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post Dec 13 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 13 2014, 08:47 AM)
Yes, the actual price of SP500 is $2K.

But, SPY (the most popular ETF which tracks SP500) is just 1/10 of the actual price.
Still, it is more than $100..

If SPY actually drops $100, you will see recession.  biggrin.gif
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hi bro,

i m just starting to look into us stocks.

on nyse, is s&p500 code spx or something else? can't seem to find it.

found spy which is spdr s&p500, closed 200.60, right?

besides the popular ones on nasdaq, what are some of the big and mid cap caps on nyse that i can take a look at?

just getting started, any pointer will be useful. thanks!
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post Dec 13 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 13 2014, 12:58 PM)
Don't get confused. NYSE is the Exchange, not a stock. SP500 is just basically a name of 500 large cap US MNC companies.
SP500 means Big Caps already... yes, just use SPY (the ETF) as ticker.

Mid Caps ticker is MDY

Just go google S&P MIDCAP 400® ETF and you find the list of 400 mid caps companies in this ETF.
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thanks.

been googling n reading a bit...

i notice on my nyse trading platform that many etf's have high volumes. spy seems by far, the top volume. i can see many also listed as top volume etf's on this list.
http://www.barchart.com/etf/vleaders.php

this list of 10 "top" large cap etf's, with spy at #5, mdy not on it. seems some are very low vol traded. i seem to see the"top" ones are 100% usa equities.
http://money.usnews.com/funds/etfs/rankings/large-cap-funds

can i ask:
.. is it correct to say etf's are popular for reason of diversification, like unit trusts only that etfs are tradeable any time, in usd?
.. etf's investment and trading - any major difference compared to individual stocks?
.. what is spdr? i notice many etfs have this attached to it
.. for etf's, how is dividend treated given a basket of equities?
.. given the dive in gold, oil, commodity prices in the last yr or so, wud it be correct to say gold, oil and emerging markets etf's generally did badly in the same period?

just starting, so any comment appreciated incl yr own experience with any of these counters , thanks again.

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post Dec 14 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 14 2014, 01:18 AM)
Yes, for this kind of leverage, it is call Options!  biggrin.gif
Google around Stock Options to find out more.
Warning: Stock Options are not for rookies.
-- ETFs are created for NOT because of diversification alone but because of COST (as compared to unit trusts aka. mutual funds).
    It is cheaper to trade ETF, just like stocks.
-- ETFs can be certain sectors: Transport, Oil, Housing, REITs, Commodities, Gaming, Dividends, Emerging market, World markets, etc...
-- SPDR is just one of the company that created the ETFs.
-- Dividends distribution are treated differently depending on how many stocks inside the ETF itself. You have to read its disclosures..
-- Yes, for any of the ETFs that have been tracking Gold, Oil and other commodities who had gone down in prices, their prices also have gone down in the same manner.. but their percentage are different.

Hope this helps!
Ha ha! Correct...  the Fed (the doctor) has stop the flow of additional drug. Now, the patient (the economy) is on its own.
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thanks, appreciate it. will read up.
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post Dec 16 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 16 2014, 03:19 PM)
North Dakota sweet crude price in latest NDIC release yesterday .. $41.75 per barrel hmm.gif
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sign of further decline for crude. wti now below usd55.

the oil rout is not over yet...
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post Dec 17 2014, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 17 2014, 11:10 AM)
Which one do you guys want to do play?  biggrin.gif
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hi bro,

been checking up a bit.. like to get yr comments if u dun mind.

i m not trading but just like to put some money in etf's given the outlook of the usd's strength.

other than the recently mentioned appl, baba, tsla, spy and mdy, do you think these are reasonable ones to consider:

voo - s&p etf
ivv - s&P etf
xle - energy etf... consider if n when the energy sector stabilizes

is it correct to say the several s&p etf's are just from diff companies, slight diff in basket composition but basically the same except for daily volume, i.e. liquidity?

appreciate any comment, thanks.
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post Dec 17 2014, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 17 2014, 12:49 PM)
I would say yes to your question.  I'm not familar with voo and ivv but am familar with XLE (energy sector). Pretty broad based - mostly composed of US large cap in Oil and Gas exploration. I think small numbers are in shale too.
Crude Oil goes down.. so does XLE in some manner but not always.  XLE companies are also in SP500.  SPY goes up, XLE will sometimes follow.
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thanks much for comments.

now checking some details with broker. may be buying first counter this week.
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post Dec 18 2014, 01:38 AM

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i made my 2 maiden us purchases just now. biggrin.gif

as i do not hv realtime subscription, i used yahoo fin for real time data, place orders on cimb itrade. yahoofin data is pretty realtime as i can see it when done at the correct time on itrade which is realtime for orders processing. overall, worked fine. actually using a tiny atom netbook to do this while waiting for new pc to arrive.

first time, quite pleased with it.

bought spy n xle (becos crude jumped 4%). in tens of shares, not thousands. laugh.gif

now, will see if crude rebound holds and how usd-rm will work out in the coming months...
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 01:57 AM)
Good luck! I hope it will work out for you!  thumbup.gif

I've not bought back my SPY shares that was called away at 207.

I'm waiting for 195 or lower.
Maybe I will not get it by Christmas..but that's ok, I sold the 195 puts and continue to sell it until it happens.
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thanks.

i bought early into the rally, finished good. so, it was a good start for me.

planning to add a bit more next few days if conditions favorable.

one thing i noticed... for a usd200 stock, prices in increment of 1 cent can swing from 200.30 to 200.02 to 199.64 within 20 secs!
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post Dec 18 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 11:35 AM)
Did you also notice that XLE move in tandem with SPY and disconnected itself from Crude oil?
Crude price didn't move up much today.
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i only saw all of them moved up as oil moved up, hit the sack soon after. biggrin.gif

but think u r right - xle has oil corps, oil services, other energy, upstream n downstream... so it's probably more "connected" to overall S&P than just crude price.

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post Dec 19 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 11:35 AM)
Did you also notice that XLE move in tandem with SPY and disconnected itself from Crude oil?
Crude price didn't move up much today.
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yes, u r right on this. i watched closely last night.
as crude stalled n even declined, hal, rig, xom, slb turned red.
xle did turn red briefly but can see it paced with spy well.
well, all ends well, though!

thanks for yr help again. my first purchases looking fine at this time. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 20 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 20 2014, 05:15 PM)
congratz! break ur virginity in stocks already  rclxms.gif

me yet to break my virginity in stocks...always monitor stocks in investing.com apps the past 1.5 years only...  doh.gif
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i had been wanting to do that for some months now, since the time when aapl went below 100.

well, last week's oil price crash presented an opportunity i could not resist.

there's always a first time for anything, go for it! biggrin.gif

am actually looking to buy aapl n msft. if n when oil firms, will get some slb n rig.

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post Dec 23 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 22 2014, 11:12 PM)
Hi there.
I'm paying by % but there is a minimum of USD30 per transaction.
i'm more towards the buy-and-hold type. hardly speculate.
luckily i purchased mine before the oil issue and USD high time.  laugh.gif
hence, would like to ask what are the procedures to open a direct account with a US brokerage?
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min usd30.. what bank..? higher then than cimb itrade's usd25.
hope yr % is not higher than 0.4%.
anyway, if not trading much, minor effect...

QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 22 2014, 11:47 PM)
fyi, for cimb's iTrade, every foreign account transaction will first "buy the currency", then "trade with the currency" and you may choose not to change back into RM if selling foreign shares. As for my iTrade, there are currently 3 sub-accounts to deal with HKD, USD and RM although all 3 still managed under one integrated iTRade account. So no double charged.   laugh.gif
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i m on same thing: rm-sgd-usd. i find the rates reasonable.
what i do with say, sgd dividends, i leave it in trust acc for not more than a qtr, accumulate enough to buy more when price is acceptable.
come jan 2015, sgx going board lot 100 which will make things easier.
plan is to do same for usd, no reason to think rm will strengthen bigtime for "decades"; reverse may come true, though. tongue.gif


this oil story... after many saying it'll go as low as usd40 some weeks ago, now i start to read some reports making the case for usd64-65 avg for 2015. well, who knows.... but we do have an interesting opportunity now... to buy or to keep watching...?

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post Dec 23 2014, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:51 AM)
Remember when Goldman said Oil will go to $200 when it was $140 back in '08?.. then it reverses and went down.

The thing is when a lot people start talking about $40 oil, it most likely it will not happen and likely to bottom in the 50s and move back up. A lot of times, they overshoot to the downside.

As for Opec,, funny argument from them they're saying non-Opec members should cut back production.. not them.  tongue.gif
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i like to think that the selling was a bit overdone like it always happen; good probability it will recover 10-15% soon and hover there for some time. the case of oil can't be like gold which never recovered, maybe not for 10 yrs!

anyway, i have a passion for oil having worked in that industry for some years a long time ago. so, just bought bits of slb and oih for old time sake. tongue.gif

will look for opportunity to buy some aapl n msft. with that, i'll be happy just to sit back for a while. wink.gif

good nite.

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post Dec 23 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 23 2014, 08:42 AM)
Since you're buy and hold type, why not add those boring but good stocks like coke, walmart, p&g etc.
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firstly, i m more interested in etf's, already got some spy.
secondly, the recent oil slump provides an entry opportunity for energy stocks.
small purchases only...
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post Dec 24 2014, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 11:32 PM)
Santa rally is here...for general indexes except for Commodities
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i hope so!

reading cbnc, bloomberg n watching the screen for the last 3 hrs or so gave me the feeling that the fine gdp figures n low oil price will be a bonanza for spenders in usa. maybe not so much here with a weak rm tongue.gif , but people will spend on tech, right?!

certainly toppish, but i went ahead n got some aapl and qqq (nasdaq etf). msft was just hard for me to swallow, gave up.

i have completed the purchases for my small portfolio of s&p-energy-tech for this first round, will just see what happens next.



for us stock starters, i'll say the yahoo finance real time streams are good, reliable, if u do not subscribe to paid streams. i use that with cimb itrade.

lastly, i can see how it can sap yr energy if u stay up late every night to trade. notworthy.gif i m already exhausted after a few late nights. exciting? oh yes, much more so than bursa or sgx! biggrin.gif

good nite...

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post Dec 24 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 02:58 AM)
Sure thing... I'm in the same boat if I stay up during the day.  Since my working hours are in the evening..
10pm to 7am... no problem here for US times. Already adjusted for the past 5 years.  Only get back to normal hours during holidays or weekend. biggrin.gif
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graveyard shift factory hand or bigtime int'l fund manager? brows.gif
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post Dec 28 2014, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 28 2014, 04:20 PM)
Not enough capital to play us stock yet...

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i m scared to "play" us stocks:
.. my brokerage fees are too high using local ib platform.
.. to get much lower fees, u need to open usd acc somewhere outside msia, i believe.
.. us markets are far more volatile that bursa, so u gotta be prepared to stay up late in the night(s).

my prime reason to move some funds from bursa to us stocks is primarily the issue of the weak-n-continue-to weaken rm.
think about it - crude n commodities prices hammered n not recovering any time soon, all categories of debts soaring, skeletons in the 1mdb and other closets; increasing unfavorableness for foreign investors, no viable big economic plans and do-nothing-gomen... how likely will rm strengthen? i think nil.

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post Dec 30 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM)
The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones...  biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.
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xle is holding well. spy, qqq, appl almost back to all time highs!
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post Dec 31 2014, 07:13 PM

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yr end closing...

let's hope markets close with a nice finish tonite... and usd continues to run away! tongue.gif

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post Jan 2 2015, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(morning06 @ Jan 2 2015, 01:49 PM)
late new year wish~ Happy New Year!!
let's make it a remarkable year!

~and make more money from the market cheers.gif
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cheers.gif

existing holdings, think good chance as us economy looks strong, usd getting stronger.
crude... should see bottom "soon". tongue.gif


but... how to buy more with rm? now...3.5145. shakehead.gif

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