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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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post Sep 25 2014, 05:02 AM

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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Sep 24 2014, 11:21 PM)
Experienced and good players can be coached to adapt to a system. Players who are not playing according to the system or instruction can be managed to buck up.

Our new players are good and not inexperienced. That's why I think the coaches and manager have slackened this season.

While the Boro players defend in numbers, they can counter attack in frightening speed and with energy. Our players are slow, even static and certainly are no longer consistently running off the ball, as many of us have pointed out.

Yes, there are a few players who really don't seem up to par so far this season :

- Mignolet : made some dreadful mistakes for an experienced international
- Lambert : one cannot imagine someone playing for his favourite team, having so little passion and energy
- Toure : what can motivate him?
I don't blame Gerrard at all - who doesn't grow older and weaker/slower? It's up to BR to analyse how best to use his strengths (and Gerrard still has lots) and pre-empt situations where his weaknesses may be exploited.

So I feel, after these 7 games, I'd say : Hey BR, wake up man!!!
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Sorry but I don't see why the blame game on Kolo again. He conceded the penalty but it was Sterling who gave the ball away and it is not the first time he has lost the ball leading to a goal in the final minutes of a game. Kolo now a 33 year old who's started in his first official match in ages just went through 120mins of excrutiating football. Bar the penalty he had an excellent game.
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post Sep 25 2014, 06:01 AM

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just finish watching Barca!! 0-0
This Barca also in transition...Neymar also have to be substituted. tells u a huge story isn't it?

I got a feeling our Suarez also won't make much of a impact with this current barca side. Their midfield is drying up in supply...

Maybe just maybe....could Suarez turn out to be a Robbie Keane transfer kinda thing? hehehe....maybe not as fast as six months, but 2 transfer window perhaps?


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Barcelona B 6 : 0 Indonesia U-19

Luis Suarez scored twice
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QUOTE(eymc @ Sep 25 2014, 06:01 AM)
just finish watching Barca!! 0-0
This Barca also in transition...Neymar also have to be substituted. tells u a huge story isn't it?

I got a feeling our Suarez also won't make much of a impact with this current barca side. Their midfield is drying up in supply...

Maybe just maybe....could Suarez turn out to be a Robbie Keane transfer kinda thing? hehehe....maybe not as fast as six months, but 2 transfer window perhaps?
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Did barca lost 3times like us now? laugh.gif
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Opponent simply slice our midfield just like that nowadays...
If we have a proper defensive midfielder which also can act as an architect ala-Pirlo, wowh!!
That would be awesome. Hope Lallana will step up one day. Haha. And Im also a fan of Lucas.
I hope even during he is playing as a DM, he also can pull the string from behind 50% like Gerrard where keep the ball ticking and keeping the possession...
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Sep 24 2014, 11:21 PM)
- Toure : what can motivate him?

I don't blame Gerrard at all - who doesn't grow older and weaker/slower? It's up to BR to analyse how best to use his strengths (and Gerrard still has lots) and pre-empt situations where his weaknesses may be exploited.

So I feel, after these 7 games, I'd say : Hey BR, wake up man!!!
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Toure never played in the 3 league matches that Liv loss. How can he being blamed for current slump? blink.gif

I reckon the main man to blame - BR.
Spent 100 mil on number of players, and played poorly, and played Gerrard in 3 consecutive matches in 7 days time.
I didn't expect a 34 yo players to play 3 matches in 7 days when the player was not on form, with the team not playing well at all.


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post Sep 25 2014, 09:16 AM

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Next Round of League Cup, Liverpool had draw Swansea as next opponent.

Let focus on this weekend match vs Everton.
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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Sep 25 2014, 09:16 AM)
Next Round of League Cup, Liverpool had draw Swansea as next opponent.

Let focus on this weekend match vs Everton.
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Gonna be a tough one based on Swansea's form. If i'm not mistaken Everton got knocked out of the League Cup; they're gonna wanna make a statement against us
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Our current slump is due to players just not pulling their weight together. They're just not playing as a cohesive unit. Unless we play to our true potential, another tough one against the Toffees and most probably dropping points again.

Front line looked so toothless and movement off the ball is just non existent. I don't know, maybe Balo is just not that type of player that we need. Decent but not suited to our style.

Of all our players, only Moreno and Sterling looks good. The rest.......
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post Sep 25 2014, 09:26 AM

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At least Lambert knows what's up

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"It was a nice surprise being made captain [against Middlesbrough], but I wasn't happy with my own performance, so that overshadowed the honour of being captain a little bit," he told reporters.

"I didn't feel as sharp as I want to feel. That's the main thing I want to look at going back into training. I want to get my match fitness up because obviously everyone knows I'm not playing every game so I have to adapt myself now. I think I'm going to have to do more so my fitness is up to the same level as everybody else.

"I do work, push myself to the limit, but maybe I'm going to have to go to the fitness coach and see if I can do more."

Lambert suspects he may be trying too hard in his bid to make his mark at Liverpool, as he accepts he is taking time to adjust to life at a Champions League club.

"Obviously there is part of it [that he is trying too hard], but I have got take into consideration and not let it affect me," he added.

"I'm more than confident I can get myself right and start contributing the way I know I can contribute."
http://www.espnfc.com/barclays-premier-lea...s-match-fitness

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post Sep 25 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Sep 25 2014, 09:22 AM)
Our current slump is due to players just not pulling their weight together. They're just not playing as a cohesive unit. Unless we play to our true potential, another tough one against the Toffees and most probably dropping points again.

Front line looked so toothless and movement off the ball is just non existent. I don't know, maybe Balo is just not that type of player that we need. Decent but not suited to our style.

Of all our players, only Moreno and Sterling looks good. The rest.......
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I think Balo got the right stuff. He's not a Sturridge/Suarez type player and won't be I fear. But what he has is a presence in the air and physicality. So often we've seen Suarez bullied and hard tackled to get him off the ball. Balo not doing what he does best as often as he should, but if you look at the goal vs Ludo and against West Ham, his control and touch can be quite good if he wants to (and no surprise that both crosses came in from Moreno).

As I mentioned before, Balo is a genuine plan B, the type Dalglish had in mind when he hired Carroll. But the problem is now, without Sturridge, we got 2 plan Bs on the field (Lambert and Balo). So the only choice is to put in Borini, who if you ask me should be plan Y.
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post Sep 25 2014, 10:09 AM

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i'm reading too much negatives in this thread, and we're only 5 games into the season....

There's plenty of positives to take from the game, namely;

- We got to finally see what Lallana-hype is all about, expect more to come from him in the team supporting Sturridge, Balo, Sterling
- Both our right/left defenders can ONLY get better with more games under their belt
- Enrique had an OK game, his first start of the season??
- Mignolet made some excellent saves, he needs to start YELLING more
- Toure and Lovren should partner together
- Rossiter and Williams from academy, good game

As long as BR doesn't tinker much, I am expecting us to go upwards from here on
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QUOTE(reehdus @ Sep 25 2014, 09:52 AM)
I think Balo got the right stuff. He's not a Sturridge/Suarez type player and won't be I fear. But what he has is a presence in the air and physicality. So often we've seen Suarez bullied and hard tackled to get him off the ball. Balo not doing what he does best as often as he should, but if you look at the goal vs Ludo and against West Ham, his control and touch can be quite good if he wants to (and no surprise that both crosses came in from Moreno).

As I mentioned before, Balo is a genuine plan B, the type Dalglish had in mind when he hired Carroll. But the problem is now, without Sturridge, we got 2 plan Bs on the field (Lambert and Balo). So the only choice is to put in Borini, who if you ask me should be plan Y.
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Remember Crouchy anyone? He only scored after what, 5 league games?

Balo has got the right stuff, he will deliver the goods sooner or later. Maybe my expectation is set at low, but given that he has not picked up bookings in the last few games, I already consider that a plus

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QUOTE(reehdus @ Sep 25 2014, 09:52 AM)
I think Balo got the right stuff. He's not a Sturridge/Suarez type player and won't be I fear. But what he has is a presence in the air and physicality. So often we've seen Suarez bullied and hard tackled to get him off the ball. Balo not doing what he does best as often as he should, but if you look at the goal vs Ludo and against West Ham, his control and touch can be quite good if he wants to (and no surprise that both crosses came in from Moreno).

As I mentioned before, Balo is a genuine plan B, the type Dalglish had in mind when he hired Carroll. But the problem is now, without Sturridge, we got 2 plan Bs on the field (Lambert and Balo). So the only choice is to put in Borini, who if you ask me should be plan Y.
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Remember Crouchy anyone? He only scored after what, 5 league games?

Balo has got the right stuff, he will deliver the goods sooner or later. Maybe my expectation is set at low, but given that he has not picked up bookings in the last few games, I already consider that a plus

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Few positives but much to be concerned about regarding the team's performances so far.

Moreno and Manquillo have settled in quickly enough. Still, there's plenty of room for improvement on their defensive side of their games.
Gerrard, Hendo and Coutinho are nowhere near their best if we compare to last season. They need to buck up fast.
Mignolet hasn't convinced me at all this season. He's not commanding his defence during set pieces or when a cross comes in. And the way he parries long shots away (in front instead of to the side) is a cause for concern.
Sturridge and Sterling are the only real bright sparks so far but the team's over-reliance on them is not good. Bringing in so many players but still toothless when either of them don't play shows the squad is just big but still lacking the quality required.

The results have been far from satisfactory. BR needs to find a formation and a playing style that's more balanced and he needs to do it quickly. Start with organizing the defence better. I don't think the team can replicate last season because Suarez is not around anymore. Suarez is just a one-of-a-kind player that can bring the team lots of goals. Can't have that "You score X goals, we score X+1 goals" mentality anymore with the players that the team has now.
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QUOTE(eymc @ Sep 25 2014, 06:01 AM)
just finish watching Barca!! 0-0
This Barca also in transition...Neymar also have to be substituted. tells u a huge story isn't it?

I got a feeling our Suarez also won't make much of a impact with this current barca side. Their midfield is drying up in supply...

Maybe just maybe....could Suarez turn out to be a Robbie Keane transfer kinda thing? hehehe....maybe not as fast as six months, but 2 transfer window perhaps?
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Their first draw of the league and you label them to be in transition? rclxub.gif
And I don't think Suarez is brought to bring any huge impact, he is brought in to improve their side. They already have, just to mention a few, Messi, Neymar, Iniesta, Xavi, Rakitic so I don't think Suarez will be able to out shine them. In short, Suarez is to improve Barcelona, not hold the whole weight of Barca on his shoulder like he does in Liverpool.

QUOTE(champu @ Sep 25 2014, 10:09 AM)
i'm reading too much negatives in this thread, and we're only 5 games into the season....

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Yahh yahh, I am so happy that Liverpool spent 100 million, then after 7 matches so far, only 1 vs Spurs is consider good.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Sep 25 2014, 11:28 AM)
Their first draw of the league and you label them to be in transition?  rclxub.gif
And I don't think Suarez is brought to bring any huge impact, he is brought in to improve their side. They already have, just to mention a few, Messi, Neymar, Iniesta, Xavi, Rakitic so I don't think Suarez will be able to out shine them. In short, Suarez is to improve Barcelona, not hold the whole weight of Barca on his shoulder like he does in Liverpool.
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Like i always say...go Barca n enjoy for a while

or stay in Anfield and be an immortal legend.

He made the wrong choice

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Suarez would have been Liverpool "LEGEND"

right now he is just "ANOTHER" at Barca

the 2 words real big difference biggrin.gif
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just read harian metro and Carlo Ancelloti said top player for this january (or summer i think) to buy is Raheem Sterling

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Sep 25 2014, 09:22 AM)
Our current slump is due to players just not pulling their weight together. They're just not playing as a cohesive unit. Unless we play to our true potential, another tough one against the Toffees and most probably dropping points again.

Front line looked so toothless and movement off the ball is just non existent. I don't know, maybe Balo is just not that type of player that we need. Decent but not suited to our style.

Of all our players, only Moreno and Sterling looks good. The rest.......
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Blaming players again.....that's y the cycle of buying players n 'loaning or freezing them out next season' when things don't work out never ends....

Root of the problem overlooked again.

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