6 months is rm300?

in this 6 months, i just add rm40, i can use motul 300v wo...


that's not taking account of 6 oil filters vs 1 wo...
mitsubishi ori oil filter is rm30 wo...

rm30 vs rm180...

you SURE you want to do this every month?

I believe that engine oil additive maybe a solution of your engine oil.. but it will deteriorate the life of your engine

what?

why would i want to add additives?

Then, why people changing engine oil on a short periodically basic?

M-Oil Additives only help to reduce the formation of mugs (the engine cholesterol) deal to increase of carbon contents.. usually it will reduces the viscosity of the engine oil.. It is only a temporarily solution as the carbon content is ever increasing inside the engine oil if your engine... all we can "harap" later on is an "oil filter replacement" ..

So, my solution will be very simple.. just change the engine oil and oil filter monthly... rather than believe the myth of M-OIL Additives.
I am only heavy city driving on evening... highway driving on morning, and i drive almost every day..

If I feel the engine oil is still OK, engine is still running smoothly.. then the most I will change it only a 1 1/2 months (45days) basic.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3310512
just read up

you're talking to a guy who sends used oil sample to USA to laboratory analysis.
and i lack the time to explain what's been posted long ago.

No need too much explanation... I will frequently change my car engine oil and filter on a 30-45 days basic by using cheap but reliable engine oil. That is my solution and you just stay with with own theories and solutions.. FIXED!

Let's see. I use Pennzoil fully syn (RM140) and a Nissan oil filter (RM18). I change every max 6 months, but for the benefit of the doubt I'll go with 4 months. You spend RM50 per month on oil and RM10 on a cheap filter. RM60 per month. In 4 months you'd have spent RM240 almost double of what I would have spent.

And I wasn't harping on about cost, I was talking about time spent doing all that.

But like I said - you have the time and money, good for you lor.


M-oil additives? What are you smoking? Whatever it is I want some!

Quazacolt and I don't condone additives and what the hell is "mugs"? Engine cholesterol? "Deal with carbon contents"? "Reduce viscosity of the engine oil"? Do you have any proof or evidence to backup what you're saying?

Unlike your hearsay, Exxonmobil has spent several million dollars (US) on R&D and they guarantee that their oil viscosity will not change unless it has either broken down due to age/shearing or something else was mixed in. Pennzoil, Motul, all have their own R&D on their products and they are market leaders in the oil industry. They do not simply make oils and claim the world from them.

The purpose of the engine oil is to lubricate full stop. The additives in the oils however help to clean varnish (not your furniture varnish, go read it up), reduce engine oil shearing, keep the oil temperature stable when under pressure and many other things.

Some mineral oils are capable of doing all that but I doubt the detergents in the cheap oil is capable of doing any cleaning. Since you change so often it's possible you never gave the varnish any time to develop and carbon deposits to settle. So that's all good for you but I'd challenge you to do a comparison of your engine internals with someone else who does longer OCI with more expensive fully synthetic oils. If it's the same, you'd just be wasting time and money doing so many frequent oil changes assuming you change prior to the 1k recommended OCI for mineral oils.

Whilst you are not wrong to change the way you do and since you decided to share your method and OCI, people will bound to do comparisons and there'll bound to be differences in opinion. It basically boils down to what I originally said to you :



This post has been edited by izso: Apr 17 2015, 09:06 AM

I think I understand why he said what he said. He doesn't know what Motul 300V is. He thinks it's an additive.

For his benefit since he doesn't seem to google much :

https://www.motul.com/us/en-US/products/oil...cants/range/car

How many kms do you travel in a month?

technically i do la...
however the good additives worth their salt, by the time i whack all of them in, the cost would have already exceeded me going straight for 300v, or torco SR4/SR5, amsoil dominators so on and so forth.

it gets even more retarded when you go with the above said oils, AND add additives LOL
and since my car is still on warranty (following proton schedule of 10k km or 6 months), and the above said oils are NOT meant for long OCI anyways, yeah, you can already figure the exponential cost that is just not feasible.

then there's also the blackstone labs comments on additives
i don't disagree what they said, however i am more on the performance/enthusiasts side while their standpoint is VERY neutral and they did mention is OK to use them anyways so long they won't bring harm/adverse effects. (which comes down to using additives only from reputable companies )

but yea, i'll just give him the benefit of the doubt la.
it'll be funny if his cheap oil isn't even properly lubricating and it's having engine wear even when he is OCI'ing so frequently

Do you think big firm spend so much in R&D just come up with every success products?? nonsense !
so R & D funds is irrespective of the efficiency of the R&D products.. Of course, it can help up, but up to what certain extend??

technology is technology , facts are facts. Google lah type search "M-OIL Additive is useless forum" see a lot of users' feedback!

Any way, M-OIL additive might be solution for people that dont have time to do car servicing... maybe typical business men.
But .. still usually rich people got a lot of cars.. not typical one car.. so do a car servicing in the 3-4 months interval is far more efficient than half year servicing... you never know what time your car is going to break down due to the some bad road conditions.

My cheap engine oil solution is only RM68 per 7 litres (excluding GST) yeah!! with that amount of money i spent i can do 2 times car servicing just within 3 months... yes.. it is my car, and it is up to me to choose which type of car servicing solutions that i want...

Have anyone tried out http://themotoroilevaluator.com/members-bl.../#axzz3XdgbbzyX to see if the oil lubrication / drain interval is optimum?

hmm...in this case, i will just look for other brand of engine oil
thanks

Or you can just do a uoa

I work for a company that does this sort of R&D for their oils. What's your point? Your claims are baseless since you have nothing to back it. R&D may not always have positive results - true, but when they do have results at least they have proof to back their claims. Unlike you. Nothing but hearsay.

And I did Google that - nothing? And what the hell is m-oil la? No one here is talking about 3rd party additives. I'm talking about all the additives found in normal engine oil formulations. Royal Purple oils have extremely good detergent additives in their oils, Mobil-1 (malaysia blend) has a lot of anti-shearing additives, etc. If you're saying all these formulated additives are useless, why are you using engine oil? Just pour in pure palm oil la. That will lubricate your engine and has zero additives. There are people in M'sia doing this now and even University Malaya is doing their R&D on using palm oil in as a lubricant.

Or are you just plain confused and don't know what you're talking about?

Rich people have a lot of cars? What are you smoking again? I'm not rich and my household has 5 cars. it's not more efficient to service the car in shorter OCI than my regular 10,000km intervals (I do not follow OCI in months). And my cars do not break down due to "bad road conditions". "Bad road conditions" just accelerate the wear on rubber bushes/suspension parts and possibly damage rims and tyres. I don't live in a jungle or desert that has extreme amounts of particles that might contaminate my oil nor do I travel in flood prone areas. The only time my cars break down is if some dumbass crashes into me. So again - your point is invalid.

And again - what the hell is m-oil additives la? Who said anything about using additives?

Before you reply - please research the topic a bit more because everything you say seems to be misinformed or just ignorant. Except for the part where you say it's your choice to service your car every month. That's your prerogative and no one can deny you that pointless activity.

This post has been edited by izso: Apr 20 2015, 09:33 AM

hahaha... my car can do a good acceleration as compared to others.. pointless ??

Define good acceleration?

it's not about cheap or expensive.

it's about the oil's base stock/additives, basically overall formulation being capable of meeting the majority of engine requirements.
and how can we tell if an oil meets (or do not meet) the required standards etc? manufacturer claims? all manufacturer are out there to make a profit. no one would be stupid enough to say how their oil is bad.

that's where 3rd party licensing/certification such as the API (able to publicly query their directory), ILSAC, ACEA and JASO etc are there to help govern/give end users an assurance that a product is up to par.
reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_oil

and YES, there ARE CHEAP full synthetic products that are API SN certified!
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=69376847
https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...brandName%3Dzic

credits to langatian and davidke20

So... now you've got nothing to say and trying to change topic?

Let me see if I understand your logic. So you're saying that someone else who changes their oil with extended OCI will be slower to accelerate?

hahaha... my car can do a good acceleration as compared to others.. pointless ??

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hahahaaa... check mate!