

for adults, you may try neo peat (can get at nurseries, about RM14-15 for a whole lot of them). the bacteria in the substrate breaks down faeces and such, so the substrate lasts longer, no smell whatsoever. much cheaper than wood chips. however, it is troublesome for baby torts as the substrate could stick to wet parts.

me and uzairi learned this from someone who refused to be known biggrin.gif

hwa: torts should drink water that we drink, plus occasional calcium supplement. untreated tap water is not advisable...

jared: found your answer yet?

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Jan 28 2007, 06:27 PM)
Hi guys, have a few questions on star tortoise:

1) Do i need to provide them with a water dish?
2) I m using corn cob pellets as bedding, is it fine?
3) I m not suppose to feed them high protein food right ?
4) Do I need to bath them ?

Thanks in advance  biggrin.gif
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I will answer the 3 question for you since others had already answered your question. About the food, leafy green are recommended like sawi(mustard green) for their daily staple food and alternate them with bendi(lady finger), kacang buncis(french beans), kacang pangjang(long beans), Exo Terra Tortoise pellets and once a month labu(pumpkin) as pumpkin is a good natural dewormer and good for their stomach.

QUOTE(dEviLs @ Jan 28 2007, 08:43 PM)
Thanks alot, that helps biggrin.gif

About the drinking water, do I need anti-clorine for that ?
And also whats the best way to soak them ? Like how deep the water should be and the temperature. I read somewhere that 40c is ideal unsure.gif

http://www.cngui.com/Article/Special/yinxing/Index.html
Also found this useful site, but in Chinese blush.gif
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40c is a bit too high i can say, just make it lukewarm.



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post Jan 31 2007, 03:05 AM

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and may i add... kangkung is not advisable for stars because they may refuse other greens altogether once they tasted kangkung. and kangkung might cause calcium binding right?

good food includes hibiscus flower and leaves, grape leaves, opuntia. hibiscus and grape leaves are not tasty, so the torts might not like them but they are rich in fibre. and i don't think that the majority of us would cut their opuntias...

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post Jan 31 2007, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 31 2007, 02:48 AM)
cat litter does the job nicely. it's cheap too. wood chips tend to trap moisture if not monitored properly.

for adults, you may try neo peat (can get at nurseries, about RM14-15 for a whole lot of them). the bacteria in the substrate breaks down faeces and such, so the substrate lasts longer, no smell whatsoever. much cheaper than wood chips. however, it is troublesome for baby torts as the substrate could stick to wet parts.

me and uzairi learned this from someone who refused to be known biggrin.gif

hwa: torts should drink water that we drink, plus occasional calcium supplement. untreated tap water is not advisable...

jared: found your answer yet?
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i use neo peat for the land area of my box turtle. good substrate. only problem is whenever he's hyperactive, some of the neo peat gets into the water everytime he climbs out from the water and back into the water. need to regularly suck it out


QUOTE(uzairi @ Jan 31 2007, 02:51 AM)
I will answer the 3 question for you since others had already answered your question. About the food, leafy green are recommended like sawi(mustard green) for their daily staple food and alternate them with bendi(lady finger), kacang buncis(french beans), kacang pangjang(long beans), Exo Terra Tortoise pellets and once a month labu(pumpkin) as pumpkin is a good natural dewormer and good for their stomach.
40c is a bit too high i can say, just make it lukewarm.
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my boxie doesnt like sawi but loves kangkung. my wife says because "kurax2 kampung" x makan sayur2 import haha
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why no1 offer me any radiated tortoise... since i post the thread in garage sales there... no1 selling or i look like a tricker? im so tired of looking a radaited... help me... i went to ikea... only got 1 big radiated there... dont have any smaller for sell... im serious buyer........ cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(jaredx @ Jan 31 2007, 08:49 PM)
why no1 offer me any radiated tortoise... since i post the thread in garage sales there... no1 selling or i look like a tricker? im so tired of looking a radaited... help me... i went to ikea... only got 1 big radiated there... dont have any smaller for sell... im serious buyer........  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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....because you specifically mentioned high-yellow. which is harder to get. and more expensive than normal...
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post Jan 31 2007, 11:36 PM

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yes its hard..... thats y just want wide yellow center now.... is that hard too? new pic updated in [WTB] thread... price high a abit i dont mind..... no radiated no mood for CNY... lolz doh.gif
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dang this turtle topic goes down like nobody cares? where is the love man?

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post Feb 3 2007, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Feb 3 2007, 07:57 AM)
dang this turtle topic goes down like nobody cares? where is the love man?

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lol.. ur tortise so lucky.... still stay in house. my let my tortise stay outside house bcoz my tortise like to sun bathing... n my tortise is too big to keep in aquarium. luckly my dad bought one tank for me put those tortise... laugh.gif

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post Feb 3 2007, 03:12 PM

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wah so big meh~ so put la the pictor. kamon. spread the love

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