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post Dec 2 2014, 12:47 AM

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Next oil i will try soon is this...
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Price quite affordable to me.
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post Dec 2 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 1 2014, 11:25 PM)
this grandmother story i've been preaching since last year december. now also december liao.
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post Dec 7 2014, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Dec 2 2014, 12:47 AM)
Next oil i will try soon is this...
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Price quite affordable to me.
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This HDEO right?
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post Dec 7 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Dec 2 2014, 12:47 AM)
Next oil i will try soon is this...
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Price quite affordable to me.
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API SL certified oil.. Ain't that good to me since SL standard is already near obsolete.
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:39 AM

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Liqui Moly MoS2 are API-SL.

And Perodua needs minimum API-SJ... should be fine lol.
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post Dec 8 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Dec 7 2014, 04:32 PM)
This HDEO right?
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Not sure.
But it has got api sL so should be fine i guess.
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post Dec 8 2014, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Dec 8 2014, 04:40 PM)
Not sure.
But it has got api sL so should be fine i guess.
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I see the rating for diesel is CI-4 means its HDEO. Good for your engine. Because mostly EO rated at CF for diesel.
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post Dec 9 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 7 2014, 09:54 PM)
API SL certified oil.. Ain't that good to me since SL standard is already near obsolete.
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https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...yName%3Daddinol

label incorrect.
not even API Certified.

QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Dec 8 2014, 10:39 AM)
Liqui Moly MoS2 are API-SL.

And Perodua needs minimum API-SJ... should be fine lol.
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https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsRe...Dliqui%2520moly
not even API Certified.

special tec semi synthetic is (with the pricing of full synthetic and wrongly marketed as full synthetic by local market)

QUOTE(chemistry101 @ Dec 8 2014, 04:40 PM)
Not sure.
But it has got api sL so should be fine i guess.
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nope it does not.
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post Dec 11 2014, 03:10 PM

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Hi all, first post. Ive been reading the forums for like 4-5 hours now and still getting dizzy.

Situation: My bro gave me his MyVi Ezi 1.3 2008/2009 recently and now its due for service. Im looking at choosing what good engine oil to buy for it. My bro told me hes only been using cheap mineral oils past couple of years. Since the car is like 5/6 years old, i thought im going to feed it with at least semi syntethic from now on.

Now can someone suggest me a good semi-synthethic engine oil brand for this exact car? I got the 5/30w bit, i kinda understand about looking for a high TBN value. But all these API SL SC etc etc scares the sh1t outta me.

Im a slow and careful driver. My main aim is to take care of the engine so it runs smoothly. Im leaning towards Pennzoil 5/30W SS one. I dont even know why laugh.gif

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post Dec 11 2014, 03:12 PM

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try this

http://www.voltronic-germany.com/touring-n...erformance.html
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post Dec 11 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(FerozHafizi @ Dec 11 2014, 03:10 PM)
My bro told me hes only been using cheap mineral oils past couple of years. Since the car is like 5/6 years old, i thought im going to feed it with at least semi syntethic from now on.

Now can someone suggest me a good semi-synthethic engine oil brand for this exact car? I got the 5/30w bit, i kinda understand about looking for a high TBN value. But all these API SL SC etc etc scares the sh1t outta me.
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personally, go for API SN full synthetic.

semi is not worth it because it's pricing isn't far off full synthetic.
that and the definition of semi synthetic is very loose - for example, they can have maybe 1% group 4/5 base stock/synthetic additives and can call it semi synthetic while full synthetic definition is clear: the base stock/additives must be fully synthetic made.

from personal experience, i lean with Motul/amsoil/Torco.
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post Dec 11 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(XPS1530 @ Dec 11 2014, 03:12 PM)
try this
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totally no API certified products, zero confidence.
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post Dec 12 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(FerozHafizi @ Dec 11 2014, 03:10 PM)
Im a slow and careful driver. My main aim is to take care of the engine so it runs smoothly. Im leaning towards Pennzoil 5/30W SS one. I dont even know why  laugh.gif
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Since only smooth driving and has been with mineral for so long...

try Liqui Moly Proline Engine Flush 500ml.... then use Liqui Moly MoS2 10w30 (semi) for smooooooth engine.



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post Dec 15 2014, 06:25 AM

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Bro Quazacolt, new 0w20 EO player in ther market~~! lols. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3440479
i know you must feel proud of perodua. haha. but however, is their perodua EO API certified? didn't go check yet.

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post Dec 15 2014, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Dec 15 2014, 06:25 AM)
Bro Quazacolt, new 0w20 EO player in ther market~~! lols.  https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3440479
i know you must feel proud of perodua. haha.  but however, is their perodua EO API certified? didn't go check yet.
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no. perodua never make me proud.

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsSearch
query yourself

quick answer: no.
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post Dec 15 2014, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 15 2014, 08:38 AM)
no. perodua never make me proud.

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsSearch
query yourself

quick answer: no.
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Hahhaha, don't be so harsh. But anyway, come to think of it, actually perodua no need to go through the hassle for API certification. They don't market their oil to other cars. They make/source the oil only for their own car, they tested for their own car. And it is covered by their warranty. So why should they care about API?

API is more relevant if the EO is to be used on many other engines.

P/s: I still can't find any AMSoil dealer near my areas...
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post Dec 15 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(FerozHafizi @ Dec 11 2014, 03:10 PM)
Hi all, first post. Ive been reading the forums for like 4-5 hours now and still getting dizzy.

Situation: My bro gave me his MyVi Ezi 1.3 2008/2009 recently and now its due for service. Im looking at choosing what good engine oil to buy for it. My bro told me hes only been using cheap mineral oils past couple of years. Since the car is like 5/6 years old, i thought im going to feed it with at least semi syntethic from now on.

Now can someone suggest me a good semi-synthethic engine oil brand for this exact car? I got the 5/30w bit, i kinda understand about looking for a high TBN value. But all these API SL SC etc etc scares the sh1t outta me.

Im a slow and careful driver. My main aim is to take care of the engine so it runs smoothly. Im leaning towards Pennzoil 5/30W SS one. I dont even know why  laugh.gif

Ty
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If your car has been on minerals all this while, best be careful changing to semi or fully syn. Check for leaks after then oil change cuz you'll never know with mineral oils.

Personally my motto has always been buy what's within your budget. Pennzoil is a reputable brand that's certified and is relatively cheap, but not exactly the best. But you get for what you pay. Their semi oil costs about RM90 and the FS is about RM130. Like what Quazcolt said - why not top up for the FS? If it's out of budget the semi works fine. Personally I find the Perodua 5W30 white bottle semi oil quite bang for buck.


QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 15 2014, 08:38 AM)
quick answer: no.


The car brands rebrand oil la.. you'll never see them listed in the API index / website. Perodua rebrands PETRONAS oil and they are API certified. Toyota - Pennzoil, Honda - Idemitsu, etc. All API certified. But you already know that.

So don't so anti-local la. You're driving a Proton afterall whistling.gif

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post Dec 15 2014, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Dec 15 2014, 09:19 AM)
actually perodua no need to go through the hassle for API certification. They don't market their oil to other cars. They make/source the oil only for their own car, they tested for their own car. And it is covered by their warranty. So why should they care about API?
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you can look up other brand of EO such as honda/toyota/nissan/hyundai/ford etc
they are there.

need or not is one thing, you asked are they on API, they aren't.
that's all.

personally since they are rebranded petronas, and petronas does have 5000/7000 series with 0w20 and are API SN/GF5 certified, i supposed they are ok.
that's if i'll ever bother with perodua cars laugh.gif
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post Dec 15 2014, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Dec 15 2014, 09:30 AM)
The car brands rebrand oil la.. you'll never see them listed in the API index / website. Perodua rebrands PETRONAS oil and they are API certified. Toyota - Pennzoil, Honda - Idemitsu, etc. All API certified. But you already know that.

So don't so anti-local la. You're driving a Proton afterall  whistling.gif
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as replied above - nope lol.
feel free to dig up the API directory.

although yes, not all car brands have their oil listed.
the rule of thumb again, is even your oil is the SAME and just rebranded to suit a car maker (eg: proton), you HAVE to re-certify it with the API to be able to use their certification logos.

and no, i'm not anti local, just mentioning things as it is, facts if you will.
after all i am driving a Proton, 2 in fact, and even my sister have a perodua which i also take care of smile.gif
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post Dec 15 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 28 2014, 04:31 PM)
ACURA ULTIMATE FULL SYNTHETIC <--- different label.

HONDA GENUINE SYNTHETIC BLEND
HONDA GENUINE ULTIMATE FULL SYNTHETIC
HONDA ULTIMATE FULL SYNTHETIC

all these also don't match.
the one in Malaysia have no "ULTIMATE"
and from paultan it's not synthetic blend also.

those still on Honda Genuine are non SN.

that's why i ask again, anyone wanna clarify?  rolleyes.gif
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let me explain, those listed in API depends on individual countries to apply API to suit local regulations.
for MY, there's no API certified. however, it was API SN. just not apply to API only.

do you know that if oils apply to API to get donut, royalties will applied.
and FYI, even API certified EO, not necessary is a good oil.. API certifed just for consumer confidence like you rclxms.gif

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