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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!

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Albert B
post Feb 17 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(zedyll @ Feb 17 2015, 01:56 AM)
I bought a used 1999 Iswara not long ago (I'm 4th owner LOL). So i went for general inspection in a workshop nearby town.
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After two weeks of O-ring replacement and carburetor tuning, here's my spark plug condition:
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From the plug pictures, your engine seems to be in quite good condition for a 15 yr old car - no fouling from valve seal leak, the plug colour fits very well in those plug reading guides for good engine condition. Even your plug ground electrode shows timing heat marks (see attached).


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post Feb 17 2015, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Feb 17 2015, 12:59 PM)
From the plug pictures, your engine seems to be in quite good condition for a 15 yr old car - no fouling from valve seal leak, the plug colour fits very well in those plug reading guides for good engine condition. Even your plug ground electrode shows timing heat marks (see attached).
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Thank you very much for the guide bro! notworthy.gif thumbup.gif
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post Feb 17 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 17 2015, 02:10 AM)
good job DIY thumbup.gif
consider replacing valve cover gasket as well nod.gif

as for engine oil, can ignore the value before w, and yes xw40 is a very common viscosity for our 4g1x engine.
Proton originally specified xw50, Mitsubishi overseas specified xw30 with very old API rating, so i went with that laugh.gif
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There's plenty of EO debate for old engines like iswara....I became unsure. unsure.gif Thanks bro for the advice! thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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post Feb 17 2015, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(zedyll @ Feb 17 2015, 05:23 PM)
There's plenty of EO debate for old engines like iswara....I became unsure. unsure.gif  Thanks bro for the advice!  thumbup.gif notworthy.gif
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and i have full intentions to end such debates biggrin.gif
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post Feb 17 2015, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 17 2015, 05:26 PM)
and i have full intentions to end such debates biggrin.gif
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No need nod.gif Can use any kinda oil, even minyak angin cap kapak also can use if jiu bai a vios nod.gif

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post Feb 17 2015, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 17 2015, 05:30 PM)
No need nod.gif Can use any kinda oil, even minyak angin cap kapak also can use if jiu bai a vios nod.gif

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post Feb 17 2015, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 17 2015, 05:30 PM)
No need nod.gif Can use any kinda oil, even minyak angin cap kapak also can use if jiu bai a vios nod.gif

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post Feb 17 2015, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(zedyll @ Feb 17 2015, 06:55 PM)
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Albert B
post Feb 17 2015, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Feb 17 2015, 05:30 PM)
No need nod.gif Can use any kinda oil, even minyak angin cap kapak also can use if jiu bai a vios nod.gif
http://batu25.blogspot.com/2009/06/palm-oi...ubricating.html
http://tipsjimat.blogspot.com/2011/04/mint...nti-minyak.html
http://z3.invisionfree.com/saga_utara_forum/ar/t111.htm
http://www.jagakereta.com/info-penjagaan-k...nyak-hitam.html
http://frontlines.name/index.php?topic=606.15


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Albert B
post Feb 17 2015, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(zedyll @ Feb 17 2015, 01:56 AM)

..... can i use 10W40 for my engine? I'm still using old engine oil when got the car from the dealer. He said the engine oil was changed. I don't trust that guy.  wink.gif  [/b] icon_question.gif
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Here is the page from the Iswara owner's manual for the engine oil:


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post Feb 18 2015, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Feb 16 2015, 04:02 PM)
From your description, it is your CV joint gaiter that is broken, and the rotation is sending grease to the shaft, the track arm etc?

Not sure of the costs as my gaiters for CV joint are still ok (surprisingly for more than 10 years). From past experience, the rubber gaiters are not expensive, unless you have to change the CV joints too. see this website:
http://tacra.blogspot.com/2011/02/driveshaft-boot.html
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I got it wrong, it is the drive shaft, as seen in tacra blog.. Will change it after CNY, thanks! smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2015, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 16 2015, 04:21 PM)
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growth will be unlikely. the car is no longer under production anyways.

if we can maintain this thread... for as long as i own the car (most likely forever i hope!), then i'm satisfied already nod.gif
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As new user of gaga, I like this thread rclxms.gif


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post Feb 18 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Azure_01 @ Feb 18 2015, 08:25 AM)
I got it wrong, it is the drive shaft, as seen in tacra blog.. Will change it after CNY, thanks! smile.gif
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your steering rack already kaput?
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post Feb 18 2015, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Azure_01 @ Feb 18 2015, 08:28 AM)
As new user of gaga, I like this thread  rclxms.gif
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post Feb 18 2015, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(zedyll @ Feb 17 2015, 01:56 AM)

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Would de-greasing the distributor and hosing it down with water jet be advisable? Opinions? hmm.gif
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post Feb 18 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(ca2n @ Feb 18 2015, 12:45 PM)
Would de-greasing the distributor and hosing it down with water jet be advisable? Opinions? hmm.gif
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From my experience, it is not advisable to hose down the distributor unless you can remove all the moisture afterwards. When I washed the engine compartment, the moisture somehow found its way inside the distributor and the next morning, after a few kms, the moisture evaporated and moved around inside and shorted, resulting in engine stalling. 15,000 volts can easily find the moisture as short cut.
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Feb 18 2015, 01:40 PM)
From my experience, it is not advisable to hose down the distributor unless you can remove all the moisture afterwards. When I washed the engine compartment, the moisture somehow found its way inside the distributor and the next morning, after a few kms, the moisture evaporated and moved around inside and shorted, resulting in engine stalling. 15,000 volts can easily find the moisture as short cut.
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Good to know! rclxms.gif
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post Feb 18 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(ca2n @ Feb 18 2015, 12:45 PM)
Would de-greasing the distributor and hosing it down with water jet be advisable? Opinions? hmm.gif
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Initially thinking of that, but considering high voltage flows through it.....nahh....i use tissue and old clothes only.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zedyll @ Feb 18 2015, 02:48 PM)
Initially thinking of that, but considering high voltage flows through it.....nahh....i use tissue and old clothes only.... sweat.gif
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Consider degreaser on tissue/paper towel /cloth in smaller /diluted amount, and then finish off with ipa (isopropyl alcohol)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 18 2015, 03:30 PM)
Consider degreaser on tissue/paper towel /cloth in smaller /diluted amount,  and then finish off with ipa (isopropyl alcohol)
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Thanks! notworthy.gif I cleaned the distributor's certain parts only since no degreaser....still nasty. doh.gif
I will get one soon! thumbup.gif

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