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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!

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TSalbnok
post Sep 15 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Sep 15 2014, 03:00 AM)
The 0.95 has swirly, motion sickness inducing bokeh that you may or may not like. Myself I prefer a better designed f1.4 lens any time or something like that crazy Fuji 56mm f1.2 APD which is *designed* for bokeh. Really, people should put more apodization into lenses... especially variable ones like on the STF.

After all, bokeh is not *just* about a bigger aperture, though it helps. IMHO, some really fast lenses actually have *very* distracting bokeh with onion ring highlights all over the place - and people still think it's "wow bokeh" because it's just blurry due to the DOF.
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(Reposting this from Facebook.)

I was initially very excited to hear another company picking up the gauntlet in perfect bokeh - the Fujinon 56mm F1.2 R APD - where the APD means it has an apodization filter, just like the Minolta/Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus - but with improvements, like supporting contrast detect auto-focus and the brightest aperture being F1.2/T1.7. However, for people who understand the STF look, this sample picture leaves much to be desired...

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Even when the STF has bad bokeh (bad compared to its own good, as sometimes, it does) it is not as bad as this. You can see some of the out-of-focus points getting brighter before going dark (maybe they oversharpened or did a large-radius Unsharp Mask?) Also the shape of the bokeh isn't consistently circular even in the middle where it is expected to be, because it would be free from cats-eye bokeh.

Fujinon did, however do something that the Japanese lens designer at Sony said they could not do - make a bright-aperture STF lens! I asked him why he could not make a 85mm F1.4 with STF (making it a 85mm F2.2) and he said the problem was cats-eye bokeh. So the lens would have to be huge to avoid cats-eye bokeh (caused by front/rear elements being too small).

More pictures, from the photographer who shot that picture mentioned!
http://www.nathanelson.com/blog/the-fuji-56mm-apd/

Another link:
http://www.laroquephoto.com/blog/2014/9/7/...-56mm-f12-r-apd

Also, I have the Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 Dark Knight Pro edition (67mm filter thread) on my A7S. Here's minor cats-eye from the previous non-Pro version (58mm filter thread):

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If you're careful with keeping the backlight out of the picture it can look pretty good:

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post Sep 15 2014, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 15 2014, 01:23 PM)
(Reposting this from Facebook.)

I was initially very excited to hear another company picking up the gauntlet in perfect bokeh - the Fujinon 56mm F1.2 R APD - where the APD means it has an apodization filter, just like the Minolta/Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus - but with improvements, like supporting contrast detect auto-focus and the brightest aperture being F1.2/T1.7. However, for people who understand the STF look, this sample picture leaves much to be desired...

user posted image

Even when the STF has bad bokeh (bad compared to its own good, as sometimes, it does) it is not as bad as this. You can see some of the out-of-focus points getting brighter before going dark (maybe they oversharpened or did a large-radius Unsharp Mask?) Also the shape of the bokeh isn't consistently circular even in the middle where it is expected to be, because it would be free from cats-eye bokeh.

Fujinon did, however do something that the Japanese lens designer at Sony said they could not do - make a bright-aperture STF lens! I asked him why he could not make a 85mm F1.4 with STF (making it a 85mm F2.2) and he said the problem was cats-eye bokeh. So the lens would have to be huge to avoid cats-eye bokeh (caused by front/rear elements being too small).

More pictures, from the photographer who shot that picture mentioned!
http://www.nathanelson.com/blog/the-fuji-56mm-apd/

Another link:
http://www.laroquephoto.com/blog/2014/9/7/...-56mm-f12-r-apd

Also, I have the Mitakon/ZhongYi Speedmaster 50mm F0.95 Dark Knight Pro edition (67mm filter thread) on my A7S. Here's minor cats-eye from the previous non-Pro version (58mm filter thread):

user posted image

If you're careful with keeping the backlight out of the picture it can look pretty good:

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Thank you so much for this informative and constructive sharing smile.gif

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post Sep 15 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(tenchi0205 @ Sep 15 2014, 12:37 PM)
rclxms.gif good never attend before...

hmm.gif but no see any here
https://mysony.sony.com.my/Workshop/index.aspx
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They've changed the website. It's a microsite now.

http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/workshop/...108:sdlw_revamp
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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 15 2014, 04:15 PM)
They've changed the website. It's a microsite now.

http://www.sony.com.my/microsite/workshop/...108:sdlw_revamp
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laugh.gif Ok registered...The venue is at Mega AVIT, Complex Karamunsing? I just come to KK early Aug so not very familiar with KK yet
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post Sep 15 2014, 08:33 PM

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Hi last time we could order for parts from Sony Service Center in Mid Valley.
now they moved to The Curve, coould we still just order parts with them ?
and any sites/links for finding part numbers etc
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post Sep 16 2014, 01:01 AM

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Since the Alpha master sifus are all here, so I will also ask here...

Can the RX100MK2 use the Sony F42AM or F43AM flashes..?? What adapter would I need...??

Can I use this type of adapter?

Or do i use this ADP-MAA adapter..?? Is there any other cheaper alternative to this ADP-MAA...?/

Thanks for the info...
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post Sep 16 2014, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 16 2014, 01:01 AM)
Since the Alpha master sifus are all here, so I will also ask here...

Can the RX100MK2 use the Sony F42AM or F43AM flashes..?? What adapter would I need...??

Can I use this type of adapter?

Or do i use this ADP-MAA adapter..?? Is there any other cheaper alternative to this ADP-MAA...?/

Thanks for the info...
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Just get the APD-MAA - you get TTL!
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post Sep 16 2014, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 16 2014, 01:01 AM)
Since the Alpha master sifus are all here, so I will also ask here...

Can the RX100MK2 use the Sony F42AM or F43AM flashes..?? What adapter would I need...??

Can I use this type of adapter?

Or do i use this ADP-MAA adapter..?? Is there any other cheaper alternative to this ADP-MAA...?/

Thanks for the info...
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Sadly there's no alternative to third party regarding the adapter. If you want to use older flash, you'll have to buy the adapter. One good thing is that it will retain all the functions such metering etc..
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post Sep 16 2014, 02:47 PM

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Same result if i take it using DSLR. Difference is size and the fun!
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Thanks Albert and NixonYang...

Now need to hunt for this part then.....
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post Sep 16 2014, 08:07 PM

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hello camera pros, any of you know how much it would cost to repair a broken NEX 5N screen? I dropped my camera on the floor (ouch!!) and the screen went blank, it's not working anymore, but the camera is still able to capture photos. sad.gif
I just wanna know if I should get it repaired or buy a new camera. sad.gif

(sorry I'm just a girl who loves my sony nex but doesn't know much about cameras and stuff. forgive me if I asked any stupid questions.)
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post Sep 16 2014, 10:40 PM

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That day my NEX 3N video recording managed to last for 3 hrs non stop with original batt, better than I expected. smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2014, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Sep 16 2014, 10:40 PM)
That day my NEX 3N video recording managed to last for 3 hrs non stop with original batt, better than I expected. smile.gif
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maybe not for newest A5100 sad.gif sweat.gif
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post Sep 16 2014, 11:25 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/%CE%B1brea...295303440671663

Sony - Power of Imaging Southeast Asia added 14 new photos.
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‪#‎αBreakingNews‬ from Photokina 2014. Sony is showcasing the latest range of digital camera products and expanded range of ‘α’ lenses, including 4 lenses (FE 24-240mm F3.5-6.3 OSS, FE 28mm F2, Distagon T* FE 35mm F1.4 ZA, FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OSS) and 2 converters (FE Ultra Wide Converter and FE Fisheye Converter) supporting 35 mm full-frame sensors under development for reference. Take a peek of these exciting products here!

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post Sep 16 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Poadster @ Sep 16 2014, 03:01 PM)
Thanks Albert and NixonYang...

Now need to hunt for this part then.....
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you can check at studio zaloon, i still saw it from at last month.
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post Sep 17 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(themanwithnoname @ Sep 16 2014, 02:47 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/V4ERUQp.jpg 

Same result if i take it using DSLR. Difference is size and the fun!
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Nice ..kemerdekaan
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post Sep 17 2014, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(-strawbeRRy- @ Sep 16 2014, 08:07 PM)
hello camera pros, any of you know how much it would cost to repair a broken NEX 5N screen? I dropped my camera on the floor (ouch!!) and the screen went blank, it's not working anymore, but the camera is still able to capture photos. sad.gif
I just wanna know if I should get it repaired or buy a new camera. sad.gif

(sorry I'm just a girl who loves my sony nex but doesn't know much about cameras and stuff. forgive me if I asked any stupid questions.)
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is your camera still under warranty?

from my past experience (broke my A300, and sony's A57), it cost around rm180 for the screen, and if warranty is over... a service charge of rm150 is applied, else its free if its underwarranty. but i wouldnt know if the price has change... even it did, it would range nearby.
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Dam it hard to play with wireless flash
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QUOTE(AlphaNexer @ Sep 17 2014, 12:30 AM)
Nice ..kemerdekaan
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post Sep 17 2014, 12:48 PM

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Birding with old lens, result quite well

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Fooding

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