Hi everyone!I am new here.Don't really have the time to go through the whole thread of Studying in Australia yet.Anyway, I would just like to ask if anyone knows how is it like life in Macquarie University Village?I mean how is the environment, living expenses, facilities, and etc.?Hope you guys can help me out...thanks a lot!

GENG ! ....is something like criticize ... i dunt know how to explain in english , in mandarin means Feng ci ...

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Added on September 26, 2007, 9:33 pmanyway , thanks u ...i will try my best to do better .......anyhow ... i m planning to get citizen in aus also .... but i dare not to say thing that related the country issue .... u know la .... ppl sing song also kenal catch d .... lol /// END topic ....kakaka

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Added on September 26, 2007, 9:39 pmthanks SeeD .... fully respected ...u r telling out my feeling ...however ... i will learn my english step by step ... and hope u all that good in english can teach me if i have mistake ...

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Added on September 26, 2007, 10:00 pmLAstly ... i read some post from other ppl too, but i dunt get the meaning also , cox my english really too poor , i will try to understand it when i was free. wat is Engrand actually ? aiya .... watever la .... i dunt care wat bout u guys talking bout me.... just to say sorry if i offended u or ur fren ... dunt blame all on me .... is ur fren started satirize me 1st .... so , pls make it clear . we r all fren here ...try to help each other if can help ... i think we all also dunt like to live with enemy right ?

actually i understand , ppl with well educated ,speak differently, i can accept it . but with manners pls ... i m really sorry for u all , i walk out my 1st step to apologize from u all , ok ? let's be fren ....i like harmony !!! cheers ...

and thanks for ppl that giving me opinion ... i think i should start my english from abc ... cox i dunt have the basic ....sad ....

This post has been edited by walkin86: Sep 26 2007, 10:00 PM

i'll look into your suggestion, thanks for pointing out.

but i'm not really placing much hope on my college. i'm a TARCian studying mass comm. and so far the course is not up to my satisfaction and seems that those who enter there are like doomed to the next choice which is UTAR. everything seems to be set up and planned that students graduating from diploma will be heading for UTAR's degree. definitely wouldn't wanna go there. personally feel it'll lead me nowhere.

walking, you really need to stop translating directly from mandarin to english!!.........

HAHA ... i really dont know how to write a proper english already. i just write out wat is in my mind . i really thinking how to improve my english without proper education ....cox i wont know when m i doing mistake ..... i can write i can talk but not in the proper way ... any suggestion ? read novel ? newspaper ? (but i seldom read) ...but is it really work ?

Not really, if you go to the centre of advanced education. You could find more information there regarding other universities overseas. That is if you're willing to spend an hour or two there, searching for all the info. Actually the diploma in TARC is very very recognized. I'm actually very surprised at first that UNSW admission centre told me that our diploma is recognized.

Even though some of TARC lecturers suck balls, but TARC standards are quite high.

For my course, Mechanical Engineering, 2 years of diploma there is equivalent with 1 and a semester of the subjects taught in UNSW. I always think that diploma only covers the first year of university level, but things are different in TARC.

Have a little faith ya.

Fully agreed

Well, I teach you how. First, bother yourself to drop all the "wat", "m", "cox", any kind of short forms.
Write a sentence properly. With proper use of commas and full stops. Especially in topics like these.

You and your pure Chinese. Let me prick more of your bubble: not matter what you say and think, you will never be able to intergrate back into Chinese and Taiwanese society. If you can good for you, but it says volumes when there are so many Chinese-language teachers who came out of Taiwan and are teaching in Malaysia.

Walkin, dreams are one thing. I dream of a A$800,000/year salary. I dream of having Sakurai Honoka as my wife. I dream of living in a 2 acre Queenslander house. I dream of having a 911 in my garage. But unfortunately, I'm just a student living in a noisy $120/wk apartment with the main road in front and a traintrack outside my window.

This is my greatest gripe against the Chinese educated. They still have the 黑鬼 mentality in them, thinking that English is for the preserve of the rich and the elite. I know I'm going to open a can of worms saying this, but most Chinese educated people I know can't see beyond their noses. And I'm not talking about Malaysians either. It seems to afflict from the Taiwanese to the South African Chinese I meet here.

It's not that I want to be critical of Malaysia. Give me time and space and I'd go on about the flaws, shortcomings and how immigrants take advantage of Australia (and NZ for that matter). The only difference is that Australians can take constructive criticism, while Malaysians have this seige mentality that the world is dead against them.


classic example of a 井底之蛙 being seduced by the agents.


Well, I'm waiting. Have I ever said anything that is false or defamatory in this forum?

My way of "give opinion to someone" is frank and direct. Simple as that.


Y'know, there is this thread:http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=515460&hl=

And the first thing you see there will be:



It is your "whatever lah" mentality that makes you a 井底之蛙。

We are not saying that "without English you are as good as dead". But if you want to come to Australia to study, the first thing you need is the language. Its the same, be it if I go to Taiwan, Japan, Korea to study. I'd have to learn the local language, and that's what we're trying to get into your thick skull tell you.



I've never used IDP's services, but never have I said "don't use agents!". I also used one, if only because the application fee is waived through them. All i said was do not rely on them solely for information. We have the internet. In between online gaming and trolling, do something a bit more constructive. Do your own research. Coming to this thread is one, but we do not spoon feed you. Take us as a guide, not as a hard set of rules.

I admit, the information overload can be near critical levels. But the alternative is to be cheated and bitterly dissapointed. I say this because I have seen waaay too many students, usually from China and Taiwan, who have been burnt by the unrealistic expactions their agents have seduced them with. I can feel a bit sorry for them, as they cant read English like us Malaysians can. All I want to do is to ensure that my fellow countrymen do not make the same narrow minded mistakes of others.


Firefox has one. Handy before hitting the "add reply" button.

This post has been edited by haya: Sep 27 2007, 08:17 AM

I wanna ask whether the foundation that is offered by taylor throughout australia can be used in any uni in aus? or isit limited only? like i study in perth campus and i only can go UWA? or limited to the 4 uni bond to taylor

and which part of Brissy are you staying at again?

and walkin86, I believe you have seniors who have just recently started studying in UQ? why dont you ask them as well since they're studying Civil Eng as well

taylor aussie... what i heard is to enter RMIT and unimelb, onelove89. About going UWA etc...
why dont u divert straight to canning college..in Perth?
rather waste time come here and then go perth later

I find Taylor's college placement centre's staff is very unfriendly.That made me went to IDP for their waived application fees and spam lots of applications there.

I think SAM can be used though out Aus.I heard some of the SAM students went to UK continue their studies.

Maybe you should ask the counselors for more info.They can provide more accurate info than me.

i know that the diploma is RECOGNISED in that sort of sense, found out about that through IDP. but i'm more worried whether i can learn any nuts at all for my course, Mass Comm. i know other courses offered there are quite decent but so far for my course it's quite a sad case to me. students go there to waste their time, not much competent students in my class and i'm mixing a bunch of idiots whom 'just want to get over college, get a diploma and go on with life'. lame much?! if so susah i'd rather they don't enter the college at all. produce waste for the college and use up the college's resources (which, i doubt TARC has any at all, besides the over-rated library).

key point is, no point learning something that can get me to a university's 1st or 2nd year, and then end up clueless when i'm in uni because i hardly learned a thing relevant about the course in college?

and i've studied the course syllabus in other colleges, seems that they place much more emphasis in coursework rather than the TARC tradition of 60% examination and 40% coursework. with memorizing, i believe scoring in TARC isn't much of a problem. but i'm in my first semester so i'd not be quick to judge about that.

the Center is quite well established? i'll take your word and have a look around then. probably gonna sneak my dear in to steal some information as well regarding his course, Automotive Engineering. hope he doesn't get caught again.


tell me about the chinese mentality, i see it everywhere around me. not open minded, and painfully limited minds.

frankly, english educated people are nowhere better either, they look down the nose on people, quite the extreme opposite of the chinese educated mentality. however, i am not pointing fingers at anyone in particular so kindly not get offended.

as for the importance of english, that is very undeniable. it's not really visible how important it is for those who rely on english. BUT, look at those going to Japan or Korea, it is a MUST for you to know their language else you'd be kicked out from the society.

imagine graduating from Australia with half past 6 engrand, and telling your future employer you don't know engrand because you only mix with your own locals and not attempt to speak at all with the Aussies there. what a shame. i wonder how those buggers got their certificates at all in the first place. maybe it's due to our modern society, who seeks profit first before seeking to educate their students?! thus closing one of their eyes and letting students who don't deserve to graduate get over easily so that they can earn money from us?

and walkin86, your 'pure chinese' statement is a great disgrace to me. am i not a pure chinese?! i have been chinese educated since my primary years and all through my secondary education as well. in your painfully narrow little mind, those who are english literate aren't 'pure'?! now what's this, Harry Potter drama?! where those who are mixed with Muggle ancestry is considered 'Mudblood'?! that is sooooooo lame. get a grip.

This post has been edited by sE_vIxEn: Sep 27 2007, 10:39 AM

I wouldn't deny that, in fact I have experienced myself how unfriendly a few of the staffs there can be, but thank god the counselor that attended my case was really friendly, so no complains on that part. About waiving your application fees, I'm not really sure as i put in my application during the placement day when the various universities' admission staffs were there to promote their university and thus waiving the application fees for all the applications made on that day.

Btw, the taylors college they are talking about is the one here in Australia, not the one in Subang SS15. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think these two colleges have any relationship of whatsoever except for sharing the same name.

This post has been edited by jae: Sep 27 2007, 11:50 AM

I'm not a keen believer in trusting counsellors. Their job is to their job, that is to get paid working 5 days a week from 8 to 6. Not against all of them, but most of them. My advice, would be to ask your course manager if they can arrange a meeting with seniors, or just blindly ask around for their guidance. That is how i had to survive during my pre-university days searching for the right foundation/path to university. The same goes for choosing a course. No doubt some counsellors are helpful, but more times than not, they are just shooting around blank edges giving information that does not hit directly onto the target.


And as for chinese mentality, its evident here. That's what makes chinese who they are. I'm done trying to convince myself that they should be different. So stubborn, so rooted onto their belief. Pro's and Con's.

Like i've quoted Haya's earlier post, truth does hurt. But its the people that tells the truth that actually gives a damn about you. That's living a successful life. Taking criticism and building it up in your character. If forever everyone pleases you by saying you've got fantastic english when you don't, you will never learn. They aren't doing you a favour, they are sending you into a pothole and burying you into it.

That's why Australia and other European countries are a great place for character building (generally). Especially when our own country cannot handle criticism from our own people.

The truth hurts

Milton. Coro Drive in front, Train tracks at back, tilt train twice a day, cargo trains at night, and Suncorp Stadium from my window.

Still, I can get to uni in 10 mins, who's complaining?

no i'm actually asking isit possible to use a taylor foundation college cert to apply for other uni other than their own bonding unis. say I did my foudnation in perth taylor and wanna go to melb U or UNSW, will they accept?

is there any taylor`s in Perth?
so far i know is canning college and the other dunno what..
both bond with UWA and Curtin
actually as long your result good i don't think there is rules where you can go.
im sure u r pretty okay one coz u come from chunghua le, elite student.?

Hey guys.. I have a question here.. if i do my medical course in OZ.. Then after graduate, i have to come back to M'sia to do the training for 3 years right? What if i'm given PR of OZ? Can i do the training there and work there?

duh...........when you are a pr, you are a resident, so you can work there, but you will compete for jobs (easy) and training posts (difficult) like all other australians.............

if you return, you need 1 year of housemanship (if you have not done one elsewhere), and serve 3 years with the government as compulsory service..........this has NOTHING to do with postgraduate training........which is a completely different thing altogether...........

I'm not so elite la =D I'm ex chunghua current riam. Hmm... Cant consider myself elite, though i'm in top 5 in class.