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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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post Oct 28 2014, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Oct 28 2014, 01:55 PM)
Oh..I see..doesnt matter anyway..I can view online..  drool.gif
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Viewing online is an assurance. After I placed FD, usually like to check online also. Safety, Security, Satisfaction. 3 S's rclxms.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(Lineage @ Oct 28 2014, 01:55 PM)
Thats why I mentioned that need to open a fixed deposit account first before IBG..but this 1 need to confirm with bank first..
I prefer to collect banker's cheque as I need to find another high interest FD after the maturity from UOB..if not later need to withdraw again to place it to other bank for FD..  wink.gif
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Actually getting banker's cheque is better as one can go to another bank immediately to place FD. Some of us not happy with BR as starting this year they are not giving out cheque anymore and have to do IBG. smile.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 27 2014, 04:50 PM)
There is another advantage of 6 + 6 months rollover as 1 year FD (compared to straight 1 year FD), ie. you can withdraw when the 6 months maturity due, and decided not to rollover (if there is better rate after 6 months time), get the 3.83%, then withdraw, and opt to use the fund for other FD or other purpose.

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But it is very unlikely u can get a better rate than "6month 4.28% FD" after the first 6 months.
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post Oct 28 2014, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 28 2014, 01:38 PM)
Interesting. Can we perform IBG, let's say from, Maybank2u portal instead of doing it at Maybank counter? If yes, we just key in the fixed deposit account no?
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I dont think so because you have only a Uob FD account number and May bank portal does not has access to Uob banking system on period of placement, maturity decision interest add on etc
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post Oct 28 2014, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Oct 28 2014, 01:34 PM)
Just done my FD at UOB..

12 months 4.05% FD promotion end 30 November 2014.

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post Oct 28 2014, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Oct 27 2014, 04:49 PM)
Banks should be encouraged to accept IBG as fresh fund more since next year there would be charges for FD placement using cheque... tongue.gif
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wow ... really ka? does that mean they prefer customer to bring cash? appreciate if you can share source of this info sad.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Oct 28 2014, 03:50 PM)
wow ... really ka? does that mean they prefer customer to bring cash? appreciate if you can share source of this info  sad.gif
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http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ess_all&ac=2983
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Oct 28 2014, 04:37 PM)
IBG mean go to counter and request to transfer fund to other bank for FD right? I checked that IBG in online banking like M2U doesnt have option to transfer fund to FD account..
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:26 PM

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Ah Boom, noticed you have updated post 2 super fast yesterday. Keeping mum for days already. Anything to share on your FD strategy esp. that BNM meeting next week ? hmm.gif

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post Oct 28 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Oct 28 2014, 04:37 PM)
tq ... I thought it was some other add'l charge banks will impose if you brought your money in the form of a cheque tongue.gif More worrying is the RM5 some banks charge for banker's cheque BC if you were to withdraw using BC. Let's say you put 10k for 3 mths, that RM5 will make a diff of 0.2% pa return.

From the BNM press release:
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the fee for Interbank GIRO (IBG) transaction conducted via Internet and mobile banking is capped at 10 sen effective 2 May 2013 compared to about RM2 previously
This 10 sen looks like it applies only if you do the IBG from your phone/PC with internet banking, right? Do any of the banks allow us to uplift & trsfr out our FD with internet banking? Or do we have to at least open a savings acct with internet banking facility?

On this other thread on IBG (courtesy of GenX's idea), diff banks seem to charge diff IBG fees. Are these higher charges applicable for IBG over the counter? haha so far I have not been playing musical chairs - hence not much experience sad.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 28 2014, 05:26 PM)
Ah Boom, noticed you have updated post 2 super fast yesterday. Keeping mum for days already. Anything to share on your FD strategy esp. that BNM meeting next week ? hmm.gif
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How soon did the banks react ie revise their rates in prev OPR hikes? I got maturity just before the mtg - so I wonder if I should renew for 3mths or longer. Or perhaps go for one of the step-ups sad.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:49 PM

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HLB Junior FD - 4.15% for 24 Months Tenure

I am very disappointed. I put some money into my Children's FD in HLB on the 17th of Oct but was given the old rate of 3.95% for 2 years instead of the new promotion 4.15% for 2 years.

Should I stop the FD that I've just put in. Take it out for a few days and then re-deposit it again with top up of few k?



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post Oct 28 2014, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Oct 28 2014, 05:49 PM)
HLB Junior FD - 4.15% for 24 Months Tenure

I am very disappointed. I put some money into my Children's FD in HLB on the 17th of Oct but was given the old rate of 3.95% for 2 years instead of the new promotion 4.15% for 2 years.

Should I stop the FD that I've just put in. Take it out for a few days and then re-deposit it again with top up of few k?
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Since only 2 weeks time. My opinion is just go for the new promo.
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Oct 28 2014, 05:49 PM)
HLB Junior FD - 4.15% for 24 Months Tenure

I am very disappointed. I put some money into my Children's FD in HLB on the 17th of Oct but was given the old rate of 3.95% for 2 years instead of the new promotion 4.15% for 2 years.

Should I stop the FD that I've just put in. Take it out for a few days and then re-deposit it again with top up of few k?
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i thought the promo image say revised wef 16/10/2014? This image taken from the 1st post
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post Oct 28 2014, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Oct 28 2014, 05:49 PM)
HLB Junior FD - 4.15% for 24 Months Tenure

I am very disappointed. I put some money into my Children's FD in HLB on the 17th of Oct but was given the old rate of 3.95% for 2 years instead of the new promotion 4.15% for 2 years.

Should I stop the FD that I've just put in. Take it out for a few days and then re-deposit it again with top up of few k?
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Here is the formula for you to find out worth or not to uplift 3.95% and re-deposit into 4.15%. You sendiri kira.
(4.15 x 730) / (730 + no of days without interest)= x%
Then compare x% with 3.95%.

For 12 mth FD, simply replace 730 with 365.

This formula can also be used to calculate you actual yield if you park your fund day after day in low yield CASA waiting for higher promotional FD rate to announce.

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post Oct 28 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 28 2014, 06:43 PM)
Here is the formula for you to find out worth or not to uplift 3.95% and re-deposit into 4.15%. You sendiri kira.
(4.15 x 730) / (730 + no of days without interest)= x%
Then compare x% with 3.95%.

For 12 mth FD, simply replace 730 with 365.

This formula can also be used to calculate you actual yield if you park your fund day after day in low yield CASA waiting for higher promotional FD rate to announce.
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hehehe IMHO you should factor in fixed transaction costs (including foregone interest) AND the size of the deposit

@sitting duck, I think the branch saw your nickname & treat u as a lulu sitting duck ... here take this pdf from HLB website & go hantam the branch manager kaw-kaw for your 4.15% tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Oct 28 2014, 05:49 PM)
HLB Junior FD - 4.15% for 24 Months Tenure

I am very disappointed. I put some money into my Children's FD in HLB on the 17th of Oct but was given the old rate of 3.95% for 2 years instead of the new promotion 4.15% for 2 years.

Should I stop the FD that I've just put in. Take it out for a few days and then re-deposit it again with top up of few k?
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Well, if you are a follower of my Facebook Page, you would have been notified of the HLB Junior FD Revision I posted there on 16 Oct 2014, and would have asked the bank staff to check on 17th October. I also did update the HLB Promo in Post#1 on 16th October. Next time before you go place any FD, check out Post#1 and ALSO BoomChaCha's Post#2 to see latest FD Promos reported here AND check my Fixed Deposit Page to see any discrepancies and sometimes I would include other FD Promos not mentioned here.

And the image posted in Post#1 was edited (photoshopped) by me on 16 Oct showing 4.15% before HLB even revised their image in their website.

Anyway. go to the HLB branch and ask to talk to the Service Manager (he should be behind the tellers and full time at the branch except going out for lunch) and print out the T&C okuribito gave the link where it clearly states 4.15% is Effective 16 October 2014. He can reissue you a new cert/statement backdated to the 17th October 2014. Imperattive you do it quick so that they can update system and hopefully the interest calculated is based on 4.15% before it is credited into your Junior Savings Account end of this month.


QUOTE(Lineage @ Oct 28 2014, 02:05 PM)
Oh..hahaha..just enough fund to start my first FD..hope I can do more in the future..  wink.gif
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Congratulations!!! You are now officially a member of the Musical Chair FD Gamer Club smile.gif

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post Oct 28 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Oct 28 2014, 07:20 PM)
hehehe IMHO you should factor in fixed transaction costs (including foregone interest) AND the size of the deposit

@sitting duck, I think the branch saw your nickname & treat u as a lulu sitting duck ... here take this pdf from HLB website & go hantam the branch manager kaw-kaw for your 4.15%  tongue.gif
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I'm not sure what do you mean by fixed transaction costs. Can you add those suggested by you into the equation and let us see your improved formula ?
By the way, care to explain why size of deposit got to do with effective yield? hmm.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Oct 28 2014, 05:49 PM)
HLB Junior FD - 4.15% for 24 Months Tenure

I am very disappointed. I put some money into my Children's FD in HLB on the 17th of Oct but was given the old rate of 3.95% for 2 years instead of the new promotion 4.15% for 2 years.

Should I stop the FD that I've just put in. Take it out for a few days and then re-deposit it again with top up of few k?
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Say you go and withdraw your 3.95% Fd and put new FD at 4.15% tomorrow, you forego 12days of interest on your original FD to get the new rate 4.15%. Your new Fd starts from 29.10.14.

if your amount deposited is big, the extra 0.2% over 24 months can be significant.
if your amount is small eg. RM10,000.00, the extra you get switching from 3.95% to 4.15% is only an additional RM27.00 over the whole 24 months period. Worth the trouble to go withdraw and redeposit?

If deposit RM100k, you get extra RM270, if 1 Million you get extra RM2,700.

So yes, the amount deposited does matter.
The bigger the amount deposited, the more you must go get the higher FD rate.

I would also add the tenure of FD also matters.
The longer the tenure, the more you must go for higher rate.

In the above example if both the 2 Fds are only for 6 months duration, forget about it! The the extra 0.2% cannot even cover your 12 days interest that you sacrificed.

So i wont get excited with any promo offering slightly higher rate but only for short tenure 3 - 6 months.



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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 28 2014, 08:23 PM)
Say you go and withdraw your 3.95% Fd and put new FD at 4.15% tomorrow, you forego 12days of interest on your original FD to get the new rate 4.15%. Your new Fd starts from 29.10.14.

if your amount deposited is big, the extra 0.2% over 24 months can be significant.
if your amount is small eg. RM10,000.00,  the extra you get switching from 3.95% to 4.15% is only an additional RM27.00 over the whole 24 months period. Worth the trouble to go withdraw and redeposit?

If deposit RM100k, you get extra RM270, if 1 Million you get extra RM2,700.

So yes, the amount deposited does matter.
The bigger the amount deposited, the more you must go get the higher FD rate.

I would also add the tenure of FD also matters.
The longer the tenure, the more you must go for higher rate.

In the above example if both the 2 Fds are only for 6 months duration, forget about it! The the extra 0.2% cannot even cover your 12 days interest that you sacrificed.

So i wont get excited with any promo offering slightly higher rate but only for short tenure 3 - 6 months.
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@aeiou .. no need terror formula. keep it simple logic & simple primary school math also can oredi wink.gif

ps: also go read earlier posts starting from this one

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post Oct 28 2014, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Oct 28 2014, 08:27 PM)
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@aeiou .. no need terror formula. keep it simple logic & simple primary school math also can oredi  wink.gif
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Eh ? 180 degree U turn pulak? You post#1296 said want to factor in this and that, now want to keep it simple pulak ?
For your info, size of deposit has no relation whatsoever to calculation of FD effective yield.

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