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SAMPERTH
post Jan 3 2007, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(scaleslithers @ Jan 3 2007, 12:50 PM)
user posted image
cuora ambonensis + RES in 1 large (make that ginormous) enclosure
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I think i know where you snap that photo In a Croc farm somewhere in Borneo

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post Jan 3 2007, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(rumizu @ Jan 3 2007, 04:59 PM)
uzairi..
i have two Red Eared Slider.. named Kame & Kappa..
btw, how do i know their gender.. and one more thing, how big can they grow?
//they always do the knockČ on the aquarium..
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If given proper care and space some can reach 11 inches but only female reach that size .Male max out around the 6-7 inche mark
But average size will be around the 7 - 8 inches mark

The slider 's gender can be determine by three way
- The faster growing sibling most properly female
- Adult Male posses longer front nails (use in mating ritual to arouse female )
- Adult male longer tail
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post Jan 3 2007, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Jan 3 2007, 10:18 PM)
runny nose? wat do you mean by runny nose? how to see it?
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Discharge like in human having flu/cold
Or in worse case they blow bubble from the nostrils
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post Jan 4 2007, 05:12 AM

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QUOTE(rumizu @ Jan 3 2007, 10:23 PM)
thanks uzairi and samperth..
btw, tort also can kena selsema eh?

is knocking on the aquarium is normal for the slider?
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Ya chelonian can get selsema
If serious can kill it and treatment not easy if tortoise or turtle already weaken may not respond well to treatment

The "knocking on the aquarium " do they swim downwards into corner and keep doing that
If so they just trying to get away from something provide a hide (broken flower pot will solve problem)

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post Jan 4 2007, 12:30 PM

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Just guesstimation
From the dooming of the cuora ambonensis shell i would say sub- adult around the 6 - 8 inches range


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post Jan 7 2007, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(jaredx @ Jan 7 2007, 06:26 PM)
is there anyone always go to thepetsafari or any other petshop which got sell TT,  take some photos n upload to here....  hehe drool.gif rclxms.gif
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U mean take pic while in pet shop to post here

Unless that pet shop is yours or own by very good friend where got pet shop allow people take pic without buying

Personal pet picture possible lah
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post Jan 18 2007, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Jan 18 2007, 12:29 AM)
Hey whats happening? Why so quiet in TTT?  rclxub.gif

Anyway hope everyone is fine. Saw a lot of Snake Neck turtle in LFS lately...must be their season now...anyone get hold of them? Look cute laa with its long neck...wink.gif Wonder if its hard to take care? Otherwise can be my pet considering the price is not high...

Any new turtles or tortoises that you all saw in petshop recently? Please share your info! Terima kasih!
Kamekame.
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kamekame8888
Is that Radiata on your avator yours looks like an adult and very nice

Snake neck turtle are not hard to keep just that the bulk of them like live prey ie fish ,prawn, worms and when fed live food they grow fast
Can also be train to take fish pellets but some just wont accept
Most of them dont bask only a small percentage of them and breeding female bask
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post Jan 18 2007, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jan 18 2007, 12:21 PM)
boss anywhere here got dandelion lah. super common la that plant. just look around your house surroundings. sure got meh.
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Are you sure it is the same Dandelion - Taraxacum officinale
Dont just assume yellow flower producing plant with similar leaves are dandelion
Can you snap some pictures and post here to show us all

Here in Australia they are really everywhere from spring to early winter (Oct to June )
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post Jan 18 2007, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 18 2007, 11:03 AM)
it's a carnivore sayasebuk dude. prefers live prey. you'd be damn lucky if they'd take veges  rclxms.gif  nice pet actually and growth rate is quite similar to RES.

i got some hatchling RES killed by rugosas (......my stupid mistake) but they are not that aggressive to me. about that neck, well.. it's not that easy for them to bite if handled from behind.

p/s: hi sam, uzairi. nice to see you here...
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camillenoir

Enlighten me on the rugosas thing what is it a kind of plant (Rose) or ????
How they kill RES or ingested ???

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post Jan 19 2007, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Jan 19 2007, 02:36 AM)
can anyone tell me mar plz? appreciate ur help..
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Every of my trip to KL I will see them in Aquarium shop or pet shop, things may have changed you will never know
Have you try Toby pet in Pet Safari (Ikano )

Are there non in Miri ??? Over in Sabah almost all Aquarium shop will bring a few in to sell (when I was there ) I will ask my cousin see if those shop still stock them
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 19 2007, 10:26 AM)
Almost every LFS got...
Macrochelodina rugosa = Chelodina rugosa and Chelodina siebenrocki combined. Something like they found out that sibenrocki is an invalid species (not enough morphological differences with rugosa) and classify them as Macrochelodina rugosa. They of course snap-attacked small RES till dead.
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Thanks for telling me now I know Is the size difference great ??
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QUOTE(camillenoir @ Jan 19 2007, 02:39 PM)
the 3 adopted RES were about 2" scl. i put them in an aquarium with two 6" snakenecks to let them share some UV light. the rest is history.

trying to think of it... i wonder why i didn't put them with the slightly bigger res instead of rugosas  doh.gif (maybe my subconcious mind just wanna play with the idea of feeder res)
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No wonder the RES end up feeder RES as the size difference is too much the 2 " RES is only like 50 % bigger than the head of the snake neck and the shell are still " soft " from hatching
The snake neck see the baby RES as food rather then tank mate
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QUOTE(kamekame8888 @ Jan 19 2007, 03:04 PM)
Hi sam, no that is not my Radiated tort, i got the picture from the webbie. I havent seen such big Radiata my own eyes but i sure wish it was mine smile.gif Thanks on the advice for the Snakeneck.
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http://www.perthzoo.wa.gov.au/Animals--Pla...iated-Tortoise/

The biggest one I saw was in Perth Zoo from estimation I think in the 12-13 inches range maybe larger The Domed Shell make them so special
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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jan 29 2007, 04:15 PM)
sry a nubi here. whats is this '0.1.0 Star Tortoise' means? as we can see here hwa107's 0.1.0 Star Tortoise (Betty). thanks.
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The first colum is for male the second female the last colum is sex unknown Juv.

For example 1.0.0 is one male , 0.1.0 is one female 0.0.9 is 9 Juv sex unknown
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QUOTE(athlonxp @ Feb 12 2007, 07:34 PM)
need help here

my 9 yrs old tortoise suddenly refuse to eat since last week  cry.gif

i dont know wat kind of tortoise it is..but it look exactly like this

http://www.chelonia.org/cyclemysdentataJM5.jpg

i got her when she climb into my house 9yrs ago.. biggrin.gif

food that i usually give her is kangkong, banana, turtle food sold in pet shop, watermelon, honey dew and some green vegetable left from cooking

i let her out under the sun for few times a week
wat should i do now? help
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You refer to your turtle as she /her are you 100 % sure it is a she or has she laid some eggs before
My first thought could she be gravid (loss of appetite)or egg bound if it is a she
You have done everything right (diet seem OK sun basking enough)
Can you take a pic of your turtle underside with the tail showing or the overall shape of your turtle as if your turtle is the same specie as the pic you posted shape can be used to sex them (adult)
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post Feb 13 2007, 12:02 PM

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From picture the rounded shell does point the finger that it is a she but from base to anus part of tail is saying it is a he (as this specie has long tail in general )

It must be a hatchling when you got him (climb into house) as 9 years on it is still quite small (I would say about 7 inch SCL)

Another thing could be internal parasites Have you worm it in the 9 years you got it ??? As with daily outing in the garden it is sure to pick up something nasty

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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Feb 20 2007, 12:04 AM)
just to add some updates today. now my quad res are more than 4in scl. 1 of them has developed a strong thick d***. his tail seems longer and bolder. wow. this fella can do real damage! his plastron now concaver than before. a natural preparation for a natural pleasure i supposebiggrin.gif

the female res now more hostile towards me. she just hate to be touched. she bites, and i ended with white, clamped skin and it turns to red in no time. and dang it hurts. she the only female, so b17chy -ness is good. jual mahal beb.

pellets need to supplied in larger quantity now. 8 months back, they cant even eat pellets. i fed them with tubifex worms. but now, they easily eat the pellets with 1 ngap. dang expensive pellets. hagen nutrafin and wardley's are their fav. plus meal worms, 2 times weekly.  wink.gif

just hope they are not mating now. im moving to setapak this april. so moving with some eggs are nightmare. that's all for now. ok! thanks!

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LEVIATHAN

The res you are refering to is Red-eared Slider -Trachemys scripta elegans I presume

Even thou the male may/may not start showing interest towards female but I am 100 % that female at 4 inch - 6 inch will not lay eggs even if mated / not mated to

From what I know RES 's male only grow longer nails thicker longer tail and no concave plastron

Have you got another species or ???? I would love to see your RES's concave plastron
PLS do post their pics
THANKS in advance


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post Feb 20 2007, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Feb 20 2007, 06:53 PM)
dear SAMPERTH,
ya ya res is red eared slider. i pwn them 4. and oh that's good if the female wont produce any egg in near future. i love to have a pastel res. haha. but absolutely not now. im not ready. i dont have neither a basking lamp, nor sand for eggs. later later.

about concavity of the male res' plastron. maybe im wrong but the word concave means curving in or hollowed inward. and i do believe that plastron of a male res, do concave. and here is a link to confirm this.  biggrin.gif  i have pictor of them, but not the plastron. hehe.

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Are the four RES your first RES or have you had other RES before as I have seen many adult RES be them Male or female NO male RES has a concave plastron
That link is just teaching you to sex M and F turtle in general not just slider species
Pls do post your RES 's plastron pic (the concave part ) would really love to see that (eye opener )

Thanks
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QUOTE(hivemy @ Feb 22 2007, 10:27 AM)
My Star Tortoise is sick! icon_question.gif

I think it got flu? Or bitten by something?

- Nose is watery and comes bubble (could be flu)
- Always sleeping for 2 days without eating
- Eyes is always sleeping, watery
- Don't want to eat
- After opening eyes for few seconds, it goes back to sleep
- Sometimes it walks with eyes closed.

icon_question.gif any tort doctors advise? icon_question.gif
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Watery Nose could also mean allegeric to small dust particles stuck in nose

But bubbles only mean flu - Runny Nose Syndrome (RNS)

Could be easy to treat if preventive measure like vitamin given regularly

High humidity in tropical monsoon season usually cause species from drier area have RNS

And the eye are they sunken or puffy and watery too ???



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post Feb 22 2007, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(boigamaniac @ Feb 21 2007, 07:05 PM)
Impressas, impressas, impressas.
I 'm Impressed very Impressed with one of the rarest tortoise in captivity in the world


Added on February 22, 2007, 10:44 am
QUOTE(hivemy @ Feb 22 2007, 11:35 AM)
Yeah, the eyes are watery too!

icon_question.gif So what should I really do to help my tort?
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I need more information like where are the tortoise kept , in and on like in fish tank on saw dust as substrate or ????
If just allergic to dust particle easier to reticfied than if RNS caused by bacterial/fungal/viral infection





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