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post Nov 3 2014, 08:26 AM, updated 11y ago

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Time for a new thread for the bullish Nov rclxms.gif

News To Look Out For For The Weeks Ahead
"The U.S. midterm elections will be the key focus of next week, while Friday’s U.S. jobs report and Tuesday’s earnings report from Alibaba will be watched closely by investors. And next weekend, all eyes will be on a couple of big events in Europe.

Midterm Elections
Control of Congress hangs in the balance as U.S. voters head to the polls on Tuesday. While many signs indicate the GOP may gain control of the Senate, races are too close to call in at least eight states that could determine the outcome of the election. The latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows Republicans are clinging to a narrow lead on the question of which party likely voters want to see in control of Congress.

U.S. Jobs Report
We’ll learn on Friday whether the U.S. continued its steady employment gains in October, when the Labor Department releases its monthly jobs report. Job growth in the past 12 months has hit its healthiest pace in more than eight years, with employers adding an average of 227,000 jobs a months since the beginning of the year. The unemployment rate fell to 5.9% in September, its lowest level since 2008. Here are 5 things to watch next week on the economic calendar.

Alibaba Earnings
Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba reports its first quarterly earnings on Tuesday since its record $25 billion initial public offering in September. The company’s shares have been marching higher after bottoming at $82.81 on Oct. 15, and the numbers could well determine where they go from here. Other big earnings next week include Sprint and AIG on Monday; 21st Century Fox, CVS and Priceline on Tuesday; Time Warner, News Corp and Qualcomm on Wednesday; and Disney on Thursday.

Catalan Vote
The wealthy Spanish region of Catalonia is planning a symbolic vote on independence on Nov. 9. The voting process is informal, but that hasn’t stopped Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy from preparing a possible legal challenge to block it. While many Catalan independence supporters initially criticized the balloting format as lacking credibility, more Catalans have come around to embracing it as a show of resolve.

Berlin Wall Anniversary
Germans will celebrate the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, which led to the country’s reunification, on Nov. 9. Locals will be reminded of the scale of this historic event by a light installation that will run along the former course of the wall, dividing the capital city temporarily. Chancellor Angela Merkel will also open a new exhibition at the Berlin Wall memorial and witnesses will tell their stories of how the event unfolded." - WSJ

http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2014/10/31/we...eport/?mod=e2tw
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uncertainty? bull? bear? bla bla bla? only time can tell. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 3 2014, 09:13 PM)
uncertainty? bull? bear? bla bla bla? only time can tell.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I'm tired of bull.. Now, its' over 2000, please let bears take it down one more time. tongue.gif

Like to see these two areas to be re-tested before year end:
50MA 1968
200MA 1912



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rclxm9.gif all time high again. Bear please take it down one more time whistling.gif

btw anyone here have experience setting up multi-monitors pc?
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would be interesting to see that gap filled if bears take it down at 2050. hmm.gif

LOL Gartman
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 3 2014, 09:46 PM)
I'm tired of bull.. Now, its' over 2000, please let bears take it down one more time.  tongue.gif

Like to see these two areas to be re-tested before year end:
50MA  1968
200MA 1912
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brows.gif a drop right down to 200MA would be spooky.
although im inclined to expect a booming retail 4Q thanks to lower gas prices..
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Crystal Ball Forecast :- Buy in Nov sell in May ?
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Nov 3 2014, 11:10 PM)
Crystal Ball Forecast :- Buy in Nov sell in May ?
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Nov at all time high now sweat.gif
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Poor bears thanks to BOJ .... after BOJ taper....who's nexts for super QE?
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After Japan then is Europe.

After Europe then US

After US then Japan

After Japan then Europe...

And the balls goes on..



When is Malaysia turn?
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 3 2014, 10:56 PM)
Hey guys, here's some funny jokes from CNBC presented for the audience:

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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 4 2014, 01:33 AM)
If you think that's a funny joke, here's how I sense a topping market...



seriously? am I being introduced to futures trading by 5-year-old-kid
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rclxms.gif good short videos that explain futures!

you shifting to futures now?

woo new high~ 2020 coming rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Nov 4 2014, 12:35 AM)
After Japan then is Europe.

After Europe then US

After US then Japan

After Japan then Europe...

And the balls goes on..
When is Malaysia turn?
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In Malaysia, we will have to wait and see if the property market can go kaboom! brows.gif
Then, BNM will step in and does it own version of QE thingy.


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hows the number?
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looks like that Encana/Southwestern play is looking unlikely.
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dollar is breaking through the roof laugh.gif
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Holy cow... Oil dropping like flies. Now at WTI @ 77 , Brent @ 83.

Saudi said they'll sell higher price to Asia than N.America to try to compete with shale drillers..
That means we (in Asia) won't see prices drop in petrol anytime soon... while pumps in N.America are dropping. wtf? mad.gif


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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 4 2014, 10:53 PM)
Holy cow... Oil dropping like flies.  Now at WTI @ 77 , Brent @ 83.

Saudi said they'll sell higher price to Asia than N.America to try to compete with shale drillers.. 
That means we (in Asia) won't see prices drop in petrol anytime soon... while pumps in N.America are dropping.  wtf?  mad.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 4 2014, 10:53 PM)
Holy cow... Oil dropping like flies.  Now at WTI @ 77 , Brent @ 83.

Saudi said they'll sell higher price to Asia than N.America to try to compete with shale drillers.. 
That means we (in Asia) won't see prices drop in petrol anytime soon... while pumps in N.America are dropping.  wtf?  mad.gif
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that's downright confusing, does it mean that the Brent/WTI gap should widen?
here i thought it was a ploy to prepare for a russian winter laugh.gif
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for this kind of "political gap" without the economic fundamental support, i doubt it is going to last long. laugh.gif
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Could oil be the deflationary pressure to counter against the world QE ?
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Nov 3 2014, 11:10 PM)
Crystal Ball Forecast :- Buy in Nov sell in May ?
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Are you still in casinos - gaming play?

LVS - seems to be stuck in twilight zone for past 3 months. Same goes for MPEL.

Something not right about the latest their hope for opening Japan. hmm.gif
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Factory orders negative MOM for second month now. noted could be seasonal but .. macro seems shaky.
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icon_idea.gif expecting futures to trade between 1994-2003 range and build some volume around this range

gonna do some scalping here and there brows.gif hopefully can minimize getting whipsawed this round sweat.gif

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2000 coming... tongue.gif
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WTI for December now is 76
Brent is 82

Hmm
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Nov 5 2014, 12:49 AM)
WTI for December now is 76
Brent is 82

Hmm
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It's getting narrower... demand destruction coming.
The oil producing countries are fighting for market share now. Let see who can last longer if they don't cut production. tongue.gif







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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 4 2014, 11:20 PM)
Are you still in casinos - gaming play?

LVS - seems to be stuck in twilight zone for past 3 months. Same goes for MPEL.

Something not right about the latest their hope for opening Japan.  hmm.gif
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I'm not playing with casino stocks, I'm investing and still hold it since year 2009 .
Anyhow, some of their dividends already covered my cost of purchase.
Japan, Vietnam, S.Korea expansion will be good, but with gradually growth in
Las Vegas,Nevada and sustain Macau's revenue/profit, shld be good for long.
Will not plan to relocate/change this portfolio. Will put my extra money into bank (LYG),
aim for distributing earning profits thru dividends or get home building/construction(BZH)
when there is an opportunity.
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Republicans take the Senate.
Keystone back in play? brows.gif

TRP/XOM/VLO

wow USDJPY 114, USDMYR 3.34


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US futures are up.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 5 2014, 01:16 PM)
Republicans take the Senate.
bullish sign. brows.gif
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With republican big win....so which sector will be in bullish play?
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 5 2014, 08:57 PM)
short glance at futures, looks like ALL sector
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forgot to mention, in SWN 33.81 within the last 30 mins right at the upper trend channel. following breakout.
ECA monitoring.

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Tat day.. gunmen in canada parliament brought the bear out.

now saudi oil pipe explosion... and oil rebound

i wonder... is this natural or artificial cause???

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must be some bugger long a lot crude oil contracts and infiltrate the oil pipe

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how convenient for a saudi pipeline to 'explode' just right after the halfterms.
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 6 2014, 12:03 AM)
two weeks before 9-11 happened, some w4nk3rs loaded hell bunch of PUT options on all 4 indices, an enormous bunch of puts that made Soros' 2bil SPY PUT options looks like fine sands from the seashore.
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So far... no oil spike yet.

Republican wins means more drilling in USA.
USA will reduce their imports from 30% to 0%. OPEC will be on their kneels by then. brows.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 6 2014, 01:36 AM)
So far... no oil spike yet. 

Republican wins means more drilling in USA.
USA will reduce their imports from 30% to 0%.  OPEC will be on their kneels by then.  brows.gif
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OPEC move of selling cheap oil is kind of stupid, i think. It's hardly a strategy, just a short term pill. What next? Lower and lower forever? Who hurt the most? Themselves or who? America? China? And America would lower oil production because of this move? Serious, they thought so? whistling.gif

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OPEC move of selling cheap oil is kind of stupid, i think. It's hardly a strategy, just a short term pill. What next? Lower and lower forever? Who hurt the most? Themselves or who? America? China? And America would lower oil production because of this move? Serious, they thought so?  whistling.gif
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I think the Saudi wants to bankrupt mostly small oil producers first.. because their cost is higher.
Then, they will expand their market share and jack price up later.

I think Malaysia is very vulnerable here... let see how the govt will react.


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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 6 2014, 04:44 AM)
I think the Saudi wants to bankrupt mostly small oil producers first.. because their cost is higher.
Then, they will expand their market share and jack price up later.

I think Malaysia is very vulnerable here... let see how the govt will react.
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If that is true.. It will be another 6 months to 9 months affair in the low oil prices.. Good enough period to see most company bust as all oil and gas companies are usually highly geared..

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so we'll get to hear Draghi's wisdom again later.
let's see what's on the table

EURUSD to 1.20?
dropping TLTRO rates?
another bazooka to supplement the shots fired by Kuroda?
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on a sidenote, just noticed that this is the month that ECB begins buying asset-backed securities..
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 6 2014, 06:53 PM)
so we'll get to hear Draghi's wisdom again later.
let's see what's on the table

EURUSD to 1.20?
dropping TLTRO rates?
another bazooka to supplement the shots fired by Kuroda?
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on a sidenote, just noticed that this is the month that ECB begins buying asset-backed securities..
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japan + ECB = Fed QE continues? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 6 2014, 07:45 PM)
japan + ECB = Fed QE continues?  tongue.gif
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mama had to let go of the market's hands for a while but mama's always there brows.gif
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 6 2014, 10:07 PM)
As of right now, crude oil is back to the exact same price before yesterday's saudi's pipeline explosion. Crude futures @$77.72. [TOS chart type /CL]

If you follow my "tips" yesterday, should look to cover 1/2 of the position and move the remaining to +10 ticks from entry.
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U trade futures with optionsxpress as well? sweat.gif I just remember that tos/td don't allow Malaysia account holder to trade futures yet doh.gif
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 7 2014, 02:42 AM)
Yup I am at the highest clearance level (level 5, margin account) and special requested for futures trading.
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Whats the rate (RT all in) they giving you? Mind to share?
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 7 2014, 02:57 AM)
You need minimum $25k in your account to trade 1 contract for safety measure. As for the rates, don't worry too much, small amount only
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$25k minimum is the PDT rules. I think that doesn't apply to futures contract (at least for emini) hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 7 2014, 03:08 AM)
Hmm, I guess different account size varies then since I am being listed as large trader status atm.
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 7 2014, 03:15 AM)
TD Ameritrade is offering $0.90 flat rate per contract on options to me ever since I showed them my account size and position in OX. But I am still considering lol.

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thumbup.gif tats a good rate, can consider coz it's easier to do everything in one platform -at least for me laugh.gif

I think if anyone concern about the commission, just switch to IB and use TD chart(free), thats the best rate available in the market. No need waste time negotiating with other brokers and no need to own a super big account with whatever VIP status thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(morning06 @ Nov 7 2014, 03:31 AM)
thumbup.gif  tats a good rate, can consider coz it's easier to do everything in one platform -at least for me  laugh.gif

I think if anyone concern about the commission, just switch to IB and use TD chart(free), thats the best rate available in the market. No need waste time negotiating with other brokers and no need to own a super big account with whatever VIP status  thumbup.gif
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Agree, TDAM fees are a fair bit higher per trade - but useful for the commission free ETFs (for long term holdings)

Any way to get free data feeds in IB so we don't have to use both at the same time?
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Agree, TDAM fees are a fair bit higher per trade - but useful for the commission free ETFs (for long term holdings)

Any way to get free data feeds in IB so we don't have to use both at the same time?
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IB do provide free data feeds, its just that its not live ticking data last i know. They push the chart screenshot to you on the time interval you set.

If you want free ticking data, TD is the only one that I come across that have huge historical data and excellent live data feeds considering it's free. And with all the good study and research tools thumbup.gif

You're trading ETF mid-long term right? So live ticking data shouldn't be a big concern to you?

P.S I have no business interest with either laugh.gif
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IB do provide free data feeds, its just that its not live ticking data last i know. They push the chart screenshot to you on the time interval you set.

If you want free ticking data, TD is the only one that I come across that have huge historical data and excellent live data feeds considering it's free. And with all the good study and research tools  thumbup.gif

You're trading ETF mid-long term right? So live ticking data shouldn't be a big concern to you?

P.S I have no business interest with either  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Nov 7 2014, 03:54 AM)
Yeah, IB provide 15 minutes delayed data for free - for live data they charge.

I mostly hold ETFs for long term, options every now and then, and some short selling of ETFs through IB
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Ohh, does IB have something like data feeds fee waiver if you trade above "x" amount each month? I believe there was something like this back then hmm.gif
If your strategy can meet that requirement maybe can consider?

Ohh btw, great effort with the ETF info thumbup.gif

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Ohh, does IB have something like data feeds fee waiver if you trade above "x" amount each month? I believe there is something like this  hmm.gif
If your strategy can meet that requirement maybe can consider?

Ohh btw, great effort with the ETF info  thumbup.gif
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Yeah, they have a waiver if trade above a certain amount of commissions per month

But because the commissions are quite low and I'm not that active so not enough to get fees waived. Mostly I use IB for buying ETFs in EUR and GBP (TD only allows me to deposit USD)

Yeah I thought ETF thread was a good idea, let's see how it goes.
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Yeah, they have a waiver if trade above a certain amount of commissions per month

But because the commissions are quite low and I'm not that active so not enough to get fees waived. Mostly I use IB for buying ETFs in EUR and GBP (TD only allows me to deposit USD)

Yeah I thought ETF thread was a good idea, let's see how it goes.
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hmm.gif if thats the case i think the low cost way is to rely on TD charts for now. Since you're not actively trading i guess that shouldn't be too troublesome. Maybe you can consider hooking up another monitor -less alt-tabing smile.gif
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hint: 10:15am USD Fed Chair Yellen Speaks

Naming after the infamous "January Effect" symptoms, I am comfortably calling this rally as Yellen Effect.
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Wow.. the jobs numbers are good. 214K private jobs, UE drops to 5.8%.
More fire power for bulls.
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Markets are jumpy i dont know whether its a reaction to jobs being good news or bad news..
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 7 2014, 10:40 PM)
October Nonfarm Private Payrolls 209K vs 230K Briefing.com consensus
consensus is 230k from Briefing and 235k from Forex Factory....which part do you read that as "good"? hmm.gif
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I was only expecting 200k..(Briefing.com has much higher expected number than mine).

The revision for previous month was 31k higher, for July/Aug the net revision was 69k higher initially than reported.
Overall the last 4 months averaged over 220k.

Darn... something indeed is cooking up US economy. No wonder bulls snorting hot.

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Markets are jumpy i dont know whether its a reaction to jobs being good news or bad news..
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Some may want to take profits here... I don't blame 'em. The run up here probably baked in.
Already all time high. SP500 not cheap anymore.

Traders want bad news to bring market down but no bad news.

I'm kicking myself for letting BABA go.. now higher than AAPL. arrh shucks... sad.gif

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Crude bouncing back strong. Broken down trend line.

Winter + Saudi pipe blast = crude going up again for a short while?
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Crude bouncing back strong. Broken down trend line.

Winter + Saudi pipe blast = crude going up again for a short while?
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Not yet.... still within 76-79 range meh
We need to see Oil gets back above $80 for downtrend to break.

If break 75... then, we will see 70-75 the new range.. then something is wrong.
The world is flushed with oil.. no one wants to buy.

Maybe they need to blow up more pipes or start a new war somewhere. tongue.gif

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Or they could slap more sanctions on Russia. Latest flare up in Ukraine could be a good excuse. Take more Russian oil out of the international market.

Iran could be a problem since negotiations seem to be doing well. Most Iranian oil is still off the market. But now that Republicans control both houses of Congress, maybe a deal will be impossible.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 8 2014, 12:22 AM)
Not yet.... still within 76-79 range meh
We need to see Oil gets back above $80 for downtrend to break.

If break 75... then, we will see 70-75 the new range.. then something is wrong.
The world is flushed with oil.. no one wants to buy.

Maybe they need to blow up more pipes or start a new war somewhere.  tongue.gif
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Hahaha..

Blow up more pipes.. You long enough already anot?

Later a few more blow up de la

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TOKYO, Nov 9 (Reuters) - Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is considering dissolving the lower house of parliament and calling a snap election if he decides to delay a plan to raise the sales tax next year, the Yomiuri Shimbun reported.

If Mr Abe does dissolve the Lower House, an election could be held on Dec 14 or Dec 21, the Yomiuri reported on Sunday, citing several government and ruling party sources. Mr Abe has also told members of his party's coalition partner of this plan, the Yomiuri said.



why would Abe risk it? the sales tax hike is already passed into law. he can't be that worried about 3Q/4Q GDP to repeal it.

hmm.gif fuel for bears
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TD Ameritrade is offering $0.90 flat rate per contract on options to me ever since I showed them my account size and position in OX. But I am still considering lol.

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ps: since I am neither posting my real name nor account number hence you can't use this email as argument to ask for better price from TD ameritrade.
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Wow.. the jobs numbers are good.  214K private jobs, UE drops to 5.8%.
More fire power for bulls.
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BLS estimated 137K new jobs from small and new companies. Without this inflated number, the total would be very small.
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How big the account size to get that rate? 6 or 7 figures? Mine is $1.25 flat per contract. Would love to get lower than $1. tq
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They also look at the average number of stock options contracts traded (of course bro J's is in a league of his own notworthy.gif ).

On OX, mine's also $1 per stock options contract and my a/c is definitely below 6 figures cry.gif
BUT (there's always one around tongue.gif ) with minimum $9.95 or higher per trade sweat.gif

FYI - my contracts traded per month averages about 200+/- depending on opportunities for iron-condors or not blush.gif
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nah, needn't 6 or 7 figures.
They also look at the average number of stock options contracts traded (of course bro J's is in a league of his own  notworthy.gif ).

On OX, mine's also $1 per stock options contract and my a/c is definitely below 6 figures  cry.gif
BUT (there's always one around tongue.gif ) with minimum $9.95 or higher per trade  sweat.gif

FYI - my contracts traded per month averages about 200+/- depending on opportunities for iron-condors or not  blush.gif
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nah, needn't 6 or 7 figures.
They also look at the average number of stock options contracts traded (of course bro J's is in a league of his own  notworthy.gif ).

On OX, mine's also $1 per stock options contract and my a/c is definitely below 6 figures  cry.gif
BUT (there's always one around tongue.gif ) with minimum $9.95 or higher per trade  sweat.gif

FYI - my contracts traded per month averages about 200+/- depending on opportunities for iron-condors or not  blush.gif
Just sharing  notworthy.gif
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If you trade option spreads (eg. buy one strike, sell a lower strike), they count that 2 contracts. Correct?
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My bad - as my orders are primarily credit spreads, thus effectively double the average contracts pm - ie 400+/-, not 200 +/- laugh.gif

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so breakout of 2015 is really getting interesting here. Now towards 2070.... drool.gif
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 10 2014, 10:01 PM)
monthly on average 5k-10k contracts with minimum from SPY/QQQ/IWM amounting to 3k contracts, but I am having crappy connection to TOS, thus not considering their offer atm.

TOS platform is like BMW/Mercedez but I am fine with proton atm (OX lol)
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 10 2014, 11:02 PM)
so breakout of 2015 is really getting interesting here. Now towards 2070.... drool.gif
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breaking out from the balance area hmm.gif new high again before closing drool.gif

decided not to trade after the early winning to avoid my consecutive monday losing streak sweat.gif
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China really wanna brother-Russia to compete with US-Euro. biggrin.gif
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haha wives club lol along with a familiar neighbor

http://shanghaiist.com/2014/11/10/xi-throw...way-at-apec.php

XJP looks grim! i havent seen him that stone-faced in ever laugh.gif
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Waah.. BABA reached $117, and I thought $105 was already ridiculously high. doh.gif

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Waah.. BABA reached $117, and I thought $105 was already ridiculously high.  doh.gif
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Should close all position by now, crude futures @$76.56
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haha! thanks for sharing.
so you foresee 1000 coming. interesting. tongue.gif
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if that really happens, some of my 30k position will become 2mil lol
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Tonight slight pull back.. but I can see buyers still stepping in, but the volume
is getting thinner and thinner everyday. hmm.gif


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Can crude break above 78 ?
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2070 coming?..... tongue.gif
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No new high today and a balance session trading back to open, sideway range forming on a bigger time frame hmm.gif bull starting to lose momentum dry.gif
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No new high today and a balance session trading back to open, sideway range forming on a bigger time frame hmm.gif bull starting to lose momentum  dry.gif
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2031-2031.75 good support. another rally from here doh.gif shouldnt have doubt the bull laugh.gif
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Waah... back to $76 for Oil. sweat.gif


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Crude on new low

75.75

Looks like way much to fall?
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 13 2014, 11:43 PM)
currently E-mini S&P500 trading at 2042

It's going to 2020 at least tomorrow, don't ask me why. If you need a reason, check my signature lol.
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75.15 looks like cannot be defended for crude oil..
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 13 2014, 11:43 PM)
currently E-mini S&P500 trading at 2042

It's going to 2020 at least tomorrow, don't ask me why. If you need a reason, check my signature lol.
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retracement started...coming....let me see some red!!
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 13 2014, 11:43 PM)
currently E-mini S&P500 trading at 2042

It's going to 2020 at least tomorrow, don't ask me why. If you need a reason, check my signature lol.
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your predicted 2020 is coming in fast! rclxm9.gif so fast that it is scary sweat.gif
sell off all my PUTs and settle for the profit thumbup.gif
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OK I must admit I am a total dummy when it comes to using forum, isn't the bottom part of my post categorise as "signature part"? at least that's what I am seeing when I tried to edit it........
My forum signature ==>
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Thanks alot.
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nvm, i can try to follow and learn from your thoughts, altho i am only a very tiny player.
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do our own homework and follow others at our own risk cheers.gif

but i must say Bro J analysis/news/tips or watever u call it, is at godlike level notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Nov 14 2014, 12:51 AM)
everyone starts small 
do our own homework and follow others at our own risk  cheers.gif

but i must say Bro J analysis/news/tips or watever u call it, is at godlike level  notworthy.gif
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Crude on new low
75.75

Looks like way much to fall?
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Too bad, we can't drink Oil. tongue.gif



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agree agree. Bro J has been very generous in sharing his views. Great to have a forummer like Bro J.
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hmm.gif let see if 2030 support can hold, if not 2020 might come today brows.gif another good call from Bro J notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 14 2014, 01:08 AM)
Crude Oil is way cheaper than Milk now...
Too bad, we can't drink Oil.  tongue.gif
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Crude Oil is way cheaper than Milk now...
Too bad, we can't drink Oil.  tongue.gif
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cant remember when did i see (or never seen?) at 75.5 ! but i did see 147 years back when everything thing went dead expensive. Wow, 75! still more expensive than mineral water right? lol
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Looks to me Crude oil is not going to hold the 75 mark, energy sector is doomed once again mad.gif
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Crude took some nibbling at 74.75...

More bloodshed to our oil n gas company...
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wow, switched off for a few days to asia for arbitraging (hk-sh through train) and things look toppish this side of the world suddenly.

my barometer for the time being is BABA. think some bears are monitoring it too smile.gif

exited SWN around 36.10 on mon.
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testing yesterday support hmm.gif
shocking.gif bear is strong today...
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Nov 14 2014, 01:15 AM)
cant remember when did i see (or never seen?) at 75.5 ! but i did see 147 years back when everything thing went dead expensive. Wow, 75! still more expensive than mineral water right? lol
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Are u sure?

It depends on how much they selling the "mineral" water right per bottle? Right?
One bottle is like 500ml

One barrel of Oil = 120 liters = 240 bottles

That's the same as one bottle for RM1. brows.gif







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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 14 2014, 01:55 AM)
exited SWN around 36.10 on mon.
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Didn't know you're playing SWN too.

I like this OIL services company. It's cheap now. But, due to oil prices being low..
PE getting more compressed.

Maybe will get another chance to reload at 30'ish again.
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Crude took some nibbling at 74.75...

More bloodshed to our oil n gas company...
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oOi..... I'm seeing 74.25 now.. good ness $70 is not too far away. sweat.gif
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OK, since it's a boring day without major players participating, let's take a look at two charts in courtesy from zerohedge.
Now:
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Back then:
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Check the full content by visiting planet Earth's most bearish website.
ps: Is there anyway to specify the image size under the whatever code this comfy place  is providing without having to stand 10ft away from my monitor to look at these humongous images after I linked/posted them here.
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If you look at May-Dec 2013, it has similar divergence but stock keep going up. rclxub.gif
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Hi, does anyone here trade forex? I'm currently using TOS/TDA to trade options and stocks, but had been rejected for forex application due to foreign account. Can someone recommend me a good broker to trade forex? Anyone? Preferably an offshore broker please.

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Hi, does anyone here trade forex? I'm currently using TOS/TDA to trade options and stocks, but had been rejected for forex application due to foreign account. Can someone recommend me a good broker to trade forex? Anyone? Preferably an offshore broker please.
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There is a forex thread, i think your chances are higher if u ask there smile.gif

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despite the MVP-performance of Russell 2k yesterday (well shot up all the day from secondary support S#2 to tietiary resistance R#3), the block sell ratio was 67%, which simply means big players are shorting IWM.
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There is a forex thread, i think your chances are higher if u ask there  smile.gif
the price movement is crazy  rclxub.gif
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BTW is anyone getting crushed by /CL?

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Thank you, i have posted my question over the forex thread.

BTW is anyone getting crushed by /CL?
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How about IB (Interactive Brokers)? They have a Forex module. not used it though apart from for changing currency.
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S&P crawling down slowly yawn.gif thought gonna see some extreme price movement like yesterday. Manage to scalp small profit from early hours crazy move, gonna call it a week smile.gif

have a great weekend ahead everyone cheers.gif
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I have come across this site replicates almost close to my pivot points, and it's free (not sure for how long). http://www.marketvolume.com/stocks/pivotpo...&t=spdr-s-p-500
Good job on the scalping!
Yup, Plunge Protection Team is still too strong. pbar was hitting $204.22 at around 14:50 when SPY was trading at $203.96.

Rolling out options for next week  rclxub.gif
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Thanks smile.gif all my profit add up is less than a fraction of the commission you pay cry.gif

lol the ppt holding the 2032 zone twice today, straight rejection at that area doh.gif
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bear? what bear?  tongue.gif
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The bear went over to Japan.... officially now in recession. sweat.gif
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I have come across this site replicates almost close to my pivot points, and it's free (not sure for how long). http://www.marketvolume.com/stocks/pivotpo...&t=spdr-s-p-500
Good job on the scalping!
Yup, Plunge Protection Team is still too strong. pbar was hitting $204.22 at around 14:50 when SPY was trading at $203.96.

Rolling out options for next week  rclxub.gif
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having trouble to break above 2040 but cant break below 2030 hmm.gif gonna pick a side soon

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having trouble to break above 2040 but cant break below 2030 hmm.gif gonna pick a side soon
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so anyone picked any side yet.....bull or bear??
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so anyone picked any side yet.....bull or bear??
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Scalping within the range whistling.gif dun think it gonna break the range today
done with my day trade smile.gif now staying on side line to see whose gonna tilt the balance yawn.gif
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I sincerely think that in order for the  market to make another new high, the following news should hit major headlines:

Obama to marry Putin and they both being accepted as third and forth wive of Saudi Prince, something like that...
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thumbup.gif tat will cause a big confusion laugh.gif
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shorting with livers
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shorting with livers
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let see if it can revisit previous high or got chop down again at this level
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that was one strong move right off the opening sweat.gif
the bull is back bruce.gif

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This bull market is so strong, there is no bear chance at all. All dips are bought and rebought caused mostly by
fund money chasing for year-end performance.

Letting this ride up.. selling the cover calls for SPY 207 for next week expiration.

No more trading for me until after Thanksgiving. Going back to USA for vacation with the family. laugh.gif


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This bull market is so strong, there is no bear chance at all. All dips are bought and rebought caused mostly by
fund money chasing for year-end performance.

Letting this ride up.. selling the cover calls for SPY 207 for next week expiration.

No more trading for me until after Thanksgiving. Going back to USA for vacation with the family.  laugh.gif
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small player like me just gonna join them and ride along thumbup.gif
2050 today rclxm9.gif

Enjoy ur family vacation cheers.gif
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2070 coming.... brows.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 18 2014, 11:10 PM)
This bull market is so strong, there is no bear chance at all. All dips are bought and rebought caused mostly by
fund money chasing for year-end performance.

Letting this ride up.. selling the cover calls for SPY 207 for next week expiration.

No more trading for me until after Thanksgiving. Going back to USA for vacation with the family.  laugh.gif
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There is hardly any reason for market to be bear in near term....or is there? biggrin.gif
oil price lower to stimulate economy in a broad way, QE ended as expected, jobless numbers handsome, inflation slowly catching up, huge shale oil production helps stabilize US energy needs, consuming power stable.... hmm.gif

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just go with the flow.....bull lor....long all the way till the pattern changes tongue.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 18 2014, 11:10 PM)
This bull market is so strong, there is no bear chance at all. All dips are bought and rebought caused mostly by
fund money chasing for year-end performance.

Letting this ride up.. selling the cover calls for SPY 207 for next week expiration.

No more trading for me until after Thanksgiving. Going back to USA for vacation with the family.  laugh.gif
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Btw if you are around LA, Cal do let me know? I wish to say hello to my ex hotel operator friend along 6th.street west.

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oil below 75, guess 70 coming? ... hmm.gif
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can the SPX rebound>? my guess is it will....still bullish...let see
but gold....gonna go down the drain soon
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can the SPX rebound>?  my guess is it will....still bullish...let see
but gold....gonna go down the drain soon
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no sign of strong bear whistling.gif probably just balancing yesterday rally brows.gif
sad.gif my swing position got taken out from the down move earlier vmad.gif but managed to catch the slow moving uptrend for some small profit dry.gif
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can the SPX rebound>?  my guess is it will....still bullish...let see
but gold....gonna go down the drain soon
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gold....lets look at 800 as first stop. icon_rolleyes.gif
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woo exit my first target, now let my remaining position to run icon_idea.gif
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rclxms.gif

luckily closed my short position yesterday, crazy economic data bullishness.
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just close all my position, too scary to continue riding, so settle for the good profit icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 21 2014, 12:16 AM)
better booked profit than sorry later. should be able to hear some ukraine news hitting headlines in a few moments
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bull cutting loose for the bear at 2050 level laugh.gif
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desperado bears finally rolling out the news at 1:50pm
Reuters Exclusive: U.S. increasing non-lethal military aid to Ukraine, U.S. officials say
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doesnt seems to be effective hmm.gif
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ohh looks like the bear is trying to take over hmm.gif the bull is not planning to take over the 2050 level so fast
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lol looks like the bull is just teasing the bear laugh.gif expecting new high tomorrow brows.gif
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Need some knowledge. I understand that NYSE has a trading floor and NASDAQ is traded through telecommunication. Thus, can we individuals trade in NYSE ?

Besides, when we talk about US capital market, does it refer to NYSE or NASDAQ or both. For example in Malaysia is KLSE
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QUOTE(looseand @ Nov 21 2014, 05:12 AM)
Need some knowledge. I understand that NYSE has a trading floor and NASDAQ is traded through telecommunication. Thus, can we individuals trade in NYSE ?

Besides, when we talk about US capital market, does it refer to NYSE or NASDAQ or both. For example in Malaysia is KLSE
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Capital market is measured by the country debt and equities as per my understanding. KLSE is a stock exchange just like both NYSE and NASDAQ. So I assume when people say us capital market it doesn't mean either NYSE or NASDAQ as those are the exchanges just like KLSE. Anyone can correct me if i'm mistaken?

Thanks.

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Please hold the fort until I come back in December... don't let the bulls run too much. tongue.gif laugh.gif

This bull is more scary than bear... sweat.gif
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Please hold the fort until I come back in December... don't let the bulls run too much.  tongue.gif  laugh.gif

This bull is more scary than bear...  sweat.gif
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Please hold the fort until I come back in December... don't let the bulls run too much.   tongue.gif   laugh.gif

This bull is more scary than bear...   sweat.gif
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ok ok, i will put my 500 billions to try hold the bull for you. tongue.gif

2070 coming... tongue.gif

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Dan when u come back...sp500 will be at 2100 already lol
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going fkin hell insane hello mumba chambaramba uber huge insanely humongous short position on everything now
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close all my position for a good profit again rclxm9.gif
wow a good week for me cheers.gif
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Nov 22 2014, 12:14 AM)
closed all 80% day trading short position and heading for bed  ph34r.gif

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bear? what bear?
oh...today hit 2070! target achieved! icon_rolleyes.gif

now what? correction coming? hmm.gif

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Ferguson is a mess now with protestors ..... we might get a dip in the market later.. .
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facebook engine is running again tongue.gif

on the other hand, oil stock really kena bash down left and right
really oil price can go so low meh?
is it oil is pumping out of the earth like the fountain>? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Nov 27 2014, 12:52 AM)
facebook engine is running again tongue.gif

on the other hand, oil stock really kena bash down left and right
really oil price can go so low meh?
is it oil is pumping out of the earth like the fountain>? tongue.gif
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Oil can easily come out just like u pee ma.. So very cheap lo biggrin.gif

Anyhow, am looking today if crude will rebound like how it did last week anot
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anyone has faith in China A Shares?
here is the ETF

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my method:

(a) 100% position on plain (1x) bullish ETF (not those 2x nor 3x nor inverse [bearish] ETF), use it as a tool to replace money market fund.

(b) above will still allow 50% buying power (margin). use it for day trading options.

comments are welcome.
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little changes,
perhaps i change my method to:

(a) 90% position on plain (1x) bullish ETF (not those 2x nor 3x nor inverse [bearish] ETF), use it as a tool to replace money market fund. 10% position cash, which my broker will throw into money market fund.

(b) above will still allow 45% buying power (margin from ETF) plus 10% cash totaling 55% buying power. use it for day trading options.

* 10% cash can be served as a good indicator for the performance of day trading. that means if i am losing more than 10% then my cash will become negative which will force me to stay away from market then re-evaluate my day trading techniques.
* since stock market is designed to go up in long term, buy and hold ETF that is significantly undervalued such as ASHR @ 2014.

sounds good? comments are welcome.
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if the 10% cut lost point works well in human manual trading, i will improve it as semi-automatic (or pure automatic) algorithmic trading using algo-trader https://code.google.com/p/algo-trader/

ok after talking so much on possible losses, what if making positive cash flow from option trading? i will first pamper myself, if got significant profit (10%) then re-balance my investment fund. i promise i will win some money, cash them out, touch them, show them to my family, and lock them in milo tin!!

sounds cool? comments are welcome.

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add on, if loses 10%, force to stay away 3 months. after that, re-balance my investment fund and trade again.
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add on, if loses 10%, force to stay away 3 months. after that, re-balance my investment fund and trade again.
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Always the positive or thinking of making good profits.. What are the risk , negative and make losses
you want to share?

Hard to always make correct signal/formula from trading compared to investment model.
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"However, due to lower fee, the trading platform that they provide are very minimal when compare Bursa Malaysia online trading platform" what do they mean by platform?
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Waah... sneaked in and took a peek here.
SPY closed at 207.20. They took away shares with the sold 207 calls from prior week. sad.gif

Looks like bulls still strong for the general index except for Oil.. wtf.. this is indeed cheaper than mineral water now. shocking.gif


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correction test water......very nice. keep up the good work. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 1 2014, 09:20 AM)
Waah... sneaked in and took a peek here.
SPY closed at 207.20.  They took away shares with the sold 207 calls from prior week.  sad.gif

Looks like bulls still strong for the general index except for Oil.. wtf.. this is indeed cheaper than mineral water now.  shocking.gif
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i think he is crazy now. Or, the world is crazy except for him. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 2 2014, 05:12 AM)
crazy TTB (from ICAP) even predict US$10-$30.  tongue.gif
i think he is crazy now. Or, the world is crazy except for him.  laugh.gif
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been keeping 70-80% cash for years now iirc.

thats why the activists are pushing for board seats amidst all that AGM ruckus. (on top of TTB paying himself top dollar to stay in a cave lol)
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 2 2014, 08:51 PM)
he's an absolute bear laugh.gif
been keeping 70-80% cash for years now iirc.

thats why the activists are pushing for board seats amidst all that AGM ruckus. (on top of TTB paying himself top dollar to stay in a cave lol)
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QUOTE(dragon178 @ Nov 27 2014, 10:06 AM)
anyone has faith in China A Shares?
here is the ETF

ASHR

Deutsche X-Trackers Harvest CSI 300 China A-Shares ETF(NYSEARCA:ASHR)
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ASHR already at premium and already fill up their China share foreign ownership quota. KBA still have lots of headroom. I bought FXI only.
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QUOTE(dragon178 @ Nov 28 2014, 10:02 AM)
(b) above will still allow 45% buying power (margin from ETF) plus 10% cash totaling 55% buying power. use it for day trading options.

* 10% cash can be served as a good indicator for the performance of day trading. that means if i am losing more than 10% then my cash will become negative which will force me to stay away from market then re-evaluate my day trading techniques.
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Why risking 10% with option day trading, of course unless you are quite good with day trading? Also why need 90% invested? What position sizing rules you're following?
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add on, if loses 10%, force to stay away 3 months. after that, re-balance my investment fund and trade again.
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You're investing like mutual fund style is it, with portfolio diversification, rebalancing and all? Want to elaborate more on this?

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By using maybank2u global trading account, is it possible for us to grab IPO offered on nasdaq or nyse? If yes,how to do that?Thanks
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hi guys noob question here, can any expert please educate me....US stock market allow short selling right? what about Bursa Malaysia, do they allow short selling?
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hi guys noob question here, can any expert please educate me....US stock market allow short selling right? what about Bursa Malaysia, do they allow short selling?
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QUOTE(delon85 @ Dec 7 2014, 02:19 PM)
retailers cant short sell in bursa.
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Means only institutional investor can short sell...my thats already a not level playing feel for retailers...
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QUOTE(delon85 @ Dec 7 2014, 02:19 PM)
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Btw for institutional traders in bursa, once they short, how many days maximum before they need to buy back the shares?
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i havent update myself about this in a while now.
i think retailers like us have to open a different account to short sell. we can only short sell stocks from a list though.
and before we can short sell, the lending agency have to have available shares loaned by others for us to sell.

not sure how many days. i think ill go call my broker to explore this option biggrin.gif

you have any stocks to short? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(delon85 @ Dec 7 2014, 06:27 PM)
i havent update myself about this in a while now.
i think retailers like us have to open a different account to short sell. we can only short sell stocks from a list though.
and before we can short sell, the lending agency have to have available shares loaned by others for us to sell.

not sure how many days. i think ill go call my broker to explore this option biggrin.gif

you have any stocks to short?  tongue.gif
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Waah.. after two weeks off, I see nothing much has change except the bulls are still inching up everyday and oil prices going down (thanks to Opec gangsta!).

Only 3.5 weeks to go for end of 2014. Market is already all time high here.
Perhaps bulls still want more Santa gifts here? hmm.gif




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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 7 2014, 10:31 PM)
Waah.. after two weeks off, I see nothing much has change except the bulls are still inching up everyday and oil prices going down (thanks to Opec gangsta!).

Only 3.5 weeks to go for end of 2014.  Market is already all time high here.
Perhaps bulls still want more Santa gifts here?  hmm.gif
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On the other hand, malaysia market bursa has been hit hard. Bears are all around us. Looking at this situation, even a year end window dressing, if any, would be very weak one. sweat.gif
In fact, even china/hk market, majority of stocks are depressing, only selected blue chips were cooked high up. This is a very tricky bear. sweat.gif
Euro market no good too.

Looks like US is the only bull after QE ended? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 8 2014, 03:45 AM)
On the other hand, malaysia market bursa has been hit hard. Bears are all around us. Looking at this situation, even a year end window dressing, if any, would be very weak one.  sweat.gif
In fact, even china/hk market, majority of stocks are depressing, only selected blue chips were cooked high up. This is a very tricky bear.  sweat.gif
Euro market no good too.

Looks like US is the only bull after QE ended?  hmm.gif
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china & hk has been surprisingly fun since the through-train & rate cut brows.gif particularly insurance (China Life, Ping An), brokerages (Haitong, Citic), airlines (Cathay, China Eastern), railway construction (CRCG, CRG) & banks (CMBank). but need to tread carefully with your picks as its not a broad sector rally.

malaysia i just closed my screen lol.
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china & hk has been surprisingly fun since the through-train & rate cut brows.gif particularly insurance (China Life, Ping An), brokerages (Haitong, Citic), airlines (Cathay, China Eastern), railway construction (CRCG, CRG) & banks (CMBank). but need to tread carefully with your picks as its not a broad sector rally.

malaysia i just closed my screen lol.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 8 2014, 05:49 PM)
china & hk has been surprisingly fun since the through-train & rate cut brows.gif particularly insurance (China Life, Ping An), brokerages (Haitong, Citic), airlines (Cathay, China Eastern), railway construction (CRCG, CRG) & banks (CMBank). but need to tread carefully with your picks as its not a broad sector rally.

malaysia i just closed my screen lol.
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China ASHR been on superbull last month.. I think it got more juice to go here.

Malaysia KLCI -> problem caused by OPEC here.. so much for the friends of Saudis.. when it comes to money,
everyone fend for themselves. Let see if 1700 can hold or not.
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expecting a bounce but on second thought... better hold my idea sweat.gif the strong selling is scary

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Wow.. Brent down to $66 and WTI to $63. sweat.gif
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Wow.. Brent down to $66 and WTI to $63.  sweat.gif
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<< As long as corporations continue borrowing money to buy back their own stocks and the yen keeps dropping, the SPX will continue lofting higher.>>

Folks,

One possible explanation why US stock keep going up.

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wow, correction coming~ big gap down shocking.gif
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QUOTE(morning06 @ Dec 9 2014, 10:21 PM)
wow, correction coming~ big gap down  shocking.gif
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Finally... Bears are out!!!

Anyone spotted China/Shanghai market yesterday.. -5% after big dump yesterday.
still kinda high.. needs more dump.

Also, FBMKLCI.. getting pummeled everyday..getting closer to 1700. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 10 2014, 12:08 AM)
Finally... Bears are out!!!   

Anyone spotted China/Shanghai market yesterday.. -5% after big dump yesterday.
still kinda high.. needs more dump.

Also, FBMKLCI.. getting pummeled everyday..getting closer to 1700.  biggrin.gif
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bear bear....come come, 1900. brows.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 11 2014, 04:18 AM)
bear bear....come come, 1900.  brows.gif
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Something is different .. this time around last year, we got Santa Claus rally.
Now, it is Santa Bear??? tongue.gif
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Something is different .. this time around last year, we got Santa Claus rally.
Now, it is Santa Bear???  tongue.gif
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I have a small portfolio of Vanguard mutuals (not ETFs) bought when in USA some time ago. However, very low % bonds. I'm looking for the best fund to exchange into if equities become uninteresting. Some risk is OK, so maybe a junk bond fund like VWEHX together with a US Treasury like VFITX?

Some bond funds seem to follow the equities charts while others are contra. Better to buy now and keep, with current high prices or wait for a moderate dip? Each new purchase is minimum Rm10k :-(
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came across a very interesting monthly WTI chart several traders were sharing

essentially its calling for a multiyear (since 99) bottom at $48-49.
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rebound so strong?? hmm.gif
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rebound so strong??  hmm.gif
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Bulls tried to negate back everything that was sold yesterday.

But,.... be careful here. Could be trap. sweat.gif

Energy stocks also tried to bounce but got a lot more to go. Oil still very weak.

I'm not buying this.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 11 2014, 09:21 PM)
came across a very interesting monthly WTI chart several traders were sharing

essentially its calling for a multiyear (since 99) bottom at $48-49.
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Perhaps don't need to go back so far..

I remembered Oil was $40 in 2009, right after the March'09 bottom for SP500.
But, it was when there's huge risk deflation and very bad economy.

Right now, economy recovery is on the right track (albeit slowly).

Oil issues are mainly supply/demand now. As long as the market is flooded with over supply (contango),
there is nothing much to do except to wait for the producers to cut back

OR.... somebody blow up some pipelines... brows.gif
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looks like US$50 is doable.....will see if it could stabilize at that level... hmm.gif
...for so, may expect O&G stocks to lower another 20-30% from here when reaching US$50.... sweat.gif

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wan to ask, where i can find info about invest in US stock?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 12 2014, 01:23 AM)
Perhaps don't need to go back so far..

I remembered Oil was $40 in 2009, right after the March'09 bottom for SP500.
But, it was when there's huge risk deflation and very bad economy.

Right now, economy recovery is on the right track (albeit slowly).

Oil issues are mainly supply/demand now.  As long as the market is flooded with over supply (contango),
there is nothing much to do except to wait for the producers to cut back

OR.... somebody blow up some pipelines...  brows.gif
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yeah..totally agree we're nowhere near the 09 sentiment.

ok ive recreated the chart on the monthly WTI
user posted image

you've got sub-56 as near term supports i guess.
but.. looking at this ive got some plays i wanna try out brows.gif

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My thoughts ... oil price going drop, will impact oil industry related counters. Other counters example consumer, should be good .. as more people has spare cash to buy other stuff like iphone 6. Then why is DOW JONES and NASDAQ going down? Due to possibility of deflation?

Please share some thoughts .. thinking of adding $$ into US Mutual funds ... rclxub.gif

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My thoughts ... oil price going drop, will impact oil industry related counters.  Other counters example consumer, should be good .. as more people has spare cash to buy other stuff like iphone 6.  Then why is DOW JONES and NASDAQ going down?    Due to possibility of deflation?

Please share some thoughts .. thinking of adding $$ into US Mutual funds ...  rclxub.gif
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Well, 10-12% of the weight of SP500 are energy related... so, if investors sell energy related stocks, and didn't buy the others, they just follow to sell down. I think the general market still healthy here (except energy sector -> gone into bear area).

If Nasdaq goes down, good time to scout for bargain for tech stocks. biggrin.gif

I think if OPECs turns around, it is going to one big HUGE rally for all the energy related stocks. They're now trading as if the earnings in 2014 has evaporated and 2015 forward earnings are in recession.






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the minimum is 1 unit. hence, if the price is USD100 then u pay USD100 ++ la if u only want 1 unit. laugh.gif
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the minimum is 1 unit. hence, if the price is USD100 then u pay USD100 ++ la if u only want 1 unit.  laugh.gif
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any idea S&P500 price per unit

does broker provide leverage?
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the minimum is 1 unit. hence, if the price is USD100 then u pay USD100 ++ la if u only want 1 unit.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 13 2014, 04:40 AM)
Yes, you can buy 1 share (same as 1 unit).

But, $100 is not enough to buy 1 share of SPY (which is the index for SP500). LOL!  biggrin.gif
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http://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-500
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Yes, the actual price of SP500 is $2K.

But, SPY (the most popular ETF which tracks SP500) is just 1/10 of the actual price.
Still, it is more than $100..

If SPY actually drops $100, you will see recession. biggrin.gif
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Yes, you can buy 1 share (same as 1 unit).

But, $100 is not enough to buy 1 share of SPY (which is the index for SP500). LOL!  biggrin.gif
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Yes, the actual price of SP500 is $2K.

But, SPY (the most popular ETF which tracks SP500) is just 1/10 of the actual price.
Still, it is more than $100..

If SPY actually drops $100, you will see recession.  biggrin.gif
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hi bro,

i m just starting to look into us stocks.

on nyse, is s&p500 code spx or something else? can't seem to find it.

found spy which is spdr s&p500, closed 200.60, right?

besides the popular ones on nasdaq, what are some of the big and mid cap caps on nyse that i can take a look at?

just getting started, any pointer will be useful. thanks!
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thx for the clarification. never trade in S&P500 b4. only NYSE  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 13 2014, 12:21 PM)
hi bro,

i m just starting to look into us stocks.

on nyse, is s&p500 code spx or something else? can't seem to find it.

found spy which is spdr s&p500, closed 200.60, right?

besides the popular ones on nasdaq, what are some of the big and mid cap caps on nyse that i can take a look at?

just getting started, any pointer will be useful. thanks!
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SP500 means Big Caps already... yes, just use SPY (the ETF) as ticker.

Mid Caps ticker is MDY

Just go google S&P MIDCAP 400® ETF and you find the list of 400 mid caps companies in this ETF.


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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 13 2014, 08:47 AM)
Yes, the actual price of SP500 is $2K.

But, SPY (the most popular ETF which tracks SP500) is just 1/10 of the actual price.
Still, it is more than $100..

If SPY actually drops $100, you will see recession.  biggrin.gif
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any broker provide leverage for like 1:50 or 1:100?
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Don't get confused. NYSE is the Exchange, not a stock. SP500 is just basically a name of 500 large cap US MNC companies.
SP500 means Big Caps already... yes, just use SPY (the ETF) as ticker.

Mid Caps ticker is MDY

Just go google S&P MIDCAP 400® ETF and you find the list of 400 mid caps companies in this ETF.
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thanks.

been googling n reading a bit...

i notice on my nyse trading platform that many etf's have high volumes. spy seems by far, the top volume. i can see many also listed as top volume etf's on this list.
http://www.barchart.com/etf/vleaders.php

this list of 10 "top" large cap etf's, with spy at #5, mdy not on it. seems some are very low vol traded. i seem to see the"top" ones are 100% usa equities.
http://money.usnews.com/funds/etfs/rankings/large-cap-funds

can i ask:
.. is it correct to say etf's are popular for reason of diversification, like unit trusts only that etfs are tradeable any time, in usd?
.. etf's investment and trading - any major difference compared to individual stocks?
.. what is spdr? i notice many etfs have this attached to it
.. for etf's, how is dividend treated given a basket of equities?
.. given the dive in gold, oil, commodity prices in the last yr or so, wud it be correct to say gold, oil and emerging markets etf's generally did badly in the same period?

just starting, so any comment appreciated incl yr own experience with any of these counters , thanks again.

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raising market but lower in volume, what does this indicated? red flag?
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raising market but lower in volume, what does this indicated? red flag?
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 12 2014, 03:49 PM)
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brokerages you can always start with the locals which offer US trading.
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raising market but lower in volume, what does this indicated? red flag?
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below buy signal generated from metatrader platform

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any broker provide leverage for like 1:50 or 1:100?
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Google around Stock Options to find out more.
Warning: Stock Options are not for rookies.


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 13 2014, 03:01 PM)
can i ask:
.. is it correct to say etf's are popular for reason of diversification, like unit trusts only that etfs are tradeable any time, in usd?
.. etf's investment and trading - any major difference compared to individual stocks?
.. what is spdr? i notice many etfs have this attached to it
.. for etf's, how is dividend treated given a basket of equities?
.. given the dive in gold, oil, commodity prices in the last yr or so, wud it be correct to say gold, oil and emerging markets etf's generally did badly in the same period?

just starting, so any comment appreciated incl yr own experience with any of these counters , thanks again.
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-- ETFs are created for NOT because of diversification alone but because of COST (as compared to unit trusts aka. mutual funds).
It is cheaper to trade ETF, just like stocks.
-- ETFs can be certain sectors: Transport, Oil, Housing, REITs, Commodities, Gaming, Dividends, Emerging market, World markets, etc...
-- SPDR is just one of the company that created the ETFs.
-- Dividends distribution are treated differently depending on how many stocks inside the ETF itself. You have to read its disclosures..
-- Yes, for any of the ETFs that have been tracking Gold, Oil and other commodities who had gone down in prices, their prices also have gone down in the same manner.. but their percentage are different.

Hope this helps!

QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 13 2014, 04:48 PM)
naturally volume divergences are a potential flag, but not enough to bring it down. the US market is a different animal altogether thanks to the drug called the Fed.
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Ha ha! Correct... the Fed (the doctor) has stop the flow of additional drug. Now, the patient (the economy) is on its own.




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You think 50ma cannot hold here? If 1950, I will be all in again! Just -50 pts away...  drool.gif
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people are panic for oil price now.....panic panic, they are... tongue.gif
in fact, i'm looking at between 1900 and 1950... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 14 2014, 08:38 AM)
people are panic for oil price now.....panic panic, they are...  tongue.gif
in fact, i'm looking at between 1900 and 1950...  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 14 2014, 01:18 AM)
Yes, for this kind of leverage, it is call Options!  biggrin.gif
Google around Stock Options to find out more.
Warning: Stock Options are not for rookies.
-- ETFs are created for NOT because of diversification alone but because of COST (as compared to unit trusts aka. mutual funds).
    It is cheaper to trade ETF, just like stocks.
-- ETFs can be certain sectors: Transport, Oil, Housing, REITs, Commodities, Gaming, Dividends, Emerging market, World markets, etc...
-- SPDR is just one of the company that created the ETFs.
-- Dividends distribution are treated differently depending on how many stocks inside the ETF itself. You have to read its disclosures..
-- Yes, for any of the ETFs that have been tracking Gold, Oil and other commodities who had gone down in prices, their prices also have gone down in the same manner.. but their percentage are different.

Hope this helps!
Ha ha! Correct...  the Fed (the doctor) has stop the flow of additional drug. Now, the patient (the economy) is on its own.
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thanks, appreciate it. will read up.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 12 2014, 05:16 PM)
yeah..totally agree we're nowhere near the 09 sentiment.

ok ive recreated the chart on the monthly WTI
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you've got sub-56 as near term supports i guess.
but.. looking at this ive got some plays i wanna try out brows.gif
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56 held this morning.. Have to see how many bounces it can hold hmm.gif
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wan to ask, where i can find info about invest in US stock?

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vin_ann your on the right thread, however your question is a bit general,
any specific information you like to find out?
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Need help from Sifus here. notworthy.gif

Are SPXL and SPXS good ETF choice to track SP500 movement? In terms of tracking accuracy as well as liquidity, I guess. Thanks! notworthy.gif


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56 held this morning.. Have to see how many bounces it can hold hmm.gif
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2nd bounce off 56 hmm.gif
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Need help from Sifus here.  notworthy.gif

Are SPXL and SPXS good ETF choice to track SP500 movement? In terms of tracking accuracy as well as liquidity, I guess. Thanks!   notworthy.gif
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No, they're not accurate because they're 3x leverage (one bull, one bear) and they reset everyday after the percentage move.
Dangerous to play this if you're on the wrong side.

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 16 2014, 03:53 AM)
No, they're not accurate because they're 3x leverage (one bull, one bear) and they reset everyday after the percentage move.
Dangerous to play this if you're on the wrong side.
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they reset everyday? that seems "accurate" in a way?
i watched them moving pretty much 3x according to how SP500 moves. Seems quite accurate....
and ya, i am more interested to play 3x, faster moving. biggrin.gif
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ETF is inherently to track those index movement, but X3 leverage sometime can be very hard to track by this ETF. Their job is to track those movement but sometime they can miss by miles on that movement also. So they basically tell you they will try their best but not guarantee.

For example, last week the S&P Volatility Index(ViX) spike a whopping 70% in 5 days, over the same period its ETN (VXX) follow through by a 30% movement only.
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they reset everyday? that seems "accurate" in a way?
i watched them moving pretty much 3x according to how SP500 moves. Seems quite accurate....
and ya, i am more interested to play 3x, faster moving.  biggrin.gif
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No, there are some tracking errors on those ETFs. The longer the timeframe, the more tracking errors and also they decay over time too - eventho if the underlying index stays the same over a longer time.

For example.

Let say if SP500 @ 2000 on day 1, SPXS=20
Within a month, SP500 may go up or down and let say it goes back to 2000 after 30 days,
you will find SPXS will be less than $20.


On other news... did you see that 17% interest rate by Russia Central bank? This is absolutely insane!
I guess they got no choice because everyone in Russia now panicking and selling the Rubles like Zimbabwe currency.


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North Dakota sweet crude price in latest NDIC release yesterday .. $41.75 per barrel hmm.gif
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North Dakota sweet crude price in latest NDIC release yesterday .. $41.75 per barrel hmm.gif
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sign of further decline for crude. wti now below usd55.

the oil rout is not over yet...
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No, there are some tracking errors on those ETFs. The longer the timeframe, the more tracking errors and also they decay over time too - eventho if the underlying index stays the same over a longer time.

For example.

Let say if SP500 @ 2000 on day 1, SPXS=20
Within a month, SP500 may go up or down and let say it goes back to 2000 after 30 days,
you will find SPXS will be less than $20.
On other news...  did you see that 17% interest rate by Russia Central bank? This is absolutely insane!
I guess they got no choice because everyone in Russia now panicking and selling the Rubles like Zimbabwe currency.
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Thanks! I understand now.

Ya, I guess Russia is in deep deep shxx now. Double attack by oil and politics. Only one hope: china rescue. Otherwise, even if oil price rebound, if not enough customer, Russia still in deep deep shxx. shakehead.gif
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Thanks! I understand now.

Ya, I guess Russia is in deep deep shxx now. Double attack by oil and politics. Only one hope: china rescue. Otherwise, even if oil price rebound, if not enough customer, Russia still in deep deep shxx.  shakehead.gif
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Yeah russia in in deep shit, i just hope putin dont turn extremist and cause instability in the region. Side note china is also under stress due to slowing down. Hopefully no hard landing.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 16 2014, 04:31 PM)
sign of further decline for crude. wti now below usd55.

the oil rout is not over yet...
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Not at all. That 56 support gave way pretty easily.. Sub 50s coming
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coming close to my target, as of now @53.8 lowest of the day.

covering 1/2 of positions
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U guys sudah prepare for 10.30pm tonight? Might be another round of bloodbath biggrin.gif...

My malaysian based unit trst sudah bleed 13% withina month.. @@*
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 16 2014, 08:50 PM)
U guys sudah prepare for 10.30pm tonight? Might be another round of bloodbath  biggrin.gif...

My malaysian based unit trst sudah bleed 13% withina month.. @@*
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im just keen to see how much more KLCI can bleed from all this. fatigue could be setting in soon hmm.gif
but seeing insane collapse in the ruble.. hmmm

the russian bear is out laugh.gif

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Be careful, the Russian stock market is not falling only knives but falling live grenades.

Average Russian earns US 12-13K/year just 6 months ago. Now they're earning 5-6K/year because
the rubles have devalued by 50%

The 17% rate hike overnight triggered more panic selling of the Russia currency.

US and Europe don't have to put any more additional sanctions, their own citizens are punishing themselves by selling Rubles and
buying USD and Euro.


QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 16 2014, 09:03 PM)
im just keen to see how much more KLCI can bleed from all this. fatigue could be setting in soon hmm.gif
but seeing insane collapse in the ruble.. hmmm
the russian bear is out laugh.gif
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The fallout from Russia also affecting other emerging markets.. like India, Indonesia and certainly Malaysia.
I wonder if BNM willing to step out to defend Ringgit. hmm.gif


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this was published back in mid-July 2014, just to recap
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 16 2014, 09:52 PM)

The fallout from Russia also affecting other emerging markets.. like India, Indonesia and certainly Malaysia.
I wonder if BNM willing to step out to defend Ringgit.  hmm.gif
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i think they're reluctant because they know its a pain game.. with household debt and all.
probably will have to rely on monetary automatic stabilizers like trade balance imo
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i think they're reluctant because they know its a pain game.. with household debt and all.
probably will have to rely on monetary automatic stabilizers like trade balance imo
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You are correct, raising rate is like the last bazooka here.
Russia first attempted to sell USD (their reserves) to stabilize the rubles.
Then, they know they are not wining, then let their Rubles float.
Now, couple of rounds of bazooka shots by raising interest rate. Still people are dumping Rubles.

Insane... imagine if we have more than 10% interest rate in Malaysia.
This feels like the early 80s again. Just park money in FD. biggrin.gif


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closed all @55 shorts. all the way from $69
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Tesla share drop below 200usd for the 1st time in the last 2 years...a good buy if anyone interested...normally it hovers around 230-245...
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Tesla share drop below 200usd for the 1st time in the last 2 years...a good buy if anyone interested...normally it hovers around 230-245...
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Thanks for heads up.. somehow it seems to be less attractive here. Will wait to see if 185 can hold or not.

On other tech stocks: AAPL vs BABA. Almost back to old price of low 100'ish.

Which one do you guys want to do play? biggrin.gif

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Which one do you guys want to do play?  biggrin.gif
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hi bro,

been checking up a bit.. like to get yr comments if u dun mind.

i m not trading but just like to put some money in etf's given the outlook of the usd's strength.

other than the recently mentioned appl, baba, tsla, spy and mdy, do you think these are reasonable ones to consider:

voo - s&p etf
ivv - s&P etf
xle - energy etf... consider if n when the energy sector stabilizes

is it correct to say the several s&p etf's are just from diff companies, slight diff in basket composition but basically the same except for daily volume, i.e. liquidity?

appreciate any comment, thanks.
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hi bro,

been checking up a bit.. like to get yr comments if u dun mind.

i m not trading but just like to put some money in etf's given the outlook of the usd's strength.

other than the recently mentioned appl, baba, tsla, spy and mdy, do you think these are reasonable ones to consider:

voo - s&p etf
ivv - s&P etf
xle - energy etf... consider if n when the energy sector stabilizes

is it correct to say the several s&p etf's are just from diff companies, slight diff in basket composition but basically the same except for daily volume, i.e. liquidity?

appreciate any comment, thanks.
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I would say yes to your question. I'm not familar with voo and ivv but am familar with XLE (energy sector). Pretty broad based - mostly composed of US large cap in Oil and Gas exploration. I think small numbers are in shale too.
Crude Oil goes down.. so does XLE in some manner but not always. XLE companies are also in SP500. SPY goes up, XLE will sometimes follow.




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I would say yes to your question.  I'm not familar with voo and ivv but am familar with XLE (energy sector). Pretty broad based - mostly composed of US large cap in Oil and Gas exploration. I think small numbers are in shale too.
Crude Oil goes down.. so does XLE in some manner but not always.  XLE companies are also in SP500.  SPY goes up, XLE will sometimes follow.
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thanks much for comments.

now checking some details with broker. may be buying first counter this week.
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Thanks for heads up.. somehow it seems to be less attractive here. Will wait to see if 185 can hold or not.

On other tech stocks:  AAPL vs BABA. Almost back to old price of low 100'ish.

Which one do you guys want to do play?  biggrin.gif
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definitely apple. still waiting it to drop to 100 or lower. biggrin.gif
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interesting, this XLE etf. Will monitor it for oil play.  brows.gif
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Be very careful with either one of those two. They can be deadly (if you're wrong) or treasure chest (if you're right). biggrin.gif

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Holy cow... gamings stocks kena kau kau...

Take a look at LVS, MPEL, MGM, WYNN..

All getting whacked from Xi JinPing anti-graft policy. No more China VIPs player wants to play in Macau anymore? hmm.gif


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i made my 2 maiden us purchases just now. biggrin.gif

as i do not hv realtime subscription, i used yahoo fin for real time data, place orders on cimb itrade. yahoofin data is pretty realtime as i can see it when done at the correct time on itrade which is realtime for orders processing. overall, worked fine. actually using a tiny atom netbook to do this while waiting for new pc to arrive.

first time, quite pleased with it.

bought spy n xle (becos crude jumped 4%). in tens of shares, not thousands. laugh.gif

now, will see if crude rebound holds and how usd-rm will work out in the coming months...
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Auntie Yellen is really powerful. She didn't really have to say anything or change any policy. Her appearance alone scared all the bears and make the bulls happy. biggrin.gif
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bought spy n xle (becos crude jumped 4%). in tens of shares, not thousands. laugh.gif

now, will see if crude rebound holds and how usd-rm will work out in the coming months...
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Good luck! I hope it will work out for you! thumbup.gif

I've not bought back my SPY shares that was called away at 207.

I'm waiting for 195 or lower.
Maybe I will not get it by Christmas..but that's ok, I sold the 195 puts and continue to sell it until it happens.


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For leverage play, ERX (bull 3x), ERY (bear 3x).
Be very careful with either one of those two. They can be deadly (if you're wrong) or treasure chest (if you're right).  biggrin.gif
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Auntie Yellen is really powerful. She didn't really have to say anything or change any policy. Her appearance alone scared all the bears and make the bulls happy.  biggrin.gif
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Now good news (rate hike) is good news for stock market? biggrin.gif
We'll have to see if today is a fake bull or not. laugh.gif
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Good luck! I hope it will work out for you!  thumbup.gif

I've not bought back my SPY shares that was called away at 207.

I'm waiting for 195 or lower.
Maybe I will not get it by Christmas..but that's ok, I sold the 195 puts and continue to sell it until it happens.
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thanks.

i bought early into the rally, finished good. so, it was a good start for me.

planning to add a bit more next few days if conditions favorable.

one thing i noticed... for a usd200 stock, prices in increment of 1 cent can swing from 200.30 to 200.02 to 199.64 within 20 secs!
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thanks.

i bought early into the rally, finished good. so, it was a good start for me.

planning to add a bit more next few days if conditions favorable.

one thing i noticed... for a usd200 stock, prices in increment of 1 cent can swing from 200.30 to 200.02 to 199.64 within 20 secs!
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SPY is very liquid because a lot of funds own it. They're in controlled by trading machines.

Did you also notice that XLE move in tandem with SPY and disconnected itself from Crude oil?
Crude price didn't move up much today.


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Did you also notice that XLE move in tandem with SPY and disconnected itself from Crude oil?
Crude price didn't move up much today.
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i only saw all of them moved up as oil moved up, hit the sack soon after. biggrin.gif

but think u r right - xle has oil corps, oil services, other energy, upstream n downstream... so it's probably more "connected" to overall S&P than just crude price.

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VIX - still below expectations.
Should reaches 26pts and above to have fear / panic situation.. Best time to bargain some shopping?

Year of Horse didn't progress much, as many ppls expects great hope/expectation on this zodiac animal.
See how the year of Goat ? IMHO Jan 2015 will be another opportunity (if VIX uptrend) to add more portfolios .. hmm.gif
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VIX - still below expectations.
Should reaches 26pts and above to have fear / panic situation.. Best time to bargain some shopping?

Year of Horse didn't progress much, as many ppls expects great hope/expectation on this zodiac animal.
See how the year of Goat ? IMHO Jan 2015 will be another opportunity (if VIX uptrend) to add more portfolios .. hmm.gif
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Yeah? Only Chinese ppls has great hope/expectation on Year of Horse and they didn't get disappointment at all.

Take a look at China's stock market - SHCOMP... 45% rise since August .. it's been a fantastic year for China! biggrin.gif


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Did you also notice that XLE move in tandem with SPY and disconnected itself from Crude oil?
Crude price didn't move up much today.
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yes, u r right on this. i watched closely last night.
as crude stalled n even declined, hal, rig, xom, slb turned red.
xle did turn red briefly but can see it paced with spy well.
well, all ends well, though!

thanks for yr help again. my first purchases looking fine at this time. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 12:41 AM)
Holy cow... gamings stocks kena kau kau...

Take a look at LVS, MPEL, MGM, WYNN..

All getting whacked from Xi JinPing anti-graft policy. No more China VIPs player wants to play in Macau anymore?  hmm.gif
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MPEL is as if manila is a dud haha, but the momentum is massive so its no go for me still
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 19 2014, 10:48 AM)
yes, u r right on this. i watched closely last night.
as crude stalled n even declined, hal, rig, xom, slb turned red.
xle did turn red briefly but can see it paced with spy well.
well, all ends well, though!

thanks for yr help again. my first purchases looking fine at this time. biggrin.gif
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Congrats! Awesome bounce for XLE this week... $8 move from low of $72.50 rclxms.gif

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MPEL is as if manila is a dud haha, but the momentum is massive so its no go for me still
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Not only that... the gaming folks in Macau is hoping for Xi JinPing visit could help to relief them of the draught.
But, I don't think he's signalling any easing for them yet since he still cracking down on corruption. nod.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 18 2014, 02:38 AM)
i made my 2 maiden us purchases just now. biggrin.gif

as i do not hv realtime subscription, i used yahoo fin for real time data, place orders on cimb itrade. yahoofin data is pretty realtime as i can see it when done at the correct time on itrade which is realtime for orders processing. overall, worked fine. actually using a tiny atom netbook to do this while waiting for new pc to arrive.

first time, quite pleased with it.

bought spy n xle (becos crude jumped 4%). in tens of shares, not thousands. laugh.gif

now, will see if crude rebound holds and how usd-rm will work out in the coming months...
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congratz! break ur virginity in stocks already rclxms.gif

me yet to break my virginity in stocks...always monitor stocks in investing.com apps the past 1.5 years only... doh.gif
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congratz! break ur virginity in stocks already  rclxms.gif

me yet to break my virginity in stocks...always monitor stocks in investing.com apps the past 1.5 years only...  doh.gif
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i had been wanting to do that for some months now, since the time when aapl went below 100.

well, last week's oil price crash presented an opportunity i could not resist.

there's always a first time for anything, go for it! biggrin.gif

am actually looking to buy aapl n msft. if n when oil firms, will get some slb n rig.

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my stock is making a double digit profit but the sales charge is painful to swallow. sad.gif
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my stock is making a double digit profit but the sales charge is painful to swallow. sad.gif
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What does "sales charge" mean?
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lol... sry mistaken UT term

was referring to the brokerage fee to purchase a NYSE stock using local bank platform cry.gif
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lol... sry mistaken UT term

was referring to the brokerage fee to purchase a NYSE stock using local bank platform cry.gif
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Oh I see, you're referring to the transaction fee.

Are you paying a "flat" fee or by "percentage"?
If by "percentage", then it is time to ditch your local broker and open a direct one with US brokerage.

But, if you don't trade much (like once a month or a quarter) or a "buy-and-hold" type,
then don't worry too much about it.

Also, USD is high now.. perhaps everytime you buy/sell locally, they will charge you transaction fee, and currency exchange fee too. That would be a double ouch. nod.gif


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Oh I see, you're referring to the transaction fee.

Are you paying a "flat" fee or by "percentage"?
If by "percentage", then it is time to ditch your local broker and open a direct one with US brokerage.

But, if you don't trade much (like once a month or a quarter) or a "buy-and-hold" type,
then don't worry too much about it.

Also, USD is high now.. perhaps everytime you buy/sell locally, they will charge you transaction fee, and currency exchange fee too.  That would be a double ouch. nod.gif
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Hi there.

I'm paying by % but there is a minimum of USD30 per transaction.

i'm more towards the buy-and-hold type. hardly speculate.

luckily i purchased mine before the oil issue and USD high time. laugh.gif

hence, would like to ask what are the procedures to open a direct account with a US brokerage?
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Looks like the saudis are bent on scorched earth with their commentary, crude down to 55.6x again
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Looks like the saudis are bent on scorched earth with their commentary, crude down to 55.6x again
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.. perhaps everytime you buy/sell locally, they will charge you transaction fee, and currency exchange fee too.  That would be a double ouch. nod.gif
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fyi, for cimb's iTrade, every foreign account transaction will first "buy the currency", then "trade with the currency" and you may choose not to change back into RM if selling foreign shares. As for my iTrade, there are currently 3 sub-accounts to deal with HKD, USD and RM although all 3 still managed under one integrated iTRade account. So no double charged. laugh.gif

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Hi there.
I'm paying by % but there is a minimum of USD30 per transaction.
i'm more towards the buy-and-hold type. hardly speculate.
luckily i purchased mine before the oil issue and USD high time.  laugh.gif
hence, would like to ask what are the procedures to open a direct account with a US brokerage?
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min usd30.. what bank..? higher then than cimb itrade's usd25.
hope yr % is not higher than 0.4%.
anyway, if not trading much, minor effect...

QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 22 2014, 11:47 PM)
fyi, for cimb's iTrade, every foreign account transaction will first "buy the currency", then "trade with the currency" and you may choose not to change back into RM if selling foreign shares. As for my iTrade, there are currently 3 sub-accounts to deal with HKD, USD and RM although all 3 still managed under one integrated iTRade account. So no double charged.   laugh.gif
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i m on same thing: rm-sgd-usd. i find the rates reasonable.
what i do with say, sgd dividends, i leave it in trust acc for not more than a qtr, accumulate enough to buy more when price is acceptable.
come jan 2015, sgx going board lot 100 which will make things easier.
plan is to do same for usd, no reason to think rm will strengthen bigtime for "decades"; reverse may come true, though. tongue.gif


this oil story... after many saying it'll go as low as usd40 some weeks ago, now i start to read some reports making the case for usd64-65 avg for 2015. well, who knows.... but we do have an interesting opportunity now... to buy or to keep watching...?

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min usd30.. what bank..? higher then than cimb itrade's usd25.
hope yr % is not higher than 0.4%.
anyway, if not trading much, minor effect...
i m on same thing: rm-sgd-usd. i find the rates reasonable.
what i do with say, sgd dividends, i leave it in trust acc for not more than a qtr, accumulate enough to buy more when price is acceptable.
come jan 2015, sgx going board lot 100 which will make things easier.
plan is to do same for usd, no reason to think rm will strengthen bigtime for "decades"; reverse may come true, though. tongue.gif
this oil story... after many saying it'll go as low as usd40 some weeks ago, now i start to read some reports making the case for usd64-65 avg for 2015. well, who knows.... but we do have an interesting opportunity now... to buy or to keep watching...?
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HLE broking. good for local market. but charge me USD30 when i purchase a stock from NYSE. sweat.gif

technically, buy USD 30, sell USD 30 = USD60 unsure.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 23 2014, 12:13 AM)
this oil story... after many saying it'll go as low as usd40 some weeks ago, now i start to read some reports making the case for usd64-65 avg for 2015. well, who knows.... but we do have an interesting opportunity now... to buy or to keep watching...?
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Remember when Goldman said Oil will go to $200 when it was $140 back in '08?.. then it reverses and went down.

The thing is when a lot people start talking about $40 oil, it most likely it will not happen and likely to bottom in the 50s and move back up. A lot of times, they overshoot to the downside.

As for Opec,, funny argument from them they're saying non-Opec members should cut back production.. not them. tongue.gif






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HLE broking. good for local market. but charge me USD30 when i purchase a stock from NYSE.  sweat.gif

technically, buy USD 30, sell USD 30 = USD60  unsure.gif
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$30/trade.. that's high. shocking.gif Does this involve a human remisier assisted trade?

$30 could mean 30 trades for me..

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$30/trade.. that's high.  shocking.gif  Does this involve a human remisier assisted trade?

$30 could mean 30 trades for me..
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nope... e-trade. cry.gif

hence, asking around what are my better options regarding this issue. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:51 AM)
Remember when Goldman said Oil will go to $200 when it was $140 back in '08?.. then it reverses and went down.

The thing is when a lot people start talking about $40 oil, it most likely it will not happen and likely to bottom in the 50s and move back up. A lot of times, they overshoot to the downside.

As for Opec,, funny argument from them they're saying non-Opec members should cut back production.. not them.  tongue.gif
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i like to think that the selling was a bit overdone like it always happen; good probability it will recover 10-15% soon and hover there for some time. the case of oil can't be like gold which never recovered, maybe not for 10 yrs!

anyway, i have a passion for oil having worked in that industry for some years a long time ago. so, just bought bits of slb and oih for old time sake. tongue.gif

will look for opportunity to buy some aapl n msft. with that, i'll be happy just to sit back for a while. wink.gif

good nite.

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 23 2014, 12:51 AM)
HLE broking. good for local market. but charge me USD30 when i purchase a stock from NYSE.  sweat.gif

technically, buy USD 30, sell USD 30 = USD60  unsure.gif
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yeah.. local brokers tend to charge round this range. but if you switch onto those US discount brokers like IB.. way cheaper.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 23 2014, 01:13 AM)
yeah.. local brokers tend to charge round this range. but if you switch onto those US discount brokers like IB.. way cheaper.
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sorry what's IB?

any recommendation on US brokers that i can register in Msia? tried finding abit but sesat. hence, asking here.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:54 AM)
$30/trade.. that's high.  shocking.gif  Does this involve a human remisier assisted trade?

$30 could mean 30 trades for me..
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if you look at percentage, it's not that high (but still higher than you, i am sure). The minimum charge is about total of US$30.
for transactions around RM10k, i see the total charges pretty much same for US and HK shares (about US$30), so I assume they are close. I did transaction for RM20k on HK stock before, and the charges just slightly higher at about US$40, which gives a rate of 0.66%, not too bad I guess.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 23 2014, 01:13 AM)
yeah.. local brokers tend to charge round this range. but if you switch onto those US discount brokers like IB.. way cheaper.
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But IB requires minimum of USD $10K to open an account, right? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:51 AM)
Remember when Goldman said Oil will go to $200 when it was $140 back in '08?.. then it reverses and went down.

The thing is when a lot people start talking about $40 oil, it most likely it will not happen and likely to bottom in the 50s and move back up. A lot of times, they overshoot to the downside.

As for Opec,, funny argument from them they're saying non-Opec members should cut back production.. not them.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 23 2014, 01:08 AM)
i like to think that the selling was a bit overdone like it always happen; good probability it will recover 10-15% soon and hover there for some time. the case of oil can't be like gold which never recovered, maybe not for 10 yrs!

anyway, i have a passion for oil having worked in that industry for some years a long time ago. so, just bought bits of slb and oih for old time sake. tongue.gif

will look for opportunity to buy some aapl n msft. with that, i'll be happy just to sit back for a while. wink.gif

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Since you're buy and hold type, why not add those boring but good stocks like coke, walmart, p&g etc.
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Since you're buy and hold type, why not add those boring but good stocks like coke, walmart, p&g etc.
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firstly, i m more interested in etf's, already got some spy.
secondly, the recent oil slump provides an entry opportunity for energy stocks.
small purchases only...
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 23 2014, 01:34 AM)
sorry what's IB?

any recommendation on US brokers that i can register in Msia? tried finding abit but sesat. hence, asking here.
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You can also consider thinkorswim/TD Ameritrade, OptionXpress.
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wow new high and i missed out the big downside correction and the rebounce ohmy.gif
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Just catching up after a long holiday~
wow new high and i missed out the big downside correction and the rebounce  ohmy.gif
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Santa rally is here...for general indexes except for Commodities

Crude Oil still bad.. but Oil services (XLE) have rebounded but not old highs yet.
Gold still bad..
Russia rubles still toilet paper.. perhaps a little help from China can set the floor at 1 USD = 55-60 rubles. biggrin.gif
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Santa rally is here...for general indexes except for Commodities
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i hope so!

reading cbnc, bloomberg n watching the screen for the last 3 hrs or so gave me the feeling that the fine gdp figures n low oil price will be a bonanza for spenders in usa. maybe not so much here with a weak rm tongue.gif , but people will spend on tech, right?!

certainly toppish, but i went ahead n got some aapl and qqq (nasdaq etf). msft was just hard for me to swallow, gave up.

i have completed the purchases for my small portfolio of s&p-energy-tech for this first round, will just see what happens next.



for us stock starters, i'll say the yahoo finance real time streams are good, reliable, if u do not subscribe to paid streams. i use that with cimb itrade.

lastly, i can see how it can sap yr energy if u stay up late every night to trade. notworthy.gif i m already exhausted after a few late nights. exciting? oh yes, much more so than bursa or sgx! biggrin.gif

good nite...

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lastly, i can see how it can sap yr energy if u stay up late every night to trade. notworthy.gif  i m already exhausted after a few late nights. exciting? oh yes, much more so than bursa or sgx! biggrin.gif

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Sure thing... I'm in the same boat if I stay up during the day. Since my working hours are in the evening..
10pm to 7am... no problem here for US times. Already adjusted for the past 5 years. Only get back to normal hours during holidays or weekend. biggrin.gif

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Sure thing... I'm in the same boat if I stay up during the day.  Since my working hours are in the evening..
10pm to 7am... no problem here for US times. Already adjusted for the past 5 years.  Only get back to normal hours during holidays or weekend. biggrin.gif
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graveyard shift factory hand or bigtime int'l fund manager? brows.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 24 2014, 12:00 PM)
graveyard shift factory hand or bigtime int'l fund manager? brows.gif
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The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones... biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM)
The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones...  biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.
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Me too. Sold all SPXL just now for 15% profit. Good Christmas present. laugh.gif

Merry Christmas. wink.gif

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Not enough capital to play us stock yet...

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Not enough capital to play us stock yet...

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.. my brokerage fees are too high using local ib platform.
.. to get much lower fees, u need to open usd acc somewhere outside msia, i believe.
.. us markets are far more volatile that bursa, so u gotta be prepared to stay up late in the night(s).

my prime reason to move some funds from bursa to us stocks is primarily the issue of the weak-n-continue-to weaken rm.
think about it - crude n commodities prices hammered n not recovering any time soon, all categories of debts soaring, skeletons in the 1mdb and other closets; increasing unfavorableness for foreign investors, no viable big economic plans and do-nothing-gomen... how likely will rm strengthen? i think nil.

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fyi, for cimb's iTrade, every foreign account transaction will first "buy the currency", then "trade with the currency" and you may choose not to change back into RM if selling foreign shares. As for my iTrade, there are currently 3 sub-accounts to deal with HKD, USD and RM although all 3 still managed under one integrated iTRade account. So no double charged.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM)
The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones...  biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.
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xle is holding well. spy, qqq, appl almost back to all time highs!
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 30 2014, 12:20 AM)
xle is holding well. spy, qqq, appl almost back to all time highs!
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Yup.. seeing that too. But, XLE is only half of what it used to... still hasn't test that last high on Dec 3rd.
Also there's a gap (between 82 and 85). Lots of resistance there.

But, i think here's good support 75-76 area. If it pulls back there, time to add more. biggrin.gif



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looks like oil possibly like to test US$50 again?... hmm.gif

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looks like oil possibly like to test US$50 again?... hmm.gif
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Possibly... if it falls below $50, it could be devastating (even for XLE... so be careful here)! nod.gif

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hmm.gif S&P trading at thin volume on these few days... everyone taking a rest after santa rally and preparing for new year eh
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let's hope markets close with a nice finish tonite... and usd continues to run away! tongue.gif

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MON had a huge options trade volume yesterday.. traders probably buying that bounce around 121 with target 127 but seemed like it failed to rally.
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late new year wish~ Happy New Year!!
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existing holdings, think good chance as us economy looks strong, usd getting stronger.
crude... should see bottom "soon". tongue.gif


but... how to buy more with rm? now...3.5145. shakehead.gif
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existing holdings, think good chance as us economy looks strong, usd getting stronger.
crude... should see bottom "soon". tongue.gif
but... how to buy more with rm? now...3.5145. shakehead.gif
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US market poised for stronger finish in 2015 due to USD strengthening
which leads to lower crude prices

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 2 2015, 02:06 PM)
cheers.gif

existing holdings, think good chance as us economy looks strong, usd getting stronger.
crude... should see bottom "soon". tongue.gif
but... how to buy more with rm? now...3.5145. shakehead.gif
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ya, i also don't know when should be a good time to buy USD. Can RM rebound in near term? Wondering.... doh.gif
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Can RM rebound in near term? Wondering.... doh.gif
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given all that we know, i m of the view rm unlikely to rebound unless crude rebounces quickly and significantly.

a couple months a go, a couple of ib reports forecast rm to go 3.55. that was when crude at usd60. at usd50-55...?

what we need to read will be the latest figures on capital flight, legal n illicit flows...

i will probably look for good buys when rm rebounds a bit becos it will probably not last.

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i will probably look for good buys when rm rebounds a bit becos it will probably not last.
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ya, same strategy on me. But maybe i can't wait too long, because US and HK market may not wait with me. They are bullish. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 2 2015, 04:59 PM)
ya, same strategy on me. But maybe i can't wait too long, because US and HK market may not wait with me. They are bullish.  hmm.gif
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this is surely the difficult part since the ex rate adds another dimension.

worst case - price rising, rm weaker n weaker...!

well, usually... when it comes to the crunch, you wanna buy, just buy! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 2 2015, 04:59 PM)
ya, same strategy on me. But maybe i can't wait too long, because US and HK market may not wait with me. They are bullish.  hmm.gif
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exactly the same dilemma for me
i've switched about 40% into HKD & USD previously but now these are all ploughed in. need more of these to continue riding the A-share frenzy.

best guess, might see some mild strengthening into Feb, anything below 3.38 USD/ above 2.29 HKD will gladly take laugh.gif
on the bright side, FX gains for the USD side have made it a pretty spectacular 2014.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 2 2015, 05:34 PM)
exactly the same dilemma for me
i've switched about 40% into HKD & USD previously but now these are all ploughed in. need more of these to continue riding the A-share frenzy.

best guess, might see some mild strengthening into Feb, anything below 3.38 USD/ above 2.29 HKD will gladly take laugh.gif
on the bright side, FX gains for the USD side have made it a pretty spectacular 2014.
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May I know what industry are u working in? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Jan 2 2015, 11:48 PM)
crude $42.5
gold $1250

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scared me there i instantly went to check prices.
sub-50 incoming !
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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Jan 2 2015, 11:27 PM)
May I know what industry are u working in?  biggrin.gif
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but learning from this thread

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existing holdings, think good chance as us economy looks strong, usd getting stronger.
crude... should see bottom "soon". tongue.gif
but... how to buy more with rm? now...3.5145. shakehead.gif
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Wow.. USD went above 3.50 against RM ... now 3.523 brows.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 3 2015, 04:42 AM)
Wow.. USD went above 3.50 against RM  ... now 3.523  brows.gif
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i expect it to keep edging lower until one of two things happen - oil price rebound significantly or a reversal in net capital flow happens - both unlikely in the short term. this commentary by mier may be a little outdated but take note one para...
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The values of ringgit Malaysia (RM) against a basket of major trading partners (China, Singapore, Japan, USA and Thailand) are consistently below the baseline index in May 2013. During the middle of 2013, ringgit depreciated significantly due to large activities of quantitative easing from the US Fed to increase its money supply in the environment of lower interest rates in an effort to boost economic recovery. Ringgit went through a volatile period from the middle of last year until the first quarter of this year before rebounding towards an appreciating trend until September 2014 and got weaken again thereafter. Bank Negara's international reserves were depleted in the bid to support depreciating ringgit.
http://www.mier.org.my/outlook/


about oil price, everyone seems to want to predict how will oil price move from now. of all the reports and comments i came across, this one made most sense to me:
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The faster it comes down, the faster it comes back. In terms of today, we started at $107 in June — and we are now in the $55 (US) range, and I think it could go down to $45, plus or minus in February … could be down for six to nine months and then I don’t know if it’ll come back 50 per cent, 100 cent or 150 per cent. OPEC will keep prices down until they have disrupted the investment cycles for the high cost producers.  I think the six month period is no accident. They need to keep it down for a certain period of time until people “get the lesson.”
http://calgaryherald.com/business/energy/o...eteran-jim-gray


so, we keep close watch from now till 2q/3q2015. meanwhile, we'll see if saudi will do anything soon.

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i expect it to keep edging lower until one of two things happen - oil price rebound significantly or a reversal in net capital flow happens - both
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I'm interested to know if low oil prices can hurt Petronas or not.. but someone spin the story it doesn't hurt Petronas at all but yet Petronas made its move to reduce cap expenses and caused a dump in Malaysia equities in December.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...nies/?style=biz




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I'm interested to know if low oil prices can hurt Petronas or not.. but someone spin the story it doesn't hurt Petronas at all but yet Petronas made its move to reduce cap expenses and caused a dump in Malaysia equities in December.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...nies/?style=biz
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Our oil is the high grade oil which target airlines, aerospace, high R n D bio/ technology ..etc ..
For airlines, many companies already have a fuel /oil hedge contract allows a large fuel consuming company to establish a fixed price.
If you are the oil producer and with the current price, will you want to dig more oil, sell yr oil or hedge the oil price to many big companies ? hmm.gif


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oil... <usd52.

rm... 3.54x. sweat.gif
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finally, oil at $50.
what's next? biggrin.gif
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bursa and rm will take another beating tmrw...

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ok. first stop 1970. brows.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 6 2015, 12:59 AM)
finally, oil at $50.
what's next?  biggrin.gif
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Not sure if it will get there... I think if like last time (Dec 15/16th pullback),
if bull comes in rampaging the next day after dip at 50ma (like today), then just
close eyes and buy next day.
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Obviously consolidating before resuming its downtrend...
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 6 2015, 11:26 AM)
Not sure if it will get there... I think if like last time (Dec 15/16th pullback),
if bull comes in rampaging the next day after dip at 50ma (like today), then just
close eyes and buy next day.
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it could be another 'buy the dips' moment like mid oct, and mid dec.
especially if wti were to pivot strongly coincidentally at the same time brows.gif
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this one coming true or what!

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The faster it comes down, the faster it comes back. In terms of today, we started at $107 in June — and we are now in the $55 (US) range, and I think it could go down to $45, plus or minus in February … could be down for six to nine months and then I don’t know if it’ll come back 50 per cent, 100 cent or 150 per cent. OPEC will keep prices down until they have disrupted the investment cycles for the high cost producers.  I think the six month period is no accident. They need to keep it down for a certain period of time until people “get the lesson.”
http://calgaryherald.com/business/energy/o...eteran-jim-gray



and more pain for bursa, rm, 1mdb, etc...

man, my pack of boncafe will be rm20, salmon rm80 per kg soon!! laugh.gif
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First experience with HLeBroking's foreign exchange platform went down the drain. sad.gif

It keeps giving me silly reason that it's unable to process my order due to sector suspended. Called the toll free & his first attempt failed until he changed to "another system". I don't really enjoy calling the broker every time I want to place an order but I'm not sure if this issue is unique only to HLeBroking or other local brokerages as well.
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First experience with HLeBroking's foreign exchange platform went down the drain. sad.gif

It keeps giving me silly reason that it's unable to process my order due to sector suspended. Called the toll free & his first attempt failed until he changed to "another system". I don't really enjoy calling the broker every time I want to place an order but I'm not sure if this issue is unique only to HLeBroking or other local brokerages as well.
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i can say cimb's itrade is ok. had been using it for sgx and nyse. all is good.
haven't used the others - thailand, indon and hongkong.
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i can say cimb's itrade is ok. had been using it for sgx and nyse. all is good.
haven't used the others - thailand, indon and hongkong.
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Can I know what platform CIMB iTrade use for foreign exchange? HLeBroking uses IRESS.

I'll see if my broker can give me an explanation on how to prevent this issue from occurring again or else I'll have to switch to either iTrade, OSK or foreign online brokerages.
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Can I know what platform CIMB iTrade use for foreign exchange? HLeBroking uses IRESS.
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i hv no idea what system or which developer did it...

not perfect but works fine most of the time. not complaining.

can use on pc or ipad, can do e-ipo, foreign bourses, can transfer money between trading and bank acc,.... i find it good enough.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 7 2015, 12:22 AM)
i hv no idea what system or which developer did it...

not perfect but works fine most of the time. not complaining.

can use on pc or ipad, can do e-ipo, foreign bourses, can transfer money between trading and bank acc,.... i find it good enough.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll make it a point to check for their commission / fees during my lunch hour.

QUOTE(Brother J @ Jan 7 2015, 12:22 AM)
When it involves real life hard-earned money, you just need to switch without giving second chance.
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Well, this is my first experience with foreign exchange & maybe there was some hiccups during my registration or what not. I'll try to call my broker & see if he can offer a reasonable explanation for what I'm experiencing. If it's not convincing then yea, time to have a thought about switching.
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 6 2015, 11:20 PM)
First experience with HLeBroking's foreign exchange platform went down the drain. sad.gif

It keeps giving me silly reason that it's unable to process my order due to sector suspended. Called the toll free & his first attempt failed until he changed to "another system". I don't really enjoy calling the broker every time I want to place an order but I'm not sure if this issue is unique only to HLeBroking or other local brokerages as well.
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I am using this for a while.
initially i could not even log in!
but now its fast, user friendly and can buy-sell easily.
except the brokerage is dead high, at a total of almost 1% 2 ways. Platform wise it is ok.

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crude 48.xx...

this one coming true or what!
and more pain for bursa, rm, 1mdb, etc...

man, my pack of boncafe will be rm20, salmon rm80 per kg soon!! laugh.gif
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Holy cow.... sure indeed more pain for Bursa.. the locals players are running for the exit door.
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I am using this for a while.
initially i could not even log in!
but now its fast, user friendly and can buy-sell easily.
except the brokerage is dead high, at a total of almost 1% 2 ways. Platform wise it is ok.
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Just received a call from HLeBroking agent to explain my predicament. Apparently the share that I queued (an ETF called DWTI) for is some kind of "archive share" & they'll have to engage with their platform partner to add it in. sweat.gif
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Just received a call from HLeBroking agent to explain my predicament. Apparently the share that I queued (an ETF called DWTI) for is some kind of "archive share" & they'll have to engage with their platform partner to add it in. sweat.gif
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'archieve share'? new to me. maybe they dont have such a complete portfolio for trading? strange!
i have no probs in using the platform atm.
but the brokerage is dead high!!!
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 7 2015, 11:07 AM)
Just received a call from HLeBroking agent to explain my predicament. Apparently the share that I queued (an ETF called DWTI) for is some kind of "archive share" & they'll have to engage with their platform partner to add it in. sweat.gif
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ETFs? from ARCA exchange?
yeah - HLeB has to call over to IRIS partner to add. pain experienced before.

other than that, ok lar generally pain-free other than cost if U use it as a trading platform (instead of retirement accumulation / investment platform) sweat.gif
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Holy cow....  sure indeed more pain for Bursa.. the locals players are running for the exit door.
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haha, today our local chinese newspapers saying that Msia is no longer a net oil export nation as most production is mainly for local production. and, imports exceeds export now. also, the export grade is v high and for high level industrial usage such as air liners and bio tech biz. these people are so optimistic !!!
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'archieve share'? new to me. maybe they dont have such a complete portfolio for trading? strange!
i have no probs in using the platform atm.
but the brokerage is dead high!!!
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When you mention dead high, do you refer to the brokerage fees?

QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 7 2015, 11:27 AM)
ETFs? from ARCA exchange?
yeah - HLeB has to call over to IRIS partner to add. pain experienced before.

other than that, ok lar generally pain-free other than cost if U use it as a trading platform (instead of retirement accumulation / investment platform)  sweat.gif
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Now that you mention it, you're most probably right. I just noticed the term ARC in the exchange column.

Are you saying that each time I want to trade counters involved with ARCA exchange, I'll be encountering similar problem again? Oh my.

Yea, the cost involved is quite high. What platform do you usually trade on apart from HLeB?

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[quote=talexeh,Jan 7 2015, 11:33 AM]
When you mention dead high, do you refer to the brokerage fees?

yes, the brokerage fees ++ amounted to 1% 2 way.ess i buy for longer term and not for trading as T3 is too short to make over 1% (if i am lucky enough to make)

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haha, today our local chinese newspapers saying that Msia is no longer a net oil export nation as most production is mainly for local production. and, imports exceeds export now.  also, the export grade is v high and for high level industrial usage such as air liners and bio tech biz. these people are so optimistic !!!
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if net importer, we will be benefiting, not losing!


about oil grade.... to my knowledge, m'sian crude is light, better to export to countries where the refineries are designed to take it. our refineries here are mostly built to refine heavy crude (sulphur mainly). the economics of the refinery infra work out such that it is better to export the light, import the heavy.

airlines... aviation fuel is basically kerosene, nothing exotic.

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When you mention dead high, do you refer to the brokerage fees?
Now that you mention it, you're most probably right. I just noticed the term ARC in the exchange column.

Are you saying that each time I want to trade counters involved with ARCA exchange, I'll be encountering similar problem again? Oh my.

Yea, the cost involved is quite high. What platform do you usually trade on apart from HLeB?
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OptionsXpress for trading though i may need to lower my capital usage until i can verify properly a fellow forumer's posting on "Death/Estate taxes on US assets by aliens" - anything above USD60K may be taxed 45%+/-. IRS via email was no help. OX.. er.. no help either.

Looking for US Death/Estate tax experts in Malaysia is a pain for such a small ciku like me cry.gif
Anyone can clarify?

Was planning to do investing in ETFs via OX as well due to the pains of ARCA via HLeB.
Yes - EVERY DANG NEW ARCA - call in first (that was what i was told).

My third option - waiting for a response from my Financial Planner - she said Kenanga or something has systems to ARCA online platform.
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ETFs? from ARCA exchange?
yeah - HLeB has to call over to IRIS partner to add. pain experienced before.

other than that, ok lar generally pain-free other than cost if U use it as a trading platform (instead of retirement accumulation / investment platform)  sweat.gif
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ah... this arca thingy...

was told by cimb that they had to do the same thing before but starting early last year, it was incorporated into main itrade platform. so now, can just buy n sell like any other. no pain! biggrin.gif

and yes, agree the cost of trading is too high, can't do. investment, ok.

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ah... this arca thingy...

was told by cimb that they had to do the same thing before but starting early last year, it was incorporated into main itrade platform. so now, can just buy n sell like any other. no pain! biggrin.gif

and yes, agree the cost of trading is too high, can't do. investment, ok.
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OptionsXpress for trading though i may need to lower my capital usage until i can verify properly a fellow forumer's posting on "Death/Estate taxes on US assets by aliens" - anything above USD60K may be taxed 45%+/-. IRS via email was no help. OX.. er.. no help either.

Looking for US Death/Estate tax experts in Malaysia is a pain for such a small ciku like me  cry.gif
Anyone can clarify?

Was planning to do investing in ETFs via OX as well due to the pains of ARCA via HLeB.
Yes - EVERY DANG NEW ARCA - call in first (that was what i was told).

My third option - waiting for a response from my Financial Planner - she said Kenanga or something has systems to ARCA online platform.
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Not sure how but I somehow missed your post.

If you don't mind, do share me any news that you have on your end on Kenanga. Currently contemplating moving out to TradeMonster if things are so complicated locally.
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no immediate plans.

but reading here, i think gotta open offshore bank and broker acc for to get much lower rates.

i asked some questions here:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396549/+60

hope others can help you.
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this is a crucial moment, will be on the prowl for USO & XLE tonight fingers crossed.
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nice! counting on it! tongue.gif

well... seeing asia except msia n oz recover today n europe now shrugging off the oil fears, that's good news.

markets are searching for a bottom, so if this is it, the skies r clearing up. may take some months, though....
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OptionsXpress for trading though i may need to lower my capital usage until i can verify properly a fellow forumer's posting on "Death/Estate taxes on US assets by aliens" - anything above USD60K may be taxed 45%+/-. IRS via email was no help. OX.. er.. no help either.

Looking for US Death/Estate tax experts in Malaysia is a pain for such a small ciku like me  cry.gif
Anyone can clarify?

Was planning to do investing in ETFs via OX as well due to the pains of ARCA via HLeB.
Yes - EVERY DANG NEW ARCA - call in first (that was what i was told).

My third option - waiting for a response from my Financial Planner - she said Kenanga or something has systems to ARCA online platform.
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That "US Death/Estate" is only IF and WHEN you die, your beneficiary who inherits your capital gains, will have to pay those taxes.
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Just received a call from HLeBroking agent to explain my predicament. Apparently the share that I queued (an ETF called DWTI) for is some kind of "archive share" & they'll have to engage with their platform partner to add it in. sweat.gif
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Waah.. DWTI is 3x leverage BEAR share of Oil. brows.gif

It's ETN... not ETF - be careful sweat.gif

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this is a crucial moment, will be on the prowl for USO & XLE tonight fingers crossed.
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Yeah, that's at the support line again.. (more dangerous to play USO then XLE).

If crude test at 40 and drop below it, it will be multiple years of overhang supply again.

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That "US Death/Estate" is only IF and WHEN you die, your beneficiary who inherits your capital gains, will have to pay those taxes.
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heheh - i'm an pessimistic optimist but death for me is WHEN, not IF,
and the reason why i bother trading & investing is for my beneficiaries
thus my sweat.gif on the impact.. 45% ya know shocking.gif

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Waah.. DWTI is 3x leverage BEAR share of Oil.  brows.gif

It's ETN... not ETF - be careful  sweat.gif
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To be honest, I've looked through both terms in Investopedia & I still can't really see how they're different from each another. sweat.gif
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To be honest, I've looked through both terms in Investopedia & I still can't really see how they're different from each another. sweat.gif
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In implementation, some ETN tracking are way off.. especially velocity shares.
So, use it as it is. Just a trading vehicle and short term hold. Take profits when you get the chance.
Don't treat this as investment. nod.gif

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In implementation, some ETN tracking are way off.. especially velocity shares.
So, use it as it is. Just a trading vehicle and short term hold. Take profits when you get the chance.
Don't treat this as investment.  nod.gif
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Aye aye cap'n. notworthy.gif

Was thinking of going the other way but I'll heed your advice. Currently observing how it's going since yesterday was my first day in DWTI.
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heheh - i'm an pessimistic optimist but death for me is WHEN, not IF,
and the reason why i bother trading & investing is for my beneficiaries
thus my  sweat.gif on the impact.. 45% ya know  shocking.gif
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I'm not sure it will be that high unless you got millions to pass on.. are u sure about this?

But depending on your filing status... (resident vs non-resident) and if you can still get tax-exempt on non-resident
for cap gains, perhaps best to put your account in joint account status and one of the survivor can execute the securities sale
without going thru inheritance/real estate transfer.


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I'm not sure it will be that high unless you got millions to pass on.. are u sure about this?

But depending on your filing status... (resident vs non-resident) and if you can still get tax-exempt on non-resident
for cap gains, perhaps best to put your account in joint account status and one of the survivor can execute the securities sale
without going thru inheritance/real estate transfer.
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Yup - good idea. Unfortunately my spouse isn't too.. er.. versed with stocks, options, etc. + my children are currently all below 18 cry.gif

Sharing - for those who believes one doesn't know WHEN one will "go" & investing or trading for their family in non-joint accounts, thus be prepared:
Pls note - 45% was what i saw in a broker's website (forgot where - just saw in Dec 2014) but updates due to "Obama tax reforms" (see last link below), it's up to 55% in 2013. Gawd knows for years 2014 and further.

http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats-Nonre...-Study-Metadata
What is the Nonresident Alien Estate Tax?
The nonresident alien estate tax is one part of the Federal transfer tax system, which is incurred on transfers of property at death. The nonresident alien estate tax, reported on forms 706-NA, United States Estate (and Generation-Skipping Transfer) Tax Return, must be filed by nonresident aliens with $60,000 or more in U.S. gross assets.
The U.S. gross estate of nonresident aliens may be composed of tangible personal or real property, as well as intangible assets such as stock or debt obligations. Tangible personal property and real property owned by the nonresident alien must be physically located in the United States for it to be included in the U.S. gross estate. Intangible property is included in the U.S. gross estate based on different criteria. The stock of U.S. corporations is considered part of the U.S. gross estate regardless of where stock certificates are physically located. Debt obligations issued by a U.S. citizen, resident, business, trust, or Governmental organization are likewise treated as part of the U.S. gross estate of nonresident aliens. For estate tax purposes, the values of the nonresident alien decedent’s U.S. assets are based on the fair market value at either the decedent's date of death, or at aln alternate valuation date. The alternate valuation date, which must be within six months following the date of death, may only be used if the value of the estate, as well as the estate tax, is reduced between the date of death and the alternate date.
There are two broad types of nonresident alien estate tax forms filed: treaty status returns and nontreaty status returns. Treaty status returns are filed for nonresident aliens who held assets in the United States worth $60,000 or more at the time of death, and who were domiciled in countries with which the U.S. had an applicable estate tax treaty. The United States holds estate tax treaties with 17 countries: Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, Republic of South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom. The treaties differ among countries, but the basic provisions include mutual administrative assistance between the U.S. and each country and the avoidance of double taxation. Nontreaty status returns were filed for nonresident aliens who held assets in the United States worth $60,000 or more at the time of death but were domiciled in countries without an applicable estate tax treaty.
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http://www.daypitney.com/news/docs/dp_3952.pdf
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B. Estate Tax: Estates of NRA individuals are subject to U.S. estate tax only on U.S. situs assets. The tax is assessed
at the same rates as for U.S. citizens, up to 35% for 2011 and 2012, but with only a $60,000 exemption
(as opposed to the current exemption of $5,000,000 for a U.S. person)
. (I.R.C. § 2106 (b)) Worldwide debts
and administration expenses may be deducted, but only in the proportion that the U.S. assets bears to the
decedent’s worldwide assets. The unlimited marital deduction is available; however, if the surviving spouse is
not a U.S. citizen, only property left to a Qualified Domestic Trust (QDT) will qualify (see Section VIII (B)
below).
The charitable deduction is available only for bequests to U.S. charities.
U.S. Situs Assets for Estate Tax Purposes: The following is a partial list:
- U.S. situs real property, including houses and condominiums. (Treasury Reg. §§ 20.2104-1 (a)(2);
20.21051 (a)(2))
- U.S. situs tangible personal property, such as jewelry, antiques, artworks and cars, unless the items are in
transit or on loan for an exhibition. (Treasury Reg. §§ 20.2104-1 (a)(2); 20.21051 (a)(2))
- Shares of stock of U.S. corporations, including shares of a U.S. co-operative corporation representing a
co-op apartment. (I.R.C. § 2104(a)) Shares of non-U.S. corporations are not U.S. situs property. The
location of the certificate is immaterial. Mutual funds (including money market funds) organized in corporate
form are U.S. situs property if incorporated in the United States. (I.R.C. § 2104(a)) If the fund
is structured as a partnership or grantor trust, the situs of the fund depends on the situs of the underlying
assets of the fund.
- Cash deposits with U.S. brokers, money market accounts with U.S. mutual funds and cash in U.S. safe
deposit boxes are U.S. situs property. (I.R.C. § 2104 ©)
- Debts of U.S. obligors. Once again, however, publicly traded bonds issued after July 18, 1984 qualify as
“portfolio debt” and therefore are not subject to U.S. estate taxation. (I.R.C. § 2105 (b)(3)) Previously,
only bonds with a maturity of more than 6 months qualified for the estate tax portfolio debt exemption,
so that short-term Treasury bills, for example, were U.S. situs assets. However, this distinction was eliminated
by the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997, and bonds now qualify for the portfolio debt exemption regardless
of maturity.
- Interests in limited or general partnerships that either do business in the U.S. or own assets in the U.S.
will probably be considered U.S. situs assets.
- Life insurance proceeds paid by a U.S. insurer on the life of a non-U.S. person is not U.S. situs property.
However, the cash surrender value of life insurance owned by a non-U.S. person on the life of another person
is U.S. situs property if issued by a U.S. insurer. (Treasury Reg. § 20.2105-1 (g))
Bank accounts maintained with U.S. banks are not U.S. situs property: this includes checking and savings
accounts, time deposits and certificates of deposit. (I.R.C. § 2104 ©)
Again, treaties with various countries can alter these rules, particularly as to whether U.S. stocks owned by a
citizen and resident of another country will be taxed by the U.S.

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Estate Planning for Nonresident Aliens.
The estate of a nonresident alien (“NRA”) (a noncitizen who is not a U.S. resident) has only a $60,000 (not $5,340,000) estate tax exemption available. U.S. donees of gifts from NRAs or foreign estates in excess of $100,000 [or $15,358 in 2014 (inflation adjusted) from a foreign corporation or partnership] must report these gifts to the IRS on Form 3520. Several interesting planning opportunities may exist for an NRA. An NRA may avoid transfer taxes completely by structuring his or her holdings so that no U.S. “situs” assets are owned directly (for example, U.S. “situs” assets may be held by a wholly-owned foreign corporation, although U.S. real estate presents special income tax issues). If your spouse is not a U.S. citizen, you may wish to defer estate taxes by use of a “qualified domestic trust” (discussed in paragraph 6). Lifetime gifts by an NRA of U.S. “situs” intangible personal property (such as stock or partnership interests) are not subject to U.S. gift taxes, even though these items might be subject to U.S. estate taxes if owned by the NRA at death. An NRA also may wish to establish a trust to hold property for U.S. resident children or other family members to provide them with tax-free income and arrange for the trust property to pass to other family members free of transfer taxes.

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http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/features.ns...37?OpenDocument
...The U.S. federal estate tax rates are among the highest in the world.
1 The current top estate tax rate following President Obama's tax reform is 35 percent, and it is scheduled to increase to 55 percent in 2013.
2 The amount that a nonresident alien can exempt from estate tax is fairly low, $60,000 of U.S.-situated assets. Consequently, estate tax exposure may be a significant concern for a foreign investor accustomed to paying minimal or no estate tax in his home country and who is interested in investing in U.S.-situated property.

3. The surest way for an NRA to avoid U.S. estate tax exposure is to hold his U.S.-situated assets via a foreign corporation. However, there are significant disadvantages to this approach:

if the NRA holds, via a foreign corporation, assets upon the disposition of which he is subject to tax in the United States (such as real property), the NRA is unable to benefit from the reduced long-term capital gains rate of 15 percent available to individuals;
he is exposed to branch profits tax;
in some instances, he will have higher ordinary income tax rates; and
he will possibly incur additional foreign taxes due to using a foreign corporation to hold his U.S.-situated assets...

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Was thinking of going the other way but I'll heed your advice. Currently observing how it's going since yesterday was my first day in DWTI.
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i just checked this dwti - it is listed on nyse cimb itrade like most other etfs/etn's.

i just received a dividend from xle. small no doubt but pleased to see div from etf's also paid quite promptly with itrade.
like sgd's, it will just stay in the trust acc, no interest - will accumulate to buy more.

oil seems to have found a floor at usd48-49 for now.

meanwhile, cnbc has a new comment on local/rm...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102319556
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What do you use or suggest for trading purpose? Foreign online platform? Any recommendation in particular?
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Foreign discount/online broker. There are many out there. More popular one are Interactive Broker, OptionXpress, TDAmeritrade. I personally use TDA although the commission is not the lowest.
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OptionsXpress for trading though i may need to lower my capital usage until i can verify properly a fellow forumer's posting on "Death/Estate taxes on US assets by aliens" - anything above USD60K may be taxed 45%+/-. IRS via email was no help. OX.. er.. no help either.

Looking for US Death/Estate tax experts in Malaysia is a pain for such a small ciku like me  cry.gif
Anyone can clarify?

Was planning to do investing in ETFs via OX as well due to the pains of ARCA via HLeB.
Yes - EVERY DANG NEW ARCA - call in first (that was what i was told).

My third option - waiting for a response from my Financial Planner - she said Kenanga or something has systems to ARCA online platform.
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Foreign discount/online broker. There are many out there. More popular one are Interactive Broker, OptionXpress, TDAmeritrade. I personally use TDA although the commission is not the lowest.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll be proceeding with opening an account at TradeMonster in these few days.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll be proceeding with opening an account at TradeMonster in these few days.
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BTW, why TradeMonster and not others?
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E*Trade is the same as TD.
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biggest winner today is aapl. 50% sales incr in 2014... mindboggling...

with that, etf's like spy, qqq weighted wih aapl all gain nicely.



5 days down, 2 days flat, 2 day up - still got a couple more days to run up! tongue.gif
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biggest winner today is aapl. 50% sales incr in 2014... mindboggling...

with that, etf's like spy, qqq weighted wih aapl all gain nicely.
5 days down, 2 days flat, 2 day up - still got a couple more days to run up! tongue.gif
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why?

average, all up 2% in one single night!

or u sold off recently?
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Basically, the bulls are still in control.. so buying dips everytime it has been winner because the market continues to trend higher.
Just close eyes and BUY next time, ok? tongue.gif

It just take one time and one time only, buy dips will be loser - if it happens you will know then the market will trend lower. brows.gif



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TradeMonster comission is USD 4.95 per trade.
IB requires minimum deposit of USD 10K.
TD Ameritrade commission is USD 9.99, double of TradeMonster's.
E*Trade is the same as TD.
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These are published commission. If your volume is high, you can request for special rate. My stock rate is USD5 per trade and option is USD1.25 per contract. The bigger the volume, the better rate you can get. Brother J were offered around USD1 per option contract due to his very high volume. Anyway, TradeMonster probably has special rate for volume customer as well. Good to go then. I like ThinkOrSwim (TOS) trading platform on TDA very much that I'm staying put although IB is cheaper.

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These are published commission. If your volume is high, you can request for special rate. My stock rate is USD5 per trade and option is USD1.25 per contract. The bigger the volume, the better rate you can get. Brother J were offered around USD1 per option contract due to his very high volume. Anyway, TradeMonster probably has special rate for volume customer as well. Good to go then. I like ThinkOrSwim (TOS) trading platform on TDA very much that I'm staying put although IB is cheaper.
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to get myself familiarized with these offshore brokerages first before I can commit to bigger deposit. While local brokerages are expensive, at least they're within my reach. biggrin.gif
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why?

average, all up 2% in one single night!

or u sold off recently?
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i sold 1/3 at 116. Waiting to buy back at 102 but couldn't get yet...it was so close at 104! i missed it! doh.gif
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Basically, the bulls are still in control..  so buying dips everytime it has been winner because the market continues to trend higher.
Just close eyes and BUY next time, ok?  tongue.gif

It just take one time and one time only, buy dips will be loser - if it  happens you will know then the market will trend lower.    brows.gif
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ya. gotta do that. this bull is strong. laugh.gif
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to get myself familiarized with these offshore brokerages first before I can commit to bigger deposit. While local brokerages are expensive, at least they're within my reach. biggrin.gif
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what magnitude of deposit for trademonster? how much leverage can u get from it?

i do want to explore this for trading later. esp seeing how volatile us equities can be! tongue.gif



about local ib's, they arent too bad overall. i like the fact that i can see all my holdings, trades, balances, diff currencies on 1 page; can move around the funds incl parked dividends easily albeit going thru rm each time (so, gotta do only when favorable); total holdings all currencies used to leverage at any bourse. only thing it is surely too expensive to trade foreign stocks frequently.

until i get into something like you, i will stick to bursa for fast n furious trading. tongue.gif quite ok as i get 0.21% for my trades t+3.

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i sold 1/3 at 116. Waiting to buy back at 102 but couldn't get yet...it was so close at 104! i missed it!  doh.gif
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ya, i remember everyone's looking at 100. no chance since the last big dip.

i got in at avg 108, optimistic it'll go to 120 by yr end. biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to get myself familiarized with these offshore brokerages first before I can commit to bigger deposit. While local brokerages are expensive, at least they're within my reach. biggrin.gif
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Some of them are very well established, not to worry much. I started with Datek back in 1997, which were acquired by Ameritrade in 2002 and later it merged with TD Waterhouse to form TD Ameritrade.
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ya, i remember everyone's looking at 100. no chance since the last big dip.

i got in at avg 108, optimistic it'll go to 120 by yr end. biggrin.gif
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oh my target is....year 2020 revisit should sell or not. biggrin.gif

talk only lah....i still trade part of it. laugh.gif

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what magnitude of deposit for trademonster? how much leverage can u get from it?

i do want to explore this for trading later. esp seeing how volatile us equities can be! tongue.gif
about local ib's, they arent too bad overall. i like the fact that i can see all my holdings, trades, balances, diff currencies on 1 page; can move around the funds incl parked dividends easily albeit going thru rm each time (so, gotta do only when favorable); total holdings all currencies used to leverage at any bourse. only thing it is surely too expensive to trade foreign stocks frequently.

until i get into something like you, i will stick to bursa for fast n furious trading. tongue.gif quite ok as i get 0.21% for my trades t+3.
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No minimum deposit required for TradeMonster. About leverage, I'm afraid I didn't check much about it since I usually trade with what I have. biggrin.gif
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No minimum deposit required for TradeMonster. About leverage, I'm afraid I didn't check much about it since I usually trade with what I have. biggrin.gif
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u mean u trade 1:1? deposit usd10k, trade 88 aapl shares?

if so, cost of capital is a consideration...
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u mean u trade 1:1? deposit usd10k, trade 88 aapl shares?

if so, cost of capital is a consideration...
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I'm not that confident with my analysis hence I'm in no position to play T+3. sweat.gif
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Basically, the bulls are still in control..  so buying dips everytime it has been winner because the market continues to trend higher.
Just close eyes and BUY next time, ok?  tongue.gif

It just take one time and one time only, buy dips will be loser - if it  happens you will know then the market will trend lower.    brows.gif
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righto, buy on dips!

with us economy gaining foothold, eu's imminent qe and oil price on a floor albeit temp(?), i feel optimistic. biggrin.gif

say, any experience/comment for this etf - XLF:
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XLF Top Ten Holdings
Berkshire Hathaway Inc Class B BRK.B: 9.00%
Wells Fargo & Co WFC: 8.50%
JPMorgan Chase & Co JPM: 7.69%
Bank of America Corporation BAC: 6.18%
Citigroup Inc C: 5.39%
American Express Co AXP: 2.72%
U.S. Bancorp USB: 2.64%
Goldman Sachs Group Inc GS: 2.58%
American International Group Inc AIG: 2.58%
MetLife Inc MET: 2.02%


to everybody...
cbnc suggest these biggest potential 2015 winners:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102317968
.. i m not well versed with the construction scenario in usa, so this VMC, a building material aggregates co....?
.. THC - this one is interesting... small cap, i think...healthcare... everywhere these biz make loads of money (we pay too).

appreciate comments; i have capacity to get into a couple more counters, then sit back and watch...

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 9 2015, 07:45 PM)
righto, buy on dips!

with us economy gaining foothold, eu's imminent qe and oil price on a floor albeit temp(?), i feel optimistic. biggrin.gif

say, any experience/comment for this etf - XLF:
to everybody...
cbnc suggest these biggest potential 2015 winners:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102317968
.. i m not well versed with the construction scenario in usa, so this VMC, a building material aggregates co....?
.. THC - this one is interesting... small cap, i think...healthcare... everywhere these biz make loads of money (we pay too).

appreciate comments; i have capacity to get into a couple more counters, then sit back and watch...
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yes XLF was touted to be a runner this year
but i like WFC more than XLF itself because you've got a mixed bag in XLF. some names in there that don't ring right with me ..haha

got a soft spot for homebuilders as well tongue.gif

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It seems commissions at IB (Interactive Brokers) is very cheap.. only $1 per 100 shares trade.
Wondering if there's any other hidden fees? Anyone knows?
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Some of them are very well established, not to worry much. I started with Datek back in 1997, which were acquired by Ameritrade in 2002 and later it  merged with TD Waterhouse to form TD Ameritrade.
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I had it the other way... my early broker was SureTrade..in '97. Then, it was bought by O'Reilly after the dot-com bubble...
and now TD Ameritrade.

All the tiny brokerage houses that were mushrooms were merged into the big ones. laugh.gif
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yes XLF was touted to be a runner this year
but i like WFC more than XLF itself because you've got a mixed bag in XLF. some names in there that don't ring right with me ..haha

got a soft spot for homebuilders as well  tongue.gif
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thanks for comments.

not familiar with wells fargo, so i better stick to xlf, spread the risks. biggrin.gif

will look for the next dip. this should be the last buy in a while.



looking back, my first buy in dec 2014 was usd/rm3.4975. right now, it cost 3.5695 or 2% more within just 3.5 weeks.
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cheap brokerage normally comes with a few "special features" as such:

- minimum deposit of X amount
- minimum account value of not less than Y amount
- minimum trade of Z amount per monthly
- extra trade quotes by paying XX amount
- extra screening features by additional YY amount
- extra level II quote just paying ZZ amount

the list can go on and on and longer than my final year thesis
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this is good to know. i think for now, i prefer not to be tied up with so many conditions.

i foresee i will not want to miss my usual sleep for months! laugh.gif

"cheap things cannot be good; good things cannot be cheap". tongue.gif

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It seems commissions at IB (Interactive Brokers) is very cheap.. only $1 per 100 shares trade.
Wondering if there's any other hidden fees? Anyone knows?
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u mean u trade 1:1? deposit usd10k, trade 88 aapl shares?

if so, cost of capital is a consideration...
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Hmm... if my memory serves me right, you did mention that you're not the aggressive & usually buy equities & let it mature long term.

If you're not trading 1:1, how do you settle T+3?
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Hmm... if my memory serves me right, you did mention that you're not the aggressive & usually buy equities & let it mature long term.

If you're not trading 1:1, how do you settle T+3?
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i mean... if like me now, not trading, local ib platform albeit higher fees still acceptable, no need to look for others.

if using foreign broker like trademonster, the motive is probably to trade intraday or t+3 since fees are much lower. but if there is no leverage, then there is a cost to the deposit to trade, unless u earn interest on the deposit if it is idle, which i doubt is the case - pls correct me if i am wrong here...? of course, if the plan is not to trade t+3 but trade by paying up, it is not an issue, just the benefit of lower fees whenever u buy or sell.


oh... like to check with u further about trademonster...

when u make deposit, how is it done? do u ibg thru banks? or some third party fund manager? spread? any funds transfer charge?

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i mean... if like me now, not trading, local ib platform albeit higher fees still acceptable, no need to look for others.

if using foreign broker like trademonster, the motive is probably to trade intraday or t+3 since fees are much lower. but if there is no leverage, then there is a cost to the deposit to trade, unless u earn interest on the deposit if it is idle, which i doubt is the case - pls correct me if i am wrong here...? of course, if the plan is not to trade t+3 or trade by paying up, it is not an issue but just the benefit of lower fees whenever u buy or sell.
oh... like to check with u further about trademonster...

when u make deposit, how is it done? do u ibg thru banks? or some third party fund manager? spread? any funds transfer charge?
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Ouch... I've yet to employ their service hence I can't speak much on those enquiries of yours. I've just mailed them my application form which will take roughly 2 weeks to reach them so I'll let you know once I'm officially in. smile.gif
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Yup - good idea. Unfortunately my spouse isn't too.. er.. versed with stocks, options, etc. + my children are currently all below 18  cry.gif
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When you die, your spouse and/or children may not even know where are all of your assets unless you have specific documentation and instructions for them to execute and put this in a safe and secure location. You can download from the following link as a guide on creating such document.

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Yeah - solved that earlier with a list of assets & liabilities + how to access them (for my then Executor or Trustee).
Lots of folks overlook this aspect - ada Will / Wasiat BUT dunno where the fish are all the assets and who/what is owed to/from.

BTW, U had any further luck with info/impact on them US death taxes for "non-domestic aliens" holding "US assets"?
Gawd.. looks like i've to hit up some big firm - ouch $.

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Yeah - solved that earlier with a list of assets & liabilities + how to access them (for my then Executor or Trustee).
Lots of folks overlook this aspect - ada Will / Wasiat BUT dunno where the fish are all the assets and who/what is owed to/from.

BTW, U had any further luck with info/impact on them US death taxes for "non-domestic aliens" holding "US assets"?
Gawd.. looks like i've to hit up some big firm - ouch $.
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Sorry I don't and don't have any fixed assets there anyway. Just plan to get my benefactor to sell off my equity and transfer it back home. One problem though. How long does it take for the bank to freeze your account upon your death? Also when transfer back, they will call up and ask questions if the amount is big. Need some solution there.
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I don't know if anyone knows, but is there any way to invest in a shariah-compliant US etf or index fund? Thanks!
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post Jan 12 2015, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jan 12 2015, 03:48 PM)
Sorry I don't and don't have any fixed assets there anyway. Just plan to get my benefactor to sell off my equity and transfer it back home. One problem though. How long does it take for the bank to freeze your account upon your death? Also when transfer back, they will call up and ask questions if the amount is big. Need some solution there.
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er.. bro, not only fixed assets in US leh from what i read (direct from IRS' website & KPMG stuff).
Stocks too if held directly (ie. not via nominee accounts like HLeB, MBB, etc.) - unsure about stock options though sweat.gif - 1 of the Qs i want answered by US estate tax expert when i find one within my budget cry.gif
Hopefully i understood wrongly.

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post Jan 12 2015, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 10 2015, 04:43 PM)
i mean... if like me now, not trading, local ib platform albeit higher fees still acceptable, no need to look for others.

if using foreign broker like trademonster, the motive is probably to trade intraday or t+3 since fees are much lower. but if there is no leverage, then there is a cost to the deposit to trade, unless u earn interest on the deposit if it is idle, which i doubt is the case - pls correct me if i am wrong here...? of course, if the plan is not to trade t+3 but trade by paying up, it is not an issue, just the benefit of lower fees whenever u buy or sell.
oh... like to check with u further about trademonster...

when u make deposit, how is it done? do u ibg thru banks? or some third party fund manager? spread? any funds transfer charge?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you did mention before that you're using CIMB as your trading platform right? Can you share me the fees structure for both local & foreign trading (US market)? notworthy.gif
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post Jan 12 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 12 2015, 09:57 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong but you did mention before that you're using CIMB as your trading platform right? Can you share me the fees structure for both local & foreign trading (US market)? notworthy.gif
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sure.

cimb itrade online foreign is limited to sgx, usa, thailand, indo and hongkong. they offer others too but are offline and too costly, no eye see...

sgx <rm100k 0.42% min sgd28; >rm100k 0.275% + some other minor charges. dividends, flat sgd10 per div.
usa flat 0.4% min usd25 + some minor misc charge. div handling charge... waiting for confirmation.

as u can see, it is too costly to trade, so i don't. i optimize by:

.. no trading, just invest
.. buy/sell at amount for each transaction such that brokerage = or >min, i.e. min sgd 6666 or usd6250
.. accumulate div at zero int until amt good enough to buy by itself or combine with fresh funds if ex rate favorable

really, just common sense within the constraints.

the not-too-bad stuff:

.. i dun pay for real time data as i am happy enough with yahoo finance; don't need it every night
.. all bourses transactions in all currencies on one page daily report - easy to monitor
.. one single stocks account and one bank account
.. all holdings in all currencies combined x 2.5 into trading limit - i can trade quite a bit if i want to - maybe some day at some minute
.. exploit currency fluctuations - if foreign currency fav, i buy and use what is sitting there at locked in rate on day of purchase; if unfavorable, i pay with rm at ex rate on due date, i.e. 3 days later
.. ex rate spread reasonable, nothing exorbitant

works well for me at this time but... in time, i may want to trade and will need a cheaper arrangement, albeit more troublesome.

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post Jan 12 2015, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 12 2015, 10:36 PM)
sure.

cimb itrade online foreign is limited to sgx, usa, thailand, indo and hongkong. they offer others too but are offline and too costly, no eye see...

sgx <rm100k 0.42% min sgd28; >rm100k 0.275% + some other minor charges. dividends, flat sgd10 per div.
usa flat 0.4% min usd25 + some minor misc charge. div handling charge... waiting for confirmation.

as u can see, it is too costly to trade, so i don't. i optimize by:

.. no trading, just invest
.. buy/sell at amount for each transaction such that brokerage = or >min, i.e. min sgd 6666 or usd6250
.. accumulate div at zero int until amt good enough to buy by itself or combine with fresh funds if ex rate favorable

really, just common sense within the constraints.

the not-too-bad stuff:

.. i dun pay for real time data as i am happy enough with yahoo finance; don't need it every night
.. all bourses transactions in all currencies on one page daily report - easy to monitor
.. one single stocks account and one bank account
.. all holdings in all currencies combined x 2.5 into trading limit - i can trade quite a bit if i want to - maybe some day at some minute
.. exploit currency fluctuations - if foreign currency fav, i buy and use what is sitting there at locked in rate on day of purchase; if unfavorable, i pay with rm at ex rate on due date, i.e. 3 days later
.. ex rate spread reasonable, nothing exorbitant

works well for me at this time but... in time, i may want to trade and will need a cheaper arrangement, albeit more troublesome.
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Thank you for the summary. I guess it's time to pay the brokerage a visit during my lunch time one of these days. smile.gif
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post Jan 12 2015, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 12 2015, 06:52 PM)
er.. bro, not only fixed assets in US leh from what i read (direct from IRS' website & KPMG stuff).
Stocks too if held directly (ie. not via nominee accounts like HLeB, MBB, etc.) - unsure about stock options though  sweat.gif  - 1 of the Qs i want answered by US estate tax expert when i find one within my budget  cry.gif
Hopefully i understood wrongly.
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Stocks and cash held in US brokerages above $60K fall under estate tax

You can for example instead of buying SPY, buy VUSA on LSE instead - domiciled in Ireland and therefore doesn't fall under US assets, and also only gets 15% tax withheld rather than 30%.

Options ... I have no idea, I don't hold any options. But I'd assume they'd be treated the same
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Has anyone here successfully filed 1040NR in order to claim back 15% of withholding taxes?

I've had around $500 withheld over 2014 but am finding conflicting information if I can claim 50% of this back or not?
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post Jan 13 2015, 02:38 AM

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very nice....2000 coming. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 13 2015, 02:38 AM)
very nice....2000 coming.  thumbup.gif
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Let's buy again if it dives to 1950 (200ma). tongue.gif



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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 13 2015, 03:40 AM)
Let's buy again if it dives to 1950 (200ma).  tongue.gif
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oh i love 1950. drool.gif
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post Jan 13 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 12 2015, 10:36 PM)
sure.

cimb itrade online foreign is limited to sgx, usa, thailand, indo and hongkong. they offer others too but are offline and too costly, no eye see...

sgx <rm100k 0.42% min sgd28; >rm100k 0.275% + some other minor charges. dividends, flat sgd10 per div.
usa flat 0.4% min usd25 + some minor misc charge. div handling charge... waiting for confirmation.

as u can see, it is too costly to trade, so i don't. i optimize by:

.. no trading, just invest
.. buy/sell at amount for each transaction such that brokerage = or >min, i.e. min sgd 6666 or usd6250
.. accumulate div at zero int until amt good enough to buy by itself or combine with fresh funds if ex rate favorable

really, just common sense within the constraints.

the not-too-bad stuff:

.. i dun pay for real time data as i am happy enough with yahoo finance; don't need it every night
.. all bourses transactions in all currencies on one page daily report - easy to monitor
.. one single stocks account and one bank account
.. all holdings in all currencies combined x 2.5 into trading limit - i can trade quite a bit if i want to - maybe some day at some minute
.. exploit currency fluctuations - if foreign currency fav, i buy and use what is sitting there at locked in rate on day of purchase; if unfavorable, i pay with rm at ex rate on due date, i.e. 3 days later
.. ex rate spread reasonable, nothing exorbitant

works well for me at this time but... in time, i may want to trade and will need a cheaper arrangement, albeit more troublesome.
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The brokerage fee of 0.42% for KLSE turned me off so I didn't end up getting an account on CIMB iTrade. tongue.gif

BTW, since you're looking for offshore brokerage as well, do checkout robinhood.com. It's quite a new brokerage with $0 commission & still in the invite-only phase. I'm not vouching for it or anything so you might want to read around for feedback & stuffs.
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post Jan 13 2015, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 13 2015, 04:15 PM)
The brokerage fee of 0.42% for KLSE turned me off so I didn't end up getting an account on CIMB iTrade. tongue.gif

BTW, since you're looking for offshore brokerage as well, do checkout robinhood.com. It's quite a new brokerage with $0 commission & still in the invite-only phase. I'm not vouching for it or anything so you might want to read around for feedback & stuffs.
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standard... 0.42% for bursa is the normal rate for cds accounts for most local banks incl mbb, hlb, public, i believe.
for priority-premium customers, it is 0.35%, 0.21% if >rm100k per counter, 0.1% intraday.
so, be premium! tongue.gif

for bursa trading, a lot of people prefer to use another type, the nominee account. also available in most banks, brokerage 0.1%, min rm8 for everything. only catch is no leverage, u deposit, trade and pickup 1:1.



robinhood.com... ok, thanks, will check when the time comes.

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