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post Nov 10 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 10 2014, 10:04 AM)
How big the account size to get that rate? 6 or 7 figures? Mine is $1.25 flat per contract. Would love to get lower than $1. tq
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nah, needn't 6 or 7 figures.
They also look at the average number of stock options contracts traded (of course bro J's is in a league of his own notworthy.gif ).

On OX, mine's also $1 per stock options contract and my a/c is definitely below 6 figures cry.gif
BUT (there's always one around tongue.gif ) with minimum $9.95 or higher per trade sweat.gif

FYI - my contracts traded per month averages about 200+/- depending on opportunities for iron-condors or not blush.gif
Just sharing notworthy.gif

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post Nov 10 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 10 2014, 10:46 AM)
If you trade option spreads (eg. buy one strike, sell a lower strike), they count that 2 contracts. Correct?
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Yup - good eyes. notworthy.gif
My bad - as my orders are primarily credit spreads, thus effectively double the average contracts pm - ie 400+/-, not 200 +/- laugh.gif

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post Jan 7 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 7 2015, 11:07 AM)
Just received a call from HLeBroking agent to explain my predicament. Apparently the share that I queued (an ETF called DWTI) for is some kind of "archive share" & they'll have to engage with their platform partner to add it in. sweat.gif
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ETFs? from ARCA exchange?
yeah - HLeB has to call over to IRIS partner to add. pain experienced before.

other than that, ok lar generally pain-free other than cost if U use it as a trading platform (instead of retirement accumulation / investment platform) sweat.gif
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QUOTE(talexeh @ Jan 7 2015, 11:33 AM)
When you mention dead high, do you refer to the brokerage fees?
Now that you mention it, you're most probably right. I just noticed the term ARC in the exchange column.

Are you saying that each time I want to trade counters involved with ARCA exchange, I'll be encountering similar problem again? Oh my.

Yea, the cost involved is quite high. What platform do you usually trade on apart from HLeB?
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OptionsXpress for trading though i may need to lower my capital usage until i can verify properly a fellow forumer's posting on "Death/Estate taxes on US assets by aliens" - anything above USD60K may be taxed 45%+/-. IRS via email was no help. OX.. er.. no help either.

Looking for US Death/Estate tax experts in Malaysia is a pain for such a small ciku like me cry.gif
Anyone can clarify?

Was planning to do investing in ETFs via OX as well due to the pains of ARCA via HLeB.
Yes - EVERY DANG NEW ARCA - call in first (that was what i was told).

My third option - waiting for a response from my Financial Planner - she said Kenanga or something has systems to ARCA online platform.
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post Jan 7 2015, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 7 2015, 10:02 PM)
That "US Death/Estate" is only IF and WHEN you die, your beneficiary who inherits your capital gains, will have to pay those taxes.
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heheh - i'm an pessimistic optimist but death for me is WHEN, not IF,
and the reason why i bother trading & investing is for my beneficiaries
thus my sweat.gif on the impact.. 45% ya know shocking.gif

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post Jan 8 2015, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 7 2015, 11:14 PM)
I'm not sure it will be that high unless you got millions to pass on.. are u sure about this?

But depending on your filing status... (resident vs non-resident) and if you can still get tax-exempt on non-resident
for cap gains, perhaps best to put your account in joint account status and one of the survivor can execute the securities sale
without going thru inheritance/real estate transfer.
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Yup - good idea. Unfortunately my spouse isn't too.. er.. versed with stocks, options, etc. + my children are currently all below 18 cry.gif

Sharing - for those who believes one doesn't know WHEN one will "go" & investing or trading for their family in non-joint accounts, thus be prepared:
Pls note - 45% was what i saw in a broker's website (forgot where - just saw in Dec 2014) but updates due to "Obama tax reforms" (see last link below), it's up to 55% in 2013. Gawd knows for years 2014 and further.

http://www.irs.gov/uac/SOI-Tax-Stats-Nonre...-Study-Metadata
What is the Nonresident Alien Estate Tax?
The nonresident alien estate tax is one part of the Federal transfer tax system, which is incurred on transfers of property at death. The nonresident alien estate tax, reported on forms 706-NA, United States Estate (and Generation-Skipping Transfer) Tax Return, must be filed by nonresident aliens with $60,000 or more in U.S. gross assets.
The U.S. gross estate of nonresident aliens may be composed of tangible personal or real property, as well as intangible assets such as stock or debt obligations. Tangible personal property and real property owned by the nonresident alien must be physically located in the United States for it to be included in the U.S. gross estate. Intangible property is included in the U.S. gross estate based on different criteria. The stock of U.S. corporations is considered part of the U.S. gross estate regardless of where stock certificates are physically located. Debt obligations issued by a U.S. citizen, resident, business, trust, or Governmental organization are likewise treated as part of the U.S. gross estate of nonresident aliens. For estate tax purposes, the values of the nonresident alien decedent’s U.S. assets are based on the fair market value at either the decedent's date of death, or at aln alternate valuation date. The alternate valuation date, which must be within six months following the date of death, may only be used if the value of the estate, as well as the estate tax, is reduced between the date of death and the alternate date.
There are two broad types of nonresident alien estate tax forms filed: treaty status returns and nontreaty status returns. Treaty status returns are filed for nonresident aliens who held assets in the United States worth $60,000 or more at the time of death, and who were domiciled in countries with which the U.S. had an applicable estate tax treaty. The United States holds estate tax treaties with 17 countries: Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, Republic of South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom. The treaties differ among countries, but the basic provisions include mutual administrative assistance between the U.S. and each country and the avoidance of double taxation. Nontreaty status returns were filed for nonresident aliens who held assets in the United States worth $60,000 or more at the time of death but were domiciled in countries without an applicable estate tax treaty.
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http://www.daypitney.com/news/docs/dp_3952.pdf
Note - printed 2012
B. Estate Tax: Estates of NRA individuals are subject to U.S. estate tax only on U.S. situs assets. The tax is assessed
at the same rates as for U.S. citizens, up to 35% for 2011 and 2012, but with only a $60,000 exemption
(as opposed to the current exemption of $5,000,000 for a U.S. person)
. (I.R.C. § 2106 (b)) Worldwide debts
and administration expenses may be deducted, but only in the proportion that the U.S. assets bears to the
decedent’s worldwide assets. The unlimited marital deduction is available; however, if the surviving spouse is
not a U.S. citizen, only property left to a Qualified Domestic Trust (QDT) will qualify (see Section VIII (B)
below).
The charitable deduction is available only for bequests to U.S. charities.
U.S. Situs Assets for Estate Tax Purposes: The following is a partial list:
- U.S. situs real property, including houses and condominiums. (Treasury Reg. §§ 20.2104-1 (a)(2);
20.21051 (a)(2))
- U.S. situs tangible personal property, such as jewelry, antiques, artworks and cars, unless the items are in
transit or on loan for an exhibition. (Treasury Reg. §§ 20.2104-1 (a)(2); 20.21051 (a)(2))
- Shares of stock of U.S. corporations, including shares of a U.S. co-operative corporation representing a
co-op apartment. (I.R.C. § 2104(a)) Shares of non-U.S. corporations are not U.S. situs property. The
location of the certificate is immaterial. Mutual funds (including money market funds) organized in corporate
form are U.S. situs property if incorporated in the United States. (I.R.C. § 2104(a)) If the fund
is structured as a partnership or grantor trust, the situs of the fund depends on the situs of the underlying
assets of the fund.
- Cash deposits with U.S. brokers, money market accounts with U.S. mutual funds and cash in U.S. safe
deposit boxes are U.S. situs property. (I.R.C. § 2104 ©)
- Debts of U.S. obligors. Once again, however, publicly traded bonds issued after July 18, 1984 qualify as
“portfolio debt” and therefore are not subject to U.S. estate taxation. (I.R.C. § 2105 (b)(3)) Previously,
only bonds with a maturity of more than 6 months qualified for the estate tax portfolio debt exemption,
so that short-term Treasury bills, for example, were U.S. situs assets. However, this distinction was eliminated
by the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997, and bonds now qualify for the portfolio debt exemption regardless
of maturity.
- Interests in limited or general partnerships that either do business in the U.S. or own assets in the U.S.
will probably be considered U.S. situs assets.
- Life insurance proceeds paid by a U.S. insurer on the life of a non-U.S. person is not U.S. situs property.
However, the cash surrender value of life insurance owned by a non-U.S. person on the life of another person
is U.S. situs property if issued by a U.S. insurer. (Treasury Reg. § 20.2105-1 (g))
Bank accounts maintained with U.S. banks are not U.S. situs property: this includes checking and savings
accounts, time deposits and certificates of deposit. (I.R.C. § 2104 ©)
Again, treaties with various countries can alter these rules, particularly as to whether U.S. stocks owned by a
citizen and resident of another country will be taxed by the U.S.

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http://www.blankrome.com/index.cfm?contentID=37&itemID=3254
Estate Planning for Nonresident Aliens.
The estate of a nonresident alien (“NRA”) (a noncitizen who is not a U.S. resident) has only a $60,000 (not $5,340,000) estate tax exemption available. U.S. donees of gifts from NRAs or foreign estates in excess of $100,000 [or $15,358 in 2014 (inflation adjusted) from a foreign corporation or partnership] must report these gifts to the IRS on Form 3520. Several interesting planning opportunities may exist for an NRA. An NRA may avoid transfer taxes completely by structuring his or her holdings so that no U.S. “situs” assets are owned directly (for example, U.S. “situs” assets may be held by a wholly-owned foreign corporation, although U.S. real estate presents special income tax issues). If your spouse is not a U.S. citizen, you may wish to defer estate taxes by use of a “qualified domestic trust” (discussed in paragraph 6). Lifetime gifts by an NRA of U.S. “situs” intangible personal property (such as stock or partnership interests) are not subject to U.S. gift taxes, even though these items might be subject to U.S. estate taxes if owned by the NRA at death. An NRA also may wish to establish a trust to hold property for U.S. resident children or other family members to provide them with tax-free income and arrange for the trust property to pass to other family members free of transfer taxes.

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http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/features.ns...37?OpenDocument
...The U.S. federal estate tax rates are among the highest in the world.
1 The current top estate tax rate following President Obama's tax reform is 35 percent, and it is scheduled to increase to 55 percent in 2013.
2 The amount that a nonresident alien can exempt from estate tax is fairly low, $60,000 of U.S.-situated assets. Consequently, estate tax exposure may be a significant concern for a foreign investor accustomed to paying minimal or no estate tax in his home country and who is interested in investing in U.S.-situated property.

3. The surest way for an NRA to avoid U.S. estate tax exposure is to hold his U.S.-situated assets via a foreign corporation. However, there are significant disadvantages to this approach:

if the NRA holds, via a foreign corporation, assets upon the disposition of which he is subject to tax in the United States (such as real property), the NRA is unable to benefit from the reduced long-term capital gains rate of 15 percent available to individuals;
he is exposed to branch profits tax;
in some instances, he will have higher ordinary income tax rates; and
he will possibly incur additional foreign taxes due to using a foreign corporation to hold his U.S.-situated assets...

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post Jan 12 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jan 12 2015, 01:42 PM)
When you die, your spouse and/or children may not even know where are all of your assets unless you have specific documentation and instructions for them to execute and put this in a safe and secure location. You can download from the following link as a guide on creating such document.

http://www.erikdewey.com/bigbook.htm
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Yeah - solved that earlier with a list of assets & liabilities + how to access them (for my then Executor or Trustee).
Lots of folks overlook this aspect - ada Will / Wasiat BUT dunno where the fish are all the assets and who/what is owed to/from.

BTW, U had any further luck with info/impact on them US death taxes for "non-domestic aliens" holding "US assets"?
Gawd.. looks like i've to hit up some big firm - ouch $.

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post Jan 12 2015, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jan 12 2015, 03:48 PM)
Sorry I don't and don't have any fixed assets there anyway. Just plan to get my benefactor to sell off my equity and transfer it back home. One problem though. How long does it take for the bank to freeze your account upon your death? Also when transfer back, they will call up and ask questions if the amount is big. Need some solution there.
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er.. bro, not only fixed assets in US leh from what i read (direct from IRS' website & KPMG stuff).
Stocks too if held directly (ie. not via nominee accounts like HLeB, MBB, etc.) - unsure about stock options though sweat.gif - 1 of the Qs i want answered by US estate tax expert when i find one within my budget cry.gif
Hopefully i understood wrongly.

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post Jan 15 2015, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jan 15 2015, 07:25 AM)
Options are just contract, should it be treated the same way. It will be long expired by the time they get to settle the estate.
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er.. generally true..
though there can be "far dated" contracts, LEAPS i think.
those 1 to 2 years+/- contracts sweat.gif

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post Apr 8 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(taurean @ Apr 8 2015, 10:31 PM)
Seems like SPY and DOW are consolidating.
If anyone got RM 100,000.00, you may earn monthly or quarterly income by writing options.
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why need that much, RM100K, to write/sell options ar?
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post Apr 8 2015, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(taurean @ Apr 8 2015, 10:48 PM)
because once having this money, you can buy ETF shares and earn premium by writing options through monthly or quarterly. If having less than that, your position might be closed automatically if the stock price hit your option's price as the broker afraid you don't have the amount of money to be assigned with the stocks.
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er.. what about doing selling verticals or credit spreads instead for less capital fellows?
spread of say $1 to $2
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post Apr 9 2015, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(taurean @ Apr 8 2015, 11:04 PM)
well, can try to do that also, but in the US market currently, the credit spread of $1 to $2 quite hard to find (depends on your search/screen criteria).
Example the stock/ETF is bullish and the current value is $205.80
You do a put credit spread by selling $203 and buying $202 for $1 premium.
Your risk is $1/options.

If the stock/ETF price lower than $203, your broker will start to remind you to put in more fund into your account, in case it expires below $203 and you get assigned, means you are obligated to buy at $203 per share. Some broker will close your position if there is insufficient fund in the account.
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ah.. so..
then if i pair my $1-$2 verticals/credit spread SPY
with a contingent order
to close the pair of orders if SPY goes above/below $XXX (before the strike price is hit)
then the brokers won't hound me + i won't get assigned

er.. above approximately right?
notworthy.gif thanks for helping me clarify
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post Apr 11 2015, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Apr 10 2015, 10:48 PM)
Wmk,

Taurean is correct, your broker could ask you for more funds in your account if current
price drops below your base spread but every transaction you make could also
eat your transaction cost.

Some people keeps rolling them out to future date to keep them from assignment.. hopefully prices will
rise above your base price.

Also, you don't have to necessarily trade with SPY. It seems that DIA and QQQ also quite liquid in terms of options play and they tend to follow sp500 (in terms of percentage move) and their commons are cheaper.
If you're option sellers, those weeklies are good to earn income.  nod.gif
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Thank U DanMoonCake for the advises notworthy.gif
Yeah - i'm doing naked puts for 1 - 6 mths on "dividend aristocrats" & "challengers" when "fear" hits them
+ weeklies SPY, SPX/SPXPM, IWM, QQQ, for income purposes.

Dividend investing for US is tough based on the 30% withholding + if i want to get back the 15%, read had to "jump through a few hoops" - lazy sweat.gif
I'd rather just do SGX as it's 0% withholding tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 11 2015, 01:03 PM)
What kind of size contracts are you selling Puts? Quite high margin requirement 
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My contracts' sizing are based on the strike prices i sell the naked Puts at.
Ranges from 3 to 8 contracts usually - only have enough for that to sustain 6 to 8 open positions sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Apr 15 2015, 04:38 PM)
I'm currently selling naked put as well. I'm wondering what it would be like if market crash and those put skyrocketed. Would that blow up my account? What would be the right position sizing per position? What to do in event of market crash? good to share any thought on this.
Currently each of my position sized to $10K of strike price and that would cost me about $2k of margin with potential reward average about $300 expiring 2 months out. About 15% return on margin or 90% annualized.
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Well, i manage my risk (unsure enough or not) by:
1. Selling naked puts on dividend stocks that are:
downed by fear, thus their DY% is near juicy
and downed "enough" comparatively to their moving 52 weeks hi/lo
and dividend payout < XX% (to ensure probability of dividends continuity)
Thus, there is "a bottom"
+ and the bottom probably isn't zero (think MCD, IBM, HP, NUS, ABBV, BP, T, LNN, WMT, CSCO, TGT, etc), thus i can keep rolling over (and down if possible)

2. Contract Sizing:
a. Margin - i treat as though i have to pay 40% to 50% upfront, even though OX gets me usually at 20% to 30% (depending on stock & fear / VIX) required. Note though i've been hit by 60% to 70% margin requirements when extreme fear set in (whole market + that counter)

b. I only trade naked puts with 50% of my cash in the account
Thus combined with (2.), i can pickup / pay.

c. Thus sizing my contracts based on 2a , 2b & strike price i sold at, and to be able to have 6 to 8 open Naked Puts at any one time.

Hope the above is useful notworthy.gif
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Annualized Returns per trade based on 40% margin (note per trade ya & annualized over 365 days):
What I'm getting ranges from 9%+ (severely stupid test trades early in my naked Puts, which i keep rolling over) to 121%+,
with median around 20%+/-.

Dunno good, bad or fugly as i usually trade alone (loner/geek/nerky) blush.gif

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All ears & eyes for any bro / sis that can share / shed some better light what/how/why can be better notworthy.gif

PS: Side note - the balance of the 50% is used for extremely short weekly credit spreads / verticals.
Thus, er.. i'm double dipping with the capital sweat.gif
Weeklies - sizing based on SPX / RUT $10-$20 spreads VS SPY, IWM, QQQ, EWZ, EFA $1-$2 spreads,
to ensure enough buffer to cover cut losses
and have 3 to 5 trades at any one time (excluding iron condors, which i count as 1 even though i leg-in 1 by 1)

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ May 15 2015, 12:48 AM)
Google Sheets

You can use finance functions, here's a complete list

https://support.google.com/docs/answer/3093281?hl=en
eg. the formula

=googleFinance("SPY", "price")

Would have SPY price, not live but updates every 15 minutes
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For more oomph - one can use googleFinance()
AND ImportHTML ( https://support.google.com/docs/answer/3093339?hl=en ) to grab data from finance.yahoo.com, data which googleFinance doesn't have

eg.
ImportHTML("http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=" & $A$2 & "&a=00&b=1&c=" & YEAR($B$2) & "&d=01&e=31&f=" & YEAR($B$2)+1 & "&g=v","table",17)

with combination, one can, for example:
get the lows & highs from googleFinance for 5 years
AND
then based on the lowest lows, get the dividend payout for those dates/years.

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ May 15 2015, 03:37 PM)
i went to Google Finance and found the spreadsheet. then dont know where to begin. Google
drive, where? sorry to ask as i am a noon at this google thingy....
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U have to have a google a/c and be logged in (eg into Chrome browser or log in after going to Google Docs)
try this link
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/

It's NOT google finance..
it's google sheet

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