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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!

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kuang85
post Jun 14 2017, 02:34 PM

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Hi,sifu
I want ask regarding my 1990 saga auto, the day my foreman friend adjusted the rpm. Now the engine seems quite a bit, but when aircond is on and free gear; the engine is vibrating. It becomes normal if turn off aircond.
So, the rpm should adjust to higher or lower like now?
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post Jun 15 2017, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(hawk1lo @ Jun 14 2017, 06:43 PM)
in this condition i think you can tune the idle rpm to higher a bit (around 1k)  to compensate for the vibration during aircond on, for manual car i adjust this, not sure autos got any different.
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Last time it was tune to 1k rpm like that. But the day my friend say the engine a bit noisy and tune it lower a bit.
So, I also not sure whether which one is correct. Anyway, thanks for your info.
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post Jun 30 2017, 03:51 PM

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Hi, need get some advice from you guys.
My 1990 old saga auto gearbox got oil leaking and 2nd gear need warm up or wait engine to be hot first only can run or change gear.
My friend suggested me to overhaul it instead change the record one cause we don't know the condition. I have quotation to overhaul it at RM 1050 and 3 months warranty. Is it reasonable? One foreman quote me at RM1600 and six month warranty. Thanks
kuang85
post Sep 23 2017, 08:46 PM

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I need some advice from all sifu


This post has been edited by kuang85: Apr 14 2019, 09:05 PM
kuang85
post Sep 23 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 23 2017, 09:15 AM)
Hi , anyone use those fuel injector cleaner before ? I saw it in the supermaket , plan to give it a try . Should I pour in the whole bottle to the fuel tank ? Or just a little proportion only ?
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I did try Caltex one before, instruction is pour whole bottle into fuel tank and fill the petrol.
My colleague suggest "Mayvel mystery oil", it can pour into fuel tank and also engine oil. I will try it on next oil change.
http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/index.php/site/mmo/
kuang85
post Sep 25 2017, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 23 2017, 08:53 PM)
how's the result ?  biggrin.gif Is it effective enough ?
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not much different, haha.
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post Sep 25 2017, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 24 2017, 11:08 AM)
It seems this starting difficulty is a characteristic  of Iswaras;
I experienced this even when the car was new.

1) Cold engine : Starts instantly when cranked.

2) Very hot engine (immediately after stopping) :
Starts instantly when cranked.

3) Warm engine : Need to crank about 3 to 5 seconds.

4) Immediately after engine run-on/dieseling occuring
at shut-off: Need to crank 5 or more seconds.

Pumping the petrol pedal does not seem to help.

So far I have not come across any explanation of this issue.

I believe it has to do with the interaction of following
in some way, and is not a symptom of some fault:

a) choke operation (air bleed for cold & hot state),
b) EGR (which operates after certain temperature),
c) remaining fuel clinging to the walls of the manifold, carb throat etc.
d) hot idle compensator air bleed,
e) petrol fumes inside the intake/carb.
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Thanks for your info, my one same as you. warm engine need to crank few times only can start.
Pumping the petrol pedal also not help and found more difficult to start.
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post Sep 28 2017, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kbbteoh @ Sep 25 2017, 11:51 PM)
Try floor the pedal when warm start.
step
1. turn key to on position.
2. floor the pedal
3. start the car.
4. after start release as fast as can, to prevent piston fly off.

caution to rpm meter, make sure engine run in safe range.

this advice from my friends that he had old iswara same engine as lmst. He said it is not a big deal, because actually the engine already started but just in low rpm like around 500 rpm which nearly same as the starter.
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Will try and see, thanks for your info.
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post Apr 14 2019, 08:46 PM

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Hi guys,
Anyone got solution to share or face this problem before?
My 1990 4G15P Saga Auto, morning and cold start very nice.
But after the engine is hot, very difficult to start. Ie: park after 20min.
Changed new battery, spark plug, starter , distributor, air filter, petrol filter, plug cable....but problem still occur.
Recently found one foreman, he did service the carburettor and tuning.
Now is better a bit ( when weather is not so hot) , but during afternoon and hot weather still very hard to start.
Need to Hold the gas pedal to the floor only can start. sad.gif
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post Apr 15 2019, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 14 2019, 09:39 PM)
You could try checking the carburetor auto choke, maybe consider tuning it very slightly richer, do carburetor cleaning using threebond if you haven't done before.

Then on engine side, check valve seals and valve clearance.
Consider using thinner engine oils like w30/w40 fully synthetic especially from Lazada/Tesco/giant sales.
Remember to buy reputable brands from reputable sellers.

Make sure the spark plugs are at the correct heat rating, check if they are fouling or not.

Is the replaced distributor brand new original APM? if not, can consider replacing that.
Plug cables so long original Bougicord/Bosch, should be ok.
No comment on other aftermarket.

The starter you can consider a bigger one like from old Perdana, can consider recond.

Don't floor your pedal during starting, do light taps at most else you risk flooding the carburetor which would make your starting even more difficult.
The way you've explained, perhaps even your fuel lines may have clog or issues, maybe can check that as well.
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Hi, thanks for your info.
Carburetor done service and cleaning.
Distributor is recon one.Plug cable "cap ayam" biggrin.gif
Starter is high speed type.

Will try thinner engine oil on next service.
Now left valve seals and valve clearance side not yet checking....
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post Jun 24 2021, 11:33 AM

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Hi, I found oil on floor and suspect oil leaking from ac compressor.
Is it safe to drive without on aircon?
Found oil leaking and oil smell once start engine ( without on aircon )

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