QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 23 2017, 08:53 PM)
caltex fuel already got this inside. ron97 has most. i stopped buying after one bottle.LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!
LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!
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Sep 25 2017, 12:24 AM
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Sep 25 2017, 09:47 PM
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Sep 25 2017, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 24 2017, 11:08 AM) It seems this starting difficulty is a characteristic of Iswaras; Thanks for your info, my one same as you. warm engine need to crank few times only can start. I experienced this even when the car was new. 1) Cold engine : Starts instantly when cranked. 2) Very hot engine (immediately after stopping) : Starts instantly when cranked. 3) Warm engine : Need to crank about 3 to 5 seconds. 4) Immediately after engine run-on/dieseling occuring at shut-off: Need to crank 5 or more seconds. Pumping the petrol pedal does not seem to help. So far I have not come across any explanation of this issue. I believe it has to do with the interaction of following in some way, and is not a symptom of some fault: a) choke operation (air bleed for cold & hot state), b) EGR (which operates after certain temperature), c) remaining fuel clinging to the walls of the manifold, carb throat etc. d) hot idle compensator air bleed, e) petrol fumes inside the intake/carb. Pumping the petrol pedal also not help and found more difficult to start. |
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Sep 25 2017, 10:46 PM
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Sep 25 2017, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 24 2017, 11:08 AM) It seems this starting difficulty is a characteristic of Iswaras; Try floor the pedal when warm start.I experienced this even when the car was new. 1) Cold engine : Starts instantly when cranked. 2) Very hot engine (immediately after stopping) : Starts instantly when cranked. 3) Warm engine : Need to crank about 3 to 5 seconds. 4) Immediately after engine run-on/dieseling occuring at shut-off: Need to crank 5 or more seconds. Pumping the petrol pedal does not seem to help. So far I have not come across any explanation of this issue. I believe it has to do with the interaction of following in some way, and is not a symptom of some fault: a) choke operation (air bleed for cold & hot state), b) EGR (which operates after certain temperature), c) remaining fuel clinging to the walls of the manifold, carb throat etc. d) hot idle compensator air bleed, e) petrol fumes inside the intake/carb. step 1. turn key to on position. 2. floor the pedal 3. start the car. 4. after start release as fast as can, to prevent piston fly off. caution to rpm meter, make sure engine run in safe range. this advice from my friends that he had old iswara same engine as lmst. He said it is not a big deal, because actually the engine already started but just in low rpm like around 500 rpm which nearly same as the starter. |
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Sep 28 2017, 02:57 PM
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can the saga lmst meter convert to saga flx meter? Is the both meters are the same size? plan to convert it
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Sep 28 2017, 03:26 PM
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@Albert B Albert, might you be familar with car insurance ? My car had been insured, comprehensive, with AXA up to its 20th year, quite low loading. It's now going into the 21st year, and AXA will only offer third party, plus fire and theft. I was at the post office the other day, and the clerk told me that Tune Insurance will cover comprehensive up to 30 years. Wow, I thought that was very rare. I emailed Tune and they said they have it only up to 15 years. Seems the policies bought thru post office are more relaxed ? How come they have double standards ? |
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Sep 28 2017, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Kbbteoh @ Sep 25 2017, 11:51 PM) Try floor the pedal when warm start. Will try and see, thanks for your info.step 1. turn key to on position. 2. floor the pedal 3. start the car. 4. after start release as fast as can, to prevent piston fly off. caution to rpm meter, make sure engine run in safe range. this advice from my friends that he had old iswara same engine as lmst. He said it is not a big deal, because actually the engine already started but just in low rpm like around 500 rpm which nearly same as the starter. |
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Sep 28 2017, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(Tham @ Sep 28 2017, 03:26 PM) @Albert B I have not made the effort to survey the various insurance companies Albert, might you be familar with car insurance ? My car had been insured, comprehensive, with AXA up to its 20th year, quite low loading. It's now going into the 21st year, and AXA will only offer third party, plus fire and theft. I was at the post office the other day, and the clerk told me that Tune Insurance will cover comprehensive up to 30 years. Wow, I thought that was very rare. I emailed Tune and they said they have it only up to 15 years. Seems the policies bought thru post office are more relaxed ? How come they have double standards ? for the best deals so I am unable to comment on this issue; your info in the posting is more than what I know. Vehicle insurance companies have used the justification of "higher risks" for older vehicles to increase premium loading etc; See: http://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/...old-car-owners/ From what you mentioned, you are getting a better deal than what I have; my company refused to insure comprehensive if the market value is below RM10k or something like that. Once I went to those insurance counters outside JPJ office for a quote (just for curiosity); the premium quoted was more-or-less the same as what I was paying. However, after your posting, I looked up on the so-called POS Malaysia motor-pool insurance ... https://pos.com.my/postal-courier-services/...ices/?insurance ... it does not give details but it mentions a list of companies. So I just lookup some of the companies' websites and there are on-line quotations, e.g.: http://www.renewinsurance.com.my/what-is-mmip/ http://www.renewinsurance.com.my/online-renewal/ https://www.libertyinsurance.com.my/motor/s...es-listing/mmip https://w10.financial-link.com.my/PremiumLi.../insuredquo.jsp https://www.tuneprotect.com/motor-easy-buy/ ( the Tune website is kind of sluggish) I think I will try some of these on-line sites .... By the way, how does the post office sell the insurance; by dealing with the companies on our behalf, or by redirecting us to deal with them? Furthermore, I heard that a Puspakom inspection is mandatory, is it true? |
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Sep 29 2017, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 28 2017, 01:54 PM) From what you mentioned, you are getting a better deal than what I have; my company refused to insure comprehensive if the market value is below RM10k or something like that. Once I went to those insurance counters outside JPJ office for a quote (just for curiosity); the premium quoted was more-or-less the same as what I was paying. I think I will try some of these on-line sites .... By the way, how does the post office sell the insurance; by dealing with the companies on our behalf, or by redirecting us to deal with them? Furthermore, I heard that a Puspakom inspection is mandatory, is it true? If up to 20 years, you can buy comprehensive at AXA. After that, like mine, they will give third party plus fire/theft. Insured $10,000, loading 15 %. They give 10 % discount too, since you are buying direct. If you don't add windscreen cover, premium less than $300. I had been buying at the AXA branch at 37A, Jln SS 15/5A, Subang Jaya, for the past four years. Multipurpose, now called MPI, also emailed me back and said they give to 20 years. Don't know their loading. So I was at post office again yesterday. The girl said she could not check for me yet, since it was still just outside the two month period from expiry. She said insured sum is $8,000, loading around 20%, but you know these counter clerks usually are not sure. Any feedback from friends or relatives about reliability of Tune ? They are new into insurance, so I am a little hesitant. They also seem to have hardly and branches around KL and PJ, other than the HQ at Jln Dungun. Since I am out of a job now, thought maybe just buy the third party plus fire/theft at Axa. Premium probably won't be more than $200. You can buy direct at any Post office, any of companies on their panel. They are supposed to be agents. No, I don't think you need a Puspakom inspection. That's only when you buy a car more than 15 years old, I think. The premiums are standard based on rates for engine size, etc, but the coverage seems more relaxed than buying direct or thru the usual insurance agents. |
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Sep 30 2017, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(Tham @ Sep 29 2017, 02:49 PM) How old is your car ? 1. My car is about 16 years old.If up to 20 years, you can buy comprehensive at AXA. After that, like mine, they will give third party plus fire/theft. Insured $10,000, loading 15 %. ... She said insured sum is $8,000, loading around 20%, but you know these counter clerks usually are not sure. ... You can buy direct at any Post office, any of companies on their panel. They are supposed to be agents. ... The premiums are standard based on rates for engine size, etc, but the coverage seems more relaxed than buying direct or thru the usual insurance agents. 2. The insured value RM8k, 10k seems to be higher than the market value. Last time I check, our Iswara is worth only about RM4 - 5k. Will they reimburse the full insured value or market value in case of total loss etc? 3. If the post office can give better terms, why not take it and let them bear the responsibilities, as stated in the policy documents? This post has been edited by Albert B: Sep 30 2017, 11:48 AM |
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Sep 30 2017, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 19 2017, 10:04 AM) if you compare your headlamps with that of a new car side by side, Below is my headlamp which have its mirror reflective surfacedoes the reflecting surface looks like faded? It is supposed to be like a mirror surface. ... faded after long use. Increasing bulb brightness isn't going to help ... Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Sep 30 2017, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 30 2017, 03:47 AM) 1. My car is about 16 years old. Yes, $8 - 10,000 is much higher than the market value.2. The insured value RM8k, 10k seems to be higher than the market value. Last time I check, our Iswara is worth only about RM4 - 5k. Will they reimburse the full insured value or market value in case of total loss etc? 3. If the post office can give better terms, why not take it and let them bear the responsibilities, as stated in the policy documents? The fact that they can offer comprehensive for such an old car is enough - some companies don't even give third party, and they ask you to go thru that motor insurance pool. That's why I took Axa's policy the last few years. Before that, I bought Multi Purpose at post office, also $8,000, I think, but the loading was higher, 30 percent. Obviously they won't compensate you $10,000 in the event of total loss or theft, but it's useful if, say, your car is badly damaged, with repairs requiring a few thousand dollars. You mean your car now is third party, fire/theft ? This Tune seems to have only one office in the whole of KL and PJ at Jln Dungun. No branches. I was at post office again yesterday, and the girl calculated my premium to be a bit high - $293. |
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Oct 1 2017, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(Tham @ Sep 30 2017, 03:30 PM) Yes, $8 - 10,000 is much higher than the market value. Yes 3rd party, no fire/theft. I thought only comprehensive The fact that they can offer comprehensive for such an old car is enough - some companies don't even give third party, and they ask you to go thru that motor insurance pool. That's why I took Axa's policy the last few years. Before that, I bought Multi Purpose at post office, also $8,000, I think, but the loading was higher, 30 percent. Obviously they won't compensate you $10,000 in the event of total loss or theft, but it's useful if, say, your car is badly damaged, with repairs requiring a few thousand dollars. You mean your car now is third party, fire/theft ? This Tune seems to have only one office in the whole of KL and PJ at Jln Dungun. No branches. I was at post office again yesterday, and the girl calculated my premium to be a bit high - $293. comes with fire/theft. Anyway isn't 3rd party+fire+theft is equivalent of two-thirds of comprehensive in terms of benefits? Your comprehensive comes with loading? I thought only for 3rd party they will load based on age of car & driver. This post has been edited by Albert B: Oct 1 2017, 05:57 PM |
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Oct 2 2017, 11:08 PM
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Can anyone vouch which brand is better for rear absorber replacement? I just need a decent one that works well since my oem one is busted alrwady. Been thinking of getting between sacsh super touring and apm performax
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want to ask
1. when my car starts from cold, e.g., in the morning, the rpm struggles to catch up. sometimes drop to as low as 600 rpm.....normally need to wait for few minutes to ensure smoother driving. anyway to over come this issue? 2. i felt that my car bonnet vibrates alot (i can feel it from my driving seat and dashboard) especially when i'm idle on the road. If on aircon, the situation is worsen. Normally i need to pijak minyak abit to force rpm to go a little higher (the reading while idle with aircon on is around 1000, sometimes is 900, so i need to pijak minyak a bit to let it go around 1100 to feel less vibration and quietness) what should i do to improve the situation? 3. the cat is going to kaput soon, especially front bonnet and roof. I heard of carbon fiber stuff. Good or not, and budget? 4. my fren recommend me install sobar (is it how that is pronounced?), spring (at the rear), is it good? budget? haha 5. he also recommend me change brake oil (coz he sees very dark d), but i go to repair shop, the repair shop says normally they don't change brake oil, only adding. Lol. what should i do? 6. there's a leaking part (see photo), i gg liao? but i see the ground, no leaking wor.....the photo seems like the part is wet. What part is it? repair expensive ma? =( 7. lastly, my fren also recommend changing gearbox. mine is manual. He didn't test drive my car, just suggest only. What's your opinion on it? 8. i heard of installing what iswara changing engine to 4g15 for better fc. Should i go for it? 9. those rubber rubber stuff. I heard changing is quite expensive, especially the engine part where it needs to be mounted. Is overhaul same meaning of mounting? Thank you =) 2005 Iswara LMST 1.3 Manual Blue reporting in... Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Oct 7 2017, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Oct 6 2017, 09:17 PM) want to ask Below are my quick comments; details are available in previous1. when my car starts from cold, e.g., in the morning, the rpm struggles to catch up. sometimes drop to as low as 600 rpm.....normally need to wait for few minutes to ensure smoother driving. anyway to over come this issue? 2. i felt that my car bonnet vibrates alot (i can feel it from my driving seat and dashboard) especially when i'm idle on the road. If on aircon, the situation is worsen. Normally i need to pijak minyak abit to force rpm to go a little higher (the reading while idle with aircon on is around 1000, sometimes is 900, so i need to pijak minyak a bit to let it go around 1100 to feel less vibration and quietness) what should i do to improve the situation? 3. the cat is going to kaput soon, especially front bonnet and roof. I heard of carbon fiber stuff. Good or not, and budget? 4. my fren recommend me install sobar (is it how that is pronounced?), spring (at the rear), is it good? budget? haha 5. he also recommend me change brake oil (coz he sees very dark d), but i go to repair shop, the repair shop says normally they don't change brake oil, only adding. Lol. what should i do? 6. there's a leaking part (see photo), i gg liao? but i see the ground, no leaking wor.....the photo seems like the part is wet. What part is it? repair expensive ma? =( 7. lastly, my fren also recommend changing gearbox. mine is manual. He didn't test drive my car, just suggest only. What's your opinion on it? 8. i heard of installing what iswara changing engine to 4g15 for better fc. Should i go for it? 9. those rubber rubber stuff. I heard changing is quite expensive, especially the engine part where it needs to be mounted. Is overhaul same meaning of mounting? postings in this thread. Need to search for them to give a full reply. 1) First, the autochoke needs to be checked whether it is working. If it is, then the cold idle screws need to be adjusted. UPDATE: Your car still have the thermostat or have been removed? 2) For this one, the hot idle screw/air-cond fast idle screw need to be adjusted, can be done easily. 3) --- 4) sobar = absorber (damper)? Sway bar? Stabiliser bar? 5) Brake fluid needs to be changed at certain intervals, and is mentioned in the Proton owners service manual. 6) Maybe it is the rocker cover seal, not very expensive. But let the mechanic check so as to confirm. 7) Why change gearbox, is it to auto? 8) --- 9) Overhaul is not mounting. Overhaul is to take apart the engine or gearbox etc to renew stuff, refurbish parts, service/clean things ... Mounting bushes are the rubber wear parts for the engine mounts, suspension track arm etc. I am not sure if the workshops change the little rubber pieces instead of the whole unit (example the lower track arm). This post has been edited by Albert B: Oct 7 2017, 08:14 PM |
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Oct 7 2017, 10:11 AM
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tq...appreciate a lot =)
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Oct 8 2017, 01:01 PM
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my saga 2004's clutch bearing for compressor has started to produce unwanted sound..how to fix it?
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