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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!

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kysham
post Sep 18 2014, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 08:54 AM)
guys... im in a dilemma,

currently my gear is nex 5r, sigma 30mm f28 and kit lens 1650.

now im not sure whether should i get SEL16f2.8 or not for landscaping purpose. ive done some look around at flickr and none of the beautiful shot requires f2.8.

im still new to this. please help me.
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You're right. None of the landscape shots requires f2.8, except for maybe shooting the Milky Way. But it's not something bad to have. You can't find a 16mm lens built specifically for the e-mount whose aperture starts at F8.0 anyway. But the SEL16F28 can be closed down to F8.0....
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post Sep 18 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 18 2014, 11:28 AM)
You're right. None of the landscape shots requires f2.8, except for maybe shooting the Milky Way. But it's not something bad to have. You can't find a 16mm lens built specifically for the e-mount whose aperture starts at F8.0 anyway. But the SEL16F28 can be closed down to F8.0....
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nex camera dont have bulb mode. so cannot take milkyway anyway
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post Sep 18 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 11:40 AM)
nex camera dont have bulb mode. so cannot take milkyway anyway
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are u serious???
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post Sep 18 2014, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Sep 18 2014, 11:50 AM)
are u serious???
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i read from dpreview... yeah..
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post Sep 18 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 11:40 AM)
nex camera dont have bulb mode. so cannot take milkyway anyway
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who needs bulb mode?i use M mode,aperture to widest,shutter set to 30seconds...play around with iso...
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post Sep 18 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(hazril @ Sep 18 2014, 12:06 PM)
who needs bulb mode?i use M mode,aperture to widest,shutter set to 30seconds...play around with iso...
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30 sec oso managed to get? got pic? what lense?
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post Sep 18 2014, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 11:40 AM)
nex camera dont have bulb mode. so cannot take milkyway anyway
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Ehhhhhh?

Then ini apa?

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Taken from my A6000. Apparently all Nex cams *capable* of bulb need to be in M-mode, single drive shooting before you can access bulb.

Or you can buy a cheapo IR remote to get there instantly... and take pics without the shake of pressing your cam in bulb (maybe the timer would work there). Or you could use the smartphone remote - if you have enough battery for your phone.

Oh, and IMHO get the Sigma 19mm over the SEL16 for landscapes. It's much sharper across the frame and cheaper too (400 new).

If the Sig19's not wide enough for you, get the Samyang 12mm But that one's a bit more exp (1.2k) and manual focus only. But it's almost as good as the Zeiss Touit 12 so that's that.

Unless you need the pancake-ness of the SEL16, in which case the SEL20 is better in every way.

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post Sep 18 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Sep 18 2014, 02:12 AM)
I think its the so call 'cobra'.. from the product pic, theres a marker for swivel so i think big chance have ba
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When we say "cobra" we mean Quick Shift Bounce - Sony's term for the rotating mechanism introduced with the HVL-F58AM, appearing on the F58AM/F43AM/F60M/F43M.

It appears not to be Quick Shift Bounce, from this:

http://www.google.com.my/imgres?imgurl=htt...start=0&ndsp=18
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post Sep 18 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 11:40 AM)
nex camera dont have bulb mode. so cannot take milkyway anyway
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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 12:08 PM)
30 sec oso managed to get? got pic? what lense?
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Not true, both my NEX-5R and A6000 has bulb mode.
But you do not need bulb mode to photograph milky way/stars.
Below are the milky way and star trails taken with Sony NEX-5R + Sigma 19mm F2.8 lens.


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Milky way in Norikura Kogen (乗鞍高原) by gsuraki, on Flickr

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Star trails in Norikura Kogen (乗鞍高原) by gsuraki, on Flickr

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post Sep 18 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 08:54 AM)
guys... im in a dilemma,

currently my gear is nex 5r, sigma 30mm f28 and kit lens 1650.

now im not sure whether should i get SEL16f2.8 or not for landscaping purpose. ive done some look around at flickr and none of the beautiful shot requires f2.8.

im still new to this. please help me.
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Did you take Sigma 19? I'm using that. Besides that, what's wrong with stopping down?

QUOTE(uraki @ Sep 18 2014, 12:50 PM)
Not true, both my NEX-5R and A6000 has bulb mode.
But you do not need bulb mode to photograph milky way/stars.
Below are the milky way and star trails taken with Sony NEX-5R + Sigma 19mm F2.8 lens.
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Milky way in Norikura Kogen (乗鞍高原) by gsuraki, on Flickr

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Star trails in Norikura Kogen (乗鞍高原) by gsuraki, on Flickr
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Wow.. Nice work! Feel inspired to break out my own 19

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post Sep 18 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 11:40 AM)
nex camera dont have bulb mode. so cannot take milkyway anyway
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Nex-5r user. IT has bulb mode
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post Sep 18 2014, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Sep 18 2014, 01:56 PM)
Did you take Sigma 19? I'm using that. Besides that, what's wrong with stopping down?
Wow.. Nice work! Feel inspired to break out my own 19
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19 not wide enough for my liking....
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post Sep 18 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 11:52 AM)
i read from dpreview... yeah..
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DPreview are idiots and always try to mislead people and will boost any company that pays them to market.

and milkyway cam be shot even with 15sec @ F2.8... in fact, try avoid 30sec... earth rotation in 30sec is obvious, instead of dots of stars, u get lines(dash) of starts.

and even my first generation nex3 has bulb mode.

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post Sep 18 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 11:52 AM)
i read from dpreview... yeah..
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all nex camera have bulb mode. in fact, all my camera, NEX-5N, NEX-5T, NEX-6, NEX-7, A7, and my current A6000, all have bulb mode
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post Sep 18 2014, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Sep 18 2014, 02:26 PM)
19 not wide enough for my liking....
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Samyang has 16mm up to 12mm prime lenses but like I said the 12mm is the best of the bunch - small, fast (f2) and sharp. Only issue is MF but you don't really need AF for landscapes now you know.

edpaul But star trails are so pwetty wei.
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post Sep 18 2014, 05:55 PM

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Sifus. some noob question on wide angle for NEX. Is it necessary to have AF for wide angle lens (12mm).
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post Sep 18 2014, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(leinnz @ Sep 18 2014, 05:55 PM)
Sifus. some noob question on wide angle for NEX. Is it necessary to have AF for wide angle lens (12mm).
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no matter short or long zoom length, big or small aperture... the question is actually direct back to you, do you need AF? can you cope with MF?

some event shooter rely on AF... some event shooter rather shoot MF. so its a personal thing. if you shoot wide(12mm) for like wedding, if you do not know how to operate MF well, then u definitely will need AF....

my own 2 cent is always good to have AF, since u can switch to MF anytime..... if u get a MF lens, u cant mod it to AF.
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post Sep 18 2014, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Sep 18 2014, 05:58 PM)
no matter short or long zoom length, big or small aperture... the question is actually direct back to you, do you need AF? can you cope with MF?

some event shooter rely on AF... some event shooter rather shoot MF. so its a personal thing. if you shoot wide(12mm) for like wedding, if you do not know how to operate MF well, then u definitely will need AF....

my own 2 cent is always good to have AF, since u can switch to MF anytime..... if u get a MF lens, u cant mod it to AF.
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Thanks. was looking for budget wide angle lens and mostly this budget ones are manual focus. Search some from google and few mention MF is enough.
looking at your reason, i have to rethink again my options.
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 18 2014, 05:44 PM)
Samyang has 16mm up to 12mm prime lenses but like I said the 12mm is the best of the bunch - small, fast (f2) and sharp. Only issue is MF but you don't really need AF for landscapes now you know.

edpaul But star trails are so pwetty wei.
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star trails are diff story ma~ milky way another diff thing also hahahaa

i also got star trails

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