since when having a good command of Engrand has got anything to do with a gold key stuffed into your piehole?! think before you talk, won't ya?! Engrand is not learnt through those costly Cambridge institutes or those crazy buggers who want an ample amount from you and end up teach you shit nothing. learning English is not a privilege to the rich, mind you. that is downright silly.

for me, i'm just lucky enough to have a dad who realizes the importance and start talking and exposing me to English literacy since young. heck, even watching English cartoons has helped me to grow. does that require a heck load of money?! don't think so. back then, if i recall correctly, you don't need to pay for watching RTM cartoons (sarcasm).

i'm personally a chinese educated person and i am not a very rich person either.

pretty much have the same escape route from Bolehland with you. gonna seek opportunities in Aussie and if all goes well i'm gonna whisk my parents over for a decent, peaceful living. not having to worry when you are out on the streets like what we Bolehlanders are facing. fear. can't even walk near my dad's office peacefully for fear of my own safety. this sort of life sucks. exceptionally indignant when it comes to chinese school issues as i graduate from an independence school myself. quite glad Namewee did stood up for us though.

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Added on September 26, 2007, 1:22 pmgoing through a bit of the thread, you guys are saying IDP's services aren't good?! meaning we should source out everything by ourselves rather than seek their services for our education? sometimes the net can get a bit overloaded, i have to admit. too much info and a lot of luring with sweet talk.

This post has been edited by sE_vIxEn: Sep 26 2007, 01:22 PM

i visited them once and they're quite friendly IMHO. haven't request for further details coz i'm still on my first semester for my diploma, a tad too early.

oh ya, gaming contributed to a decent engrand as well.

but how do we determine the credibility of the information we get among all the marketing strategies they are using to lure more students?!

i'll look into your suggestion, thanks for pointing out.

but i'm not really placing much hope on my college. i'm a TARCian studying mass comm. and so far the course is not up to my satisfaction and seems that those who enter there are like doomed to the next choice which is UTAR. everything seems to be set up and planned that students graduating from diploma will be heading for UTAR's degree. definitely wouldn't wanna go there. personally feel it'll lead me nowhere.

i know that the diploma is RECOGNISED in that sort of sense, found out about that through IDP. but i'm more worried whether i can learn any nuts at all for my course, Mass Comm. i know other courses offered there are quite decent but so far for my course it's quite a sad case to me. students go there to waste their time, not much competent students in my class and i'm mixing a bunch of idiots whom 'just want to get over college, get a diploma and go on with life'. lame much?! if so susah i'd rather they don't enter the college at all. produce waste for the college and use up the college's resources (which, i doubt TARC has any at all, besides the over-rated library).

key point is, no point learning something that can get me to a university's 1st or 2nd year, and then end up clueless when i'm in uni because i hardly learned a thing relevant about the course in college?

and i've studied the course syllabus in other colleges, seems that they place much more emphasis in coursework rather than the TARC tradition of 60% examination and 40% coursework. with memorizing, i believe scoring in TARC isn't much of a problem. but i'm in my first semester so i'd not be quick to judge about that.

the Center is quite well established? i'll take your word and have a look around then. probably gonna sneak my dear in to steal some information as well regarding his course, Automotive Engineering. hope he doesn't get caught again.


tell me about the chinese mentality, i see it everywhere around me. not open minded, and painfully limited minds.

frankly, english educated people are nowhere better either, they look down the nose on people, quite the extreme opposite of the chinese educated mentality. however, i am not pointing fingers at anyone in particular so kindly not get offended.

as for the importance of english, that is very undeniable. it's not really visible how important it is for those who rely on english. BUT, look at those going to Japan or Korea, it is a MUST for you to know their language else you'd be kicked out from the society.

imagine graduating from Australia with half past 6 engrand, and telling your future employer you don't know engrand because you only mix with your own locals and not attempt to speak at all with the Aussies there. what a shame. i wonder how those buggers got their certificates at all in the first place. maybe it's due to our modern society, who seeks profit first before seeking to educate their students?! thus closing one of their eyes and letting students who don't deserve to graduate get over easily so that they can earn money from us?

and walkin86, your 'pure chinese' statement is a great disgrace to me. am i not a pure chinese?! i have been chinese educated since my primary years and all through my secondary education as well. in your painfully narrow little mind, those who are english literate aren't 'pure'?! now what's this, Harry Potter drama?! where those who are mixed with Muggle ancestry is considered 'Mudblood'?! that is sooooooo lame. get a grip.

This post has been edited by sE_vIxEn: Sep 27 2007, 10:39 AM

might i add, those with City And Guilds Certificate (vocational diploma) can enter universities in Australia with it too.

but, citation please?! i'm not that sure. and i think with CNG, IELTS isn't necessary.

speaking bout that, that's the main reason why i hold back US in my education choice list. later come an emo /b/tard with a .25 caliber and you are dead man.

PLUS, with all the drama in Malaysia, i'd prefer to enjoy some peace. i believe Aussie can give me that. quite peaceful, right?! robbery, rape, crime rates are generally not as astounding as the count in Malaysia.

bad time? what sort of bad time? we in Malaysia have been living safe (sort of ) without firearms what. i can't imagine rempits getting their hands on firearms. it'd be disaster.

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Added on October 4, 2007, 10:27 amthe talk about budget airlines have got me really excited. hope everything will be planned well by the time i manage to get my ass there. technically speaking it isn't quite far anyway, the distance between Malaysia and Australia. just slightly farther than the distance from Malaysia to HK, provided if you aren't going too far off places in Aussie.

This post has been edited by sE_vIxEn: Oct 4 2007, 10:27 AM

what sort of tricks?! enlighten me please.